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Whats the best way to protect yourself against false alligations? ( Past/future)

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June 21, 2019
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I was going to post this over in the main subreddit but thought since this was more of a question thought it belonged here.

Anyways my question is straightforward would be ; What is the best way to protect yourself against false alligation from women in your past, or future encounters? "

Reason i am asking this is i lately have noticed a familiarity around two sexual assult accusations against two people i know personally. Both are people im close too, work in different fields. But what they both have in common was that the alligation happen years back, and those accusing them is someone they studied same field with/worked together, but then who didnt succeed as them in their carrer/education path.

The saddest thing is one of the accused i know, couple of weeks back got an "award" in his field ( dont want to get into much detail about which), but the interesting was the person accusing him was present that night as they work same field, even had a good conversation catching up, until weeks later he gets the police knocking on his door. And now she is accusing him of sexual assult during grad school.

I talked to him, and asked him if that did happen, and he was no. I grew up with the guy and knew his parents back in Chicago. And i knew he was speaking the truth. But i asked him why she would say he did, and he honestly didnt understand. But i could see that it was a hate motivated false alligation

Not going to lie both of those incident with two of my friend have kinda made me paranoid. Im careful now with whom i date, and all. But its the " blast from the past" that i run into im kinda wary off.

So if anyone could come advice with how to protect yourself from false alligation from past or future.


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Title Whats the best way to protect yourself against false alligations? ( Past/future)
Author darthsmokey
Upvotes 61
Comments 50
Date 21 June 2019 12:35 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]ur8moms19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

Coach rp says: always have an audio recorder. Never badmouth a lay

And also don’t shit where you eat

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

This depends on your state. Some states are 1-party consent laws where what you suggest is permitted, but in others the judge will just throw out any evidence acquired this way and then charge you with another crime.

[–]inittowinit7772 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The evidence literally becomes inadmissible? damn that sucks ass, so it wouldn’t weaken her claim in any way whatsoever? I feel like it still might be worth recording even in 2-party consent states though

[–]ur8moms0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah. I Should have mentioned that. My country doesn’t have any laws against it

[–]amwfhunter71 points72 points  (16 children) | Copy

Don't shit where u eat

Watch your sexual innuendos in the professional workplace

Keanu touch in pics in professional settings

Keep screenshots and texts. I like lock apps like keepsafe. Pay for the premium to hold files. Esp nudes. Don't use them as revenge porn but it will come in handy in a court of law or just to shut the girl up.

Always check the age of the girl

If u can, game in different cities and countries. I never date anyone who is in my city and when I'm out until.i really get to know a girl they never know my full name or where I live

I meet my Fwbs at hotels. Very few have actually been to any of my homes. My longest plate of 3 years has never been to my house. And she is one of the few who know my full name . She seen my renovations and was with me when I bought myself another house in another city as an investment but that's it. And my holding company to which she doesn't know the name owns it anyways. But she would never accuse me of anything anyways.

Also it would be in your favor to take pics with your plates in affectionate positions. Keep them stored. It is paranoid but I started doing this a few years ago when I found the red pill. I'm a surgeon by profession and I've seen way too many of my colleagues get in trouble for that shit since I started practicing. Our regulating body releases articles of colleagues who are guilty of misconduct all the time.

[–]StevieWondersHummer30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

Keanu touch in pics in professional settings

Lmao, Learn that shit OP

[–]kaolin22414 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, you make the fun pose and they can put their hands on you if they like, so long as it's appropriate. Touching them is an instant NO these days.

Also no PDA's at work.

Your cute office buddy is leaving today? Don't ever hug her at the office or at the bar afterward, especially if coworkers will be taking pictures and videos of everyone fucked up.

The only pictures anyone should have of you is either the two of speaking at a safe distance, or shaking hands.

Do all that other stuff when you see her at next year's conference.

[–]superbad4life13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't shit where u eat

The rest is good, but it really builds on this.

[–]babybopp6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have never brought a girl to my apartment. I'd rather fuck em in a hotel or their place. I always tell them I have a wife at home. I learnt this the hard way when a girl came banging my door at 2am and would not leave.

[–]darthsmokey[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks man i save this.

[–]Nergaal5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

But she would never accuse me of anything anyways

lol

[–]amwfhunter1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look, I'm a pretty good judge of character. My plate has her hang ups but she isn't a malicious person. If not I wouldnt be able to be with her for 3 years. And we have honesty and transparency for the most part. Not all women are bad and the more women u encounter u know which ones are likely and unlikely to turn on you.

[–]amwfhunter-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have a team of lawyers and she isn't from north america. It is sad but I legit have like 7 to 10 lawyers and a couple on retainer.

[–]inittowinit7771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Serious question: how does one go about acquiring a team of solid lawyers? I’m still in grad school rn in a STEM field, and in 5-10 years’ time I’d like to be in a position where I can afford to have a team of lawyers to cover my ass for any and all kinds of situations.

[–]ais89 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

What is it like dating as a surgeon?

[–]amwfhunter0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What do u mean?

[–]ais89 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Has your dating life significantly improved because you became a surgeon? How does it compare to your dating life before your career started.

[–]amwfhunter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I actually don't think about it coz I have a side business I had since I was 15. So usually I just tell them I am entrepreneur and never reveal what my professional by trade is. Dating life is the same. I am just more cautious of who I date now. It is either 20 some year olds who don't care what I do just know that I'm a good time, or for more "formal" dating I hang out with 25 to 35 year old professionals but never single moms.

[–]sebastianconcept2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s quite pro. Expensive to implement but totally pro.

Anyways, good read, now I’m going back to work on my affluence self improvement...

[–]darthsmokey[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

could you recomend a good app ( iOS/android) for storaging pictures for safekeeping? ( free or premium dont matter as long its a good one)

[–]amwfhunter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Keepsafe as mentioned above

[–]TFWnoLTR11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of solid advice here. I'd just reinforce a few of the best points being made:

Don't fuck or even get friendly with women at work, in your field, or even in the same office building. There is absolutely nothing to be gained from friendships with women. Just be nice and professional, only conversate when approached and speak like you're being livestreamed to the world. Don't drink or hang out with female coworkers outside of work functions.

Don't bring them around your house until you know them well.

Text the morning after saying "I had a great time last night with you" or something to that effect. It almost always gets her to respond "me too", which would help against any accusations about that night.

Record and save all calls and texts. I use ACR for calls, and don't be stingy, get the premium version and make sure another app isnt deleting them.

Also, dont rape or assault anyone. That helps too.

[–]omega_dawg9311 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

good advice here already.

I'll just add what i always say: "NO SEX WITH DRUNK OR HIGH WOMEN! Just say, 'no!'"

if she needs alcohol to, "get in the mood," give her some and let her know (record it if you need to) that sex ain't happening with you.

and ask her to leave or sleep on the sofa alone.

this regret rape shit is real.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon24 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy

So if anyone could come advice with how to protect yourself from false alligation from past or future

Avoid workplace women, or any girl where she can complain about you and be taken seriously.

Keep/document texts, send nice follow up texts after sex, take her for breakfast afterwards.

Don't lead women on, and don't let them feel too upset if you end things (there's ways to do this).

Get to know them before sex, and do walk away from the crazies. Never did a guy think "well, there's a few red flags" and then she turned out to be great. They are ALWAYS crazier than they seem, so heed your gut on this one.

Get more options so you can think more clearly about her crazy some of them are and ditch early.

Learn how stalkers work, what they want, how they operate.

Ideally don't share any social with women - then they have noone to complain to.

Serious false accusations are rare, and false rape criminal convictions are mercifully very rare.

Take good precautions, be honest with women, try to understand how they work, try not to let it worry you too much.

[–]andyturbo2000 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

I had a stalker once. I wish I knew some of the RP stuff then, a lot of the Dread game would translate into dealing with a stalker. They feed off your misery and fear. Remove that and they are pretty much powerless.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Remove that and they are pretty much powerless.

Exactly.

You cut them off 100%. No negotiating, just block them everywhere, blank them, ignore them. Never let them see any reaction ever. No negotiation. Nothing, zip, nada.

They go away eventually once they lose hope of your response. This worked to get rid of mine.

[–]amwfhunter2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I agree honesty is best policy. Esp the more long term she becomes. And yes always be a gentleman and that will likely keep you out of trouble. Being a douche is never the answer.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have to be enough of a douche that she feels you have personal power

[–]amwfhunter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That isn't being a douche that is just being strong haha

[–]pfffft_comeon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Advice on this specifically?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

which bit?

[–]entrep417 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Buy a bodycam like the police have and keep it recording all the time

[–]bottled_butts36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine coming out of the bathroom naked except for a body cam.

“Mam, please state your full name, age, present 2 forms of government id, state what you intend to do here and the duration of this encounter you agree to. This interaction will be recorded in full with audio, archived and you may request records of this via registered mail. You are free to leave at any time. My lawyer Ted will be the witness to this sexual transaction. Do you agree to all terms and services?”

[–]dojurynullification0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This! If I ever come back to the US, even for a nanosecond, I will be strapped, with a body cam!

https://www.amazon.com/body-cameras/s?k=body+cameras

[–]Protocol_Apollo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

u/TheRedPillRipper made a couple articles on this. The articles were edge of consent and the after text

[–]throw_this_far_awayy10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can't. You roll the dice with women at all times. You can have a rape allegation from a woman you have never met and some people will still believe her. People in law enforcement will still have to take into consideration an allegation even without proof. In situations like this it's guilty until proven innocent in the eye's of public opinion. If you are a minority it's even worse because the likely hood of a false allegation leading to real legal consequences is many times higher then the average.

I just recently had an ex who is a text book narcissist go to the police and claimed I was violent 25 years ago and then made up false claims to try and get me arrested this year because she didn't like that I found out about something that makes her look like total shit. The police with no evidence other then her words started an investigation and requested I come in for questioning. I had to get my lawyer to go speak to them. While he was at the police station a friend of his was able to help out my situation by making my lawyer aware of a restraining order my ex's now ex husband has against my ex. My lawyer informed me that some women just default to false claims hoping something sticks just to make them feel better sometimes. He said in the most ridiculous cases he has seen women casually file a false claim and forget about what they claimed less then a day later.

What you hope for if ever have a present or past allegation thrown in your face is competent police work and have competent legal defense. In my past I had a female officer question me for 3 hours due to my ex's false abuse and domestic violence claim. I thought I was literally f__cked due to the questions and attitude the officers were giving me. They took pictures of my hands, and upper body with my shirt off and I was like well I'm done. Then this female office sits me down alone and looks me in the face and asks me "How long have you been letting her hurt you?". I was floored. She told me my hands had no signs I used them to assault or beat my ex. The photos they took documented the deep scratch marks on my neck, shoulders and back. My ex's hands and knuckles looked like she was boxing without gloves and she still had my skin under her nails.

Sorry for being long winded, but what I'm getting at is this. If you have good police doing good police work then you stand a chance. My ex's old allegations and that past investigation save my ass over 20 years later. And the reason she did what she did was because I found out a kid she had was mine. She had to make a choice back when the baby was born and didn't know who the father was. The other guy she was sleeping with when she was engaged with me ended up raising the kid. It's obvious now it's not his kid biologically, but he's got 22 years invested as her dad. I've missed those 22 years and am just now seeing her for the first time and my ex is fighting tooth and nail to keep her from me.

[–]darthsmokey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man buddy thanks for sharing this, i cant imagine what you have gone through. I think after reading your story im seriously going to invest in protecting myself from now on. Lots of advice here will try to take them all in. thx once again !

[–]CamoWoobie100005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The best way is to never have sex, never be alone with a woman, and to record literally everything.

I realize thats not realistic, every step below that is technically taking a risk, so do what youre comfortable with.

[–]Bear-With-Bit4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hit record on audio recording app whenever you're over a girl's place or she's at yours. You might want to check wire tapping law in your state (for US) but regardless it's safe to have the audio just in case. If you ever get accused, only tell your lawyer about the recording.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don't bang questionable hoes.

Always send the next day "had a great time last night" text, which will prompt her to respond in kind, leaving an electronic trail of implied consent.

Don't jerk girls around too much, in a way that might build unreasonable resentment.

[–]acp_rdit6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't bang questionable hoes.

Aren't they all questionable hoes?

[–]ATLASV5518 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

A girl I was gonna smash yesterday sent me a video of her cutting her arms and legs and saying “This is for you babe” so that’s a pretty questionable Ho

[–]IvyExcess3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Run. Just run.

[–]T-P-T-W-P1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t do anything in a workplace and don’t fuck with trashy and/or crazy women. Use common sense. Value women who are genuine/wholesome and don’t take the bait of those who aren’t. Not foolproof, you can still get fucked no matter what. But in most of these situations, these men still make one or more decisions, many innocuous such as turning a blind eye towards irrationality or believing her when she says it isn’t going to let it spill over into the office, that end up regrettable. Just use red blooded common sense and you’ll be protected more so than many.

[–]sebastianconcept1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Keeping texts and pics for proof sounds like something actionable.

What about cameras? having videos of consensual sex would be safe. Specially if she’s on top or receiving oral?

[–]thechaosz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I video everything

[–]caralto1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bodycam.

[–]Slut_Slayer90000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The 3 keys : Be attractive, be good at sex, and make the girl have an enjoyable time. Don't and I repeat this DON'T fuck with girls that are intoxicated, on drugs, or in a state of mind where they would forget you even had sex. If a girl is like that, put her to bed, let her get some sleep and fuck her properly in the morning.

[–]Platinum247365-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Go your own way.

[–]Ass-a-holic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s what I’ve been doing. Have about 8-10 different escorts/sugar babies I see on a regular basis (mostly 19-25 year olds with tight bodies, a MILF, and a black girl for variety.) twice a month at around 300-350 a month.

I just treat it as my mental health days because I have found getting a bj and pounding a tight snatch really helps my mental health.

It’s scary getting into the hobby, most guys won’t have the balls to do it, but once your in, it’s virtually impossible to get a bad whore/experience

It works for me because i find it almost impossible to get attached to women, really only want the physical part



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