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>currency Purportedly wood is one of the rarest materials in the known universe. Personally, I prefer precious metals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:27 AM
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>the fiction both men and women consume. It is not hypocritical. What one consumes however does contributes to one’s worldview. The noble and wise king. The valiant, honourable knight. The villain. Stories are crucial to messaging. If the media one consumes perpetuates a certain message? For instance that there is a wage gap? Whether fictional or not, if an individual does not have the critical thinking skills to discern the difference? That media will impact their worldview. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:22 AM
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>Don’t be a Menace Message! Haha! Just a shout out to one of my favourite flicks of all time hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:45 AM
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>maternity Is a conscious choice. Not only that, it is entirely dependent upon significant biological differences. For instance breastfeeding. Objectively, we cannot compare two very different parenting roles. Primarily because I cannot breastfeed our children, nor objectively facilitate all the positives from that processes that directly involve a biology imperative. A far more egalitarian comparison would leave out maternity as a factor. Instead strictly compare ‘work’ for ‘work’.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:53 PM

>you should do some complaining before you “fix” anything Genuine question; why? For instance I am a black and white thinker. Objectively, when facing any choice or adversity there are only two potential outcomes; the best possible outcome, and every other outcome subsequent to it. All the way down, to the worst potential outcome. Complaining means focusing on the problem, as opposed to the solution. Moreover, it is far more efficient to be solutions oriented. Which means the faster one can move…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:40 PM
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>If I have options I agree with this take. Initial reciprocity for most normal folk is preferred. Additionally, OP objectively either did not see her partner, or his profile did not sufficiently stand out enough to warrant her matching with him. Which means she either did not vet through all her options extensively enough, or did not view her partner’s profile as a viable or even memorable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:04 PM
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>abundant red Fanta Man this triggered a core memory. I remember my first time travelling to Asia as a kid, and getting a red Fanta. I had never seen one before in my life, and thought Fanta was exclusively orange. That was one of the best experiences of my life. It is always just appreciating the little things that contributes to so much fun in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:39 AM
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>does sex adopt that property because it can be monetized? Yes. Primarily because gold is only as valuable as one’s access to it. A fact that is directly analogous to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:18 AM
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>it’s an activity, not a resource If it can be monetised, it adopts the exact same properties as any other commodity or resource. Which makes it analogous to every other commodity or resource that can be traded. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:10 AM
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>Legally this means nothing Good point. Objectively then should we as a society not consider the welfare of the child or children involved? That, to you, is a reasonable point of view?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:55 PM
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>deliberate concealment Genuine question; for the child or children involved; what difference does it make to them if false paternity is discovered? Specifically in context to secure attachment? Arguably newborns are far more dependent upon their mothers than fathers, at least initially. There is however an argument that newborns do bond with fathers. For instance with our first, I was instructed to go ‘skin to skin’ with her. Immediately after birth. That is the sort of core memory that bonds a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:27 PM
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>5ft10 This was what I learned. Objectively 5’9/5’10 is only a few inches off 6ft. Which to the eye, is only slightly noticeable. If that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:31 AM
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Damn! 2/4 again! Thus, my obligatory acceptance of only 50% of your greeting haha! Salutations and best wishes for your day!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:29 AM
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Oh my hahaha! That is too good. Thanks for the chuckle!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:15 AM
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I find this sub so entertaining. It is fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:15 AM
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>the difference Scale. For instance I do okay in the western country I live in. When I go back home to my third world country? I’d live like a king if I was allowed to. The currency is 2:1. Conversely when I travel stateside I essentially am halving my buying power. This premise is exactly applicable to the financial circumstances for individuals in developing nations. If they shack up with a guy from the states? They’re doubling their buying power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:33 PM
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My friend, Descartes, Socrates, Epictetus and the entire pantheon of ancient philosophers where all subject to objective reality. To necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:00 AM
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>Descartes I am fairly confident for Descartes to think, he first had to eat. Though I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:59 PM

>if hypergamy was real The key factor objectively that drives hypergamy is necessity dictates. For instance is it more attractive to be skinny? Or muscular? Socially inept? Or socially adept? Poor? Or wealthy? As soon as the simplest form of objective reasoning is applied, why hypergamy not only exists but underpins the basic foundations of life is clear. It is literally as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:23 PM
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>take a philosophy course The issue with philosophy is it can only exist in context to objective reality. The meaning of life. Morality. Spirituality. Topics of luxury. As opposed to necessity. For instance if a couple cannot feed themselves? How they feel about it is secondary to objective fact. Which is the foundation from which all higher order thinking progresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:09 PM
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>He cant pull this final say terribly often Why not? Objectively, in any big decision there are only two outcomes; yes, or no. Arriving to this directly? Negates all bickering. Compromising. Negotiating. Or variables. Primarily because if one uses objective reasoning there is only going to be one objectively optimal answer. Especially in context to big decisions. Thus if I simply find the objectively beneficial answer? Or what often happens is my wife finds the objectively beneficial answer? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:05 PM
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>you have to show her It is far more efficient, and beneficial to prove to oneself first, what caliber of person they are. Primarily because one’s outcomes not only shows one potential partner who they are, those outcomes show everyone the level an individual is operating at. For instance if my wife of 11 years left me today? Yes, it would be hard. At least initially. Yet I also know if so inclined I would be fine attracting a new partner tomorrow. Which negates my need for my wife to be obedien…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:01 PM
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First, I agree with this post. Thank you [u/Spicy_take](u/Spicy_take). Just few questions if you’re up for it. I have a 17 year old that weight trains. 3 day split. She runs a 25 minute 5km. Plays rugby. Knows a few kicks, punches, and wrestling techniques. Knows if shits the fan the only first choice is run and call for help. Outside of weapons and formal martial training, what else can I do to up-skill her? She’s good socially. Fairly responsible and lets us know where she is and what she is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:40 PM
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>elderly This is what I find tragic about Western culture. In my culture and many similar cultures in The East our elderly are venerated. A key part of one’s ‘village’ thus for the most are treasured and respected. Multi generational homes are the social norm. Not nursing homes. By all appearances it is just a very sad fate for those who end up there. Not to mention those elderly who live alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:20 PM

>the only things that can considered attractive Yeah this was a bit of an eye opener for me. When younger I did okay dating so never put much thought into it. After my first divorce though I was a little more intentional. Paid attention to women complimenting me. Weird ones I’d never thought of; nice almond eyes. Nice lashes. Hands. Forearms. There was the usual too; nice arms. Nice legs. Nice butt. Yet women notice so many little things that I for the life of me would never have guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:15 PM

>short shorts As a rugby player I can confirm. Great for summer. Even better in winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:04 PM
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>not testing my point Primarily because your point is subsequent to mine. You’re fixated on statistics. Which is fine. My point is however is rooted in objective reasoning. Specifically, the objective reality of every single human being on the planet. From which all your statistics, information and data is derived. Thus, if you cannot retort the fact that physiology, then external stimuli are the two primary factors that inform the worldview of every single human on the planet? We can move a ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:27 PM
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>Unknowable. Interesting point. Let’s test it. Objectively. For instance for every single human being on the planet; does their physiology impact how they view the world? Genetics. Physical stature. Facial features. Mental capacity. Skin colour. Biological sex. Objectively, the answer for most reasonable people is straightforward. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:11 PM
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>the distribution Okay. Let’s simplify the point using objectivity. For instance objectively are nature and nurture not the two primary factors that influence an individual’s worldview? If not, why not? If so, in what way? For instance, in how an individual exercises their agency? Is this not the objective reality of every single human being on the planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:02 PM
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>so heavily correlated The root cause of how one views the world comes down to two factors; first nature, then nurture. Objectively these two factors determine how much agency an individual can exercise in response to external stimuli. For instance take political affiliation. Say an individual is a third generation democrat. Are they more likely to stay voting for the democrats? Or not? Conversely say an individual is a third generation capitalist. So the party may not be as important as the pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:46 PM
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>married This is a good point. I’m 11 years removed from dating to, thus I have to keep a very open mind when it comes to the realities of dating in the current SMP. That said, regardless of the spread of any ideology, be it Feminism or TRP the key factor has always been and will always be individual agency. It underpins how one chooses to view the world, irrespective of their objective reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:03 AM
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>Sell your computer, challenge yourself more. Oddly enough, I recently just taught myself how to replace a broken screen on my old MacBook Pro. So I’m slowly learning the hardware side of things. My next challenge will be to better understand the software/coding side. To better understand it, then better understand the machinations behind complex systems like A.I. and algorithms. Eventually teach myself a little coding. Yet that’s quite a while down the track. >preach inviting challenge Genuine …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:45 AM
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Who is she? Did Norway even progress?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:44 AM
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My favourite thing about moving is going through all the boxes that were stuck in the attic. Or the back of the garage. Old photos. Music instruments. Toys. Hell even forgotten about Christmas decorations. It’s like your own personal time capsule.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:43 AM
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>Preaching what you refuse to practice I agree. Roughly 9 years straight of 75+ hours weeks, plus one failed marriage was not too big a deal. Nor the six figures+ I dropped in legal fees fighting for the 3 years following that divorce. Just to earn the same legal right to parent my child. In terms of adversity? No struggle at all. That said, currently? I’m chasing far bigger goals. So even if my wife left me today? Tried to take the kids? Took ownership of all our joint assets? I’d still chase t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:52 PM
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>The poverty and homelessness will make food and shelter so much sweeter Agreed. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:22 PM
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>I remember feeling like a stupid moron That’s understandable. If you can’t remember too well, could you guess what that very first breath after almost drowning felt like? The primary reason for this question is to establish sufficient perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:29 AM
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First, commiserations my guy for the loss of your friend. That’s hard to go through. Hope you have some good memories to treasure him by. >almost drowned Do you remember how you felt immediately after?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:27 AM
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Okay. Let’s try a different tack. Do you know how to swim?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:16 AM
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>I don’t understand why Okay. Let’s see if we can help understand each other better. Is there something that you excel at?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:56 AM

>resort to personal insults Objectively, if an individual has to resort to insults, trolling or rage baiting does that say more about me? Or them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:08 PM
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>you have a perfect scenario in your head Not quite. The primary reason I ask though is because I am a perfectionist. So when it came time for our kids, I had a solid plan in place. As such whilst our pregnancies and maternity leave were both reasonably straightforward, I’m always thinking about what we could have done better. Hence gaining the views of what others view as optimal. Then comparing their viewpoints objectively. For instance we can both view our own set ups as ‘great’. Or ‘solid’. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:54 PM
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>12 weeks >blessed to have a hybrid job >pump in the HR supply closet Objectively do you think your set up was optimal? If so, how? If not, what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:46 PM

>There’s really no point I disagree. The primary I post or comment is because I want my viewpoints challenged. Thus white knights, angry women and anyone else who disagrees with my points is who I am looking for. Primarily because if they too debate in good faith, we can often find common ground to broaden both our perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:40 PM
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>no, nothing Interesting point. Objectively I’d imagine if one were say struggling to breathe? You’d agree there would be substantial benefit in overcoming that set of circumstances. The exact same premise is applicable to drinking water. Eating. Making bank. Conversely, say one is just given money. Given food. Your easy wins. What level of appreciation would they have? More importantly, objectively what skillsets would one master if they’re given everything? What direct experience in acquiring …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:35 PM
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>a Star Trek gal As an aspiring ‘Trekky’ I’m going hit the next girl up I see with a Star Trek shirt on with ‘Live long and prosper’. It’s one of my favourites! Also why can’t cold approaching be fun? Stars Wars. Pokémon. If I see someone who has made a conscious choice to wear merchandise from a fandom I share? I love chatting to them about it. It’s exactly the same when I see fellow Cowboys fans out in the wild. I can’t help myself and usually just joke in my best ‘Jimmy Johnson’ impersonation…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:29 PM

Interesting conclusion. I agree it’s highly likely you’re correct. I get downvoted a bit and don’t know who does it, so just presume those people cannot debate sufficiently to retort my viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:19 PM
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>it’s a great set up Genuine question; postpartum what was your timeframe for returning work?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:15 PM
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>glorify struggle Genuine question; in your view is there anything beneficial about struggle? About adversity? If so, what? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:11 PM

How can you tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 PM
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I just want to say I’m sorry your experiences were like that. We’ve been lucky enough to experience both an intervention free home birth, and a c-section. So my wife has had experience at both extremes. Medical intervention whilst a wonder of modern technology has its place, and rightfully so. The home birth however was one of the most powerful experiences I ever got to witness. Just awe inspiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:43 PM
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Hehe! My grandfather had two wives, but no. I know my limitations. Whilst my partner is my second wife, I prefer my partners one at a time haha! Also, as to funding maternity our government does subsidise 6 months of paid maternity leave and 12 months job protection leave. Though I can’t recall if she used it. Additionally, there’s been periods where she’s taken time off(a few months here and there) where I’ve covered that as well. Then just changed jobs. So I can’t recall if she was eligible fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:13 PM
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>dating/attention dispensers Genuine question; if most women see an individual primarily as a dating/attention dispenser? Who is responsible for this fact? Additionally, who is solely responsible for addressing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:06 PM
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>she had to fund her own maternity leave She could afford to fund her own maternity leave. Plus a privately engaged midwife. Plus private hospital fees. The point being we we’re blessed enough to be in a position where funding was not an issue, so the first thing we both prioritized was time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:51 PM
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>want to be in control I have the opposite view; most people regardless of gender by default cede control. Primarily because most humans by nature are lazy. For instance we have our food delivered to us. Cars drive us around. Autonomously. A.I. Conversely, there are those who limit their use of tools like A.I. Like the GPS. Primarily because they prefer to control the fact if the GPS goes out, they’ve already memorised the route. Or retained to memory pertinent information, making A.I. mostly su…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:27 PM
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2/4 so I’ll only accept 50% of your greetings hehe! Good morning!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:17 PM
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Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:15 PM
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Little man Syndrome. Takes less strength to pull someone or something down, than it does to lift them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:13 PM
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Hehe! Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:10 PM
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>shopping at Target We’re moving soon and my wife is throwing out most of our towels. She really likes the ‘grandeur’ towels and bath sheets. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:26 PM
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Non worker chiming in! Though I’m my advice is aimed at helping, it also is for my own benefit as well. I like to test my worldview often, just so my perspective does not lose its width.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:22 PM
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>a six pack This is a good thing. Primarily because if the vast majority of women do not know a man with a six pack, most men have the ability to become one of those rare men that do. It’s not even complicated either. Simply eat a deficit for 24 months and move daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:19 PM
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>There is no point where people will tell a man “Actually, you’re good enough as you are”. One of the biggest flaws in this viewpoint is it frames adversity as a negative. When adversity is the spice that gives success a far more satisfying flavour. For instance objectively, what is more fulfilling; when one has competed, struggled against a truly testing battle and won through? Or an easy victory? This is an ancient perspective too. Camus’s taught us we must imagine Sisyphus happy. Socrate’s la…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:06 PM
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>massive financial hit This is the key differentiating factor. For instance during my first marriage, I worked 80+ hour weeks. So whilst we were good financially even as a single income family, there was just no substitute for time. Conversely prior to my second marriage, I knew I had to change. So set things up so I didn’t have to work. The difference? Was night and day. It also helped that I chose a partner that owned a few assets too. So when she went on maternity leave she had 24 months off …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:53 PM
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Moving houses soon. Very exciting times. Our kids have only ever lived in our current house, so whilst our 10 year old was initially really sad, she is now really excited. We keep driving past our new house, primarily because we’re moving from one house to another, in the same street hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:46 PM

>how my husband operated The key also is not only how one’s potential partner currently operates, but anticipating and preparing well for how an ideally realistic lifestyle will operate together. When my wife and I were doing pre marriage counselling it was a great exercise, because of the two of us I prefer order. A place for everything, and everything in its place. For instance my wife likes cleanliness, but she’s okay with just dumping the shoes in a shoe basket. Conversely I built a custom s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:41 PM
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>off topic How so? The topic is about how objectively, financial abortions are not legally feasible. To recap my first viewpoint; they are. We simply legislate them as the default legal footing. The primary rationale being, objectively they empower men to proactively invest in their potential offspring because they have to consciously choose to do so. Whilst also empowering women by default with information about the calibre of man who chooses not to. Which objectively in context to the choice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:52 PM
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>You can’t legislate a solution The primary reason default financial abortions can be effective is because it serves two purposes; first it empowers men to consciously choose to be an active parent. By giving them legally recognised agency, to make that choice. Second, it draws a clear line in the sand for women. Thus by default women are far better informed, as to whether to proceed from conception to childbirth with any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:38 PM
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>COL One maxim I was taught very early on is this; it’s not a pricing problem; it’s an income problem. I’m a little removed by when I was a teenager, my father sold me his old car. Made a couple hundred bucks off me. I learned right there, that it’s not the price, but what I do with my money that matters. Sure, stuff is expensive. We can always make more money though. It’s why I never sweat the small stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:30 PM
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>wouldn’t fly in any court Whilst I agree the current system is flawed, the aim should be to establish equality to the extent it is applicable. For instance take rape. If a man is a victim and subsequently a father due to rape? What level of child support should he be liable for? What about if a woman sabotages the condom? Or lies about being on birth control? What level of victimhood should absolve a man of his financial obligation? Now, a more common scenario; if contraception fails? Objective…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:25 PM
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>a child’s mom doesn’t have the right to terminate a child’s rights to resources from it’s father. Genuine question; when does a child attain the right to resources from their father? At conception? First trimester? At birth? A child’s right to resources is dependent upon them existing in the first place. Removing the ambiguity by default ensures that those men who actually want to provide for their potential offspring, have to make a conscious effort to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:00 PM
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>punish The point is not about punishment. It is about agency. For instance when both parties agree to partake in safe sex by using contraception; is their primary goal to have a baby? Or just sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:56 PM
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>It doesn’t have needs Genuine question; does a man then have a financial obligation to that clump of potential cells? If so, to what degree can and should a man have the right to advocate for that clump of cells?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:28 PM
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>establish financial and material support since the start The most efficient solution is to make financial abortions the default legal footing. Then have men opt in. Thus children minded men can simply opt in prior to conception even happening, and women have all the information they need to make a better informed decision. Before the clothes even come off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:32 PM
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>potential life trumps the mothers The primary issue however is agency. Objectively a potential mother consciously chose to have sex. Conception occurring does not absolve her of her choice to have sex with that specific man. So if she chose well by say having sex with her husband? There is little issue. Conversely if she chose to engage in casual sex with a stranger? How is she considering the needs of the fetus making a decision like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:11 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM AFRAIDTOASK SUB Had threesome 2 years ago and it's ruining me, help please? Hello, I (27F) had threesome with 2 guys 2 years ago and the situation is so fucked up. I agreed to this, then the guys spread rumours about it and I'm from small town so everyone heard it. I got depressed actually and had suicidal thoughts. Last year I met my soon to be fiance. He asked me about this rumour and I love him so much that I lied to him and said that it's just a rumour. Oh and the thing is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:02 AM

>They run a hustle I wonder if they can see what they’re doing is what poor people do. Have they no pride? Shame? Or do young people not think like that anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:05 PM

Poor things. I pity women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:46 PM

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/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:29 PM

As someone sober for the last 8 years, I don’t know either. Just kidding. I’m happy enough without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:59 PM

That’s enough internet for me today.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:57 PM

Hehe! Love it! I think they actually make the playoffs. Big Caleb and Ben fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:56 PM
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This is anecdotal but I do it directly. The key is setting. Straight after sex? Probably not the best setting. Conversely at a resort during digestif? Have been far more.. Fruitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:48 AM
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I’m right there with you. Snakes fascinate and terrify me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:32 AM
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>Guy got multiple dates I agree with this take. He’s attractive enough to get positive responses. Cold approach is not dead, it just takes a little more skill. I’m confident if he had said ‘Hey those shoes look cute on you’ or highlighted something that she put effort into? The compliment would have been far more positively received. Or, she was just having that sort of day. So no amount of random positivity was going to disrupt whatever issues she was going through at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:22 AM
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>Most women have an endless sea of options I wonder how many women would agree with this viewpoint. Especially if they use social media which can and purportedly does skew perception. >Its just a description ‘Endless seas’ as an adjective is emotive language, which whether by design or unintentionally elicits an emotional response. Conversely rephrased neutrally as ‘men face rejection’ is a far more objective description. The primary point being that readers have no other point of context than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:50 PM
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Circle of life, but no. One of my wife’s besties has three albino pythons. Whilst the kids are fascinated when we hang out there, I will not leave her beer garden or tv room. No hate for snake people, it’s just not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:34 PM
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La.. Laveeto..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:31 PM
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>her description I did not need to. All I needed to read was; >my mind is so messed up right now. Anything preceding or after that admission is secondary to the primary issue; which is his reaction. For instance my marriage of 11 years could end tomorrow. Yes. It would be hard. At least initially. I however have enough perspective to know eventually we will all be okay. So that would be my primary focus. Not on how ‘messed up’ things were, because I understand and accept all relationships end. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:23 PM
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>posting thirst traps The bigger issue is not the posting, it’s the consuming. We live in an attention economy. Objectively if an individual is spending a significant amount of their time online, they are consciously choosing to be part of a captured audience. Me included. Bleacher Report. Reddit. Pinterest. All my guilty pleasures. Which I have to make a conscious effort to direct my attention away from. Especially in my downtime. For instance my wife and I after the kids are asleep will just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:31 PM
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>Tom Cruise His all time favourite scene of mine was when he was jumping up and down on Oprah’s couch. Best. Acting. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:16 PM
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His response justified her decision. He could’ve thanked her for her honestly, then kept it moving. He chose.. Poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:55 PM
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>I dont sweat the small stuff once I love someone Agreed. I however think it is even more beneficial to apply this viewpoint to strangers. Primarily because objectively the smaller one can minimise the emotional impact the decisions others have on themselves? The easier one can traverse adverse situations. Regardless of who has contributed to them. Take for instance the women who told unprompted that they went spans without paying for a meal. Does that say more about the men who paid? Or those w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:46 PM
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>helps them build character First great points. Say one lacks character. Lacks discipline and resilience. Lacks motivation. Whether it’s the military or marriage, objectively if a catalyst spurs one to build these facets of their lives? Is it more beneficial to them? Or less? The most efficient way socially awkward and unattractive men can attain solid outcomes? Is if they first acknowledge their limitations, then work directly at mitigating them. Then focus on building upon their strengths. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:29 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM A RELATIONSHIP ADVICE SUB Help! My son's (20M) GF (19F) wears inappropriate/very revealing clothing with us in public. I'd like to address it before an upcoming family vacation. How can I tactfully handle this? TLDR at the end. My family (my husband, my mother, our son, his girlfriend, and I) were just on vacation together in a pretty fancy location. We're taking a vacation again together later this summer with similar vibes. We are in the US. My son's girlfriend is lovely and we …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:16 PM
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He must’ve got a better offer from Blackrock..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:35 PM
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>I’m not worth less than her I’ve always viewed it the opposite way; she’s only worth a dinner. If a woman thinks a free dinner is all she wants from me? Then ghosts me? I’ve always thought it hilarious, because she never really ‘tapped the well’. Conversely when my wife and I were doing our pre marriage counselling and pre-nups agreed all properties acquired during the marriage would have a single owner. So she owns outright our current ppr, despite me solely putting down a sizeable down paymen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:31 PM
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>did i say it was a negative? When rejection is framed as >the endless sea of rejections Is the implication more positive? Or more negative? I might be alone in my interpretation but reading the comment it would appear your intent was to frame dating and rejection as an ‘endless sea’ a man has to navigate. When in reality adversity is the spice that gives success a far more satisfying flavour. Especially in context to dating, rejection and relationships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:30 AM
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>the endless sea of rejections that have to be persevered through Why is this always framed so negatively? Is resilience not beneficial? Perseverance? What about learning to handle rejection with grace and maturity? Through sheer volume? Conversely what is lost? The attention of a woman who was not interested anyway? Dating, for men is by far more beneficial than it is detrimental. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:42 AM
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>Not really Okay. Let’s say you’re right. Jenny is not really disabled. Does sexual assault create trauma? Specifically; to children as their brains develop? If not, why not? If so, how? Psychologically? Physiologically? Are these conditions debilitating? >can be worked on Now, I agree that those conditions can and should be worked on. That said, if the hypothetical is staying true to the movie? Jenny did not appear to make very good decisions. Which leads us as viewers to the conclusion she did…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:25 PM
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Happy Summer Solstice!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:14 PM
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>Forrest Gump is mentally impaired So was Jenny. The only difference was degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:55 AM
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Phird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:27 AM

Poor guy. I hope he found happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:02 AM
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>legitimate screening choices Agreed. When I was dating as soon as a woman rejected my coffee and walk date? I’d keep it moving. It wasn’t even about the money. For both of us, it was a great first date because it was low pressure, got us both out and moving and most importantly; was in a public place. Often early morning. Thus far safer than a dinner in the evening, that potentially could move into late night. Ideal for meeting a stranger, even if that person was a potential partner. It was gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:58 AM
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>crying over your dog of 17 years dying Whilst I understand and accept emotions are inherent, to what degree should we enable them? Take for instance a beloved pet dying. Why is the focus primarily on the loss? Why not the memories of all the good? Of gratitude? For instance there was a great comment on reddit a while ago about how to view grief. Paraphrasing it said grief comes in waves. At first, it is like a tsunami. It hits. One is swept away in an emotional storm. Drowns. A week later anoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:17 AM

Any decision that’s considered a ‘life’ decision. For instance we both attended private schools. I presumed that was going to be the same for our kids. After deliberating, due to where we leave the public school had a really great reputation. So my partner wanted to try it out. I was against it initially, but she made the point that we’d save a significant amount of money. Plus the private school I was planning on sending the kids to was out of area. So objectively she was right, and that’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:27 AM
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>semi-segregated online spaces and their consequences The pivotal factor is not online, but the lack of critical thinking applied to objective reality. For instance if an individual simply heads outside, they will observe that the myriad of other human beings on the planet are more similar to them than different. They breathe. Eat. Sleep. Think. Struggle. Find joy. Applying objectivity is the most efficient and arguably effective lens to gain sufficient perspective. So one is not hindered by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:41 PM

>the line you and your partner Solely establish. Inconsistency only exists due to uncertainty. For instance my wife knows my primary rationale for life decisions is objectivity. She hates the word. Yet for our decade plus together whenever we’ve disagreed, if a decision is an objectively poor one she only has two choices; accept my rationale, or end the relationship. It’s impossible to be inconsistent nor entertain inconsistency when one builds their entire worldview upon objectivity. It is lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:47 PM
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>How would you feel Currently with little kids during the week we mostly just have vanilla quickies. On weekends though we get a little more experimental. I train a lot and my wife is in our home gym fairly consistently. So Friday or Saturdays when our eldest is out partying, we’ll mix it up. We usually have a few orgasms between us, but the focus is more on the experience. Playing around and trying new things. Not counting orgasms. If my wife was getting there more times than me? It would not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:04 PM
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>Make it make sense The key difference is this; >very little effort Let’s adopt your point of view. One couple are putting ‘very little effort’ into their relationship to make it work. Say the basic minimum. Conversely, another couple prioritize high effort and investment in their relationship. Objectively, which dynamic is more likely to lead to a healthier relationship? Additionally, what is more attractive; a high effort individual? Or a low effort individual?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:45 PM
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>worth the effort All relationships require effort. At the least healthy ones. If an individual views a potential partner as ‘not worth the effort’ because that person is ‘too’ high value? That says more about the individual than the high value people they attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:21 PM
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>a man who is tall, attractive, and/or a high earner The key difference is objectively once a man attains a reasonably decent status, there is a plethora of younger, more beautiful women available to them. Conversely for high caliber women? There is not an abundance of taller, richer and more attractive men available. Arguably too, that pool of high caliber men only gets smaller as youth and beauty diminishes in comparison to their competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:33 PM
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>rather than marry down or risk the losses that can come with divorce. In my experience it’s the other way; most men prefer being married. For instance though my friends and I are not rich we do okay. 3/4 of us are on our second marriages. Additionally, almost all the fairly affluent folk I know are on their second or third marriages. One my bestie’s former father-in-law is ‘home office’ wealthy. He’s on his fourth. Divorce is not that bad. If anything, I’m grateful for it. Though it cost a fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:08 PM
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>A high value woman thinks Not only that she is owed something, but that her value in The SMP is the same as a high caliber man’s. Objectively, it is not. Women in general are valued for their youth and beauty. Whilst men, in addition to surpassing a minimum threshold of appearance? Are also vetted by what they can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:59 PM
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There is very little to admire about the leaders you have mentioned. If anything at all. The line, for me, as stated above is reasonableness. As soon as anyone’s actions surpasses reason, their actions are no longer open to admiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:32 AM
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>where the line is For me it’s reasonableness. My preference is towards democracy and capitalism, but I am an advocate of the benefits of uplifting the disadvantaged too. So lean more centrist than not. It’s why I volunteer a ton because having race days and black tie events a great, but I derive a great deal of joy and fulfilment from actually helping folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:32 AM
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>Margaret Thatcher I admire Thatcher. Regardless of her politics it takes a tremendous amount of ability to hold the Prime Ministership for as long as she did. Angela Merkel is another I admire for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:06 PM
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>been trying for a while Genuine question; say you escalate. Get what you want. Then what? Focus on your kids? Enjoy your time with your partner? Build memories? A future? If you want to lower yourself in front of your children and loved ones, no one can stop you. If you want to model for them what patience, self control and strength looks like in a healthy adult? That choice too is yours. Choose wisely. Godspeed and good luck!
/r/Divorce_Men10/06/26 04:10 AM
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>refusing to learn Good point. Objectively what role does self belief and self confidence play in the process of learning? For instance, if one has no self belief or self confidence that they can learn? Is that beneficial? Or, is encouraging self belief and self confidence that one can learn a more beneficial approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:27 PM

>l learned some lessons Objectively, have those lessons been beneficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:23 PM
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>missing fundamental things The issue is objectively self belief and self confidence precedes all the fundamental things. For instance acquiring social skill. As a volunteer to young guys with Autism the first thing I encourage is that self belief. That self confidence. To start with their internal dialogue. Can that lead to overcompensation? Certainly. In my decade of experience with these young men though it is far more beneficial to aim high and fail upwards, than be mired in negative thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:56 PM
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>not how it effected me. Genuine question; how does it affect you now? Not at all? If so; how did you get to this point? If it still affects you; to what extent? Also, if you do not want to answer by all means please do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:38 PM
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>lasting mental harm Genuine question; when does The Victimhood Mentality end? Can it? Objectively, an individual is a victim. Is that then it for them? They are beholden to that identity forever? If not, why not? How does one sufficiently address first the harm, then the lasting impact? If so, what level of victimhood then is irreconcilable? Rape? Torture? Short of death, what experience is it reasonable to say; that is unforgivable? For instance I teach all my kids that Forgiveness is not abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:40 AM
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Haha! Too true. Got to think outside the box.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:51 AM
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Hehe! That’s true. Some special folk here at PPD(myself included haha!). Any suggestions to try and help people come together?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:46 AM
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>chatting with a real person This is a fantastic point. What about instead of revealing a pic, it auto generated a date? Say, ice skating. Or bowling. Or something that they both have in common. Take the pressure off, whilst still facilitating depth of connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:06 AM
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HYPOTHETICAL4ALL: How beneficial would a dating app be with no pics? For instance one builds a profile, likes, dislikes, core values, hobbies and interests. Once they match with another person then pics are released. Any merit? Or am I being a hopeless romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:55 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM A FEMINISM SUB Is this subreddit sex worker positive? Or does it not take an official stance on sex work? TOP COMMENT Sex worker positive, yes. Sex work positive, no. SECOND COMMENT What do you mean by "sex worker positive"? Most feminists do not label sex work as a particularly feminist endeavor for many reasons, but wouldn't say that sex workers inherently can't be feminist because obviously that isn't true. As for my piece, I don't think we should encourage young women to becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:44 PM
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>I think the belief everything can be solved gives us hope The issue with this viewpoint is it objectively limits one’s worldview. Before they can even test that belief, as one’s internal dialogue is fundamental in how one faces adversity. That is not to say being realistic is detrimental. It is fundamental. Yet how does one spur themselves to action without Hope? >our doomed existences For instance look up Dr David Sinclair out of Harvard(great episode on The Modern Wisdom Podcast). His lab is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:23 PM
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traditional in the south to show up with food Or if told to bring nothing, a bottle of something. We keep a few bottles of Veuve and red and always bring a bottle of both. I just love to reciprocate the generosity. Fills my cup, and is a beautiful tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:08 PM
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a lot of women are insecure/anxious I agree with this. One common factor I found was how subtly pervasive Fear is for women. Which is understandable. One thing however I taught my 17 year old was to be cautious, but as fearless as possible. It’s why she weight trains. Runs a reasonable 5km. Plays rugby. So if push comes to shove and she finds herself in abusive or dangerous situation? She has at least some tools at her disposal. I obviously cannot relate to a woman’s attraction to abuse. I do ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:13 AM
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might find it difficult The most efficient system is to delineate between if one is objectively independent, or possesses some form of disability. Take for instance mental health issues. Whether physiological or psychological, having such a disability presumably precludes one from attaining their desired outcome. So addressing the underlying cause is the most direct route to empowering change. Conversely, an objectively independent individual? Needs little to no protection, because they are suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:58 AM

Yep. Hard no from me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:35 AM

I stripper I dated had a similar designed bathroom. All pink with anime characters. A padded toilet seat. I should not have entertained that relationship as long as I did, but the memories were worth it hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:35 AM

Sorry to hear my friend. Wishing you a speedy recovery and solid dental cover. Also regular cleans are free with most good plans. I go quarterly which for me seems to work well. Best wishes with getting it sorted!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:32 AM

CROSSPOST FROM A DATING ADVICE SUB Would you date the sibling of someone you’ve previously dated? It was causal. Didn’t sleep together and only dated for a couple of months. Too weird? The sibling liked me on hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:24 AM

I volunteer a ton and am currently the assistant manager of my middle kid’s soccer team. Had a tournament yesterday, coach was out sick and ask me to step in as interim coach. So was essentially coaching a bunch of 12 year old girls. What an experience. As an extrovert the thing that fascinates me most was regardless of age was how they interpret and respond to external stimuli. Furthermore, my own responses when investing my time, energy and effort into others with sole intention of helping the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:07 AM
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patriarchy normalizes power imbalance between men and women; men have weaponized their power against women and other men. The primary issue with viewing social hierarchies at any scale or timeframe as ‘a patriarchy’? Is it does not reflect reality. For instance what is the primary method a society uses to establish boundaries and exercise power? Even today? It is not politics. It is not the law. It is the threat of violence. Even at a point in history societies are the most civilised they have e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:48 PM
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other then using her for her own body Genuine question; during casual relationships is she not using men for their own bodies too? Sounds a lot like equality to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:25 PM

>try to find people you have things in common with The *primary* factor for most normal folk ‘find in common’ is reciprocal attraction. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:09 AM

>Many women dont have those things as their primary attractors The issue is that cohort is *a minority.* Arguably too an extreme minority. The reason being is humans are primarily visual creatures. So basing one’s dating strategy upon an extreme minority is *not* advisable. >there’s a lot of variance Objectively variance occurs *on a scale*. So converse to focusing on a minority of women it is far more beneficial to focus one’s dating strategy on maximising as broad a span of women on that scale…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:32 AM

>but its the system that is complex Agreed. Objectively, can one understand the complexity of a system if they do not *first* understand the simple? For instance; does being physically fit, financially comfortable and socially adept make dating easier? The answer is straightforward. In other words; *simple*.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:28 PM
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Yes why not? Agreed. Which means *after* a man ejaculates a woman *still* has the power to decide whether to make that man a father. Thus, if a man *does not* want kids? Is proceeding with the decision to make that man a father an objectively smart decision? The answer is straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:56 PM
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That’s on him Agreed. Does that then mean post conception a woman not have the power to decide to proceed to childbirth?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:49 PM

they always know what another person thinks It might be the opacity, or it might be the fact observable patterns of behaviour are repeatedly experienced. Furthermore, these patterns transcend locality, culture and are consistently observed globally. Contributing to reasonably accurate theories and strategies. Which is certainly akin to.. Child’s play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:44 AM
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abortion needs to be allowed no matter what. Agreed. The pivotal point is post-conception. Plan B. Other forms of post conception birth control. All should be reasonably accessible in the case of unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:50 AM

Smart people Would not lower themselves to implying others are simple. That, thankfully is not the topic of debate. That said, those who can rub two brain cells together would understand even complex systems start with simple parts. For instance if one is physically fit, socially adept and financially comfortable? Those factors make dating easier. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:42 AM

they do not know each other at all Women are simple; if one is attractive enough? That will make dating easy for you. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:22 AM
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society as a whole isn’t sociopathic enough to let kids starve. This is a good point. If a man does not want kids, is it sociopathic for a woman to decide to make that man a father? If not, is it a good decision? Or even just a reasonable one?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:42 AM
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actual abortion was free Agreed. The only way paper abortions make sense is when women have equal agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:08 AM
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men have reproductive rights and can decide for themselves if they will become parents, just like women can. The simplest method is to enact paper abortions as the default legislation. Then give men the option to ‘opt in’. Pre coitus. Post conception. Men who want to provide simply sign on to their reproductive rights at any time. For instance husbands can sign on at marriage, or de facto relationships when they start trying for a baby. Tie it to the man’s taxes/income and when he signs on he si…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:37 PM
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opting out should be costly Okay. Let’s say I agree; opting out should be costly. Let’s spitball a figure; $5k? Too much? $50? Too little? $500k? The issue with monetising procreation is it primarily focuses on the fiscal facet of child rearing, and not what is actually most beneficial for the child. Which purportedly is a two parent household. Conversely if paper abortions are the default, as soon as a man opts in that is a clear cut commitment. At the very least financially, but more commonly …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:38 PM
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Not only that but have registered. I posited a simpler solution; just make it the default legal stance. Then give men the option to ‘opt in’. Pre coitus. Post conception. Men who want to provide simply sign on at any time. For instance husbands can sign on at marriage. Or defacto relationships when they start trying for a baby. Tie it to the man’s taxes/income. No need for extra bureaucratic expenditure; same outcome. More importantly; it empowers women to only consider having children with men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:17 PM

more important than the desire for sex. This is a good point. Which raises the question; if one has all the sex they desire; what would they do? That is the most efficient way to determine what motivates someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:00 PM

First, sorry I forgot to reply. talk therapy I’m not the smartest so I simplify things down; I found the key is Objectivity. Whether that’s derived through Tetris or talking, the goal is the same; to hone a system of emotional regulation that allows one to acknowledge, accept and ultimately let go of detrimental emotions. To prevent making poor choices. For instance I had to do a ton of counselling, to better understand how I processed my emotional reactions. Primarily because I was raised in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:50 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM A WHATDO SUB I slept with my girlfriend’s sister years ago and she just found out. What do I do? I’m 27M and have been with my girlfriend (26F) for almost 3 years. We were talking about random stories from our past with her family a few nights ago when something came up that I thought would never matter again. Before I met my girlfriend, I had a brief hookup with her older sister. It happened once at a party years ago. There were no feelings involved, we never dated, and we never …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:08 PM
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why desire her sexually? Whilst I agree the primary reason is because Testosterone is a hell of drug, the key is how much self control a man possesses over their sex drive. That determines if they ‘need’ to masturbate or have sex daily or just consistently. That is not to deride the social benefits of being sexually desirable. Objectively however it behooves one to keep that fact in perspective. Though fundamental, sex is still only one facet of a full and happy life. Balance pivotal in how one …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:19 PM
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Emotional connection is dependent upon emotional stability. If one or both parties have poor emotional regulation? How healthy can the emotional connection be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:03 AM

>more than once a month Same. Yet we take what we can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:38 AM

Love ya right back my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:15 AM

>don’t have time to hang My besties and I meet once a month for weekend away. Usually dinner, drinks and gambling but sometimes the occasional game of whatever sportsball we can get tickets to. If you cherish the friendship, you’ll find the time to nurture it. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:15 AM
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>I have an antedote. Genuine question; male or female, who is ultimately responsible for their own emotional regulation? Getting support is fine. Seeking help or an objective point of view can be beneficial. The most efficient method however? Is honing internal strategies that negate emotionally driven actions. For instance hitting the heavy bag when angry. Running. Or journalling when sad. Painting. Sketching. Lifting weights. Cycling. A great tip I adopted was to have several email addresses. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:25 AM
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>exchange Genuine question; objectively is a relationship an exchange? If not; why not? If so; how? The premise falls apart as soon as one acknowledges objective reality; relationships are an exchange. Time. Energy. Effort. All quantifiable metrics almost all normal folk use to gauge their relationships by. Furthermore; sex and money? Are purportedly two of the biggest factors in relationship breakdown. It is literally as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:18 AM
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>the core of the manosphere I second this. My experience was through all the self improvement stuff. Focusing on agency. Sure, there was The Anger Phase but that didn’t last long. What happened was all the effective advice contributed to me actualising my dream. So I can’t fault it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:27 PM
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You made a good point my guy. It is solid, common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:18 PM
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>doesn’t want his baby mama My friend if there is no baby, then there is no baby mama drama. As soon as a man says he does not want the child, the objectively smart decision is for a woman not to proceed to childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:16 PM
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Apologies. You’re right. That said to your point let’s flip the question; how accurate is one’s worldview without comparing current experiences to previous ones? For instance the gaslighting and love-bombing analogy above? Objectively comparison as a tool towards forming a well informed worldview is fundamental. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:11 PM
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>identical No. Your viewpoint is too narrow because your original comment states; >I never even think about other men when I’m with a boyfriend. Which omits the most critical part; the process involved for that man to become your boyfriend in the first place. For instance prior to finding a boyfriend, if one had never experienced gaslighting, or love-bombing? Objectively one would not be too well equipped to spot those factors. Conversely, if one had previously experienced those red flags? They …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:58 PM
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>I didn’t think that’s what most people do. Let’s look at it objectively; how does an individual form their worldview? For instance from birth, every single interaction with another human influences how an individual perceives the world around them. Their mother. Father. Siblings and extended family. Friends. Agreed? Now, apply that same premise to dating. Prior to any individual’s first date; what has primarily influenced their perception of the opposite sex? It will be the members of the oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:32 PM
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>I never think about other men The issue however is prior to becoming your boyfriend that man was an unknown quantity to you. So your primary frame of reference was your previous relationship experience with other men. Or even if one has no previous relationship experience, one would compare the relationships of other men in their lives. Fathers. Uncles. Friend’s dads. All directly or indirectly informing one’s worldview of ‘a man’ and subsequent vetting process. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:00 AM
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>Maybe she doesn’t want to abort That is fine. She should then consider only having relations with men that do want kids. Again, if a man does not want kids and has sex with understanding that will not happen? Then a woman is making not making an objectively smart decision proceeding to childbirth with that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:32 AM
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>what’s normal around you is never normal to everybody The primary retort is when one’s subjective observations objectively scale out. For instance if one is physically strong and capable in Rome, they’re going to be just as physically strong and capable in Vegas. If they’re financially comfortable in Miami, they’re going to be reasonably comfortable in London. If enough subjective observations are repeatedly observed across a multitude of differing circumstances? A reasonably accurate pattern c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:41 PM
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>focus on how to get women Whilst I agree that narrowing options down is beneficial, for those struggling the most effective strategy is to acquire as many options as possible first. Hence broadening one’s worldview and dating strategies sufficiently, that one is as attractive to as broad a pool of potential partners as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:18 PM
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>If a doesn’t want to be mother Why proceed beyond conception? It is illogical and is the antithesis of objectively smart decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:09 PM
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>not describing the “chase”. This is a good point. Does that mean your definition is limited to just people toying with others? Or people chasing others for years? For a decade plus. Being persistent. Akin to The Notebook. Is that chasing? Or at the other end; striking up a casual conversation, then asking for a number. If that is not chasing, not pursuing another person with romantic interest; what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:07 PM
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>a human right Not quite. For me as a Christian, life begins at conception. However as a realist, I accept an individual should have the right to decide. Hence making objectively smart decisions. Furthermore, my faith allows me the grace to ‘love my neighbour’ regardless. It’s not my job to judge others, but to support them to make better decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:52 PM
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>focus so much on the behaviours of low quality women The primary reason is to establish an objective range. For instance who is the lowest quality woman you have ever had relations with? Who is the highest? Can we compare an altruistic, empathetic heiress, to a prostitute in Thailand? What do they have in common? What are the differences? Establishing that range as objectively as possible means we can then build a far more accurate worldview. Between what works meeting a woman on a beach Thaila…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:53 AM

>all men It however benefits a woman to accept that all men pose that potential risk. The same premise applies for men accepting that all women pose the same potential risk of making a false allegation. It is a pragmatic mindset regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:53 AM
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>Why My primary focus is preventing children from being brought into the world in less than ideal circumstances. By empowering women to make better decisions. Which brings us again to decisions; if a man does not want to be a father, is an objectively smart decision to continue from conception to childbirth and make that man a father? For reasonable folk, the answer is straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:38 AM
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>it’s more moral to keep the kid As a Christian I do too. Our shared morality however does not make that decision objectively smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:27 AM
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My friend, preventing kids from potentially being born into a suboptimal dynamics contributes towards addresses the need for foster placements. Significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:45 AM
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>Biological abortion is not the same thing as abandoning your kid. Agreed. If say one has the choice to proceed to childbirth with the intent to abandon that child once born or; Plan B? Which is the objectively smarter choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:49 PM
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Yes. The reason being there is a critical point post conception, where a woman solely decides to proceed to childbirth. Or not. For instance conception occurs. A man does not want the child. Or is reluctant. Is it a smart decision to proceed making that man a father?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:21 PM
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>Two people are consenting to the possibility Not if both parties are in agreement that childbirth is not an option. Then proceed to take all reasonable precaution. Which is the most common agreement if not norm prior to entering into a typical casual arrangement, hookup or one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:08 PM
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>Why should I care? You should only care if you are an active, contributing member to your community and society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:41 PM
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>paper abortions are ridiculous The issue is post conception, only the woman is solely responsible for the decision to see conception through to childbirth. Which is fine. She possesses the right to her bodily autonomy post conception. The man however does not. For instance rape is bad. If a man is raped, presumably most would agree he should not be held accountable for any decision a woman makes post conception. Continuing to childbirth. Or not. Most would agree her bodily autonomy should not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:23 PM
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>your genes are out there in the wild and to be a biological success This is anecdotal but I’ve volunteered in a few programs that help support youth homelessness. A significant amount of that cohort comes from the foster system/adoption breakdown cycle. It is truly heartbreaking for those kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:03 PM

>I don’t see any problems I don’t either. Once a month my wife flies to her bestie’s farm and bunch of them ride horses all weekend. God knows what they get up to but the kids and I set up mattress forts and have ‘sleepovers’ downstairs. Eat pop corn and all sorts of wicked treats whilst watching movies. Makes the highest reel for my memories every time which is a win-win in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:54 AM

Apologies my guy, I was making a joke. In poor taste. I didn’t mean to offend. Again, my apologies. As to your question, I think virginity and purity can be viewed two ways; objectively and subjectively. The first clear cut. The second? Open to translation. Hence my joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:43 AM
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>I feel like I am a moron if I have to chase I’m the other way inclined; I love the ‘chase’. As an extrovert I love meeting people. Just the interaction is a source of joy, thrill and excitement. Even if the outcome is not, I can focus on and be grateful for the fact that we had a pleasant exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:34 AM

I agree. Wife and I do a lot of shopping together. Mostly during school hours. Which is her browsing her favourite shops, and me sitting at a pub or café watching The NBA finals. We then meet for lunch and drinks, school run then extra curricular’s. Usually squeeze in a day time ‘cuddle’ too which is nice. Love day dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:30 AM

Born again virgin. As of today. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:25 AM
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>Sorry to the people Genuine question; why should society feel sorry for those people who choose poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:23 AM
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>it has never been a healthy way to look at sex Agreed. Ultimately, sex is only one facet of a full and healthy life. It can be a positive part, but objectively there are also individuals that live a full and healthy life forgoing their basest of desires. Now most do not need to adopt such an extreme mindset, but keeping the importance of sex in appropriate perspective is a beneficial worldview to adopt. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:15 AM

>Having children reduces women’s opportunities Until the opportunity to have children is reduced to zero. It is imperative that women have the freedom to choose. If however they choose poorly, they are responsible for that choice. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:09 AM
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>catholic As a Christian this is my belief. I also support the right to choose, because my faith also allows me the capacity to ‘love my neighbour’ regardless of the decisions they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:59 PM
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It’s a pivotal factor to both dating and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:54 PM

>preferences should be allowed Preferences are allowed, but only in context to choice. Objectively limited choice equals limited capacity for preference. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:48 PM
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>ask their sex partners to do acts I agree with the is take. The OP is framed poorly because the comparison is asking about a woman’s sexual history, as opposed to focusing on the comparison between current sexual acts against potential future ones with their current partner. Two individuals meet. They have never had sex together previously. Once intimate, the most accurate comparison for a sexual act is between the sexual experiences they have shared, and potential future ones. Primarily becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:37 PM
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>penalizes Genuine question; why frame it as a penalty? Objectively if any individual cannot contribute or can only contribute in a limited capacity; should their compensation not reflect their reality? For instance where I live we get roughly 26 weeks maternity leave and 52 weeks of job protection leave. So for my bestie who’s a c suite exec one of his biggest expenses is not only covering some of that maternity leave without the production, but still having to produce at a similar level of out…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:11 PM
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>she gets these high quality genes for her offspring and that’s it. Whilst having money is beneficial, the key issue is what is best for the child. Which, purportedly, is being raised in a two parent household. That is not to deride single parents. However there is a reason why having both a mother and father is the optimal family dynamic. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:54 AM
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>drives so much of the pain men go through Genuine question; objectively, who is solely responsible for acknowledging, processing and ultimately addressing one’s emotional needs? I understand the importance of a sense of belonging. Of support. The onus however is still primarily on the individual. To first recognise and acknowledge their own emotions and emotional responses. Then take the necessary steps to address the factors they can, and accept the reality of those they have no power over. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:43 AM

Happy Anniversary!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:53 PM

Best wishes with it my guy! Hope they help!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:52 PM

Man. Patience of a saint. Happy for those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:51 PM
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First, if you’re not comfortable answering please don’t. Genuine question; what level of education did you acquire to fill your niche? Bachelor’s? Masters? Doctorate? I ask because my wife has a background in psychology, and is considering a new thesis surrounding trauma. Which I find absolutely fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:45 PM
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>using said knowledge to your advantage……or not. This a great take that I agree with. Ultimately, TRP is simply sexual strategy. Can one use it be malicious, deceitful and disingenuous? Certainly. Conversely can one use it to be genuine, honest and positive? That’s possible too. The difference just like using any other strategy is how a person employs it. TRP, just like a hammer can build or destroy. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:36 PM
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>emotional vulnerability Genuine question; what is more attractive; emotional vulnerability, or emotional resilience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:01 PM
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>there’s also a lot of beauty and enjoyment in bonding Personally, the thing I enjoy most about being married is the growth. Which often requires challenges. Not to deride the beauty and pure fulfilment a relationship can contribute, but it takes work. Often too, painful, humbling and truly honest, self reflection to really ‘plumb the depths’ of one’s relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:16 PM
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>men could use some more self esteem The key is self esteem, for men, should be derived primarily from the confidence in their own ability. For instance if one is physically strong. Emotionally. Fiscally and socially. Being adept in these facets contributes significantly to one’s sense of self efficacy. Without the delusions of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:10 PM
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>a man being confident and approaching a woman means he is a bad option or must be an asshole. Especially if a man just genuinely likes people. As an extrovert I love meeting random people. Old guys. Moms with kids(love kids). Anyone. It wasn’t until after I found TRP that I missed a ton of signs women were reciprocating my interest. To some things I am absolutely oblivious hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:41 PM
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A. Sex, plus none of the negatives of a relationship? Non contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:00 PM
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>it’s the language Agreed. The exact words were “if you dress like a piece of meat people will see you as a piece of meat.” Additionally, we both took the time to clearly communicate with each other about the topic. So it was actually a very constructive conversation. Now, has she made changes I approve? Definitely. Would I want to hold herself to my standards? There’s room for improvement. The issue is my directness in language. Could I have used more empathetic language? Possibly. I however co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:44 PM

Hehe! No it’s actually the other way around. I stopped working a few years ago because I wanted to be a stay at home dad. Except I’m a workaholic. I’ve always volunteered, so I just filled up my schedule with volunteering instead. Also have a ton of hobbies, but neither are quite as challenging as actual work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:13 PM
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>I don’t make them feel bad for going to the grocery store in a pair of shorts or leggings. This is a good point. Okay. Let’s see if we can find some common ground. To establish where we agree. What standard of dress is reasonable in public, in general? For instance straight up nudity. If a daughter wanted to go grocery shopping in the nude, it would be reasonable for a parent to say something about. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:01 PM
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>every time Every time. Primarily because everyone regardless of what they are wearing are subject to public perception. For instance if a woman wears shorts so small everyone can see what she had for breakfast? That fact leaves an impression. She may be a marine biologist, and have a great physique. She also either intentionally or unintentionally decided to wear those shorts. As opposed to jeans. Or sweats. Or more reasonable clothing. That does not parade her physique around, like a piece of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:37 PM

Young boys with disabilities. Youth homelessness. Also a workshop program for retired guys(I’m technically not allowed to join but I wiggled my way in as a visitor’ to help out). Also a Christian community charity attached to my church. I’ve been doing a bread and veggie run where we pick up unsold baked goods from bakeries and veggies from grocers and drop it off to needy families. Been doing that run with my mother since my early teens. So coming up on 20 years. Also will probably do a little …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:50 PM

>Helping others Love this one. It’s why I’ve volunteered since my early teens. One of my proudest possessions is a little glass award I was gifted recognising 10 years of volunteering from one of my charities. Love that little thing because of all the wonderful memories it brings. One of my favourite quotes by Churchill; “We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give”. Is too true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:11 PM
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>Your wife changing her name strips her away from all her family identity and connection. This is a good point. If my wife’s sense of identity and connection is stripped away by her taking my surname, then how secure was she in that identity or with that connection in the first place? In my more traditional culture, marriage as an institution is considered a union of two families. A daughter may lose her surname, but alongside all the previous connections and sense of identity she retains with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:10 PM
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>class-based The biggest social advantage marriage brings is a communal identity that by default, all family members belong to. Especially when we all share the commonality of a surname. For instance we are all known as The Rippers. As are all my brothers. Uncles. Cousins. So when others meet me, they ask are you related to ‘such and such’ Ripper? Which having a massive family I almost always am. Which is not only a bonus level of vetting. Now, that’s not to say a couple cannot both legally just…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:12 AM

CROSSPOST from a Relationship Advice Sub I [20F] havent told my new BF [20F] that I had a threesome with my best friend [20f] and her bf [24M] before we started dating. We are now a tight group of friends - how do it bring it up? I broke up with my ex boyfriend several months ago after being with him for literally years. I let my hair down a bit for a couple of months after that after having been in a relationship for so long. During that time I was hanging round with my friend and her bf at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:12 AM
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Defyne gym shorts. Which she still wears. To the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:33 AM
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>describing your daughter as dressing like a piece of meat Not quite. I told her directly, to her face; “if you dress like a piece of meat, people will see you as a piece of meat”. Exact words. Not from a place of hatred. Not out of spite. Or jealousy. The primary reason was to highlight to her that her decisions have consequences. Even when she is unintentional in making them. That said let’s assume your point of view; a father should let their child wear whatever they like out in public, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:06 AM
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My friend if you could elaborate your point it might have credibility. Which I am open to hearing because it is entertaining. Unfortunately saying something is hatred without rationalising why? Is, certainly, a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:52 AM
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>hate women My friend, if your retort is to imply I hate women perhaps re-reading the comment might help you better understand my point of view. Or if you need simplified; it was not the outfit I was critical of; it was the habit of her decision making in context to how she presents herself on a daily or consistent basis. That I want her to be intentional in her habits. That, is not the hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:47 AM
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>call me a piece of meat First, the difference between calling anyone a name and stating that they look like that thing is the focus is not on the insult, but on the choice to appear like that thing. For instance your father may not have cared about your appearance enough to talk to you about it. Or did care, but cared more about you exercising your autonomy. So said nothing. Which is fine. You have the agency to appear in public as you wish. As does my eldest. The point is I want my daughter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:30 AM

>always driven by maintaining polarity Habit. In general we as humans do not rise to the level of our aspirations, we fall to the level of our habits. So if one is pessimistic, anxious and fearful? That will permeate through. Just as much as being disciplined, ambitious and optimistic will too. Additionally, purportedly the two biggest factors that contribute to relationship breakdown are finances and sex. Both best addressed by strong communication skills from both parties. Polarity it could be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:00 AM

>as long as you ignore the bad stuff First, I agree the negatives of TRP may not contribute to either an individual’s outcomes nor The Manosphere as a whole. Acknowledging the positives however does not mean one must agree with all of TRP’s negatives. One can entertain the idea of two extremes if they so choose to. TRP even encourages its subscribers to take what is useful, and discard the rest. Furthermore, TRP is simply sexual strategy. The operative word being strategy. Or tool. If an individ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:15 AM

>the same arguments they were 15 years ago and even earlier The primary reason is because the core tenets of TRP are timeless. The onus is on an individual to take control of their own outcomes. Objectively, if an individual becomes physically, emotionally and financially strong? They are going to increase their options. Add to that grooming and honing social skills? One is only going to benefit. That is all TRP is. Yes, there is The Anger Phase. Misogyny. These factors however do not negate the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:38 AM
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>being visible to men is advertising Objectively, first impressions matter. For instance my eldest loves Defyne. She plays rugby and weight trains three days a week too on top of that. So I have no issue with that attire in the gym. Outside of the gym? Going for ice cream? Or just shopping? I tell her to be more discerning. Primarily because if she dresses like a piece of meat, that is the impression she is consciously choosing to give other people. Not just men, but everyone. She’s better at it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:26 AM
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>we’re talking about discrimination Agreed. Which is why the example is a poor one. For instance if you used how DEI can both help and hinder profitability as an example? It would be pertinent. Going directly to the highest office in the land as an example for discrimination? Is of little value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:04 PM
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>not a single one of them Extending the privilege a minuscule, exclusive subset of people possess within a larger group is a poor example. It is similar to saying attractive women regularly experience The Halo Effect, thus by the same logic all women share that same privilege. Conversely it is far more beneficial, and realistic to acknowledge there is a disparity in privilege. That some men do possess an uneven level of privilege, that the vast majority of men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:39 PM

>no matter if she goes clubbing or hiking I agree with this, and made a post about it a while back. For instance my wife holidays regularly at her best friend’s farm to ride horses. She usually flies out Fridays and is back Mondays. I trust her implicitly. If she cheats? I do not know, nor am I affected by information I do not have. If she remains faithful? I’m good too. TRP’s advice is to trust but verify. I’ve honed that advice to prepare to trust. Which simply means acknowledging and acceptin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:11 PM
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>True confidence The pivotal factor is it takes significant self awareness, self confidence and ultimately sense of self belief to even approach in the first place. So an individual who is approaching consistently already possesses a decent level of self respect. It’s retaining that self respect regardless of outcome that is the key.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:15 AM

>take things online personally? I’ve put in a ton of work to check my emotions ‘at the door’ both in reality, and online. Ultimately, I don’t know anyone else’s full story. Not my wife’s. Not my kids. For instance I don’t see who my wife is when she’s riding horses at her best friend’s farm. Or my kids when they’re at school. Or hanging out with their friends after school. So whilst I have a decent idea, I am always quick to default my perspective to objectivity. As it not only takes out the emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:00 PM
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>used to a solitude Agreed. I’ve had two significant periods where I went without sex. The first when I was training hard to get selected into a rugby team. So it was school, work and rugby. That lasted roughly a year. Second was just after my first divorce. Took sometime to get counselling, and realign my mentality. Probably around the same timeframe. Sex is wonderful but I’m confident if forced I’d adapt to being alone. Plus think of all the free time. Currently with two little kids and an alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:53 PM
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>put in the work I agree with this. Primarily, physical health. Nutrition is huge. Hydration. Sleep. In context to training my two main maxims are strength and VO2 max output. When I’m not running a specific program I run a simple 3 day bro split. Superset everything so it’s a decently HIIT regime. My default sessions are now under 45 minutes, so I’m done before breakfast because I train at 5am every morning. These factors are not gendered too. I’d encourage everyone to really hone their trainin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:42 PM

Too true. Perspective does change. I always find it reaffirming to lean upon tried and tested strategies such as re-reading well loved books, to stay grounded. It always helps me realign my worldview anew. Which is always a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:28 PM
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>I don’t have to be fair to you if you are not fair to me. So according to you; reciprocating fairness is contingent on the fairness you receive? As a Christian I view it the other way; my primary job is to love my neighbour. If someone is unfair to me, that fact does not mean I should lower myself to their level. In fact, it is far more beneficial for both of us if I do not lower myself. Primarily because not only am I treating another person fairly, I am holding myself to a higher standard in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:25 PM
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The beautiful thing about books is they never change, whilst we do. Just starting a re-read of Magician by Feist. Which I haven’t read since high school. I was instantly transported not just back into the story, but also all my fond memories of reading it as a young teen. It’s such a beautiful feeling. I think there will always be a place for books. That said I’ve re-read Fahrenheit 451 recently too. So I try to keep my optimism tempered hehehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:47 PM
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>sex is no better This was it for me. I learned pretty early on that after enough random hookups, they all start to blur in meaninglessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:43 PM
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Happy Holidays!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:41 PM
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Only when a couple are ill prepared.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:38 PM

Men are not “born” attractive, they have to build their attraction. This, I think is both the biggest challenge and a blessing for a man. To build something of ‘value’ takes work. For instance building a strong physique. Or amassing a fortune. What one gains beyond the objective value is a broadening of their perspective, and a better understanding and appreciation for that value. If one is given a million dollars? They may not truly understand nor appreciate the objective value of that gift. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:07 PM
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kids ruin relationships That are poorly structured. It is why necessities aside the hierarchy of priorities in a solid family dynamic is this; A healthy, hale and whole individual on their own. Two individuals; healthy, hale and whole together as a couple. Finally; two individuals and their children healthy, hale and whole together as a family. Any issue in a fundamental tier of the hierarchy directly affects every subsequent tier. This is the optimal framing towards building the healthiest fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:36 AM

The Count of Monte Cristo. Timeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:23 AM
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>state of the economy Whilst I agree that the current situation is unsustainable, the primary reason is instability. Which is only ever followed by change. Now that change can be rapid and dramatic, or as I am leaning towards slow and gradual. Those in power don’t live forever. Change happens to all of us, and birthrates are a lagging indicator. I’m hopeful. Information is widely accessible. As is the ability to hone one’s critical thinking. Those two factors alone if encouraged in future genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:17 AM

>problems before you are married No relationship is perfect. If anything, at any stage of a relationship problems that aren’t dealbreakers are opportunities. For the relationship to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:11 PM
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‘It’s the age of Aquarius…’
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:05 PM
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Sorry to hear my guy. Hope you get it sorted soon. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:38 PM
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> I say soul mate And I say whole mate. Just kidding. No one’s perfect, but someone that aims up everyday like I do is someone I can work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:43 AM

>treat romantic love as a luxury Romantic love is a luxury because regardless of duration or reason, all relationships end. Understanding and accepting this fact prior to even entering a relationship, means one does not mistake; >the things you took for granted as a child Primarily because one accepts the finite reality of relationships. So by default, one views the importance of relationships in a far more realistic perspective. Which does not downplay the importance of a romantic relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:07 AM
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>You might heal physical and psychological wounds Agreed. The question then is to what extent? For instance could one use their traumatic experiences to become better? Elizabeth Smart. Malala Yousefzai. Objectively, they would not possess their platforms without the trauma they endured. When googled, the term ‘victim’ does not appear first. The word ‘activist’ does. Which label do they identify more with? Additionally, which label is more beneficial for any victim to adopt moving forward? If hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:26 PM
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>victim blaming Genuine question; at what point is a victim no longer a victim? Blame aside, identifying as a victim means one has been injured in some way. Thus, remedying that injury would then remove the need to identify as a victim. Accountability being fundamental to this process. This unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:12 AM

>feel the euphoria Being complimented for having nice arms and a nice butt is a pretty heady feeling. Maybe not euphoric, but I’d take it every day of the week over the routine my wife undertakes daily. Not to mention the cost. Coincidentally I just watched Freya India on The Modern Wisdom Podcast talking about the crisis of young women. How the commodification of women has become a domain for corporations. Very interesting stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:42 AM

Oh my that is hilarious hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:33 AM
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>Men need a purpose. If it’s not a family then what is it? Simple; *the process is the purpose*. The most efficient way to derive purpose is to *define* it. For instance I define my purpose and the fulfilment I derive from it between two extremes; my experience in objective reality, and how I experience an event subjectively/spirituality/internally. Thus **every single life experience** falls on the scale. From there, I can better my perspective on my life experience. For instance fixing my brok…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:07 AM
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>Debating online doesn’t help Maybe not, but it helps me somewhat sate my argumentative streak so I don’t debate everything my wife says. So that’s a plus hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:57 AM
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>redpill has answers. TRP however is not the only way to acquire these answers. For instance I grew up around rugby. From an early age, I saw what life was like for a jacked, semi pro athlete. So acquired the same outcomes for myself. TRP is a great font of knowledge. It however is not literally the only alternative. Join any group of people, and you’ll see *a hierarchy*. Join *enough* groups or societies? You’ll see enough to draw fairly accurate conclusions. Without even touching your phone sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:53 AM
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>My goal is to find my soul mate. First, if your soul mate is *not* a woman? TRP will be of little benefit. Conversely, if your desired soul mate *is* a woman? Is it more beneficial to be attractive to as many women as possible? Or less? Objectively, dating whether it’s for casual sex or a soulmate *is* a number’s game. Which is core to TRP. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:46 AM

>you would still be a virgin since your dick never made contact with the vagina. Regardless of how much sex I have had I go the other way; I just *identify as* a born-again virgin. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:20 AM
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>a guru? a teacher who inspires I’ve got a ton. When younger though it was an eldest cousin specifically. He was very successful. Rhode’s Scholar. Built his own firm from the ground up. It wasn’t really until I stopped working that I realised it’s all well and good to pull 80+ hour weeks, if you don’t care about anything else. I love him for that but I think the best kinds of guru’s and teachers are the ones who show you *their* way, but allow you the freedom to make your own. My cousin viewed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:08 PM

Absolute banger if of a jam!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:49 AM

>pretending to go to the washroom and instead pay the full bill This is the same in my culture. We often have parties/dinners almost every second week(big family). So whoever’s child is having the gathering is either cooking for everyone or hosting(and paying) for everything at a restaurant. It’s good though cause we all get to spend a ton of time together regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:47 AM

>to avoid the reality of a woman’s disinterest Without *force*, how can any man avoid *reality?* Common sense dictates that regardless of their internal dialogue or ego, most normal men cannot and do not avoid the fact a woman has rejected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:40 AM
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this place is depressing For some. For others? Best entertainment money can buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:29 PM

a sneak diss First, I apologise if you think it was a diss. I meant no disrespect. If you want to continue, I’d love to better understand your point of view*, primarily because it is the direct opposite of mine. For instance as optimist I view all scenarios as having positives; even if the only positive is surviving. As that means there is Hope. Now, if Nihilism is the way to unlock being right, that means I cannot view all the bad shit that happens to me with Hope. Hence why I am interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:00 PM

Your comment Is taking on your point of view. let’s say I agree. Nihilism is the only method to unlock an accurate worldview. nihilism unlocks the ability to be right That, is your point of view which you are critical of. As am I.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:49 PM
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Hola!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:07 PM
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So, you think your own point of view is mumbo jumbo?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:02 PM
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Why should we as a species in any way consider the social structure of animals Here’s a question; how can we as a species fully understand ourselves if we do not consider not only the social structures of the animals that preceded us, but our history in totality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:55 PM
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will be subject to cope and various other forms of delusion. Okay. Let’s say I agree. Nihilism is the only method to unlock an accurate worldview. Say one continuously fails at dating. To view these outcomes realistically, they can only view these outcomes nihilistically. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:22 PM
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nihilism unlocks the ability to be right Nihilism does not unlock the ability to be right. It is a viewpoint. Objectivity is the viewpoint that unlocks accuracy. At least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:33 PM
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how pathetic On a scale of 1-10 it is not even a 1 my friend. The last concert I took my wife to I paid 2k per ticket for VVIP entry. All you can eat. All you can drink. I’m a teetotaller. You’re fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:31 PM
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your own daughter Yeah that’s crazy work. My eldest just got her license. So proud of her. I could never think like that. Absolutely atrocious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:06 AM
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<image> Shots..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:34 AM
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Books I second this. Wheel of Time. Mistborn. Game of Thrones to a lesser extent. All have strong female characters well written.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:53 AM
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I consider men who cheat high value Unfortunately, dozens if not hundreds of women do not share your viewpoint. Which is the key difference between subjectivity and objectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:51 AM
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What system Instead of looking forward; look back. Objectively our closest genetic relations still practice Polygamy. There’s purportedly a ‘civil war’ involving 200 animals going on in that species right now. When we were in caves, if a tribe had enough dominant males to overcome other tribes? They thrived. Even when we became ‘civilised’ and enforced monogamy. One king started his own church because his pope forbade him from marrying another woman. A Khan reportedly has spread his genes into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:37 AM
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subjectivity of value There is an objective difference. Between the dating and relationships outcomes of a prisoner, and an NBA player. So we can subjectively compare the two scenarios as we have done, and see where the merit lies objectively. For instance is the subjective value of a prisoner receiving fan mail the same or similar to an NBA cheating on his girlfriend? Presumably an argument can be made that it is. Are their outcomes objectively the same or similar? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:08 AM
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human connection is much more nuanced. Agreed. Objectively however there is both a starting point, and an end point that encompasses all nuance? For instance before one meets their future partner, they are objectively strangers. Conversely regardless of duration, depth or every other single variable or nuance, every single relationship ends. Thus, in context to dating and relationships one can objectively view every kind of nuance between these two objective parameters. For instance two stranger…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:52 AM
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The key difference is this; Prisoners Are subject to enforcement. Conversely Klay is only subject to his own conscience. Besides that limitation he has a myriad of choice. To most, an objectively valuable distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:41 AM
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one foot in one foot out If they are in, they are subject to The SMP objectively determining their value. Regardless of where their other foot is. For instance if an individual values their peace, and puts more effort into retaining that than acquiring a partner? The SMP will let that individual know what type of partner is willing to tolerate that type of behaviour. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:35 AM
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You have a lot of feelings about the value of other people My friend, my feelings do not change objective reality. Objectively if one country wants to destroy a minority group and has the power to do so? Or an NBA star wants to cheat? My feelings or the feelings of anyone else has little bearing on either of these facts. Now morally, ethically and spiritually I can view the above scenarios as wrong. My viewpoint however is of little help to that persecuted minority. Or the women who decide to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:28 AM
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which lives you personally feel to have value and which lives do not. Acknowledging objective reality is the exact opposite of holding a personal viewpoint. Second, as a Christian all life to me is sacred. Irrespective of objective value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:08 PM
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you want your value determined externally that’s your prerogative. The primary reason this is inaccurate is because objectively for every single human; from birth their value by default is defined in context to their direct external environment first. For instance if a human has little to no value; say a child in a born in Gaza, or a Rohingya Muslim in Burma. Their ‘value’ is entirely dependent upon the external circumstances they are born into. This viewpoint is objective reality. Now, we as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:24 AM
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Sorry my guy, both those references are over my head. The Warriors dynasty that I was referring to was The Golden State Warriors in The NBA. That Klay was a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:08 AM
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WAP song Love that song. Didn’t know she sung it. Yeah The NBA isn’t that big globally, so I can understand how an entertainer would be far more famous than Klay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:35 AM
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Men who cheat aren’t “high value”. Whilst I agree value can both be subjective and objective. I, like you and most normal folk view it as reasonable to assign a level of morality to one’s choices. Yet that doesn’t change the fact that objectively, Klay could have a dozen women sliding into his DM’s tonight if he so chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:31 AM
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I’m the other way around; everyone knows The Warriors Dynasty. I was confusing Megan with Nicki Minaj.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:27 AM
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Hilarious pivot hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:25 AM
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calling Klay high value Broaden your perspective beyond this sub; is Klay only known as The Stallion Tamer? Or for other endeavours? Even more objectively; if he was just tall, decently fit, rich, and still a guy who sleeps around? How much action is he getting? Objective value is determined externally. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:19 AM
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have an understanding This. It’s why discretion is a premium. Especially in this digital age. Everyone is making content, except for those who don’t need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:37 AM
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the ‘no man’ option. The premise excludes anyone who consciously chooses not to participate in The Sexual Marketplace. If someone chooses pets over partners? More power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:09 AM
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crazy line to Headline with too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:20 AM
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good at lying That’s a good point. That means at least three of these women including OP’s mom probably aren’t good at picking up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:21 AM
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That’s true. This man is soon to have five kids. With at least three different women. The decision making from the women? To procreate with such a man? Certainly questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:13 AM
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CROSSPOST FROM AN AM I AN ASSHOLE SUB AITAH for telling my dad's pregnant girlfriend that he already has three kids I have nothing to do with and her baby will be no different? I (17M) grew up with my mom. I only ever saw my dad one day a month and that has not changed after all this time. My mom and I tried to end that visitation but the judge said since dad never skipped a day it made sense to continue until my 18th birthday, which is in October. My dad has dated a few women over the years and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:50 AM

No. This is entirely anecdotal but as a perfectionist, tying any process solely to an outcome can be detrimental. In that the outcome can outweigh the value derived from the process. For instance weightlifting just to get some. Conversely focusing on embracing the process, whilst accepting the outcome may or may not be a direct result of it? Is far more beneficial. As one derives value from the process regardless of the outcome. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:36 PM
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the cost of understanding what’s actually out there First, men should discern for themselves, what they should and should not do. Want to play the field? Focus on becoming attractive enough to have options. Want to get married young? Better become attractive enough and hone solid vetting skills. There’s benefits to playing the field. Confirming one’s desirability. New experiences. Freedom of choice. Just as there are benefits to long term monogamy. The key is become attractive enough to have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:27 PM
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single Regardless if one is happy single, if their desired outcome is a relationship? In this context, being single is by default choosing to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:08 PM
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never take that advice My point is not gendered. It is equally applicable. Which is what makes objectivity so valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:58 PM
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Who rates value? Objectively? The Sexual Marketplace does. For instance if a woman rates herself highly? Yet her sexual history is littered with casual encounters and situationships? Sure her subjective viewpoint is a factor, but so too are her objective outcomes thus far. Exactly the same if she’s been married to one guy for the last decade. Ultimately in dating and relationships, subjective self determination of value can only be established in context to objective reality first. It is that si…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:50 PM
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you, objectively, don’t get to determine my worth Agreed. The SMP does. If one’s standards preclude them from attaining their desired outcome? Their only choice is to either realign their standards to their reality, or choose loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:03 PM
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objective The primary reason I contextualise almost all my posts with objectivity, is because it then aligns one’s worldview as close as possible to reality. the only person who can determine someone’s worth is themselves. Okay. Let’s say I agree. One self determines that their objective net worth is 6 million dollars. Or that one is 6’2. Does that self determination accurately align with reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:39 PM
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Dudes can wear whatever they want. Whilst true, appearance is fundamental. Makeup for men though, to me, is a little too superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:35 PM
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who gets to determine someone’s worth? There’s two ends of the scale; objective value in content to one’s external environment, and one’s subjective value driven by one’s internal dialogue. For instance one can be objectively poor, yet internally derive a great deal of appreciation and fulfilment from the little they have. Or be objectively successful and attractive, yet allow their internal dialogue to sow doubt, anxiety and fear. Almost all humans form their worldviews between these two extrem…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:07 PM
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clavicular and his friends are all on livestreams giving men tutorials on how to put on makeup Man, I feel sorry for these guys. Imagine being so insecure they resort to using makeup. Mastering self acceptance is much more beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:47 PM

if she was a woman In context to gender presentation how critical is biological sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:59 PM

deconstruct her idea of gender norms Genuine question; why? For instance when she met her husband, the way he presented was the norm. Which means if she’s was attracted to him under that pretence, his choices currently should then warrant her changing? Especially in context to attraction? An individual presents as a woman. Down the line she ‘reveals’ herself to be a man. Does her husband then have to deconstruct his idea of gender norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:33 PM

CROSSPOST FROM A TRUE OFF MY CHEST SUB I'm having a hard time being attracted to my husband When I met my husband he was a masc male, assigned male at birth, and dressed as such. He dressed this way our entire dating relationship. Gradually he grew his hair out. It didn't concern me. We got married a year and a half into our relationship. Since then he's been a different person. He started wearing feminine clothes. He says they're neutral. They're not. They're very feminine. Think blouses and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:43 PM
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it’s HOW you ask I second this. TRP calls it Plausible Deniability. e.g. ”He just asked if I wanted to come over and see his Pokémon Card Collection. Next minute, I’m upside down on his kitchen counter with Banana everywhere..” Most women prefer covert communication. As it doesn’t put them on the spot. It is possible to be discreetly direct, which is a beneficial skill to hone in any social setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:42 PM

Love does not exist I view love on a scale. The heights being an emotional and physical connection that has no equal. The other extreme? Apathy. From the viewpoint I can better regulate my emotions, and better understand those of my partners. Nothing in life stays the same. Being adaptable, and moving with the ebbs and flows of life is the best way to flourish. Especially in context to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:55 PM

CROSSPOST FROM A TWO HOT TAKES SUB I (29F) chose a stable marriage over my “bad boy” ex (31M), but I still think about him sometimes-why? I (29F) am married to my husband (32M). We’ve been together for 4 years, married for 2. Before him, I was in an on-and-off relationship for 6 years with my ex (31M). My ex was my first everything. That kind of connection doesn’t fully disappear, even years later. He’s also a very specific type motorcycle, tattoos, cigarettes, alcohol, emotionally intense, a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:51 PM
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opinion on the friend zone Love it. I consider everyone I meet an acquaintance first, a friend next, and something more tangible when applicable. The primary reason being is when meeting new women I lead with flirting. So if they rebuff my advances, they automatically go into the acquaintance bucket. Simple and effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:29 PM
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All anecdotes only need other anecdotes to be immediately disproven. This is why it’s far better to rely on Objectivity. For instance is sex fundamental to all relationships? Objectively? The answer is straightforward. Or is sex fundamental to most relationships? Again, objectively the answer is simple. That is not to deride fantasy. Or romance. The most holistic approach however involves balance. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:50 AM
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might not work exactly the same The primary reason this is false is simplified down, the key to retaining a healthy worldview is maintaining sufficient Perspective. This fact is not gendered and is exactly the same for all humans. Those naturally inclined. Those anxious or fearful. Objectivity coupled with a broad enough perspective? Allows one’s worldview the scope to better accept their own circumstances in context to the ‘bigger’ picture. The only difference in acquiring sufficient perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:22 PM
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thought you had some more information Sorry not as yet, but always open to learning. It is fascinating that we have a certain gene that programs us to procreate outside our family. There’s interesting history like The Hapsburgs and to a lesser extent The Ashkenazi Jews that affected their subsequent generations. Additionally, the more we learn about genetics the more interesting our history becomes. Was listening to the Dr David Sinclair and David Friedberg episodes on The Modern Wisdom Podcast …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:42 AM
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As far as I know prehistoric people had no concept of monogamy and they didn’t understand how children happened I’m admit my ignorance upfront in that I know very little about our early ancestors. Additionally, how valid evolutionary psychology and biology theories are if untestable. That said objectively there must have been a level of organised collaboration between tribe/family members. Especially in context to procreation because overly inbreeding would kill off a tribe within a few generati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:20 AM

old childless woman Whilst I agree family comes in many forms, there is objectively a fundamental difference belonging to a big family of relations. For instance I have a decent sized family(4 siblings). We’re currently at 20 grandkids for my parents. Which means birthdays. Graduations. A billion basketball, netball and soccer games. A few rugby ones too(thankfully). Not to mention my extended family. In year if we didn’t holiday as often as we do, there’d be a party 40 off weekends out of the y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:15 AM

Great job baking that my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:05 AM

already in the more defensive position This is key. Personally my first step is to adopt the point of view I’m opposing. So my default position is always one of agreement. Couple that with Objectivity, and it’s fairly easy to discern the merit of most arguments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:04 AM
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doesn’t make it rage bait It makes little sense too. Objectively in a majority of endeavours, having more options is almost always more beneficial than having less options. As Heinlein so eloquently posits; ’specialization is for insects.’ It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:58 PM
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divorce lawyer They’ll also tell you this in six minute increments. Just kidding. Ultimately marriage on a pragmatic level isn’t an issue of love, it’s an issue of income. For instance my besties and I are all on our second marriages. The higher up the ladder one goes, the more common it is to have multiple marriages. Once an individual is sufficiently insulated, marriage is not overly onerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:58 AM
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relevant To you, are the circumstances under how half the ingredients were acquired relevant? Or not? It is an objectively simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:01 AM
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more specific Certainly. Objectively there are only two ends of the range of consent a man can give prior to engaging in sex. At one end; full and enthusiastic consent to sex and all it entails. For instance a married couple trying for a baby. The other extreme; no consent. For instance Rape. Every other circumstance occurs between these two extremes. Is this unreasonable? Primarily because the next step is to walk the reasoning back, to a point where you and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:53 AM
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gives up control Do you hold this view for both ends of the range of consent? For instance, a man enthusiastically and fully consents to leave his half of the ingredients in the oven. Or at the other extreme; half the ingredients were acquired without his consent. Is your answer the same for both these circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:48 AM
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Objectively, half the ingredients can only be acquired from a man with his full, enthusiastic consent; or none at all. Every single other circumstance falls between these two extremes. At either end, does a man have 50% control over the decision as to whether those ingredients get ‘fully baked’? Or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:10 AM
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supply half the ingredients By this logic then men have 50% control of the decision as to whether those ingredients get fully cooked, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:02 AM
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their behaviour could be encapsulated into simple rules like that. It can not only be simplified down to simple rules, it is pragmatic to do so. For instance one half of a sexually dimorphic species finds physical strength attractive. Social acumen. Or the ability to accumulate resources. For the opposite half of that species observing and acknowledging these trends, then strategically capitalising on them? Is not only beneficial, it’s efficient. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:35 AM

whether or not bear would pick them Got it. So become the bear. Just kidding. My wife says I’m hairy enough hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:15 PM

Sykkuno Okay, as a self identifying ‘normie’ I’ll bite; what is Sykkuno?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:12 PM

fake sport Interesting take. What, to you, is a ‘real’ sport?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:11 PM

Yeah I’m down to pull it apart. Both Vrabel and Russini putting their reputations on the line is crazy work. Poor ass Op Sec from both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:11 PM

I’m trying to convince my wife to have a weekend away next weekend so I can just watch The Draft and have a blast! Love Draft season!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:08 PM

not his responsibility to stay or leave As someone who’s dealt with this issue postpartum twice; the key factor is communication. For instance the cause is an either a small change or a significant one. Say a hormone imbalance. Dietary shift. Or childbirth. Understanding, acknowledging then addressing this fact improves every facet of sexual intimacy subsequent to it. Which takes patience, empathy and solid communication from both parties to effectively resolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:58 PM

paying for a date Damn. So my wife paying for our first few dates was her shooting her shot.. Just kidding. Women in your league won’t ask Nor would they have to. Hospitality in my culture is fundamental, so money is of little value compared to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:49 PM
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The advice targets patterns because patterns produce results. I agree with this. I grew up around a few pro and semi pro athletes. So from a young age, my ‘blueprint’ for finding success with women was straightforward. A blueprint that when I found TRP nearly a decade later confirmed was not only simple, but repeatable, scalable and widely applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:43 PM
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the redpill is actually amoral Objectively, a strategy being amoral does not preclude it from being used morally or immorally. Or even maliciously. For instance one can use TRP to try and justify misogyny. Or improve their outcomes. TRP is amoral. How one applies it? Is up to the individual. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:15 PM

Haha! I’m borrowing this for my kids. I used to refer to them as biracial angels, but my goto now is to be superior fried rice. When asked about it I’ll say to them you guys are like plain rice, but better; like superior fried rice..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:35 PM

you should always put your partner before yourself. Let’s test this theory; objectively if an individual is physically unhealthy; should they prioritise their partner’s health first? Or mentally unwell? How about emotionally? Or, let’s test the theory prior to partnering up. How effective can one be attracting a partner if they are unhealthy and do not prioritise any of the above, for themselves first? Conversely, how affective can a long term partner be, if they always put their partner before …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:02 AM
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Congrats to your nephew and your family! Many happy blessings for the newly official fiancés!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:33 AM
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why engage at all? Entertainment. I don’t do TV. Or social media outside of reddit. Here though the text element is right in my wheelhouse, so I enjoy engaging here purely because it entertains me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:32 AM
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his memorial Whilst I agree it’s not ideal that grief arguably hits differently when it’s a child one has lost. True tragedy. Hope they’re doing okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:30 AM
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Just get an accountant. I’m not even rich and it’s the best money I’ve ever spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:27 AM
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That was hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:25 AM
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My guy, don’t lower yourself by calling people names. It is beneath you. This was a mistake, but it is also an opportunity. Keep business about business. Don’t engage in office gossip, but if to have to keep it general and conciliatory. It’s also an opportunity for you to rebuild those networks with the peers you think you may have put offside by your comment. Anyone who’s successful knows how important relationships are. So rebuilding those you may have strained is not only beneficial, it’s a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:18 AM

CROSSPOST FROMA RELATIONSHIP ADVICE SUB Me 23M has just found out that my girlfriend 24M has had a threesome with two of her best friends 22M and 26M a month before we started dating Me and my girlfriend have been dating for little over a month, I really do love her as she has a lot of traumas but I've managed to help her get her life back on track. As the title says, a little backstory is that we were 5 people in a jacuzzi drinking wine at 2 am playing never have I ever and one of the friends […
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:13 PM
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putting your partner before yourself The primary flaw with this viewpoint is it creates an unhealthy dynamic. One must by default always prioritise themselves first. For instance objectively the hierarchy of needs in a relationship is this; First, a healthy, hale individual self sufficient whole on their own. Second, two individuals, healthy, hale and whole together as a couple. Finally, two individuals and their kids, healthy, hale and whole together as a family. Any damage in the chain creates…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:04 PM
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struggle with women None. Though we’re all on our second or third wives. My father has had multiple partners since divorcing my mother. So the ‘long’ in long term relationships is somewhat of a fluidly applicable term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:37 AM
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you don’t have That is a bold statement. It isn’t accurate, but it is entertaining if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:36 AM
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they can still not see a problem So, you are saying they are objectively ignorant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:31 PM
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family trauma is an exception Whether it’s family trauma or trauma in general is irrelevant to the fact good people do socialise with bad. By necessity. Or because they are objectively ignorant. Additionally, people change. Bad people included. So acknowledging this fact is far more beneficial than presuming that good people who socialise with bad are inherently bad too. Unless you prefer looking at the world through a narrow worldview, retaining as broad a perspective as possible is far more be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:22 PM
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family trauma Okay. Let’s say I agree; the exception is family trauma. This would mean that objectively if an entire family dynamic is bad, a good person cannot exist within that family. Correct? If not, again, the entire core of your post does not align with objective reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:11 PM
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rules or restrictions have to be enforced I agree with this. This is the foundation not only of society, but of civilisation itself. Thus is always a solid foundation to base one’s worldview on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:08 PM
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Guys are simply adapting to external stimuli Guys who are truly nonchalant are usually nonchalant from a young age. Arguably too are predisposed to it. For instance my father is the epitome of narcissism. Super intelligent. Super successful. So naturally some of that rubbed off. My wife often jokes that my supreme confidence comes from being told since birth that ‘the sun shines out of my arse’. That’s not to discount that men who are not confident and have to learn it. If they are doing so in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:01 PM
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more than just that sentence Your point is that with the exception of Trauma, good people do not hang around bad people. Correct? Which means objectively if an entire society is fundamentally bad, good people cannot exist in that society. Primarily because trauma aside, good people do not socialise with bad. Correct? If not, then the entire core of your post does not align with objective reality. Conversely, acknowledging that human behaviour exists on a scale that spans not only differing value…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:30 PM
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Ignorant as in unaware Objectively ignorant. For instance most people can recognise terrible behaviour. Thus the OP being applicable. The only exception being Trauma however? Objectively? Is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:24 PM
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makes you complicit Agreed. One however cannot be objectively complicit if they are objectively ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:03 PM
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if you are around obviously bad people, you are a bad person as well The primary flaw in this viewpoint is if an entire society is fundamentally bad. Objectively, the choices of the good in those societies are limited because of the society itself. A prime example found in the book I am Malala. The secondary flaw in this viewpoint is ignorance. Objectively an individual is either ignorant of, or responsible for addressing issues. One can be a good human, and still be utterly ignorant of the terr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:37 PM
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There will always be a small group of elite men. The Angela Merkels and Margaret Thatchers of the world didn’t sleep their way to the top. Additionally, monetising sex can be fiscally savvy. For instance Kim K will always be Ray J’s ex. This did not prevent her leveraging this infamy from scandal, into a billion dollar brand. Objectively, power goes to those capable first of attaining it. Then, ultimately retaining it. A fact that is not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:14 PM
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she does nothing It doesn’t. The post says she tries to support herself for two months, then; she realises she no longer wants to live like that. She makes a conscious decision of her own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:01 PM
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sci fi One key aspect is what type of human would artificial wombs produce? If fully functional, healthy humans are the outcome? Does the role of mother become obsolete? Or, is this simply the next step of our evolution as a species?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:53 PM
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the current legal basis for supporting abortion goes away This is a good point. Another factor is what happens to the pregnancy if both parties are split about proceeding to child birth. For instance dad wants the child, but mom doesn’t. What happens? Which also highlights the current inequality of in reproductive legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:48 PM
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why is it a woman’s responsibility to take a pay cut It isn’t. That is a choice all adults make. One, purportedly women are making in droves as per your own point about birth rates. Additionally, I’d even go one step further and say if you can’t afford kids, it is a fiscally poor decision to have them. That a woman who decides to take ‘a pay cut’ is making an objectively poor decision, if they cannot account for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:08 PM
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Men can’t have it both ways. Objectively, why is it an employer’s responsibility to facilitate an employee’s reproductive choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:56 PM
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pay gap exists If it did, my bestie who’s a c suite exec would be flocking to hire all the women. A group of people willingly taking less for the doing the exact same job? He’d love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:37 PM
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caring responsibilities How much should an employer subsidise an employee’s caring responsibilities? If that is the rationale wage gap enthusiasts use, then at what point is an employee a liability rather than an asset? For instance my bestie is a C suite exec. Guess what his most expensive outlay is? Human Resources. Specifically; maternity leave. Now it’s a great organisation, and his built a great culture there. Yet paid maternity leave is literally subsidising caring responsibilities. Do tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:31 PM
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there’s no logical reason to be against recognizing the pay gap between genders. Whenever this issue arises, my first question is always this; which organisation pays men more than women based solely on their sex? Objectively, if one group of people will do the exact same job for less money? Companies would be flocking to outsource their work to that group. Exclusively. If there was one company that legally pays women less than men because of their sex, there might be validity to the wage gap ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:18 PM
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Objectively your argument makes no sense Okay. I’ll simplify the premise for you; and you show us the flaw in the reasoning. A child from birth, bar their immediate surroundings is objectively ignorant of their physical environment beyond that. Let alone social context. For instance a newborn’s only frame of reference is food, sleep and the direct humans who interact with them. Is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:31 AM
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blame children Not at all. Objectively they are innocent in their ignorance. That fact changes however when they become sufficiently self aware, because regardless of agency the very first thing they will try to do is resolve the issue. Until then? Objectively? They suffer in their ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:56 PM
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My friend, I am not even in The United States. At least not currently hehe! That said I arguably out of most here try hard to understand the perspectives of others. For no other reason than the fact I enjoy challenging my own worldview. For instance if you can retort my point, let’s debate it. Let’s work out, together, where my worldview is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:49 PM
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what if The premise remains. For instance if a child is sufficiently aware of their victimization, they will use whatever agency they possess to resolve their issues. Older siblings shielding younger ones. Or running away and escaping. Objective solutions. Not ideal, but presumably the best they can attain with limited agency. Any individual that has sufficient awareness will seek to resolve their issues. The rest? Objectively? Suffer the consequences of their ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:39 PM
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Children are responsible for their own Ignorance. For instance regardless of age a child who is not ignorant of issues will seek to address it. Fairness for example. A child who is ignorant has no frame of reference. Children as soon as they’re aware of the concept of fairness, apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:10 PM
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Should we blame ‘all men’ because they were victims who made poor choices? Objectively all victims are responsible for either their ignorance, or their solutions. For instance children. Objectively ignorant. At the other end of the scale? Those who resolve their issues and move forward. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:42 PM
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we know there are hormones involved in the bonding process Okay. Let’s say I agree, that we are uncertain the hormones or any physiological factors of ‘love’ are ‘quantifiable’. For instance we could not run experiments to objectively measure brain activity of people in ‘love’ and against single people. That reasonable? irl relationships move Using objective reality to quantify the stages relationships ‘moves’ through is the prime example objectively quantifying or measuring a relationship. You’…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:23 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:50 AM

sudden urge More important than the sudden urge is to identify the core value driving it. Is it vanity? Strength? Practicality? A combination? For instance I got into strength training because I wanted to play rugby. What happened was I developed the habit. Which as I’ve matured has evolved with me. Urges are good, but fleeting. Build your habits around your values. They’ll last longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:49 AM
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internally contradictory and practically untenable. There’s nothing contradictory or untenable with a woman vetting well, being intimate early on and retaining a low body count. The common factor is time. For instance the time between Alex and Trevor she’s hopefully learned a thing or two. About herself and what she wants. How to get it. So by the time she’s met Trev, she’s far better informed in how to vet for and build a long term relationship. She cannot control Trev’s decision making. Yet if…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:38 AM
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My friend, the two examples I have used are objective. Unfortunately just replying with ‘no’ does little to change this fact. Though if you have a solid argument as to why my viewpoint is not how objective reality works? I am open to listening to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:28 AM

possibilities feel endless I’m the other way inclined. Love my kids. Would have more at the drop of a hat. My possibilities are immeasurable. Plus, I will most likely have a decently large family to share my future with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:31 PM

an addict and Jenna’s probably using That is a key detail. That impairment though does not absolve responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:28 PM

most useless looksmaxxing modality It is the most beneficial because in context to time, functional strength is fundamental to health. Thus subsequently appearance. Additionally, any cosmetic decisions beyond the reasonable is indicative of deeper seeded issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:20 PM
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how would you handle this situation Objectively there’s only two outcomes; first they work it out and he let’s it go. Or they do not, and they go their separate ways. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:07 PM
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primarily see women as sex objects This is a good point. For women who partake in sex work if they do not objectify their own sexuality; how do they earn money? Furthermore women who partake in casual sex; is it not primarily for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:01 AM

you have to become This, is the key principle that first confirmed just how practically applicable TRP was. Ultimately, an individual is solely responsible for their outcomes. This objective fact is daunting. It is also empowering. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 12:13 AM
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brakes It’s a theory espoused in the book Come as You Are by Emily Nagoski. In theory there are ‘brakes’ that inhibit sexual intimacy, and ‘accelerators’ that empower it. These may be different for ever couple, but the premise is to establish open and honest dialogue that is collaborative in establishing these ‘levers’ to build towards a healthier sex love and subsequent love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:55 PM
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extraordinary levels of sexual violence The primary reason sexual violence is a tool of war is because of the objective fact that might equals right. For instance if a man is bigger, stronger and better trained than a woman? His intentions nefarious? For most women? The objective outcome is likely detrimental. At the other end of the scale; a defence force is bigger, stronger and better trained. Every other nation must by default account for this fact. Sexual violence and violence in general is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:36 PM
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you REDUCE yourself to a body This, is the crux of the issue. Objectively whether it is casual sex or sex work, as soon as a woman chooses to partake in either? They are fundamentally separating who they are as a person, from who they are as a sexual being. For either pleasure or money. A choice that has consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:23 PM
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a lot of symptoms match The solution is to accurately diagnose the problem. For instance there’s only two causes; physiological or psychological. Physiologically, see a doctor to explain your symptoms, then go from there. Psychologically counselling is the most efficient way to gain objectivity. Get recommendations for quality therapists/counsellors. Talk to others who have had solid outcomes. Work out what worked for them managing their anxiety and internal dialogue. Which is fundamental. The k…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/26 08:31 PM
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I don’t know how First, you’ve got great self awareness. So you’ve already taken the first step. The second step is to start with the end. What do you want your life to look like in 10 years? 20? Own a home? Wife? Kids? Travel? Nice car? Then plan backwards from there. Be detailed. Then break your plan up. Into 5 year plans. Then yearly. Then quarterly. Then monthly. Then weekly. All the way down to daily. Then execute. Your main issue is Habit. For instance porn. You did 4 days straight! That’s…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/26 09:19 AM
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more fulfilling What we find more fulfilling might not be what you find more fulfilling. If you’re not certain do the harder one first and spin plates. It’s easier to acquire the skills to go from having multiple options to one, then one to many. Godspeed and good luck!
/r/TheRedPill04/04/26 09:02 AM

the moment you finish As a perfectionist I’m the other way inclined. When I was in the private sector, even if objectively I knew a project was completed I always felt like there was more ‘left on the table’. Irked me to no end, because hindsight is always 20/20. I’m better at accepting subpar outcomes these days. Anyone though who knows how good it feels to be in a competitive cauldron and come out the other side, will attest their is nothing quite like that feeling. I call it The Brady Mentali…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:39 PM

Good luck for tomorrow bud!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:31 PM
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harmful to society The primary flaw in this viewpoint is that objectively, the level of harm pivots on the level of critical thinking a society possesses. For instance if a politician has documented, public viewpoints that are quite extreme? An uneducated or less critical society might vote that candidate into their highest office. Conversely an individual with sufficient critical thinking skills, can delineate the difference between fictional dramas and their own realistic outcomes. Mitigating …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:22 PM
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usually live where their extended families and jobs are. The other side of the OP is theocracies existing within democratic societies. For instance reportedly in England the NHS has directives to inform and dissuade certain minority groups from partaking first cousin marriages. Due to the influx in genetic issues arising from these unions. What happens if these ‘extended’ families grow into ‘extended’ voting majorities? It’s an interesting premise to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:30 PM

Hehe! Love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:45 PM

how much of masculinity and femininity is actually biologically real, and how much we just build over thousands of years as the norm. The primary flaw in this viewpoint is that objectively, civilisation can survive with far fewer males than females. This factor has been pivotal since we were huddled in caves, right up to modern day Japan or South Korea. Thus regardless of social role, biology supersedes it as a factor from an individual level, right up to a global scale. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:43 PM

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/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:34 PM
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If you didn’t pay her, she wouldn’t go Sounds like wife material to me. Just kidding. The key to the quote is simply that the value of sex is finite, and not valued as much as the temporary nature of a transactional relationship. It is from the movie Four Brothers. The film uses it as analogy for hiring assassins from out of town, as opposed to local assassins. The comparison being that it is not just the service the client values, but the ability to leave or ‘get the hell out of town’ that is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:34 PM

you did it you make a decision to live a lie they lived an objectively happy life These are all black and white outcomes. As is; you decide to stay All your examples are clear cut absolutes. will that revelation be beneficial The primary reason breaking this issue into objective absolutes is beneficial? It establishes an objective range between two opposite outcomes. For instance objectively if an individual is unaware of the infidelity? As in your first example they literally will continue on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:24 PM
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men still care about genuine attraction Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:23 PM

you did it you make a decision to live a lie they lived an objectively happy life These are all black and white outcomes. As is; you decide to stay will that revelation be beneficial The primary reason breaking this issue absolutes are beneficial is because it establishes an objective range between two opposite outcomes. For instance objectively if an individual is unaware of the infidelity? As in your first example, they literally will continue on as if nothing happened changed. Conversely the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:09 PM
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certain hormones such as oxytocin and vasopressin. Do these hormones not exist in objective reality? Thus can be objectively quantified? Relationships are not purely transactional. TRP however uses these analogies of economics to illustrate the objective reality of love. For instance before love can exist two people must meet. This can only occur in objective reality. This is indisputable. Love is a subjective experience. I agree. This experience however can only exist in context to objective re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:58 PM
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want to have sex he get to pay amount You don’t pay a hoe for sex, you pay a hoe to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:16 AM
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Like there is no way love can exist is we can’t measure it objectively Not at all. Love can exist, but the pivotal factor is how it exists. For instance say love exists between two individuals. The only way this love is both acknowledged and reciprocated? Is through interacting in objective reality. If you disagree, you would have to explain how the bond of love is shared between two individuals without the use of objective reality. Say telepathically. Spiritually etc.. You need a rationale of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:53 PM

fucking a machine This is the core the issue; are machines tools? Or the next step of our evolution? As an optimist I think we will course correct, and future generations will realign their priorities closer towards their humanity. That said we also need to push the boundaries of what is possible, to attain what is impossible. So it certainly is an exciting time to be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:25 PM
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scope means the extent of I’m saying they don’t understand the full extent Let’s say I agree. TRP does not understand the full scope of how relationships are formed. Does this mean there is no objective framework that can be used to quantify relationships? Say, depth of connection. It cannot be objectively quantified. This reasonable? Bonding transcends the transactional nature of relationships on purpose I agree with you that bonding is a transcendent, ethereal and subjective experience. This e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:47 PM
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SAHM is sooooo hard. As stay a home parent for most of last decade, my experience has been the opposite. Life’s pretty good. Additionally, my wife resigned from her job a few weeks ago and is taking a few months off work. Plus our youngest just started formal education this year. So we’ve both been very fortunate these last few weeks hanging out together between school runs. If one has the time, staying at home is no issue at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:00 PM
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The RP doesn’t actually hold any deep truth about human relationships it just doesn’t consider the full scope of how humans form relationships. The reason economic frameworks are helpful is because relationships can be viewed on an objective scale. For instance framing relationships from dependence, to independence. Objectively, every single relationship can be quantified on this scale. This is not limited to TRP, and is an oft utilised process across numerous fields of study. I am a romantic at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:05 PM
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You’ll get there my guy! I’m rooting for ya!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:12 AM
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there aren’t enough cute 20yo girls The only single guy in my bestie group has a saying; a new one turns 20 every single day. Objectively, he’s right. That’s not to deride partnering young and building a life together. As a Christian I think that’s far more fulfilling than ‘having fun’. If a young guy however is willing to put in the work? His options will only increase. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:10 AM
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Or I’m just happy for both of them. They’re beautiful together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:06 AM
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Man. That, was a rabbit hole haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:56 AM
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Good buddy! Happy Easter!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:47 AM
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emulate modern women behaviour The primary reason this is poor advice, is because normal men do not enjoy the same privileges as modern women. Conversely a far more tried and tested method is to lean more heavily into masculinity. Primarily Strength. Physical strength. Emotional. Fiscal and practical. These tenets are not only realistically beneficial, but empower men at an individual level. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:46 AM
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weak from the start Agreed. It doesn’t even specify how attractive the wives are. Land whales? ”All hands to battle stations!” Hotties? ”What’s for dinner hun?” It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:28 AM
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So I was just in the chemist, and the young assistant says to me; ”you talk like a fictional character..” Then follows it up with ”that’s a good thing..” Just because I was sharing a bit of fun, flirty banter with the chemist. I’m proud of her that she spoke her mind, but man maybe a little less fictional characters, and interacting with real life ones might be a little more beneficial for her. She seemed like a good kid though, so I hope she works it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:08 AM

homophobic Genuine question; how is it homophobic? Objectively; if one is turned off at the thought of a man having sex with another man, is that not a reasonable metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:48 AM
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”they should be I agree. Expectations on a partner who is struggling makes it hard. For instance my wife and I struggled to rekindle our sex life postpartum twice. The first time was rough. She even said if I wanted I could find ‘it’ elsewhere. I told her we’d just have to be patient with each other, and we’d get through it. It was testing. Yet because we were both on board with open and honest communication, we managed to workshop our way through it. The second time was not as testing, but stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:21 AM
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This is you Oddly enough it is. I am black, but I was sent to a private school in The West. So my preference for what I am primarily attracted to are white women. I do not discriminate against black women. I do not fear dating them. I just am more attracted to white women. Does this make me racist? If so, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:11 AM
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So you disagree with the OP too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:46 AM
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interest in sex is generally about physiological and psychological issues. I agree with this. The healthiest remedy being open, honest and proactive communication. It is only cruel when one party is denying the other the opportunity to work through the issue together and hopefully come out the other side stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:43 AM
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shares your sexuality has no other explanation other than biphobia. This is the crux of the OP. If a woman is seeing a man, and she knows he has had relations with other men and turned off by this revelation? To you and OP, equate that to a fear of bisexuals? Exactly if a fat person does not want to date another fattie? That, would be fatphobia? This, to you, is reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:37 AM

biological ties Happy to point out the reasoning for your critique. First, just because an aspect is a huge part of an individual’s makeup, does not make it universally applicable to all individuals. Objectivity demanding we acknowledge and incorporate this fact. Hence no existing monolith. That established, the vast majority of males do subscribe to societal norms and have done since we as a species worked out fairly early on that we are stronger together, than we are apart. Hence the importanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:24 AM

a huge aspect My friend, is not all aspects. A slight, yet very key distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:00 AM

That really doesn’t make sense. Agreed. It only makes sense when you understand and accept that men are not a monolith. Nor are they a static concept. For instance a man can be a womanising dead beat dad one day. Then ‘find Jesus’ the next and spend the rest of his days trying to make amends. Or the opposite. Walk away from 20 years of a wholesome marriage and family, and start swinging in sex dungeons. Monogamy as a practice is not for everyone, all the time. It’s beneficial to understand, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:55 AM
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Hilarious! It’s almost as those that agree with the OP do not understand that sexuality can be and often is a preference, at least in context to attraction. Crudely put, just because a woman finds other women attractive, does not mean they have to find men who like penises attractive. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:48 AM
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My friend, does the OP make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:58 PM
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subjective in nature. Agreed. So if an individual is subjectively attracted to an immutable trait, that is okay? For instance two people connect online in a game. Grow feelings for each other. FaceTime. The lot. Meet in real life for the first time. There is no subjective attraction. Objectively, is this revelation insufficient reason to end the relationship? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:56 PM
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defend what they wrote? They wrote; it’s dumb and makes no sense To which I questioned; if the OP uses say, fat people as a direct example and the comment agrees with it, then surely the same applies to fit people. Agreed? The goal being to ‘make sense’ of both the OP, and the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:49 PM
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the most objective way possible Preference. For instance if one is attracted to potential partners with an immutable trait, it is well within one’s rights pursue only those that possess that trait. Sexuality. Height. Skin colour etc.. Regardless if one does or does not possess this trait. Objectively, is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:44 PM
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they completely possess the right. Agreed. Objectively then what bearing does the reason have on one’s ability to exercise this right? For instance say it is not a preference but discrimination, or any of the rationales you’ve listed above. Should this fact impact one’s right to choose to leave a relationship? For whatever reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:28 PM
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women would like masses of men attempting this This is a good point. So in your opinion most women do not or would not appreciate fun banter?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:22 PM
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you would literally never know. This is a good point. Let’s say I agree, that the information about one’s sexual history is inconsequential. For instance, two bi people date. Get married. Have kids. Retire. The information comes out. Is one not entitled to their feelings about this revelation? Furthermore, do they not possess the right to choose to end the relationship over this fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:17 PM
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Bisexuality and physical fitness aren’t connected Yet in the OP fatness is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:09 PM

square this belief Easily. All independent individuals are free to choose how they fulfil their need for belonging. For instance a man can choose to be a present and active father. Conversely his identical twin brother can be a dead beat dad, and leave a slew of baby momma’s in his wake. Both these outcomes objectively, are not an indictment on the practice of monogamy. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:07 PM
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got into sex work instead of getting a degree in sex therapy (takes way too long and I don’t have that kind of time to heal people). First, I just want to acknowledge and say thank you for the work you do. As a ‘centre aligned’ conservative I can see and appreciate the value you and others in your profession contribute to society. That said the key difference is exactly what you said; a degree. Objectively, if sex workers in totality were required to hold a tertiary level of education to fill th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:02 PM
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Sex work is a form of social work. My wife as a former psychologist has a ton of experience in nonprofits working with social workers. I will ask her, but I would not think the social workers in her networks would consider the work they do as comparable to that of sex work. That said there are family and relationship counsellors, sex therapists and other healthcare professionals that have a ton of qualifications. Those professionals however are subject to ethics and the upholding of professional…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:36 PM
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good deliberate dating outlets The key retort to the OP is shifting the responsibility of dating not just to women’s active participation, but to dating ‘outlets’ in general. For instance prior to TRP I did okay with girls. At bars. Community events. A ton through mutual networks(mostly family). Just randomly meeting(how I met my ex wife). Post TRP? I now view the entire world is one massive ‘dating outlet’. So I just started flirting with everyone. Everywhere. Almost all of it was just a bit of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:22 PM

Monogamy sucks because too many people act like dramatic insecure teenagers. This is a criticism of an individual’s choices, not monogamy. All your examples are of the actions of individuals, not the practice of monogamy. Conversely, the primary benefit and arguably timeless advantage of monogamy and more specifically the institution of marriage is the concentration of wealth, resources and most importantly filial identity. For instance humans are herd animals. Belonging is a huge aspect of our …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:08 PM

simply opted out fully Let’s take this premise to its natural conclusion; when would men then re-enter The SMP? Presumably it would be advantageous to get back into the market again before one’s competition. Additionally, the ‘non-invisible’ men would not have left in the first place. So for the invisible men re-enter The SMP there would be a level of competition already established too. Which leads to the question; when would it be optimal for invisible men to rejoin the dating marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:55 PM
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makes no sense no different from a fat person turning down a fat person So as a decently fit person that means I can only date other fit people? How does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:51 PM

son or daughter I have both. Would love more of each.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:49 PM
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A TOP COMMENT NOR. Withholding important info in order to get sex is a type of sexual assault/rape I believe. If you wouldn't have consented given the truth, it may fall under the label of rape by deception. It's unlikely that she didn't know what she was doing when lying about it. I do think this is a massive red flag that would be worthy of a breakup but whether it's feasible, safe, convenient at the time etc to break up with someone will very much depend on your specific situation, though giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:06 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM A OVERREACTION SUB AIO for wanting to break up with my GF? Hi all. My girlfriend, 18F, and I, 20M, have been together for about 3 weeks now. Over time, we’ve gotten more physical with each other, and have held hands, kissed, and very recently, been intimate with each other. Now this would be fine, but she lied to me about something very important. The first time we had sex, I wasn’t expecting to as we were just driving around in my car, and so I didn’t bring condoms, so I said we …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:04 PM
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barbarian king Is not the current message du jour though no Kings?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:45 PM
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I am one I was not a full time single father, but I did have 50-50 custody. After my first divorce, I spent a significant sum chasing 50-50 custody. The process took me roughly 2 years. My eldest is now 17. We’re working on assignments, presentations and getting ready for her next steps into a good university. I just want to acknowledge the work you’re putting in. Your little ones do appreciate it. Best wishes!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:23 AM
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cherry pick The premise of your point is that something negative impacts an individual. e.g. cancer. My retort addresses your point directly. Using your own analogy. Which is not cherry picking. Unaware is Not the same as being unaffected. This is a good point. Let’s say I agree, being unaware is not the same as being unaffected. For instance an individual lives their entire life without ever being aware that they have a nail in their head. Passes peacefully in their sleep. How has the nail nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:05 PM
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pressure accumulation This is a great analogy. For instance objectively at what point does the pressure come to bear on the innocent party?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:36 PM
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not knowing about your cancer is bliss, then yes. This is a good analogy. For instance say an individual has cancer but is both unaware and unaffected by it. Right up into they pass away, peacefully in their sleep. Objectively, how has the cancer affected their worldview for the entirety of their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:32 PM
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infertility Infertility caused by STD’s would fall under becoming aware of the infidelity. At which point one’s decision making would be better informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:23 PM
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excuse abuse This is a good analogy. One that is closest to the OP. For instance say one’s partner is abusive. Yet one is unaware that it is abuse. Objectively a negative scenario. How does ignorance of the negativity impact their perception of the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:16 PM
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why does objectivity even matter here It is the fundamental premise upon which a functioning worldview operates. Universally. They’re not “unharmed”, they’re uniformed. This is a good point. Let’s say I agree, that being unaware is harmful. Say something negative is happening, but an individual is unaware because they are unaffected. How does that negativity impact them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:02 PM
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you’d be dying with a shaky conscience. This is a good point. Yet, objectively, the innocent party would remain both unaware, and ultimately unharmed. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:38 PM
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raising another man’s child This is a good point. If a man is unaware of the real paternity of his child, does this fact change his perception or relationship with said child?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:35 PM
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telling him isn’t going to make his life any better. This is a good point. Let’s say I agree, that with 3 months left to live revealing the truth is not going to make one’s life better. This would mean that the opportunity to learn the truth, process the betrayal, forgive it and let it go would not be beneficial. Even with only 3 months to go. This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:31 PM
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”Objectively” is not a cop out phrase here. Okay. Let’s simplify the point of OP further, to negate the influence of morality. For instance say an individual is unaware of something negative their partner is partaking in. Can be as small or as large a negative as you deem necessary. Whatever negative the partner is involved in, the individual is unaware of it. Objectively, how is the individual negatively affected?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:27 PM
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areas in America That’s not good. Terrible times to be stateside. STIs can be fatal Presumably at that point an individual would be aware of the infidelity. Thus would be able to make better informed decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:14 PM
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I just know it’s a possible reality my partner is cheating on me now. I deliberately choose to trust my partners This is my point of view as well. For instance if my partner cheats and I do not know? How am I affected? The only way I am affected is when I become aware of the cheating. Upon which my decision making will be better informed. Until then however? The trust remains intact. Is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:05 PM
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she found out. divorce happened So, objectively her finding was beneficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:02 PM
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Yeah not the best at it. If something did pop up as long as it wasn’t too serious? It would not be a big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:01 PM
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Bill and Miranda Sorry, I’m out of the loop? Did she pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:53 PM
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Agreed. It’s the most efficient way to approach a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:52 PM
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exposed to STDs This is a good point. Let’s say I agree, that they are unaware of potential STD’s. Objectively, does this fact change their perception of the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:51 PM
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How reasonable is cycling as an alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:27 AM
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it devalues their experience vs their entire existence This is a good point. Let’s define ‘their entire existence’. For instance from dating to marriage. Kids. Retirement and beyond. Right up until the end. One has amassed this entire history blissfully unaware. Does the fact they are ignorant change their worldview? Or how they view their entire history?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:51 AM
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two different outcomes Only in context to being better informed. Which directly informs my preference to knowing or not knowing. a. If I know? The outcome is still the same as it was always going to be. b. If I do not know? The trust remains intact, and the outcome again is still the same as it was always going to be. For the entirety of the relationship. So my preference for knowing or not knowing becomes irrelevant. To the fact I’ve already accounted for and accepted that regardless of variabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:33 AM
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If your wife cheats on you, would you prefer to know or be ignorant Objectively it makes no difference because for me, the outcome is the same. For instance my wife holidays frequently. Mostly to her best friend’s farm to ride horses, and to see family. Ample opportunity. If she cheats? I would have no idea, and the trust remains intact. Quite a blissful state. If I found out? The relationship ends, because I’m better informed. There is very little downside. Is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:28 AM
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Okay. Let’s lay out the logic and you pick it apart. For instance your point is that if one’s partner chooses to cheat, the ignorance that one lives in from this fact is not really ‘bliss’. Following this logic if one lives their entire life in this false ‘bliss’? That fact would devalue their entire existence. From dating to marriage. To kids. To retirement and beyond. Their entire worldview. Right up until the end. This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:18 AM
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if they are immediately aware or not. This is a good point. If an individual lives their entire existence unaware, does this fact then devalue their entire existence? This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:04 AM
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Ignorance is only bliss if you choose it yourself. This is a good point. If an individual lives their entire existence unaware, does that mean that fact then devalue their entire existence? This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:00 AM
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No one should have their ignorance chosen for them This is a good point. If an individual lives their entire existence unaware, does that mean that fact then devalue their entire existence? This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:59 AM
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you can’t prove objectivity This is a good point. Let’s say I agree, that objectivity cannot be proven. What is the next best rationale? Let’s say reasonability. For instance if an individual is unaware of something negative, does it impact them negatively? Is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:56 AM
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CMV: Objectively if one does not know their partner is cheating, ignorance is bliss. Conversely if one finds out their partner is cheating, this information is beneficial. Towards making better informed decisions moving forward. Change this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:36 PM
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you’ve “done the work” This is the key. If an individual has done the work, objectively their outcomes will reflect this. If the outcomes do not reflect the output? The work ‘done’ is insufficient. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:33 PM
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Just replaced my first ever MacBook Pro screen yesterday. The world we have created is a fascinating place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:21 PM
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marrying a 4 with 4 baby daddys If a woman has 4 babies to 4 different men, objectively the responsibility of this outcome is not on the 5th man. Hell, if she goes 5/5 from the field it’s not the responsibility of the 6th husband either. Objectively if a 7th man marries her, he’s not responsible for the numerous poor decisions that preceded him. If anything, he’s doing the lord’s work. It that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:59 PM
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the egg is pickier The odds are purportedly millions to one. Insane odds for one human being to start their life, as opposed to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:46 PM
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I’m happy for you guys I second this. I’m a little biased but I love seeing not just young guys but both guy and girls getting in the gym. Dressing well. For instance I have a 17 year old that plays rugby. The community around her is focused on playing well. On nutrition. Weight training. Hydration. Sleep. Time management. Healthy and wholesome interactions between sexes. There’s just so much benefit and positivity to derive from a community like that. Self improvement en masse is the rising tid…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:34 PM
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Quattro!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:31 PM
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they only really work when both people can walk easily Why should a lack of options force anyone to stay in a relationship? For instance is Desperation the primary factor keeping your cousin’s partner in the relationship? Objectively, both parties have agency. As soon as another factor supersedes her desperation, what is going to motivate your cousin’s partner to stay? Conversely a far more beneficial mindset is to acknowledge and accept all relationships end. Regardless of reason. Which not onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:12 AM
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in no way unique or particular to feminism. Agreed. The OP falls into the same trap it is attempting to critique. For instance just because some feminists cherry pick stats to support their arguments, neither confirms nor negates their validity. The most beneficial response when faced with cherry picking is to apply objectivity. Then focus on the merit of the argument. Not who is making it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:00 PM
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Most men understand attraction is the primary factor, that precedes both social skill and personality. Additionally, most men understand and accept that personality is often irrelevant to both attractiveness and social skill. For instance almost all women have a story about a ‘bad’ guy. Often, numerous examples. Hence the ‘nice’ guys finishing last.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:53 PM
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I don’t eve want to think about it. Genuine question; if your partner lost you in a tragic, unforeseen way; how would you want them to continue on living? In grief? Sadness? Misery and loneliness? Or cherish your memory, but move on? Why is there always an overwhelming focus on just one aspect of death, but little thought to living? Even boldly claiming one doesn’t even want to think about it, as though there is only one way to cherish and honour the dead? I have never understood this way of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:45 PM
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triggered This is the key. If an individual is self aware enough? Then has healthy strategies in place? They can first sufficiently acknowledge their emotions and accept them. Finally, better process them both effectively and efficiently. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:35 PM

This is a good point. So experience is separate to consciousness?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:45 AM

unfalsifiable This is a good point. Say I agree. We cannot prove consciousness. This would mean that we cannot prove that we have emerged from physical structures. As everything pivots on an unprovable premise. This more reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:40 AM

Yes. Okay. Let’s lay out the logic and you point out the flaw. Does stuff/life have sentience? Awareness? Consciousness? I am of the camp that yes, we are a living, sentient, consciously aware amalgamation of stuff/atoms/molecules/chemicals. Is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:21 AM

made of stuff Of course. This ‘stuff’ has however evolved to attain sentience. Which responds to stimuli. This fact is observed from the most simple of organisms(stuff), to the most complex. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:12 AM

your actions are determined by your neurochemistry This is a good point. Say I agree, that every outcome is a direct result of biology. This would mean identical twins have no ‘free will’ to determine their own outcomes independent of, and from each other. This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:10 AM
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what circumstances As many as reasonably applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:25 PM
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Love you too bud!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:24 PM
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keto Or ket? Cause I love me some keto.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:18 PM

don’t believe free will exists How so? I’ve read a little about Sapolsky, but really do not understand enough to form an informed opinion. Conversely, in my anecdotal experience, almost all my outcomes have come by conscious decision. So cannot relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:11 PM

is the issue mostly individual (self-improvement) An individual is not entitled to anything. For instance say a government subsidises travel, access and ‘globalises’ The SMP. An individual still fails to secure a partner. What is the next step? Objectively, an individual is responsible for their own outcomes. It is far more beneficial to take personal responsibility for one’s outcomes, then relying on external sources of aid. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:12 PM
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Wishing you the best my guy. Hope you can ease your anxiety, and get a good night’s rest tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:38 PM
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How far If it was implanted into another biological human. I’d consider it, but even then I’d be reticent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:31 AM
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shits expensive This, ultimately is key. Objectively one’s resources determines one’s outcomes. For instance it was a pivotal factor driving me after college, and when I was re-partnering. So if we were divorce tomorrow? We’d both be fine. Being aligned financially is one of the biggest vetting decisions an individual can make. Especially long term. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:26 AM
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Good luck with the search!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:04 AM
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Wishing you a speedy recovery my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:04 AM
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they are small spaces The key though is understanding how the sexes are socially divided from an individual level, right up to a global level. For instance globally any elite arm of a defence force is exclusively male. Presumably because the physical requirements are so extreme. Is it pragmatic to sacrifice that extremism for equality? Conversely, at an individual level should society eliminate gendered bathrooms? So a bunch of my very big rugby bros and I can use one bathroom, right alongside o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:08 AM
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you can’t separate women from men If that was the case, women only spaces would not exist. Objectively, through out history there has always been a clear delineation between the sexes. Even right up to today. For instance change rooms. Sports. The military. The aforementioned women only spaces. Divisive between the sexes. Which is fine. It is pragmatic to align social systems and structures to objective reality. What the digital age has contributed to is an over representation of the extremes. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:07 PM
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What’s the point Personally? There is no equivalent to first creating life, then nurturing that life to maturity. I’m biased because I have a 17 year old soon turning 18. She works. Plays rugby. Trains a 3 day split. Isn’t a straight A student, but got a B+ on a recent assignment to which my reply was being proud. Nothing is equal to parenthood in my experience. Additionally, if one plans well it’s not that hard to setup a solid work-life balance(or no work at all hehe!). I worked very hard duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:56 AM
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Not living in the 5th world is really nice, actually. As someone who frequently travels between a modern democracy and developing nations, I agree with this. I also think that it is incumbent on every individual to expand their worldview as broadly as possible, to encompass what is happening in the world. refuse to condemn these attacks Objectively, acknowledging it is ‘not all men’ is not the same as refusing to condemn the heinous acts happening in Nigeria. Additionally, there are at least som…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:30 AM
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if a guy falls off in habits Life, not just relationships takes work. A habit will only ‘fall off’ if it is not ingrained. For instance one’s eating habits. Work habits. Training habits. I wake up almost automatically at 5am, and am straight into my home gym for a workout daily. A habit for roughly 15 years. Objectively, healthy relationships are subject to the same process. For instance Trust. Communication. Values, expectations and goals. Traditions. Daily routines and rituals that reaffirm lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:14 AM
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CROSSPOST FROM A TRUE OFF MY CHEST SUB I now know what it’s like to be a hot girl (I’m a guy). Out of the blue in November, I just decided based on absolutely nothing to be an adult streamer. Since then I’ve come to realize that to someone who is into a guy with a certain build and look, I’m quite popular. I don’t have tons of fans, but the ones I have are die hard. And as such, I have hundreds of guys constantly hitting me up (I’m straight) and tens of girls, and I’ve got to tell ya, you always…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:17 PM
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Male status is getting truly FUCKED up I have not watched the documentary, but status is contextual. For instance one’s status in context to society objectively? Is the same as it has been since the dawn of time; one is either capable of attaining what they want, or they are not. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:09 PM

far harder Yet in context to physique, very simple. Time and consistent discipline the only necessities. Additionally, in context to grooming for young guys there’s a wealth of information readily accessible. Again, simple and straightforward to apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:35 PM
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inextricable concepts This is a good point. Let’s say I agree. Values cannot be separated from politics. For instance say one values freedom of choice, and the equality of opportunity. Regardless of policy, these values dictate one votes for ‘their’ party over another. Even if another party or candidate runs on a platform that better aligns with these values. This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:07 PM
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your partner aligning with you enough Is not a matter of politics, but values. Objectively, framing values through politics is only one facet of a person’s worldview. For instance one could frame their values through religion. Or through their level of education. Their values formed and framed through their family dynamic, or relationship history. In context to dating, Politics as a way to frame values if not irrelevant, at the very least is a secondary consideration. To the values themselves. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:53 PM

It carries the same energy I disagree. Unless inherited it takes a ton of work to own one property, let alone several. Getting dick in this day and age? She wouldn’t even need to leave the wedding venue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:15 PM

response to serious suspicion of breaking trust Yep. My litmus test is simple; Doubt. I have never had reason to doubt in my current relationship, but if I did I’d just ask. If I still had doubts, and heaven and earth was not moved to assuage that doubt? I would just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:10 PM

Too funny!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:05 PM
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they’re not Agreed. Grifters regardless of what they’re pushing presumably have an agenda. Most likely money. The main TRP sub and The Manosphere in general however is free. So if a young guy wastes their hard earned on either Grifters or Bonnie Blue? That’s a lesson they’ll hopefully learn from. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:54 PM
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not following your lead or not being able to reach a compromise The primary retort is that if one’s partner loves them enough? There is nothing they will not do for them. They will sacrifice anything and everything. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:26 PM
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a pointless distinction The key distinction in context to force as mentioned above is in national defence. Again, not a field exclusively for men, but one overwhelmingly dominated by them. For instance a smaller society was once a part of a bigger neighbour. The neighbour begins marshalling forces along the border. Invades. What are the only two choices that smaller society has? Surrender. Or fight. Now, this is fine if a society has sufficient fighters. What happens if a society runs out of fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:59 AM
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the political and elite class Whilst I agree, this perspective is too narrow. If scaling out perspective as objectively as possible, the entire premise of civility pivots on the mobility of force. If a society or country cannot or chooses not to protect its ‘elites’? For instance Khamenei or Maduro? What happens? Conversely if an ‘elite’ can mobilise enough voters to vote in force? In a progressive democracy there’s very little the minority can do, other than to mobilise en masse in reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:37 AM
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how this relates Objectively, we are a sexually dimorphic species. Granted between the sexes we are more similar than we are different. Yet those differences manifest in widely observable patterns. That transcend both time, and location.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:15 AM
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literally have no power as a class of people. Regardless of reason the defence of any society has been, and currently still is a field dominated by men. Additionally, it is reported that even in some of the most egalitarian of societies in Scandinavia women overwhelmingly still choose not to pursue certain STEM careers. Again, in fields dominated by men. Yes, objectively these facets of society are not exclusive to the male ‘class’. They do however indicate a widely observable pattern, across bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:58 AM
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making money Someone is. I have not watched the documentary but I would imagine Myron, Tate and whoever else is labeled as ‘redpilled’ are assuming the labelling for a reason like money. Or maybe they enjoy the infamy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:33 AM
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If someone is willing to do or say anything tone famous and make money, what difference is it The key difference between pornstars and TRP grifters is the product. Objectively sex sells. Pornstars sell it directly as content. Grifters sell it as a potential outcome. TRP as a sub or The Manosphere as an ideology in general? Gives it away. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:43 AM
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Agreed. Which is why I stated: persevering until these feelings are fulfilled. It is the first option, and personally the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:58 PM

You got it my guy! One thing at a time, the first thing is being kinder to yourself. You got this!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:48 PM

Haha! I have never thought of that! Too funny!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:47 PM

speedos I love Budgie Smugglers. Matter of fact with summer coming I’m going to buy another pair. They’re the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:45 PM

As someone married to an individual of Irish descent, sunscreen is a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:43 PM
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accept being a worthless loser An individual accepting their current circumstances does not make them a loser. It is not only pragmatic, it is objectively the first step to addressing the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:38 PM
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she has the same two choices Agreed. Which is the most efficient system of emotional regulation. Acknowledging and accepting that which cannot be changed, then persevering with things that can be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:30 PM
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an internal feeling Agreed. Which objectively can only be healthily processed two ways; through persevering until these feelings are fulfilled, or acceptance they remain currently unfulfilled. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:08 PM
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if you want kids, marriage makes name change easier I agree with this. Marriage is key to one’s sense of identity. For instance identifying and being identified as belonging to a certain family has been and is a powerful social tool. As a somewhat ‘nepo baby’ I know that I wouldn’t enjoy my current lifestyle, if my cousin did not hire me to his firm straight out of college. Sharing a surname and subsequent lineage is hugely advantageous. In almost all cases of success, relationships are a pivota…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:01 PM
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convinces its carriers that these arrangements are natural rather than inherited. Human beings have never lived in a Patriarchy. Since the dawn of time, all living organisms have been and are still subject to The Meritocracy of Life. For instance it can be beneficial to compare niche practices such as footbinding to social dynamics. Objectively however all social structures are subject to that society’s ability to enforce it’s way of life. If a society wants to outlaw a practice, be it footbindi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:13 PM
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Anytime my guy. Godspeed and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:02 PM

nevet been abused and I mean actually based on a daily basis Objectively there are only two methods to process Trauma; effectively or ineffectively. For instance my siblings and I were beaten regularly. My siblings still have issues around it. Conversely I have forgiven my parents. I understand their views, accept them and more importantly look upon our current relationship including history with love and gratitude. If an individual has effectively processed their Trauma, it is no longer an issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:23 AM
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Solutions Stick with Objectivity, then learn to temper it with social skills and emotional intuition. That is far more beneficial than to sacrifice objectivity to accommodate emotion. Primarily because change, but Objectivity is constant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:07 AM

<image> What a wild take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:22 PM
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stop caring as much It is okay to care deeply about others. Potential partners included. It is however detrimental to allow these emotions to overly impact one’s outcomes. A far more beneficial approach is to master Acceptance. Care a little. Care deeply. However do so with as broad a perspective as possible. With as much objectivity as feasible. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:40 AM

the first-born Or last. It is fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:29 AM
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Redpill gave me some success Leaving the redpill gave me twenty times more My outcomes were the opposite; did well enough dating pre-TRP. Post TRP dating was much easier. For instance I had all the ingredients. TRP simply was the recipe book I used to cook up a bunch of deliciousness. It was that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:23 AM

so they can “learn for next time”. Should a victim not learn for next time? To you, this is reasonable? If not, questioning all actions and decisions especially around when best to leave an abusive situation? Objectively? Is valuable information to learn. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:05 AM
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let’s not pretend your preferences are anything but that, being scared. Whilst I agree fear can be a motivating yet more often limiting factor, objectively preferences are not solely shaped by it. For instance Fear does not solely compel an individual to lift weights, nor prefer the same or even opposite trait in others. Emotional regulation and sexual preferences are two coexisting, yet separate factors. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:59 AM

understood more That’s positive. There are so many creative geniuses out there. It’s nice to hear that this show has been beneficial for you. Hope you’re doing well my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:44 AM

Bo Jack?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:38 AM
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she can decide about it with this in mind. Agreed. What then is more efficient towards this goal not just for the woman but for both parties; a single document presented every single time prior to sex? Or, a default legal status?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:38 AM
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What was education like We use objectivity. Heavily. The woman is fully responsible for proceeding to give birth. Agreed. Is then having a default legal and financial status recognising this fact for both parties more efficient(and effective)? Or, to you, is the ‘one and done’ system you propose more reasonable? If so, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:15 AM
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considering miscarriages exists, not a lot. This is a good point. Miscarriages aside, post conception what level of bodily autonomy is a woman responsible for when deciding to proceed to childbirth? Zero responsibility? Or 100% responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:45 PM
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it’s a direct response Objectively one individual is not responsible for the response of another. At least initially too the more attractive an individual is, the less their financial situation is factor. For either gender. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:09 PM
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You’re very welcome my friend. Wishing you nothing but the best! Godspeed and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:04 PM
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basically telling her that he’s aware she’s taking a risk This is a good point. Objectively, currently is this not the default level of awareness? If not, what percentage of men are unaware of the risk of pregnancy to women? Most? A handful? If so, could the process of ‘paper’ abortions be simplified further? To encompass not just most men, but all men? So a woman regardless of who the man is and whatever he says, she knows exactly what his legal obligation is. Prior to even meeting him. A defau…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:57 PM
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Getting jacked is probably not worth the effort This is an interesting point. Say I agree, getting jacked is not worth the effort. Objectively how pivotal is physical strength to quality of life? Unnecessary? Or fundamental? I’m of the view physical strength is fundamental. Thus not only worth pursuing but as Socrates posits worth truly testing to the limit, what one is capable of. Grooming and social skills complimenting this foundation. This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:00 PM
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men don’t have the same issue Objectively, an individual’s outcomes reflects their level of decisiveness. This fact is not gendered. It is universal fact. For instance if an individual is doggedly determined? If they do not give up, the only other factor is Time. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:35 PM

life is not about how you long you live but experience of living it. First, love Dr K. That said does life give us meaning? Or do we give meaning to our lives? Objectively, relationships are only one facet of life. Key, sure. Yet one could absolutely become so immersed in other domains that it not only fulfils every other aspect of life; it can complete it. The key is balance. It is beneficial to experience wholesome relationships. It is however far more beneficial to keep this fact in perspecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:26 PM
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put an unequally large respond on women This is a good point. Post conception, objectively how much of the responsibility do women have for the choice to proceed to childbirth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:17 PM
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but I’m not Objectively your point of view is an exception. genuine attraction The key is simple; get jacked, groom well and hone social skills. These facets will significantly improve most average guys outcomes. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:12 PM
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Men get a free pass This is a good point. Say I agree. That default legislation gives men a free pass. Would it better if men just had a stack of these “paper abortions” readily available? So when needed he just signs away and off they go. That more reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:04 PM
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I’m up for “paper abortions” if and only if they are agreed on before sex. The simplest solution is to make this stance the default legislation. Then at any point post conception, a man can just sign on to be legally and financially responsible. For instances where both parties are enthusiastic prior to sex, the man signs on beforehand. Men gain autonomy, and women retain it. It is the simplest and most effective solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:24 PM
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pro-choice I’ve just realised I made a mistake. I read pro-choice as pro-life. My apologies. That said, let’s pull it apart to see what the objective reality is. the individual desire to have a child should not affect the choice of another person This is a good point. At what point should this decision be legally binding? For instance two parties agree pre-coitus that children are not an option. Conception occurs. Objectively, should the woman be legally bound to the agreement she made prior to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:12 PM
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Don’t have a baby with someone who isn’t enthusiastic about it if you can avoid it. The issue is post conception, only the woman decides the level of enthusiasm required. For instance two people can be fully on board about not having kids. Plan B. Abortion if necessary(and a legal option). As soon as conception occurs? Enthusiasm is only applicable to one party. Conversely as a Christian, I interpret the pro-choice movement more akin demonstrating to enthusiasm for kids pre-conception. For insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:47 PM
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hurting other people This is an interesting point. Say I agree, that seeking love hurts others. Is this for every relationship? Or just some relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:47 PM
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We cannot know if our bright ideas would’ve been catastrophic This is a good point. Let’s say I agree. We cannot know for certain the outcome of our ‘bright’ ideas. Objectively, does this uncertainty then mean a victim should be encouraged to stay? Additionally, due to this uncertainty only a qualified mental health professional can encourage and support a victim to leave? This, to you, is reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:27 PM
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It wasn’t given to me So objectively, if one is not given something is that it? They cannot attain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:42 AM
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most men’s dating lives are over before they started because of a unanimous decision that they have no power to influence. This is the crux. Let’s assume this is true. One has no power to influence their own outcomes. Objectively then, should one give up? Additionally, at what point? In their twenties? Teens? From birth? If an individual chooses a self defeating worldview then they immediately handicap their potential. For change. For growth. Conversely, accepting objective reality for what it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:14 AM
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That was your answer, to the question of objectivity being beneficial. That few abusers will let everyone know of the abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:33 PM
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let everyone know Agreed. Does this then mean Objectivity is useless to the victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:58 PM
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you aren’t qualified Agreed. I simply apply common sense. For instance is it beneficial to the victim, to understand the earliest possible point when and where they could have and should have left an abusive situation? Not just during, but just as importantly for their future? Objectively? Common sense dictates. Which is the point. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:46 PM
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The first step is to verify This is a good point. I agree. Operating on the premise that a victim is a victim, is objectivity beneficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:39 PM
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The implication It is not an implication to focus directly on objective fact. Nor were the terms ‘should’ or ‘could’ used. The term used was opportunity. Therapy is something she gets to utilize Whilst I did not ascribe a sex to my comment, I agree. Professional help is fantastic for attaining an objective point of view. Through questioning. Through working through personal circumstances as objectively as possible. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:55 PM

I don’t know much about mine other than it’s a sea goat which I like, and we are purportedly stubborn(which in my case is true).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:49 PM

a third date? Yes. It’s a nothing burger and she took appropriate action to remedy the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:47 PM

your own actions I’m a selfish person, so despite my attempts to address this a lot of my actions are still driven by this fact. That said, seeing my wife happy, seeing my kids and family thrive also contributes to my own selfish sense of fulfilment. So it’s a win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:45 PM
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So many times. I don’t view love as a static, rigid thing. More so a fluid, changing dynamic. It ebbs and flows. Much like the beating of a heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:37 PM

there are only individual rankings The context of these rankings though is attractiveness to women is it not? Thus, the more attractive you are, the larger the market share of potential partners will find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:54 PM

Interesting. So how do you frame the dating landscape in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:27 PM
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it’s her family’s Agreed. So her family tells her about the abuse, and tries to help her. Her church. Her whole community tries to help. If she doesn’t want to leave, what happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:26 PM
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which is it? Neither. Objectively, women are not a monolith. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:10 AM

Did what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:03 AM

commented on a different topic Was your comment not about men listening to men, or women listening to men in context to the different leagues within The SMP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:58 AM

mem don’t get to decide everyone’s leagues. Agreed. Your ‘leagues’ exist in The SMP. In which objectively, supply dictates demand. That is not a manipulation tactic. It directly supports your point. Men do not dictate. Neither do women. Collectively, the market does. Attractiveness the scale. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:54 AM

women don’t want to agree with that. Which is their prerogative. Objectively The SMP is based on supply and demand. If one is attractive enough? There will be demand. The advice, from either gender is secondary to this fact. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:37 AM
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just a real description That’s reasonable. If it is not empowering, does there exist a framing that is more empowering? Would that individual be relegated to just an ex? With issues, granted. Yet just an ex. This framing means you did not survive anything, merely experienced the ups and downs of a relationship. You would no longer need the term ‘survivor’. Again not to diminish your experience, but to better understand your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:02 AM
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a survivor not a victim That’s reasonable. Is the identity of a survivor empowering? If so how? Conversely, would you be more empowered if you did not identify as a survivor? Is that even possible? Again, please feel free not to answer if you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:51 AM
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better mental, physical and financial shape That’s good. Are you far enough removed that you no longer identify as a survivor of abuse? Is such an outcome possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:41 AM
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none of my business, or yours So you’d agree then, behind ‘closed doors’ it’s anyone’s game?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:42 AM
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Victim mentality is a crutch This is a good point. How responsible then is an individual for freeing themselves of this mentality? Additionally, how free are you from your experiences at the hands of your ex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:01 AM
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let alone am understood Genuine question; does that experience impact you currently? If so, is that impact positive? Or negative? Additionally, how much of that experience have you processed? Please feel free not to answer too, if you wish not to share. I mean no disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:07 AM
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free will This is a solid point. Would it then be more beneficial to view victims as disabled? They do not possess sufficient critical thought nor perspective to better inform their decision making? Thus they are without full agency? If so, should be treated as such? For instance your emotionally and mentally trapped individual. Do external parties view those individuals as without agency? How far does this framing extend? From the individual? To a cult? To a religion? Objectively, if we accept …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:58 AM
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by focusing solely on this you’re also ignoring the capacity and will one has to be able to leave. This is a good point. So without the capacity or will to leave, external aid is moot? For instance the emotionally and mentally trapped victim. If that person does not have the capacity or will to leave the abusive situation? No amount of external aid will benefit them, until they consciously decide to make a change. Additionally, is that not how Therapy works? To empower agency objectively? If so,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:37 AM
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Themselves primarily Agreed. Is focusing on this fact victim blaming? Or empowering?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:05 AM
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someone would have told her about him, and someone would have helped her too Genuine question; what if she did not want to leave the abusive situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:45 AM
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First, my friend no one is holding victims responsible for staying. Your point was; a reasonable fear To which my question was; does that then mean a victim should stay in an abusive situation? To you, that is reasonable? answered by researchers Okay. Let’s say I agree. There is a myriad of statistics and data that establishes who is ultimately responsible for freeing an individual from an abusive situation. What is your view? Can you simplify your argument succinctly so everyone can better unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:37 AM
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instead of victim blaming How is objectively asking questions blaming? The question posed is very simple; who is ultimately responsible from freeing an individual from an abusive situation? I’ll ask again; who is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:25 AM

Actively choosing to spend free time together. My wife loves holidays. Once or twice a month we try and get away, and we really love those moments together. It’s great as a family too, but we prioritise the health of the relationship over that of the family because a healthy family dynamic cannot be built upon an unhealthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:25 AM
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a very reasonable fear Agreed. Objectively then does this mean a victim should stay in their abusive circumstances? redpill being about facts This is a good point. Let’s see if we can agree on just one fact; objectively who is ultimately responsible for freeing an individual from an abusive situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:15 AM
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rooted in “I told you so” I agree with this. Any advice given with the intent to belittle or diminish others is harmful. emotionally and mentally trapping them. This is a good point. Say a victim is emotionally and mentally trapped. Objectively who is ultimately responsible for freeing them from that trap?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:09 AM
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do that WITHOUT VICTIM BLAMING Agreed. Is then asking a victim what their decisions and actions were, and why they made those choices victim blaming? OJ Should fear of an outcome, stop an individual from making an objectively better decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:55 AM
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understand abuse and abuse victims instead of victim blaming Objectively, the first step to understanding abuse is to question it. Not just the actions and reactions of the abuser, but the decisions and responses of the abused too. For instance to point out all the opportunities an individual had to end the relationship? Is not victim blaming, but beneficial information towards moving forward. This is the process of Therapy; to highlight agency. It is the most efficient way to not only better un…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:38 AM

Purple Pill & BP are the only two logical destinations you can arrive to I see it slightly differently; that the logical culmination of the discussion here is agreement. What tends to cause division is debating the subjective extremes, couched as ‘nuance’.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:07 PM

the satisfaction and dopamine of buying This.. Is certainly a sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:58 PM
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acts of casual sexism The key is not the casual sexism, but whether the acts are objectively suited to one gender as opposed to the other. Breastfeeding for example. Technology has advanced where formula is a decent substitute, yet purportedly the benefits of breastfeeding is by far the optimal system. Conversely, personal safety means the capability men on average possess advantages them over women in general. Thus if an intruder enters one’s home, it is common sense to use whatever advantages …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:36 PM
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Working 8 hours 5 days a week is cruel What is the alternative? Objectively, necessity dictates. Almost all organisms come into existence fighting for life, and must continue to do so if they wish to enjoy the duration of it. Homo Sapiens are no exception. This fact is neither cruel, nor is it gendered. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:15 PM
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I rarely see men rallying Primarily because your perspective is too narrow. For instance say a society has a school. Some men decide to bomb the country where that school is located. 150 schoolgirls purportedly die. Objectively if a society cannot protect its sovereign borders, a domain nearly universally dominated by the rallying of men? The rallying around of women and children is subject to this fact. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:16 PM
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observing pigeons The key difference is applicability. For instance pigeons are observed. Theories drawn. Theories tested. Say from a group of peers. Theories either passed scrutiny, or not. Leading back to more observations. More theories. More testing. Until one has a reasonably accurate view of the world. TRP is exactly the same. We have observed a bunch of pigeons. Almost all pigeons like Strength. Physically. Emotionally. Financially and practically. So to get a ton of pigeons ‘spinning in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:08 PM
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100 The key here is scale. If we broaden the hypothetical slightly; say 100 men to 1000 women. It would more accurately reflect the current reality. The question would be how genetic variation would be passed down in such a scenario. For instance my heritage is from a tiny developing nation. Traditionally, propagating genetic variance is passed down through arranged marriages. Where lineage is a primary factor. Necessity dictates because the area parents were born in is so remote, that the only …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:54 PM
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Negging is so old Plus outdated. Joking around is fine, but to purposefully point out negatives to cause emotional volatility or prey on insecurities is a low status move. It an individual is attractive enough, negging is unnecessary. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:32 PM
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how The first step is to be as objectively self reflective as possible, as one can only effectively improve in context to their environment. So understanding as objectively as possible where one is currently is the foundation of all future outcomes. Key being an individual’s capacity for critical thought. It informs one’s worldview. The the more objective it is, the better informed their decision making is. Second, PLAN. For instance I currently have what I call My 2048 Plan. It has some really …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:56 PM
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Most men don’t become more attractive Agreed. This still does not negate the objective fact a man’s runway to become more attractive is significantly longer than his female counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:40 AM
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a prize worth wanting So you agree. Primarily because when an individual becomes attractive enough, their desirability increases. Hence they become a prize worth ‘wanting’. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:41 AM
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Phird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:23 AM
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theoretical ideal Okay. Let’s say I agree. Sole responsibility of personal safety is only a theoretical ideal. That would mean there are no realistic, practical precautions an individual can solely take to significantly mitigate risk to their personal safety. That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:17 AM
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driving a car(manual) for the first time. This is a solid analogy because a common mistake is to stall a manual transmission when first learning. Finding the friction point for smooth gear changing takes honing. Like any other skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:28 AM
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men are Men are. Primarily because the bar is simply becoming attractive enough. So in this context, objectively a man has a significantly larger runway than his female counterpart. That is the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:01 AM
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men often feel pressured Why though? Is it Anxiety? Stress? Fear? I’ve always looked at it the opposite way; I love the chase. The flirting. The butterflies. Love it all. Have I been rejected? Probably a million times. Had it been fun? Very single time, because I think fondly upon all those instances as part of my journey that have led me to where I am today. Dating. Approaching. Escalating. Is not something that is cause for fear. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:56 AM

dated for over a decade Ah got it. So more the wife than the fling. Good for both of them regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:32 AM

Interesting. In your digging did it say whether she benefitted from the deceased’s estate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:28 AM
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women are held to expectations of preparation that men are not This is a good point. Objectively, are men and women the same? Thus, should the expectations, regulations or any social hierarchy or structure be a blanket rules for all? Say, every individual is responsible for taking reasonable precautions for their own safety. That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:00 AM
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objectively true Let’s pull it apart to see. For instance upon reaching adulthood(or even prior), objectively how responsible is an individual for their own personal safety? Not at all? As an adult, one bears zero responsibility for their own personal safety? That reasonable? If not, what is reasonable? 50% responsibility? That more reasonable? What is the most reasonable amount of responsibility that an individual can take over their own personal safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:55 PM

That is a reasonable take. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:52 PM

the billions If that’s the case, I wonder how many 22 year old ‘girlfriends’ he can afford..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:44 PM

<image> This man does not look like much of a ‘prize’ hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:32 PM
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Men are not the prize. They do not at all peak at 50. Whilst I agree for most men it is not pragmatic to expect to ‘peak at 50’ objectively, if a man is valuable enough? 50? 60? Even 70 is just an age. Prime examples being De Niro and Pacino. Who were fathers again at the spritely age of 80 and 83 years old. The prime example however are not these two; it is Leo. His choices and outcomes? Objectively? Prove that if an individual’s value is high enough? He has all the choice. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:14 PM
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treat men like they are predators Is not the same as; prepare as one best can for ‘bad weather’ Yet let’s pull apart the OP and see if we can agree. For instance I agree with you that women do not need to treat men(and hopefully not me either hehe!) as inherently dangerous, sadistic predators. Instead, they should prepare as best they can for that potential outcome. From anyone. Say, at least initially by limiting the level of trust and kindness they show everyone. That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:51 PM
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yet the men have to accumulate resources Most men. Objectively the key difference is high value men can re-partner and have a new family several times over. Depending on level too, this fact has little to no bearing physically or fiscally on a man. Ask me how I know. Just kidding. It is correct that for most men, at any age dating is going to be a challenge. Conversely if a man is valuable enough, life and by default dating comes easily. Leo the ultimate example of this end of the objective scal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:34 PM
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previously I argued that men are not analogous to weather Yet objectively, this does not negate an one’s choice to prepare for both good and bad weather. This viewpoint is not only reasonable, it is smart. unless one assumes any and every man to be a predator Again, objectively an individual is responsible for their personal well being. Physically. Emotionally, mentally and financially. Fundamentally. It not only makes sense to prepare as one best can for ‘bad weather’ by assuming the potential …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:00 PM
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Okay. Let’s say one systematically overestimates their own contribution. Objectively there are numerous individuals who in similar positions or worse, but are still performing. Some even over-performing. Which means in comparison if one is dissatisfied or feeling exhausted objectively there is room for improvement. Which would negate any cause for complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:38 PM

Never!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:23 PM
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systematically overestimate our own contribution I view it the other way; we all share the same 24 hours a day. This means objectively, an individual either maximises how they use of their time; or they do not. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:20 PM

ego involved I agree with this. In what form was her ego motivating her? For instance is it reasonable to presume that the casual sex she had previously was a factor? Arguably, the primary factor in feeding her ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:07 AM

testing to see if she could still get his attention and that came at a cost Okay. So in your view it was not boredom, but attention she felt she was missing? That drove her to reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:02 AM

this last time she clearly did not feel horny Let’s say I agree. She replied purely out of boredom. If so, that would mean she had no sexual intent, and that the casual nature of their previous relationship had no bearing on her decision to reply. For instance to alleviate her boredom she could’ve chosen to text a friend. Read a book. Gone for walk. A myriad of choices. Yet her choice was to reply to a person with whom she previously shared casual relations with. That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:42 AM

engage in sexual intimacy when their brains aren’t actually craving sexual intimacy This is a good point. How intimate can a casual relationship be? Objectively, the very nature of ‘casual’ means the primary motivating factor is the use of each other’s bodies. As pointed out by the top comment. Thus intimacy, at least sexually is a secondary consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:22 AM

children if politicians Try growing up as one. Just kidding. My father wasn’t a politician, he just had a ton of friends who were. Great for connections, but geez the competitiveness when comparing us kids was horrendous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:27 AM
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Dick isn’t a valuable commodity. Most dick. The key is becoming so valuable, one’s dick becomes valuable because of who it is attached to. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:11 AM

it’s still a matter of men becoming selectable and women selecting well The key factor the OP misses is social status in relation to group. Objectively, the men at the top have the freedom of choice. The biggest cavemen. The smartest ones. Chiefs. Kings. In today’s world; CEO’s. Founders and owners. The famous etc.. This fact is both timeless and near universally applicable. TRP’s sole purpose is to empower normal men, to as similar a level of choice as an individual is capable of attaining. Blu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:56 AM

TOP COMMENT You used him out of boredom, he used you out of ease. Not worth bothering yourself over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:25 AM

CROSSPOST FROM A VENT SUB Gave bj to my casual partner and regrets it after he said something I had a casual relationship with a guy whom I stopped talking to 6 months back. He often used to text me and I used to ignore him but recently I was bored and thought of replying him. So eventually today, he ended up coming at my flat and we made out for the first time in a while but we took in on the next level where I gave him a bj and he rubbed his penis on my clitoris (not inserted)and i didn't feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:25 AM
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That is a terrible set of circumstances to find oneself in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:57 AM
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At what point When dating I had The Second Date Rule. If the first date went well from the second date onwards I was always direct that I would be seeing her exclusively, and all that entails. For me, it is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:00 PM
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all that different Okay. Say I agree. Blame is not all that different from acceptance. What is a more beneficial view towards dating; to blame women for having preferences? Or accept that women have preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:10 PM
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First, love the healthy gamer. Watched a few of Dr. K’s long form interviews on The Modern Wisdom and DOAC Podcasts. Well worth watching. There is a healthy step there, some degree of allowing yourself to blame Acceptance. Attributing blame is rarely beneficial because it focuses upon the actions of others. As opposed to focusing on oneself. Acknowledging and accepting one’s history means one can better refocus their attention from the past, towards the future. Do not externalise blame. Instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:49 AM
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Good jeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:47 PM

stopping dating That’s fine but make sure you don’t stop socialising. Especially with intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:29 AM

more than 2 drinks Yeah I’m with you. My middle kid has a soccer tournament Saturday so I’m taking her and one of her teammates. One of the wife’s besties is treating her to lunch and bottomless margaritas. She’ll have a blast but drinking like that is just not for me anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:25 AM

most awkward/weird way I was at a nephew’s wedding with my then girlfriend. This girl just kept following me around. Inserting herself into conversations. Joining in when I was paying my respects to all the elders. Dancing with me. I am generally clueless because I just presume people are out to have fun like me. I was just being polite engaging with her, so thought nothing of it. My wife the next day pointed out that girl was hitting on me all night. She pointed all the little instances(and I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:21 AM

My 17 year old and her bestie of roughy 11 years were sitting on my couch between classes(last year before college/uni), talking about careers/work. I was trying to give them advice and my daughter’s bestie replied with “yeah but Uncle Rip you haven’t worked for like a decade” and I was in shock hahaha! My eldest did point out that I do volunteer a ton, but they’re cluey enough to know it’s not the same. On the flip side my youngest just started formal education. So my Monday-Thursdays have a to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:14 AM
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the metric is The outcome. Objectively, in any endeavour it is the primary measure of success. For instance in the endeavour to acquire a partner. One falls short. What is the next step? Give up? Realign expectations or goals? Keep going? This is where the divide in viewpoint arises. Between those who perceive failure as a reason to give up, and those who perceive falling short as an opportunity to do more. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:18 PM

you will be hungry, you will be bored That is a choice. Personally I love the simplicity when cutting. Eggs and bacon for breakfast. Tuna salad lunch. Steak and vegetables for dinner. Rinse and repeat. Nutrition does not have to be unfulfilling, bland or boring. My eldest and are currently in a competition to cut before summer. Healthy decision making around food can be framed in a positive, beneficial way. If one is so inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:55 PM

Nice! Always pay yourself first was something I learned early on. It is a sure fire way to get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:48 PM

Objectively physical exercise helps. For instance personally weightlifting, going for a run or even just a walk helps me reset. Hopefully you can put in strategies to help you combat those emotions when they arise. Hope you’re feeling better soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:47 PM

politicians, powerful folk As someone who grew up around power, it is not the avoidance of accountability but public perception that dictates messaging. One can be accountable privately, yet claim no responsibility publicly. Additionally, it is impossible to acquire power without exercising some degree accountability. Objectively it is nearly impossible to rise in any system without a little self awareness, because it is fundamental when working with others. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:41 PM
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look at every player and copy everything Is better to have every tool without need for it? Or, have the need, but not the tool?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:03 AM
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case by case That’s reasonable. Again let’s say I agree. Objectively, it would then be impossible to conclude that one sex, has a physical size therefore force advantage over the other sex. For instance female over males in some species of spiders. Nor conclude this objective framework or its inverse occurs or is applicable to other species. We must weigh everything on a case by case basis. To you, this take reasonable too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:29 PM
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There is no catch all This is a decent point. Say I agree. There is no ‘catch all’. That would mean there is no objective framework one could apply to the use of force in context to individuals, communities, nations and even interspecies as well. To you, is this take reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:17 PM
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LIMITED This is a reasonable point. Objectively, how is this limit set? Rule of law a reasonable limiting factor? Subsequently if these are exceeded, objectively what is the outcome? Say one country has a large, effective fighting force. How does the rule of law limit this country from using their force? For instance; to start a war? How effective are the mechanisms for limiting force?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:27 PM
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always come back to Purpose The only issue with this is it cannot be attained from a place of scarcity. Objectively, the first building block of all life is Strength. Not just physically but mentally. Emotionally. Intellectually and practically. Financially. If lost, the first thing an individual should focus upon is building strength in the above domains. Only then will they have the resources to build their amusement park. It is that simple.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/26 09:18 PM
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take action Personally, I love marriage. Currently on my second one. I have a third woman lined up who is super keen(she flew herself in last weekend she’s that keen). The key for me was making all the traits women find attractive habit. So when my current relationship ends, I know I’ll have very little issue re-partnering.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/26 08:51 PM
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get out of my mentals The key is broadening one’s perspective sufficiently through objectivity. For instance what is better; ejaculating too fast or not ejaculating at all? Acknowledging an issue is the first step to addressing it. Next is accepting factors you cannot change, then finally pouring your mental energy into the factors you can change. Medical advice. Diet. Pelvic floor exercises(kegels). Viagra. Meditation. There is a myriad of options to address this specific issue. The first step …
/r/TheRedPill02/03/26 08:40 PM
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something else I second choosing your own long term outcome as defined by you. As someone who’s been divorced and is currently married to me it wasn’t too bad. Yes, the cost ran into the six figures. I also acquired experience, insight and knowledge. Which is invaluable. Personally, when this marriage ends I’ll most likely do it again(even have one already lined up). I’d even be open to having more kids. You just have to determine what will bring you happiness and fulfilment. A family and kids? …
/r/TheRedPill02/03/26 08:19 PM
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No eyes on the rich please. Just kidding. As someone who’s benefitted from Nepotism it’s clear that corruption is a feature, not a bug. If an individual is capable enough, they can say and do the most heinous of things and still end up in a very cushy office. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:22 PM
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protect peace How? What is the primary tool that protects peace, justice and the freedoms an individual or society enjoys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:19 PM

men haven’t built a body positivity movement Primarily because it is unnecessary. Objectively, most guys from boyhood onwards understand that societies operate on hierarchies. One’s capacity in any domain will determine how far up that hierarchy they can go. Body positivity directly contradicts this fact, by espousing that being fat is ‘positive’ when in reality being slim to jacked is far more beneficial. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:13 PM

as the male of any species in this kingdom one of our major goals is to be chosen Is to survive via adaptive reproduction. Objectively this is the basis for all species, and being ‘chosen’ is still a fairly recent adaptation in context to body positivity. Hence why height, muscles, and being physically capable is still a very attractive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:33 AM
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They’re work I’ll probably be in the minority but as an extrovert I love planning, accepting invitations or even just the idea of a get together. Parties. Celebrations. Even just dinner. Love it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:10 AM
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Option 1 As an extrovert I derive a ton of emotional and social fulfilment outside of a relationship. My besties I’ve had since age 5 and I meet at least once a month. Usually for drinks, dinner and a little debauchery. If my partner and I do not or connect at even a minimum level, I’m good. Additionally, hypothetically if money was a factor that would be primary determining factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:08 PM
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People should mitigate risk as much as possible Should people not mitigate risk? This, to you, is reasonable? Additionally, how is viewing the OP as objectively as possible viewing it either nonsensically or in a ‘vacuum’?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:26 PM
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it’s moved to an extreme that’s outside the scope of the post. Then the scope of the post is subjectively too narrow. That lacks the objectivity necessary for practical application. For instance women specifically are not the only ones to build their lives around preventing instances of assault. Almost all humans by default build their lives to negate the risk of not only assault, but as many negative outcomes as foreseeable. This fact scales too. From an individual, to a family, to a nation. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:39 PM
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the only way to guarantee you never get assaulted This is a solid point. Let’s say I agree. By this logic no one has ever been, or will ever be assaulted in their own home. This reasonable? If not, what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:05 AM
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if he lowers his standards enough This is purportedly the issue men complain about; regardless of their standards they are not getting laid. Let alone getting laid a bunch. Purportedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:23 AM
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ask women to pay for dates Whilst I never asked for women to pay, my default first date invite was always either a morning coffee date with a walk, or a training ‘date’ and coffee after. Low investment. Low pressure. Worked a charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:58 AM
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tempermental and personality trait Do you view these traits as immutable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:54 AM
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sadistic actions forced upon them This is a good point. Objectively, if an individual can take reasonable to extreme precautions to prevent anyone from forcing any actions upon them; should they be responsible for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:47 AM
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First, thank you for your candor. Please if you don’t want to answer the next few questions don’t. I am curious because I come from the compete opposite end of the spectrum. So love learning about other viewpoints. Do you think you can or will get to the point of having no anxiety?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:40 AM
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women should not be told to “take responsibility”. Agreed. They should just take responsibility. Objectively, an individual is responsible for their personal well being. Physically. Emotionally. Fiscally. Fundamentally. Analogies are fine, but this is the reality. It is the most pragmatic basis upon which to build one’s worldview. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:29 AM
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not as much Are you at a stage where it has no impact at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:21 AM
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disciplined Simplicity is key. In any endeavour, simply break it down into steps you know you will complete. Even if that first step is just putting your runners on. Rinse and repeat, then build from there. Discipline is skill. That can become habit. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:18 AM
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That’s interesting. If I may ask, is it still an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:14 AM
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That’s beautiful. Boys, buns and bonding hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:14 AM
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her anxieties Genuine question; how much do you allow the anxiety of others to impact your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:11 AM

certified ugly who has struggled so much with dating Genuine question; objectively, how many men do you think you could attract for a one night stand? 5 different guys? One? Zero?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:09 AM
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CROSSPOST FROM A WHAT SHOULD I DO SUB My boyfriend told me he used to be a pornstar I (23f) have been with my boyfriend (27m) for around 3 months. Everything is going great he’s physically the ideal man for me but last night he said “I don’t know how you will react to this but I used to be a pornstar” I laughed and thought he was joking at first but he said he was being serious he started off making amateur videos with his ex girlfriend and then they started “collabing” with other pornstars and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:35 PM
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it depends on the cost This is a good point. Say an individual pursues an endeavour, with the hope and belief that they’ll potentially achieve a certain outcome. Dedicates their entire life to it. They fall short. Objectively, have they misused or wasted their time? Was the cost too great? winning the lottery This is the perfect example. Does an individual regardless of the odds, buy a lottery ticket with the hopes of winning? Or refuse to buy a ticket, because of those same odds? There in lies …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:25 AM
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more likely that you won’t have enough time in your lifetime to achieve it. This is a good point. Does this then mean that one should not be open to the possibility? That if time is the only limitation, that one should not pursue an endeavour because it is nearly impossible it will be achieved within one’s lifetime? That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:21 AM
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Life is good. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:19 AM
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a lot of guys here are genuinely interested in getting laid. If so, then their outcomes will reflect just how genuine their interest actually is in that endeavour. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:18 AM
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it’s a scale Agreed. Objectively though your scale by default must have two extreme, opposing ends. Hence the binary premise. not open to EVERYTHING Why not? Take cancer research. Or travelling at the speed of light. At what point should an individual not be open to everything? Objectively at what point does reality and belief, does reality and hope intersect? After the fact? Or beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:05 AM
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It sets people to disappointment and bitching Okay. Let’s say I agree. That being open to what is possible sets people to bitching and disappointment. Is that the only outcome? If not, what is the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:53 AM
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Whilst I agree being realistic is important, being open to what is possible? However unlikely? Is just as beneficial. One must live in hope, lest life becomes a living hell. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:34 PM
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it is already arguably correctly perceived as creepy to attend these primarily to make romantic connections If the interest is genuine, then the connections will follow. Romantic and otherwise. Whilst I’m always a proponent for being direct with intent, socialising in general is about broadening not only depth but breadth of connection. So any event where people gather of a purpose other than ‘dating’ should be the focus. From there, one picks up cues and information as to how best to proceed. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:17 PM

financial equal I’ll be in the minority but financial assets were a key factor in me choosing my wife. She owned a few apartments(one outright), so had at least some semblance of a portfolio. Which to me was important, because all the women previous to her had mortgages and whilst financially sound were not at as far ahead as her. That said we do not commingle finances. Though we do share an accountant who is great. She has sole ownership of all marital assets which at the moment is just our cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:29 PM
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I’m in my ‘polo shirt’ era this decade. It’s fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:15 PM
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ain’t like we are choosing to be a sub Yet do you not have choice as to how you adapt to your circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:13 PM
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victim blaming accountability Objectively, whilst boundaries matter what is far more fundamental is one’s ability to enforce them. For instance a person makes up their mind. Say Tit size. Or Rape. If another individual does not possess the ability to enforce their own boundaries in response? The outcome is going to be.. Unpalatable. That is not victim blaming. It is objective reality. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:11 PM
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require compromise on both sides Agreed. This is the key. Of all my mentors, the best have always been effective, attuned listeners. The absolute best? Intuitively so. Additionally, good leaders actively encourage objective criticism. As it is the most effective tool to test the veracity of a choice before committing to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:58 PM

The drive to dominate is a good quality in a litigator The post does not read this way. Russel makes decisions without consultation(nor it appears oversight). Is driven to reassert his position regardless of relevance. Appears to lack a modicum of humility. Conversely almost all the lawyers I know are shrewdly discreet. Thus if attributing good qualities to litigating? Dominance, at least overtly, would appear to be a somewhat risqué factor. being conscious of your own behaviour is a helpful ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:13 PM
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Nah. Even the ugliest man in the world pulls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:16 PM
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extracting resources from men My wife is an ace at this. We settled our most recent lease two years ago. We’re upgrading again. We’re also in the market for a hobby farm, because she had horses growing up and wants them for our kids. She’s worth every dollar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:39 PM
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entitled to the continuation of that system Objectively, all systems are subject to their ability to retain autonomy. Entitlement is a secondary factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:18 PM
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looks Whilst looks are fundamental, objectively there’s a ton that can be done to negate flaws and maximise strengths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:16 PM
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it’s Monday Love Mondays. One of my favourite podcasts is Eric Thomas The HipHop Preacher, who does TGIM’s on his show. Always grateful. Even on Mondays.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:14 PM
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an effective way to get a second look There are billions of women on the face of planet. No man needs to settle for a ‘second’ look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:11 PM
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flirting has been in person The key is Plausible Deniability. e.g. ‘We were just hanging out after work’. ‘ ‘We went for a few drinks’. ‘He just wanted me to check out his outfit/socks/plausible reason to head back to the room.’ ‘I don’t know what happened.’ Practice escalating to sex with other women. So by the time you meet this one again, you’ll have your process dialled in. Godspeed and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:09 PM
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Oh my hehehe! My pride gets in the way of my stooping..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:01 PM
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I feel attacked. Just kidding. I know a neurosurgeon, and for the most he’s quite a humble guy. Does a ton of pro bono stuff through his foundation. You raise a good point though; every narcissist is some charming manipulative CEO If we presume Twin 1 is right at the most extreme end on a scale of narcissism, then he is not only going to get more dates but he’s going to burn through relationships. Until he no longer has options, or settles on a relationship that feeds his narcissism and ego. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:55 PM
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The details of the contest can vary. Agreed. Equally true though is that there are some details that stay the same. For instance the status of Kings. Their outcomes regardless of context are almost identical to that of other kings. In different cultures, nations and even different eras of history. Today? CEO’s and owners. Comparably similar statuses. Almost identical outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:43 PM

Best wishes my guy! Hope you get what you need out of reconnecting! Godspeed and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:00 PM

post history Checking out someone’s post history is wild! That’s a lot of investment in random internet strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:58 PM

But it’s mainly men Objectively, gender is irrelevant to your point. If an individual devalues the meaning of sex by partaking in or just desiring the act casually, they by default cannot ‘feel love through sex’. You, by the rationale of your own post must agree with this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:44 PM
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modernity has turned this into a male status contest It is not hard to say; objectively, there has always been male status contests. Just because some perceive the current dynamic as harder, does not negate the competition our ancestors endured to successfully procreate. Additionally, I’d take all the ‘hardships’ of today over any other period of time in human history. As with it comes all modern privileges as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:31 PM

I don’t understand how guys don’t under they’re devaluing the meaning of sex by wanting casual sex I agree with this point 100%. It is also not gendered. For instance say a woman devalues the meaning of sex because she partakes in casual sex. Does that then mean she cannot ‘feel love through sex’? That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:20 PM
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unprecedented levels of difficulty Why is this a bad thing? As a species we either adapt, or die. This fact scales right down too. Additionally, TRP is not censored. Objectively an individual is free to espouse whatever view they wish. If they’re willing to bear the consequences. One can ‘grab em by the pussy’ and state so publicly, yet still find themselves sitting in a very comfy office. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:36 AM
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on a lowest possible scale This is a good example. Let’s pull it apart to see if we can agree. Say an individual broke into your car, but left it exactly as you did so you were unaware. Objectively does your ignorance negate their power to enter or exit your car as they wish?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:33 PM

Social systems aren’t “built upon merit” they’re hammered out by winners This is a good point. Objectively, does the merit of the actions these winners take not produce their outcome? Hence your winners only win by the merit of their ‘hammering’? Furthermore objectively, is this fact not widely accepted as the case since prehistoric times? Pertinent still, today? Additionally, are scheming and plotting not tools? Or do you discount soft power too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:24 PM
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That is a good point. My error. Interchange it with childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:14 PM
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Humankind has ascended from animals The primary reason this is false is because it is not civility, nor the rule of law that governs individuals or our species at a global scale; it is the implied threat of violence. Of force. Hence the term enforcement. For instance mutually assured destruction. Morality is not a factor. That is the reality. The only thing that has ascended are the tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:17 PM
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Ukraine I agree with this take. The issue is not the draft. The issue is not even Feminism. If a society cannot defend it’s borders? Objectively it is subject to the force of a nation that can. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:12 PM
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every person you walk past COULD be a possibility, leading to Opportunity. There are two sides to every coin. If one is always looking at a glass half empty? It will rarely be seen as full. Which is quite a pessimistic mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:41 PM
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staring back from sixty years The Patriarchy does not endure because we do not live in a patriarchy, and have not since we were huddled together in caves. It has been, is, and always will be a meritocracy. Objectively, all social systems are built upon the merit of the actions of that society. Which is not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:34 PM
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I prefer women without children, because I am childfree After my first divorce, I presumed being a single dad wood preclude me from dating single, childfree women. I was wrong. I’m now confident when my marriage ends, I won’t struggle to find another childfree woman. Possibly have even more(love kids). So that is and will be my ‘preference’ from here on out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:04 PM
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I look at it a little more holistically. Do more women want a man to be good because he is a husband? Or before he is one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:58 PM
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Which protein In college I used to do roughly 150-200gms through eggs, canned tuna, ground beef, frozen bulk fish and chicken(also towards the end could afford bulk porterhouse). My meal prep was 6-8 eggs fo breakfast. 2 tins of tuna in a salad(kewpie mayo, lettuce and cucumbers). Then whatever fish or meat with dinner. It hit 175gms easy and was reasonably inexpensive. Also depending if I was bulking I used to have a bean mix(chick peas, lentils, four bean mix mixed in with a can baked beans fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:47 PM
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Enjoy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:34 PM
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Nope. Being a good person is my priority. A husband is only one hat I wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:33 PM
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work-zipping Sorry buzz/shave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:05 AM
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to try find a woman In context to workable strategies the goal should be to broaden one’s options, not narrow them down. A bald, skinny guy should work zip his head and get bigger. Hone social skill. Make bank. Then once he’s got options think about vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 07:04 PM
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Hola my fellow rugby player hehe! I wouldn’t call myself a sewer. I’ve only done some hems, tried to bring in the leg on an old pair of dress pants, and tried to make some pocket squares. Will have to check out Modish Rugger for sure! Thanks for the tip!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:27 AM
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I look at it as empowering. Fail or succeed? Not many, if any care. Which I find liberating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:39 PM
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Damn. That is an interesting take. I don’t really relate to victimhood but the rationale that it is rooted in selfishness makes senses. So too though is the remedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:13 PM
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posting more BS Looking at these posts objectively the core theme appears the relationship between attraction and sex. Which is valid. The issue is these posts only seem to look at the issue from one standpoint. As opposed to be open to other perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:00 PM
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prefer a man who has a fashion sense For the longest I didn’t really bother with this, because Monday to Friday it was standard business attire, and weekends played rugby so rugby shorts were(and still are) my ‘comfy’ clothes. My ex wife never commented on my clothes so I presumed fashion wise I was doing okay. I was not. My now wife hated that I wore rugby shorts and singlets everywhere. That I only had formalwear and suits, and one pair of jeans. So she started filling out my wardrobe. Tangelo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:55 PM
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time with family This I found is a very common factor; tight knit family. For instance I have a bigger family. As a result we’re always together. So babysitting isn’t an issue. Moving. Employment. Sense of belonging. We have birthdays/weddings/anniversaries/gatherings pretty much every weekend. So most weekends it’s a party not just for the adults but all the kids too. For me, it was a key factor right after attraction and compatibility. My wife is beloved by her sister and brothers. We are both…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:39 PM

I’m conflicted on whether to get therapy Confronting oneself is an extremely painful and hard experience. It is also objectively one of the most liberating processes one can undertake. Your post speaks of jadedness. Of limitation. Of the least of what you currently are. Yet nothing of what you aspire to be. Therapy. Counselling. Faith. Are all just tools to towards building the type of life you want to lead. You are not confused. You just don’t want to change. Make a plan. Then execute. It is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:47 PM

way lower than I would’ve guessed I might be totally wrong. The black figure of crime too obscures accuracy too. Though on the balance of probabilities I’d err on the side of what is more probable. That there is only a handful of people stupid enough to risk their livelihoods and liberty. Yet I again I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:22 PM
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that’s not nuanced and it lacks adequate explanation The issue is nuance is only beneficial when it provides objective context. e.g. “Did you consent to going to his place?” “Did you consent to going to bed?” “At any point during coitus did you say stop?” “Say no?” Objective ‘nuance’ that aids credibility. As opposed to a catchy slogan.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:20 PM

abandoned bank monkey I saw a video of a chimp eating the babies of a defeated rival. Live. For all our civility we are yet still savage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:54 PM
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women need to be more articulate Direct. Here or in general; if one cannot simplify their point right down to the base facts? No amount of articulation will aid their argument. For instance if Feminism is the empowerment of women towards equality, that is the primary context in which all discourse is framed. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:45 PM
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one big headache I look at it the other way; with curiosity. For instance how fundamental is sex to a healthy relationship? If it has no bearing, then men’s desire for it to feel ‘loved’ is irrelevant. If it is fundamental, then to what extent? It kills relationships? Destroys love? Or perhaps it is a boiling frog factor. Where the temperature keeps rising and rising, until one or both parties get burnt. I find it fascinating, because asking these questions helps me clarify my own perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:37 PM

spend their free time here Have you seen some of the comments here? It is not only hilarious, but much too entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:32 PM

Whilst sad two individual who cannot or choose not to acquire sufficient self awareness, should not be having kids together. That poor baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:29 PM

go to the comments I rarely go to the comments and when I have it’s for links to stuff. People sticking their business right out there is no business of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:20 PM

Hope you’re doing okay and getting the rest you need. Take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:18 PM

What percentage This is just a guess but I’d say less than 1%. The key is perspective. For instance how many corrections officers would there be in The UK? Let’s say 20,000. How many of those officers would make similarly poor decisions? 1,000 of them? 2,000? Though possible, it is highly improbable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:16 PM
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”Choose better” and “watch what they do The luxury of choice sets up a dilemma; if a woman matches with a man who is attractive enough and wants to make him wait? He is not going to be bothered by it. Conversely if she sleeps with him, she is still subject to his continuing on the relationship in any context. Presumably an undesirable outcome too. Women have the right to choose either way. This however does not negate the dilemma of that choice. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:25 PM
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interfere with basic functioning This is the key; objectively outcomes supersede accommodations. This is primarily in the private sector, but if an individual cannot perform ultimately they don’t last long. If basic functioning is compromised, then presumably so too is one’s higher functioning. Which is rarely profitable. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:17 AM
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if she doesn’t sleep with you on the first date she’s not into you Unfortunately it is a lose-lose for women. For instance if a man is attractive enough and a woman wants to make him ‘wait’? That is not going to bother him. Conversely if she sleeps with him, she is still subject to his desire to continue on the relationship in any context. Which I would imagine is not an ideal outcome for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:03 PM
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Okay. Let’s say I agree. A victim is st an advance age, with trauma stemming from experiences decades past. Does that then mean there is no possibility of rehabilitation? If not, what is the outcome? Medicate the symptoms away? That vet resigned to being a perpetual victim? Conversely if there is a possibility of rehabilitation, what does the process of returning that vet back to or as close to full function entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:51 PM
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some never resolve at all This is a good point. What is an example of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:39 PM
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Hold Space for Male Victims Genuine question; why? At what point is one no longer a victim? Objectively can one reconcile their trauma sufficiently that they no longer identify as a victim? Or is that impossible? Once one experiences trauma, are they are perpetually a victim? If not, what is the difference between a victim and someone who is no longer a victim? I’m all for supporting those who suffer, but to what end? Holding space is only beneficial if it is in pursuit of an individual no longe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:57 PM

Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:07 PM

My friend, if you think debating your point useless? That is fine. Thank you though. For the attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:44 AM

Okay. Let’s pull it apart and see where you and are disagree? You stated life is not ‘designed’. I agreed. That one’s life by default is not designed, and that instead one must exercise their agency to ‘design’ and attain the life they desire. That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:45 AM

entirely irrelevant How so? The existence of ‘a bar’ by default establishes a parameter by which an individual can view the world. For instance below ‘the bar’ or above it. Is that not a direct use of one’s agency? Hence, by their own ‘design’ one views the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:21 AM
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if the differential between the sexes were nullified I agree with this take. I made a similar point above; objectively it is reasonable that for most normal women, sex is not overly difficult to acquire. Conversely for most normal men? It is somewhat more difficult to attain. Hence the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:50 PM

Life was not designed Agreed. It is designed. By you. Objectively, whilst some factors are immutable there also a ton of factors that are. Hence the importance of agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:39 PM
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worth less as a person Whilst morally a noble ideal, objectively all lives differ in value. For instance how hard is it for an average woman to have sex? It is reasonable that for most normal women, sex is not overly difficult to acquire. Conversely for a normal man? Again, reasonable to conclude sex is somewhat more difficult to acquire. Hence the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:48 PM

I need a nap My youngest just started school, so I no longer have a ‘day nap’ buddy. Which whilst sad does means I do get my king bed back to myself hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:47 PM

Losing the weight First, good work almost 150lbs. That is over a 1/3 of who you used to be! A ton of people will try to diminish you as a person, do not be one of them. Second, you self aware enough to change. Not want. Not hope. Actually change. As you’ve already achieved so much. You’ve done a fantastic job so far. Keep being kind to yourself, and keep going. You’re killing it! Godspeed and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:44 PM

Happy Lunar New Year y’all! Wishing good fortune to you all!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:35 PM
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I came across the viewpoint via Kevin Samuels, because I never paid much attention to it previously. As my process in viewing most things is to simplify everything down to the root cause. So rarely noticed S.I.G.N. language because my goal is always to simplify down to base fact. I suspect people who use that kind of language have issues. I’m not perfect, but I know myself well enough not to react emotionally because it is a waste of effort. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:06 PM
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Rest in Power K.S.!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:00 PM
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Love that quote!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:55 PM

I was at my weekly playgroup another dad and I host for our 10 year old girls and roughly 10 of their friends. Another dad rocked up with a 5 week old baby. We were smitten. Talking with him, I asked him what was his favourite part. His answer? “Just looking at her”. He had 6 weeks paternity leave, and he said it’s just flown by. I think about it the same way too. I have a 17 year old. She’ll be 18 soon. Has already asked to rent one of her grandfather’s flats with one of her cousins, to save ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:40 PM
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so is everyone I look at it slightly differently; it doesn’t matter to me how real life operates because I’m getting mine. It is why I’m such an optimist. Life may have challenges, but it has it’s fair share of opportunities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:35 PM
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new city New hobbies. What’s something you’ve wanted to try? Something you wanted to get better at? Then find that community. If it doesn’t exist? Build it. With change comes opportunity. Seize it. Godspeed and good luck!
/r/TheRedPill16/02/26 09:41 PM
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the only solution is for men to become Better. Becoming more picky, when one already has limited options is a poor strategy. Conversely, focusing on broadening one’s ability to match but also convert those matches into real world relationships is a far more practical solution. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:11 PM
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outcome bias This is a good point. This is anecdotal but as a perfectionist the outcome is always framed by the process, because the outcome is rarely sufficiently acceptable. Thus even when the outcome cannot be changed, the process is still heavily criticised. Good and bad. disagree with the question How so? I think that good decision making can still lead to bad outcomes. There’s a well known Star Trek quote about this. I also accept that bad decisions can lead to objectively good outcomes. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:13 AM
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the only way to know you are desirable Whilst I agree that it is one fairly straightforward way to know one’s level of desirability, it is not the only way. For example it was Valentine’s Day recently. Without being too lewd, my wife and I are very happy. That, is certainly a tried and tested alternative to casual relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:51 PM
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Personally? Wholeheartedly. I would classify anything that is not the optimal or desired outcome as ‘bad’. Or as the perfectionist in me dubs it; insufficient. It’s also one of the reasons I struggle with stopping. As there is always room for innovation/improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:26 PM
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ensure the outcome This is the point of not only a meritocracy, but a functioning society. What healthy society does not try to ensure outcomes? That makes no sense. We as a species don’t plan to fail, but to ensure success. Objectively, this premise scales from an individual level, right up to the national level and beyond. The merit of one’s actions determines their outcomes. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:21 PM
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there’s no objective way to measuring an individual’s “merit”. There is; by their outcomes. Objectively, all action is undertaken towards an optimal or desired outcome. Breathe? Stay alive. Work? Get paid. Lift weights? Get stronger etc.. It is why I’m proud to be one of the biggest proponents of a meritocracy on here. As viewing society as a meritocracy empowers agency. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:12 PM

when you find out This is the key; discerning age. For instance a 14 year old lies and says they’re 18. Objectively, there is no way to tell. Attraction is relative. Objectively an individual may be attractive. Without further or more importantly accurate information however? One can only act on what is known. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:14 AM
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They aren’t innate. They’re learned and socially enforced. The primary reason ‘icks’ or preferences are innate is because there is a physiological difference between the sexes. The primary physical difference being Strength. Using it as the rationale, it is common sense that masculine traits that can be gauged by strength are going to be attractive. For instance is it more beneficial to be physically strong? Or not? Emotionally strong? Or not? Socially, financially or intellectually strong? Or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:59 PM
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What is the basis for believing this Widely spread observations of objective reality. For instance is it more beneficial to be physically strong? Or not? Emotionally strong? Or not? Socially strong? Or not? Objectively, Strength is the fundamental difference between the two sexes. It is common sense that this difference not only delineates the physical reality between the sexes, but also a ton of subsequent factors too. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:46 PM
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It comes with a caveat The primary reason there is no caveat is because even for top tier men, being more masculine is always going to attract more women than less. Soft, feminine men are the niche, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:36 PM
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a cheat code to ALL Most women. Which is straightforward enough. If a man is strong, physically, emotionally, mentally, fiscally, socially, and to a healthy extent egotistically? They are going to attract more women than less. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:28 PM

Happy Valentine’s Day y’all!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:23 PM
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there aren’t really many arguments left Except for the fact that initially, attraction is amoral. Humans are primarily visual. So even if there are digital pictures online, and witty, flirty banter shared? One’s first impression in reality is still the key determining factor. Which negates whether an individual is noble, genuine and virtuous, pretending or aspiring to be, or are simply just villains. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:14 PM
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therapy culture First, I’m a big a proponent for therapy/counselling. That said, the key outcome is Objectivity. Which one can attain a multitude of ways. Therapy and counselling. Mentorship. Sharing with close ones. Journalling. Self reflection. Self driven deep research. Presumably now A.I. too. Therapy is just one tool towards the goal of widening perspective. practice what they preach This is the key. As soon as anyone starts to attribute blame, or generalise their personal behaviours to avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:44 PM
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He is the a TRP end product. Does your critique of morality include RPChristians? MarriedRedPill? Redpillwomen? Or is the scope of your moral criticism.. Limited? It is not immoral to view The SMP as objectively as possible. If anything, to view sexual dynamics amorally is one of the most honest ways to frame relationships there is. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:03 PM
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Sexual strategy isn’t amoral The primary reason sexual strategy is amoral is because there are different definitions of morality. There was a link recently in the UK sub about NHS workers being asked to police their language surrounding marriages between first cousins, and the subsequent genetic risks. Morally? It’s permissible in that religion/culture. Objectively? Different rationale. To limit sexual strategy to what is moral is a narrow framing, and not conducive to objectivity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:44 PM
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inspire sinfully erotic urges The example is poor because the difference is still sex. Just because both parties are delaying gratification, does not mean it is not a priority. If anything, that delayed gratification highlights just how fundamental sex is to a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:45 PM
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That’s a great read, and if true sufficiently accurate. Objectively life is a measure of input and outcomes. One thing it misses though is the span of information between Rollo and Tate. The Sidebar includes The Rational Male, but not exclusively so. Models. 48 Laws. The Way of The Superior Man. Numerous resources. Which is why retaining a critical lens is fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:51 PM
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The sub itself. Though I’m more of a reader so that presumably contributes to the fact I don’t know much about the grifters of TRP. Fresh & Fit I think are grifters. Top G Cobra Tate too. Most normal folk however can spot those two a mile away. There’s probably more, but my rule is if they want money they’re not getting mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:28 PM
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tying anything to looks No one is making that connection. The statement was; Hence the delineation between appearances, status and social skills as factors. Meaning, there is a difference between the three factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:31 AM
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Bots swiping Soon we’ll have AI agents setting up dates with other AI agents no one turning up in real life haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:26 AM
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You appear to be more knowledgeable about the grifters, so I’ll defer to your list if you want to enlighten us all. I simply posited my guiding parameter for information regarding TRP. Never paid for it, never will. It’s a rule that’s served me, and others similar to me quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:22 AM
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List them off! It’s more efficient to delineate by cost. If there is payment involved? The information more than likely can be found for free elsewhere. Even then, it’s beneficial to interpret ‘free’ information with a critical lens. So one’s worldview does not stray too far into the extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:01 AM
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what comes out Is still downstream from appearance and status as factors though. Hence the delineation between appearance, status and social skills as factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:02 PM
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small town pastors wife The premise scales even further. Say the pastor and his wife then have a son. Socially, what would be a common ‘status’ for that child? That is another example of the social construct at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:56 PM
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dismiss every example No one has dismissed the example. Testing your point means pulling it apart. Say, by establishing the counter point. Then comparing them. For instance the point is it is not illogical to prioritise traits outside of looks. The counter would then be; when is it logical to prioritise looks? As I’ve stated above, it is the norm. Where does this reasoning dismiss the example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:44 PM
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spear the ego Possibly. Regardless though the objective premise remains. The primary mode of gaining status is via communication. Either directly or indirectly. Status can be gained without even being in the same room as others. So it is erroneous to tie it directly to social skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:17 PM
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I’m not arguing that people arent attracted to looks That statement is cold, hard logic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:11 PM
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status ultimately boils down to money Whilst objectively resources are a necessity, status in context to attraction is independent of money primarily because it is a social construct. The struggling artist. The unheralded metal band. Objectively not wealthy, yet within their niche communities possess status Or volunteers. Finances aside, the status within a community is significant. Other forms of status exists within smaller groups such as families. Hard, authoritarian fathers. Black sheep’s. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:06 PM
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it’s the premise that’s weak Okay. Let’s say I agree. If the premise is weak, the logic by default must too be weak. How important is appearance in attraction? For instance most would agree it is fundamental. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:42 PM
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women not understanding that logical process Agreed. Another reply made a similar point that deductive reasoning is not gendered. It however is critical to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:31 PM
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If I come across a guy who’s too perfectly hot, my attraction You then would be an exception. Especially in the age of casual sex, when a sufficiently attractive man has very little issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:23 PM
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sexual connection is made up of more than L/M/S Yet it is not made without them. Specifically, looks(though I don’t think too many women are banging panhandlers either). TRP simply frames appearance, money and status as beneficial tools. An objectively reliable framework from which an individual can build towards their desired outcomes. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:15 PM
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your error is in gendering I agree with this. I always aim for objectivity, so whenever I’m entertaining ideas here broaden my perspective as widely as possible. To see how widely applicable an idea is. It is why no one can argue about the core tenets of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:10 PM
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is that the limit of attraction? For most normal humans objectively it is the limit, as it is one end on the scale of attraction. Humans are predominantly visual creatures. This fact means appearance is fundamental to attraction, and why first impressions are pivotal. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:55 PM
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the vague one: status I frame it simply as a proxy for social skills/communication, because ‘status’ is what is communicated about you. Objectively it can be communicated directly from you e.g. how you dress, physique, the area you live in, demeanour, the words you use, carriage etc.. Or from others, who either know or know of you e.g. fame, word of mouth, networks etc.. Both strategies require a solid ability to understand one’s place within a group, and the ability to communicate to others tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:48 PM
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by selling If one is buying TRP, the issue is not TRP. Grifters exist in every domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:38 PM
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As someone familiar with divorce I agree with the OP. Sure, in a modern democracy common law partners entitles an individual to similar benefits. One thing it does not entitle an individual to is the identity an individual acquires when marrying into a family. For instance my wife is known as Mrs Ripper. Our kids are all Rippers. My brothers, cousins, uncles and all our family are known as Rippers. Which means our networks are significantly vast, and quite diverse. Which is hugely beneficial. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:45 AM
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she’s a narcissistic monster who ruined my life Whilst we do not control our beginning, a normal, fully functioning adult does control their present and future circumstances. That’s not to diminish the impact parents do or do not have, it’s fundamental. It also is negated by exercising individual agency. Blame shifts responsibility. Another person may be responsible for causing trauma. Only one person however is responsible for addressing it. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:21 PM
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men would NOT have it hard in dating. Survival of the fittest. Determined how? Adaptability to adversity. That is not just a universally based reality for our species, but all species. Difficulty settings are a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:12 PM
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women are pretty great Can confirm. Women, for the most are absolutely fantastic. I adore all the women in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:10 PM
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sense of identity onto it. Objectively when one overly invests their sense of identity into one domain it narrows perspective. I used to have this issue with work/money. To a degree still do. It’s The Tom Brady Mentality. No one batted an eyelid when I pulled 80+ hour weeks, and Brady is venerated as The G.O.A.T. If one is locked in on having sex to whatever level sates their desires? More power to them. Life realigns one’s perspective, eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:31 PM
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heterosexuality as being the “default” Presumably the OP is defining ‘sexuality’ without the physical reality, because at a biological level it is the imperative of all species to procreate. Exceptions do not make the rule. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:17 PM
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all the other pills I stick black pill in with blue, because dropping out of The SMP is no strategy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:48 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM WHATDO SUB I am furious at my girlfriend and don’t know if I can take steps legally For context: I (28M) live in a small house with my gf (27F). I have a full time job, and she does not work. She works occasional odd jobs with her aunt, but does not make stable income. Thus, we are not made of money. More context: After necessities, I like to spend some leftover money on my aquarium. This is a very important hobby to me. I have a large 55 gallon freshwater tank- there’s about 30 f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:01 AM
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Respect is earned Agreed. Which objectively contradicts; you are expected to treat your fellow human beings respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:03 PM
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you are expected to treat your fellow human beings respectfully Unfortunately life, and subsequently society does not work this way. If it did, an individual as soon as it is born could expect respect. The reality is an individual is subject to the circumstances they were born into. Respect, just like charity is a luxury. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:35 PM
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you can easily tell who has money to date and who doesn’t I agree with this. I’m not rich but I am comfortable. Why am I expected to pay for someone else’s ‘preparation’ costs? Does that mean they’re reimbursing my Rogue rack? I do weights primarily because I enjoy being physically strong. Women often espouse that cosmetics are not to impress the male gaze. So why should men pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:11 PM

Every single human The vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:40 AM

as long as you find them even somewhat attractive First. As much as personality matters, objectively humans are predominantly visual animals. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:13 AM
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By going on dates Not even. If attraction is reciprocated, I prioritised exclusivity. As in match/first date then second date I am direct about exclusivity. This is obviously anecdotal, but almost all the women I dated appreciated me being upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:43 AM
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Not so much cause for concern but I had a second date rule. I don’t sleep around, but I also enjoy sex. By the second date we almost always had sex, and I was clear that it was always exclusively so. If they weren’t into the idea no worries. It was only a date or two. Most however were eager for presumably both the sex, and the exclusivity. Worked well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:13 PM
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look 50 when you are 35 My wife suffers from the opposite; no one picks that she’s in her 30’s. She does spend quite a bit on cosmetics, but she is tiny so looks younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:53 PM
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jokes can be used to normalise Jokes can also be used to criticise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:54 AM
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not at all the same thing as holding the job. Presumably then he won’t see out the term. Meaning another individual capable of winning an election replaces him. Who may be capable of holding the job. If not? The premise is again applicable. This is objective reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:43 AM
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What actually happen is that a few loudmouths Capable individuals leverage their capabilities to attain, and retain power. For instance how incapable can an individual be, and still become president? Twice? Objectively, the common factor in all social systems throughout all of history and presumably preceding it is capability. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:26 AM
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It was Is a class issue. The question to ask is not who is oppressing who; but who benefits? It is commercially more beneficial to have two people working than one. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:11 AM
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Meritocracy should be Is the basis for all life. This fact is timeless because the merit of actions by individuals both singularly and in groups, is the primary determining factor towards their outcomes. Tribe of cavemen had no fire? Or are poor hunters? Winter comes they’re dying at a higher rate than the neighbouring tribe that can hunt. Can cook. Today, if a country possesses Jericho Missiles? A neighbouring group that does not have that capability? Is at their mercy. Or if a government has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:56 AM
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powered exoskeleton technology I am predicting that the technology will skip the ‘exoskeleton’ stage, as fiscally it makes more sense. Why pay a human, when soon an automaton will be able to perform a myriad of tasks? It’s an exciting time to be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:38 AM
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intrusive thoughts Can you explain what these are? I’ve never really understood how people suffer from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:00 AM
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a better experience Be the change!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:59 PM
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So that’s how I look from behind haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:58 PM
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have to compete This is why I cannot relate to arguments that deride how society operates. From either side. The objective baseline is that all life competes. From ants, to comparing organic intelligence to its artificial counterpart. Using this basis, an individual can accurately assess then determine the most efficient strategy towards their goals. Resources. Relationships. All outcomes pivot on this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:54 PM
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real estate My father taught me early if I can’t afford the house I want the issue is not one of real estate, but income. The same concept applies to dating; it’s fine to look for ‘the best deal’ and secure the apartment above the bar. It’s better to have the ability to buy the apartment and the brownstone two blocks over. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:42 PM
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not everything can be explained with math Yet maths is currently the most efficient tool towards attaining obtaining outcomes. Objectively before one can attain a goal, one must define the most direct/efficient strategy to achieve it. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:26 PM

wasn’t about harmless white lies Yet, you, yourself agree that lying when appropriate is reasonable. If even that justification is as you say, a harmless white one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:14 PM

A white lie So you agree. That is reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:01 PM

you clearly don’t give a fuck Quite the contrary. I’m going to assume you’re then 100% virtuous and are honest in your life 100% of time. Conversely, normal people understand that though it is a lie, it is reasonable to use discretion when appropriate. As the blunt truth is a hard instrument/bitter pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:15 PM

What context Communication. It’s dynamic. As such whilst objectively it is lying, using discretion when appropriate is a reasonable course of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:05 PM

Damn. I love Beauty and The Beast and have never viewed it in this light. Too funny!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:59 PM

justify lying. Using discretion is fine. Communication in any form is a dynamic process. It’s reasonable to retain adaptability in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:57 PM
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why assume my goals Where did I do that? For instance if one’s goal is not to be perceived a certain way, they could lie. Or put in work. So their internal dialogue is impervious to the opinions of others, regardless of their circumstances. Is that being judgmental? Or assuming goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:02 PM
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you’re judging me How so? My point is simply that time is a finite resource. Thus, in this context it is more beneficial to aim for efficiency when pursuing goals, as opposed to taking longer than what is the most direct path towards what one desires. Is that not objective fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:58 PM
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grown together well This is key. Fundamentally, the start or a relationship is not as pivotal towards it’s success, as the level of growth mindset both parties share in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:49 PM
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live a life beyond the grind set What is wrong with enjoying the grind? Why is deriving a ton of fulfilment, engagement and joy from the process of attaining success any less valid? Than the validation and emotions derived from recreational, or social success? For instance I happily admit I’m a workaholic. Love working on problems. Love challenges. Love pressure. The greater the adversity? The greater my sense of purpose becomes to meet it. How is that any less valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:25 PM
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Haha! I told my friend this is either going to be fun, or frustratingly futile! Luckily I’m a curious cat, so I’ll enjoy the learning either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:46 PM

You are hijacking my point First, the point is standards. Second, your point that anything deeper in regards to standards is subsequent to my point; that one’s first impression is the standard that precedes all other standards. That is objective fact(unless you disagree, then present the argument). Now, you’re free to presume away at my level of understanding, I’m good with that. If however you’re going to claim that the highest possible standards should be the norm for most, I’m going to questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:41 PM
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I’m a person, not a machine First, I meant no disrespect. If that’s the case, I apologise. My comment is simply to highlight objective reality in context to the post. As I’m the other way inclined. I have rarely let anything stop me from achieving my goals. So from experience know aiming for efficiency is an extremely beneficial way to frame one’s worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:29 PM
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About to try and pull apart my MacBook Pro, to replace the screen. Super excited!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:15 PM
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Damn. I wonder if she has a husband, what category she sees him in..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:14 PM

Y’all are really never going to get it, are you? Genuine question; do first impressions matter? Emotional intelligence. Empathy. Charisma and charm. Anything substantial? Objectively? Is secondary to the fact the standard all must surpass first is looks. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:55 PM
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Commiserations my friend, that’s a tough spot to be in. I too come from a strict religious upbringing, somewhat ostracised too because I married outside of my culture. One key I’ve internalised is to ’love them where they’re at’. My mom God bless her is a good person, but is extremely judgmental. Thinks little of poor people. The mentally ill. Is borderline racist. Despite being very active in church and charity. I used to confront her about it directly, but she either cannot or will not change.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:47 PM
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suggesting precautions, but that’s not the same thing as agreeing to participate in those precautions. This is a good point. If the precautions do not directly affect a woman(e.g. financial or physical precautions), then that fact is irrelevant to any woman’s intentions. A recent example being the NBA’s Anthony Edward’s Saga. Had sex with a woman. Did not care about the ‘risk’, but let the woman know prior to relations he didn’t want kids. They fell pregnant. He purportedly paid a million dollar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:55 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with that. I look at it differently; time is a finite resource. Objectively the more efficiently one moves towards their goals, the better off they will be. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:37 PM

Prove that the bar is very high. I agree with this. Take physique. All the information to develop an attractive physique is literally at one’s fingertips. As such, objectively, the only other factor is application. For instance after my first divorce I was still in decent shape, but wanted to challenge myself. So got into obstacle racing. I almost got down to 190lbs(would’ve been nice). From where I usually sit at around 225-230lbs. Didn’t take long either. Roughly 18 months. Attaining solid out…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:30 PM

focus on ensuring they can meet their own standards Most people are normal. So choose not to invest the time to attain the highest possible standards for themselves. Take money. Standard 8 hour day. Say an 1 hour total commute. Given 8 hours of sleep, what do most normal folk spend the remaining 7 hours doing? Meal prep? Weight training? Cardio? Personal development? Professional? In my old career 10-12+ hour days were a norm. I was so dialled in I was up at 5am, workout in by 6am, breakfast, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:59 PM

keep it on the low. This was one of the first lessons I learned when I was hustling; STFU. It is such a valuable lesson when applied to relationships, because knowledge is such a powerful factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:44 PM
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Where it is in the hierarchy of needs/wants? Objectively, it is a ‘want’. That said the biological imperative for sex is so strong, that it is reasonable to consider it as a pivotal factor in relationships. Right alongside communication and trust. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:32 PM

men are built to work and make If this is true that makes this statement; If women have no financial need for them men’s status drops Irrelevant. In recession. In A Great Depression. Or times of plenty. Which is the reality. Capable men will do what is necessary, to get what they want. Capitalism is not a bug. It is the best social system we have yet created.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:19 AM
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a recognition that shit happens Okay. Let’s say I agree. Shit happens. For you, it would be okay if a man took whatever precautions he thought necessary? To protect himself? Primarily because as you said, the risk is implied. That reasonable too?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:09 AM

It’s HYPOCRISY Genuine question; do you think Feminism a zero sum game? That for women to be granted the opportunity to succeed, men must suffer? men like you Men like me have no issue with Feminism. With competition. In fact, men like me don’t complain about adversity. We enjoy it. What I highlighted is the attempt to blame women. To blame society. When one is solely responsible for their own outcomes. That accountability does not start with women, it starts in the mirror. It is what men like m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:55 AM

What care does an individual have for how women or society labels something if they have attain their desired outcome? For instance I’ve been called a lot of names. Even here. I’ve also just spent the last 10 days at a resort. With my wife. My eldest flying in from Philly too so all my kids and I were together. Someone or even society at large try to label me? It does not even register. There is almost no alternative. modern men refuse to offer follow any other path Why should they? What’s wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:36 AM
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patriarchy demands men to be successful. What though is the counter to this? If ‘the patriarchy’ does not demand success? What does it demand? The mediocre? Does it demand failure? Life demands the most successful prove themselves. Continuously. From birth, one’s entire existence is predicated on this fact. Newborn can’t latch when breastfeeding? Got to work at it. Roll. Crawl. Walk. Run. Think. Fight. Earn. These facts are not demanded by ‘the patriarchy’ because they are necessary to survive. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:49 PM
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many of the those red pill influencers Are influencers first. Red pill. Black pill. If the information these influencers put out can be found free, then for them whether they’re trolls or not is secondary to how many consumers are consuming what they put out. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:28 AM
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assertive, dominant, competitive, successful. Basically what the patriarchy The meritocracy of life demands not just of boys, but of all who thrive. Additionally, these ‘preferences’ are not shaped by one specific period of time. They are timeless. If one was a king in previous life? Then a CEO in the next? The outcomes are almost identical. It is this reason TRP is effective, because attraction at its core never changes. One either attains whatever power of choice they are capable of, or they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:05 AM
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decrease the number of deadbeat dads This is the entire issue with the Anthony Richardson case. That woman was fully aware entering into any sort of relationship with Richardson, and still brought an innocent child into those circumstances. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:52 AM
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lies about intentions you’re implicitly accepting responsibility These are good points. Let’s say I agree. Would that then mean for a man, a woman’s intentions are secondary to his responsibility? That even if they both take all reasonable precaution, he cannot trust her? That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:39 AM
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the goal of redpill Is sexual strategy. Chad is simply a hypothetical archetype used as a strategy to exemplify traits that may be beneficial. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:29 PM
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words on a screen. My friend, I agree. Which means objectively, the words you choose to use are all others have to inform their perception of you. For instance one could use their words to contribute rational, positive advice. Based on what life experiences has taught them works. Or, use words like.. Cow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:50 AM
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My guy, the tone of both your comments thus far are to what end? Instead of civility and positivity you choose degrading, poor language in an attempt to disparage. To belittle. Which is fine. I’m secure enough to see it for what it is, and acknowledge it. I pity you my friend. That even as ‘internet strangers’ you cannot, or choose not to use kindness, or even a modicum of common sense in the way you communicate with others. Just food for thought. Godspeed and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:42 PM
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You’re a preening, vain dork. Definitely know my self worth, and have been accused by wife as narcissistic. That said I’m also a realist. So my friend, do appreciate the candour of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:33 PM

no one is really prepared Subsequent kids are less of a surprise. Additionally, the eldest becomes a second a second set of eyes and hands that come in very handily. Parenting isn’t complex. Firm boundaries, but fare. Pack in a ton of life experiences that build one’s knowledge base and self confidence, in a structured and consistent framework. It just takes a bit of work is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:20 AM

She can’t be your sex kitten Whilst there is a period of adjustment post-partum, necessities aside the demand of children is secondary to the demands of the relationship. It is why the hierarchy of relationships is this; first a happy and hale individual, whole on their own. Second two happy and hale individuals, whole as a couple. Then finally, two happy, hale individuals and their offspring, whole as a family. An unhappy, unhealthy individual? Affects the relationship. An unhappy, unhealthy re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:13 AM

I’ve literally had a boss he doesn’t hire women Okay. How does that negate one’s agency? That guy the only boss? That the only role? For instance my first reaction to my eldest would be sit tight, make a plan and execute. Where does ‘the glass ceiling’ prevent my eldest from exercising her agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:33 PM

the glass ceiling(which I get) Genuine question; can you better explain why you get ‘it’? For instance I’ve never understood it. I was raised that objectively there is only two outcomes to every goal; it is achieved, or it is not. Rugby Championships. Closing on properties. Having kids. Thus have enjoyed a modicum of success because I loathe losing, so am relentless. This is the exact same messaging I have raised my 17 year old daughter to internalise. That the only one responsible for her outco…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:42 PM

We live in a default patriarchy Oligarchy. Though which skews heavily male, is objectively not gendered. If an individual is capable enough, they can build empires. That transcend nations, their governments and even the planet itself. This fact has been the objective reality from when we as a species were in caves, right up to today. To call it a patriarchy diminishes the work the Angela Merkel’s, Oprah’s and Thatcher’s of the world put in. To attain the outcomes they did. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:25 PM
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reframe the concept The difference is the reframing does not negate the platitude of ‘being yourself’ when it is offered as advice. Conversely in some cultures loved ones are brutally direct. e.g. “you’re too fat” etc.. Purportedly too there’s a ‘crabs in a bucket’ mentality about that advice. That ‘being yourself’ is good enough, when the objective reality is being yourself is never sufficient. As things change, so by default being oneself must be a fluid concept. Thus when faced with failure t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:14 PM
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Six seve..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:41 AM
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Why do you think men should have the same rights So, in your view; despite our differences we should not aim for equality? That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:13 PM
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This is not about abandonment, the issue is the clear inequality in agency post conception. Both men and women keep their agency to control their bodies post conception Okay. If both parties agree to only one outcome pre-conception; then legally this is the only outcome that should be allowed. This reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:06 PM
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extremely rare edge case Agreed. It also sets the objective limit of the issue. All reasonable precautions taken. Both parties in agreement pre-conception. Which best highlights the disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:59 PM
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right now there is no way for all precautions to be taken. Should the law then not account for this fact? A woman retains her agency post conception. That is reasonable. Why is the man not given an equal choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:56 PM
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Get angry at the right people. Demand your rights. Okay. Let’s say all appropriate precaution is taken. Say pre coitus too both parties agree that a child is definitively not an option. Pregnancy occurs. The woman changes her mind. Decides to keep it. Should she have that right? If so, then what recourse should the man have?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:42 PM

Yep. Hence the return to school soon hehe! It’s exciting too because my 4 year old is starting formal education(pre-school), so we’re on the way to being empty nesters haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:31 PM
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online dating If one is not as successful online, that fact behooves them to expand strategies. Ultimately, how one gets to their goal does not matter nearly as much as getting there. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:28 PM

Christmas/Summer holidays (Southern Hemisphere).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:24 PM
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no privilege to work as a slave Okay. So let’s say sex work is not a privilege. In your view how should it be defined/legislated? Or should it not be? My goal is to simplify the issue right down, as objectively as possible. Hence establishing what a reasonable definition of how society should perceive and legislate sex work to me, is a solid starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:46 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:37 PM

blind to what they have. This is the crux of any complaint. Short of the illegal, everyone has agency. This is a universal fact, and is one of the most empowering aspects of life that is often overlooked. Every day one wakes up; is a brand new day. Full to the brim of opportunity to exercise agency. It is truly a beautiful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:33 PM
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differences in perspective Genuine question; what impact would you say your ex husband has had on your current circumstances? Positive? Or negative? If positive; how has that experience objectively helped you? What are grateful for? If negative; does that history still negatively impact you? Will it continue to? I ask because after my first divorce, I spiralled. It was only after counselling and gaining sufficient perspective that I realised how much of a blessing in disguise my divorce was. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:27 PM
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Wishing you good luck with the book my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:56 AM
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not a privilege Okay. So it shouldn’t be encouraged? Legalised? From an objective standpoint, in a capitalist economy if the demand is there should there not be supply to meet it? Or does sex work not count?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:53 AM

no choice Just go bodyweight workouts and build a home gym. An elder sister’s ex was an S&C coach for a pro rugby team, and he gifted me my first weight set in my early teens. I still have it too, even though I’ve upgraded my setup several times since. Plates and a rack aren’t expensive either. Plus no waiting to work in sets(unless my 17 year old is lifting too). Everything is set up for my program. I think commercials are great, but they don’t compare to a home gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:37 AM

they choose a pessimistic one I found TRP liberating. Though that may be my temperament because I skew heavily towards optimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:32 AM

Kids must be returning to school soon. Must be. Just kidding. Love the holidays! Happy holidays y’all!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:30 AM
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it is a privilege to sell your body Genuine question; is it not a privilege? If not, then is it not a freedom one should be able to exploit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:13 AM
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men have gotten lazier and more entitled I think most have gotten lazier. Uber. Door dash. Subscriptions out the wazoo. Which is normal. Humans are inherently lazy creatures. Dating is simply another manifestation of this fact. Conversely, this is arguably the greatest time in human history. We might be on the verge of creating intelligence that evolves far more rapidly and powerfully than we can. Just the possibilities; efficient diagnostics and treatment in healthcare. Faster modes of transpor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:03 AM
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if a man has a mug on him I have a messed up nose/face from rugby and fighting. Whilst grooming and appearance is importance, I’ve also been lucky in that I’m an extroverted optimist. So I’ve never struggled to meet people and have fun. This is anecdotal, but one aspect of a person does not make the whole. Especially if one is persists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:50 AM
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CROSSPOST FROM A LIFEADVICE SUB Not sure where to go with my life and relationship For context, I (21F) am the kind of person who used a new relationship to get out of an old/bad relationship, so the last time I was single was over 4 years ago when I was 16. I have been dating my current bf(21M) for 2.4 years and I love him so much, he's my bestfriend and I cant imagine my life with out him. We met a few days before college started and have been inseparable ever since, and due to a-typical circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:11 AM
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are all whores Not me. I’m a born again virgin. Just kidding. I don’t think my wife would approve hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:54 AM

Prof Huberman has quite a bit about sleep. It’s well worth researching. A few tips I’ve learned; no devices in the bedroom, have a consistent bed time routine, sleep hygiene habits etc.. Sleep I frame now as a skill. One I can always improve upon. Best of luck with it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:13 AM

CROSSPOST FROM A LIFEADVICE SUB Not sure where to go with my life and relationship For context, I (21F) am the kind of person who used a new relationship to get out of an old/bad relationship, so the last time I was single was over 4 years ago when I was 16. I have been dating my current bf(21M) for 2.4 years and I love him so much, he's my bestfriend and I cant imagine my life with out him. We met a few days before college started and have been inseparable ever since, and due to a-typical circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:09 AM

sleep disorder Professor Andrew Huberman had a recent episode on The Modern Wisdom Podcast, that covered a little on the neuroscience of sleep. Might be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:55 AM
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Self-mastery and discipline must come first. Agreed. One cannot out eat a poor diet, nor spend their way out of poverty.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/26 04:29 AM
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Living your way, on your timeline, that’s what sets you free. What sets one free is Resources. Specifically; health, then money. Sure have beliefs. Have boundaries. Focus first though on being physically capable, then acquiring the freedom of choice money buys. It is hard to feel pressured by a society, when one has a ton of independence from it.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/26 11:42 PM

That’s an unbelievable glow up! Good on him!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:09 AM
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First, thank you VRX for the work you do as a mod. It is a thankless task. Yet it is appreciated. What content One of the most direct ways this sub used to provide value was with AskTRP. What brings guys into the manosphere still is that need for answers. Guys questioning why, and hoping to find answers to better their outcomes. Giving guys an opportunity to raise their queries in a non judgemental, but empowering way would be beneficial. Another reply mentioned OYS from TRP adjacent subs, but s…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/26 04:39 AM
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sexual desire So to you, all relationships are solely about sexual desire? Or if friendship is included then do you too frame relationships as something deeper?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:12 AM
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This comes off as seeing relationships as work and sex is the payment. Relationships do take work, and sexual compatibility is a massive factor. At least in healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:59 AM
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try to frame relationships as something deep Genuine question; objectively can a relationship be intimate? Furthermore if so; to what level? Superficial? Women are just holes? Men are just dicks? Or is there something more? If relationships have no depth, virtue, soul or any other facets to it; what kind of relationship is it? Solely physical? That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:51 AM
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Would a system of rules and point scoring be more productive The primary reason it would not be more productive, is because it limits scope. Converse to generalising out the debate as broadly as possible, to establish how widely applicable an argument is. It’s why binary extremes are so beneficial. It sets an objective limit to what is being debated. Which helps simplify points.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:25 AM
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as hard sciences Reasonable. Do all women prefer fat men? Or fit? Rich? Or poor? Nope. Do most women though? Generalisations are beneficial because they provided a broader perspective. That is not hard science, agreed. It is however just plain common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:36 PM
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Just keep it to yourself In perspective. No one is impervious to emotion. Instead, hone the process of mastering emotions. Hit the heavy bag. Journal. Confide in a bro. Get advice. Music. Art. Lift. Run. There are a multitude of healthy strategies to processing emotions effectively. The key is gaining objectivity through broadening perspective. As opposed to keeping it in. Dogs. Gym. Bad days. Good. Are part of the ebbs and flow of life. Acknowledge this. Learn from it, then let it go. The more …
/r/TheRedPill18/01/26 05:19 AM
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Cheers my guy!
/r/TheRedPill18/01/26 03:03 AM
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Compounding Read this word and it mirrored my first thought; cofounder interest for the win!
/r/TheRedPill16/01/26 08:42 PM
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generalizations In context to dating, it is the most efficient approach. For instance do most women prefer fat guys? Or fit guys? Generally speaking the answer is straightforward. Thus it benefits an individual to operate out of this mindset. The same goes for wealth. For social skill. Hence why looking for the commonalities that underpin relationships provides a realistic basis, from which to approach dating. Or do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:23 AM
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women who aren’t attracting the volume of guys they want? Their only choice is to address either their goal, or their strategy until they attain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:59 PM
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Improving one’s outcome doesn’t necessarily solve the societal problem as a whole I disagree. If almost everyone takes responsibility for their own outcomes and actualises them? Society on average improves. Should women complain Certainly. En masse complaining has empowered change, but that only happens at the extreme e.g. Iran currently. Society in general however moves slowly e.g. Iran previously. In the interim, it is far more pragmatic to build from the individual level up. Additionally, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:52 PM
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Oof. What a terrible set of circumstances for that poor child to be caught between.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:59 PM
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I wear Arnettes, Raybans and Oakley. Wife loves her Pradas, Gucci and Chanel sunnies, but I find them gaudy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:35 PM
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the context?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:33 PM
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Without exception valid dissatisfaction Okay. Let’s define valid dissatisfaction and invalid dissatisfaction/advocacy beyond the illegal. If a man does absolutely nothing to better his outcomes, is his dissatisfaction valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:14 PM
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upholding validity of seeking validation This is an interesting view. Okay. Where is the cut off for this view? Where it is not valid to seek validation? When should men not beg for validation? Or should it be the default?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:30 PM
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this validation seeking framework has been adopted by men after seeing society indulge in it for women. This is a great point. One can either be a victim of their circumstances, or a victor over them. The more bitter the circumstances? The sweeter the victory. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:23 PM
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make you complacent That is a good point. I have a great accountant, and my financial advisor doubles as my brother’s wife. So I have a ton of support that definitely makes me complacent. That said, when I was going through my divorce and burning through my cash base my friends were worried and called me out. I told them I wasn’t because I only had one goal; which was to get 50-50 custody. That the money didn’t matter, because I could always make more. Which though can contribute to my complacen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:16 PM
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My guy, you’re hung up on this Venezuelan baddie but I haven’t been stateside since November. Unfortunate as it is for Venezuelan baddies. Just kidding. Plenty of men out there hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:06 PM
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Sleeping in your own bed(without kids) is one of the most luxurious experiences in the world. Just pure bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:55 PM
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few cons Genuine question; what cons? When younger I realised very quickly that money buys freedom of choice. So made it a mission. I’m of the view that outside of ownership, money is literally the second the second best asset an individual can possess. There is no downside to an excess of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:33 PM
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What about me who have changed every aspect of their life and still have no results. Keep changing. Get bigger, stronger and faster. Make even more money. Socialise with even more people. Dating is like sales. When it comes down to it is a numbers game. Persistence is key. be realistic, but stay optimistic. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:26 PM
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the stuff grooming can’t fix Accept it. For instance I’m a normal height(5’10). My face whist not too bad is messed up from Rugby and fighting. The only choice if I don’t want to waste 30 thousand dollars is to accept my circumstances, and work from there. Additionally, I don’t derive a ton of my self worth or self confidence from my appearance. I get the majority of my sense of self efficacy from what I know I can do. I can string a word or two together. Write a contract. Read one. Carry a frid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:19 PM
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actually RP? I don’t identify as RP. I just used it to get what I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:43 PM
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you’re not a redpiller Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:42 PM
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putting in the work Where it counts. It’s okay to bench 225 for reps, but helps little when one cannot string two coherent sentences together. The primary appeal of TRP is that it’s structured; lift, make bank, and hone your social skills. Master these three factors, and the opinions of others diminish in comparison. To how one feels about themselves and all they have accomplished. As Rocky said; ’that is how winning is done’.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:56 AM
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My friend, this comment contributes little. Yet still says enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:13 AM
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Yep. Strauss’s book was insightful for me. Like The Rational Male. No More Mr Nice Guy. Models. Previously I just treated dating and relationships as trial and error. Never invested much thought into it. Finding TRP though really resonated with my experiences. Being small. The getting jacked and running through a ton of girls. Then learning why that was the case. It was really eye opening in such a beneficial way. At least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:19 AM
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male privilege comes with a lack of privilege in the modern era I have never understood this mentality. As a man, I can leave my wife and kids, go out and work 16 hour days or more, and build myself an entire new life in 5-10 years. That is tremendously freeing. Male privilege comes with the burden of performance. Which is only a burden, if one cannot perform. It is literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:07 AM
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don’t believe in game The book that led me to TRP was literally called The Game. I have always had ‘game’ but have always called it and still call it flirting, primarily because flirting is fun. Whatever label one uses whether it’s Game, Rizz, Flirting or Social Skill, it is one’s worldview that is pivotal. That frames their outlook, and subsequently their outcomes. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:59 PM
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being able build rapport and even sexual/romantic escalation. This was my issue. Pre TRP I mostly just partied, drank, then relied on luck. It worked okay, but I literally never thought about the process of seduction and sex. Post TRP? Everything made sense. Environment. Emotion. Escalation etc.. This I think is one often overlooked benefit of TRP. It is actual field notes of other men’s experiences. What worked. What didn’t. All condensed down into common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:53 PM
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just be hot. Which is not even that complex. Good nutrition, hydration and sleep. Lift heavy. Groom well and finally hone social skills. Which is all TRP boils down to. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:48 PM
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why it bothers people like you to acknowledge that some people will lose no matter what they do. It is not that some people will lose no matter what, it is the mentality. For instance let’s agree some will lose no matter what. Then what? Those individuals still have agency. To pivot. To realign their expectations and set more realistic goals. Whatever they may be. Is this unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:08 PM
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some of the worst sex I have ever had was in a committed relationship This is a good point. Did you know the sex was bad during the relationship? Or after?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:08 PM
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Okay. Let’s see if we can pull it apart and find some common ground. Which parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:04 AM
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One could aspire to be an olympic class swimmer The premise however still stands. If one does not attain their desired outcome, aspiring Olympian or not they by default must start again. From a new starting point. With new information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:40 AM

As someone who struggles with workaholism, I hate this. I love it for others, but give me that grind everyday of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:19 AM

Oh man hehe! That’s.. That’s one hell of a viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:17 AM
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any sort of nuance is lost Yet, the nuance is secondary to the outcome. A fact too that negates one’s starting point. If one does not attain their desired outcome, they by default must start again. A new starting point. With new information. Which puts them in a better position, to attain their goal. Or is this reasoning poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:13 AM

offers you no choice but to become that person I frame it slightly differently yet with a similar mindset; I choose to do xyz. Primarily because I’m an optimist, so prefer to view reality as having choice, and being empowered to consciously choose. As I find it’s a more rewarding mindset than ‘forcing’ myself, or having no options but one. Additionally, I have found this mindset makes it far easier to convert conscious choice to habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:05 AM
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doesn’t care As a fellow Christian I actually think it comes from the opposite place; caring about how others ‘fit in’. Casual sex and promiscuity has been normalised. Virginity is viewed as inexperience even if purportedly casual sex for women at least is not as beneficial(nor as good if women are believed) as sex in a committed long term relationship. So if one is ‘inexperienced’ that’s not as beneficial as being ‘experienced’. Sex is reduced down to the animal act. Primarily for the purpose o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:55 PM
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I do think that’s the only thing we can control Which in one word means agency. Making the merit of one’s actions if not the sole determining factor, at the very least the primary factor in the outcomes they attain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:44 PM
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That’s the false dichotomy Genuine question; how so? I’ll lay out my view and you pull it apart to show where it’s wrong. Dating or attempting it only has two outcomes; one either attains their desired outcome, or they do not. The merit of their actions is a direct factor to this end. Hence the importance of agency. Where is this viewpoint incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:45 PM
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It’s not a dichotomy Objectively one either attains their desired outcomes, or they do not. That, is as simple as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:15 PM
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correlated to improve relationship success Okay. Let’s say I agree. Self improvement doesn’t always bear results. What’s the alternative? Is there one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:12 PM
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It’s not a meritocracy. The issue with this view is it relinquishes agency. If dating is not a meritocracy, then does that mean one cannot improve their dating outcomes? If one is ugly and alone? That it? They have no choice? That reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:14 PM
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Male chest is not. My experience though anecdotal says otherwise. Additionally, when younger arms, and oddly hands used to get a ton of compliments too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:05 PM
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Ooh I like this gif!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:03 PM
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Whilst I agree that Testosterone is a hell of a drug, I knew from my early teens that I wanted to be married. Thus casual sex however fun, was not fulfilling at all. Though anecdotal, I’m confident there’s a ton a of men that share this view. freedom for yourself I realised around the same time that true freedom was mastering my time. Hated others dictating it. So worked my tail off. It took close to a decade and a half, but I got there. One does not need have money or casual sex, to put their v…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:19 PM
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do you agree Wholeheartedly. The timeless adage; ’belly full and ball’s empty’ covers the vast majority of men. So much so that men are near monolithic in this regard. Most men are simple creatures in context to relationship needs. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:44 PM

One of the comments as about Al Pacino getting it done. At a youthful 83 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:14 AM

Long wait for the inheritance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:13 AM

<image> Q4ALL; Sir Slade getting it done? Or maybe he goes the surrogate route?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:24 AM

Watching The Peach Bowl and it’s conflicting. On one side there’s so much joy, optimism and hope. The other? Dejection. Despair. Pain. So reminiscent of the ups and downs of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:52 AM
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most women are just very cowardly. Cowardice is not the same as pragmatism. If one can make a bio, and have 10,000 likes? The issue is not fear, but choice. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:25 AM
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Hourly reminder needed that all women are not the same person Do share commonalities. So much so, that if one views all prospective partners on a scale of superficial to not superficial? A woman’s actions will land them on said scale. Women are not a monolith, but most women are similar enough. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:17 AM
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suicidal people Whilst a valid point, those that suffer from suicidal ideation are a minority. So operating from the viewpoint that the fear of death is a near universally held belief, is far closer to the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:33 AM

hit himself in the face with a hammer I didn’t quite use a hammer, but playing rugby certainly put me in places I wouldn’t have been without it. Regardless of messed up my face got hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:28 AM
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Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth Love this mentality. You can’t gain understanding of something you have never experienced. Agreed. Objectively, my understanding is and will be limited. That does not mean one cannot anticipate, and plan right up to that limit. One can practice a kick 10,000 times. Never be hit in the mouth once. That fact, does not negate the practice. Similarly, one can fortify their internal dialogue to the point their perspective is sufficiently broad. To b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:22 AM
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You can’t pretend Whilst true, I can broaden my perspective sufficiently to better understand the perspective of those and their circumstances. Better still, anticipate and fortify what my response could be. If faced with similar circumstances. Is that unreasonable? an existence This is the crux of my point of view: Death. One of my favourite books that my eldest gifted to me is a book called The Happiest Man on Earth. For me, the worst possible outcome is death. As a sentient being there is obj…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:25 AM

the huge financial disincentive The issue is not one of incentive, but of finance. For example after my first divorce, I knew I wanted to get remarried. Despite spending a sizeable amount on the divorce, and fighting for 50-50 custody. The primary reason? I wanted more kids. Dating by far requires less of an investment. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:42 AM
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certainly no preparing for all instances Okay. Let’s say I agree. I am not preparing for all instances. Objectively, what is considered the worst case scenario that I, or any other human cannot or do not prepare for?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:26 AM
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There’s so much negativity, so the stubbornness in me forces me to persevere with my optimism haha! Best wishes my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:22 PM

My guy; if there was a Venezuelan baddie after me? I think I’d know about her hehe!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:09 PM

I don’t have enough information One of the first if not first things I do when debating here is to adopt the view point, and see where the objective merits lie. That way I can better understand how that person came to that view, and whether it is objectively reasonable. Or not. There’s a lot of talk of nuance but I go the exact opposite way; simplify it. If a debater cannot articulate their point simply, then a lack of information is not going to address this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:06 PM

Favourite all time is Ready Player One. Though my reading history stems from Fantasy. Lord of The Rings. Wheel of Time. So presumably there’s a little crossover, but I don’t know gaming well currently so I might be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:02 PM

If you like story-driven games I’m the other way inclined; I like game-driven stories. In that I enjoy stories with elaborate settings, characters and plots. I’m reading some historical fiction currently and it has me engrossed. Similar to video games, but the escapism is all internal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:34 PM
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I actually gave it try Nice work my guy! Just want to say I’m happy for you! Hope your year ahead is just as good!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:29 PM

Unattractive Poor people. Breed like rabbits. Though the statistics show it appears even the poor are coming to their senses. Just kidding. I just hope everyone is doing okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:25 PM
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binary thinkers and leaves no for room nuance. I frame it slightly differently; I view reality in binary extremes because it encompasses all nuance. Anecdotally I’ve found this worldview beneficial, because there is literally nothing I have not anticipated. Thus every outcome lands somewhere within my perspective. It is also a sizeable contributing factor to my happiness. As there is literally nothing I haven’t prepared for. Thus am rarely stressed, worried or anxious. There is very little downs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:10 PM

So good to be home. Been a big holidays, but we’re home for a week before one more holiday away. Then holidays are done. Can’t wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:55 PM
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make a move, and move on quickly if she’s says no without being bitter TRP 101. So good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:49 PM
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Extremes don’t exist reality Yet it is practical to anticipate, and better still prepare for them nonetheless. Or do disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:19 PM
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In practical terms Okay. Let’s apply my ‘binary’ framing practically to your analogy, to see if you agree. Some women can detect a bad man with 80% accuracy Let’s say I am a woman. Say I acknowledge, and am self aware that with 100% certainty I cannot detect a bad man from good with any accuracy whatsoever. 100%. Thus by default must recruit tools/skills to better my accuracy, and subsequent outcomes. Is that practical?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:05 PM
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that doesn’t mean reality fits into black and white boxes Okay. Let’s stick with the objective analogy of colour. What is the ‘greyest’ grey? When does grey stop being ‘grey’ and becomes ‘black’? Or ‘white’? The reason to use clear delineations or ‘boxes’ to frame one’s outlook on reality is it provides the broadest perspective of what can happen. There are binary extremes to all outcomes. This premise objectively encompasses every single outcome that can occur. Every shade of grey. Until it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:52 PM
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this sub is very binary Primarily because objectively, everyone reside within the boundaries of two extremes. To use another basketball analogy; Mugsy Bogues and Shaq. Different starting points; same outcome of making the league. No one is refuting the shades of grey argument. Those shades however can only be defined in context to what is black and white. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:43 PM
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Is it justified to give these lessons to one sex Yes. Though my wife and I raise them similarly, the primary reason I raise my son differently to my daughters is because objectively he will face different obstacles. As masculinity is too often derided, as opposed to being venerated. So must account for this fact. As to different advice for treating partners ‘right’ those timeless adages are timeless for a reason. As crude as it is; ’happy wife equals happy life’ and ’empty balls and a full stoma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:37 PM
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that isn’t the person for you Additionally, coffee dates are low investment for both parties. One of my default first dates was a ‘training’ date’ then a coffee. It worked well. Link up. Have fun and squeeze a little workout in. If the vibes were good off to coffee. If not, still had a little workout. There was literally no downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:31 PM
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where men feel like all women care about is genetics. It is not a feeling. Objectively appearance matters. Whether one is Arab, Asian or Zambian, this influences other’s perceptions. As to comfort versus giving up, it takes a tremendous amount of work to attain physical self acceptance. For instance growing up I was on the smaller side. So hit the gym. Even now sitting around 225 I sometimes think I can get ‘bigger’ yet have to remind myself; ‘I’m good’. It is hard to practice self acceptance at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:52 PM
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CROSSPOST FROM A RELATIONSHIP ADVICE SUB My girlfriend (24F) only just told me (25M) she slept with two of her close friends. We are 1 year in. Idk how to feel? Hey. I'm 25M. My girlfriend has a group of male friends from uni. I have no issue with that. I actually went to some celebrations with them all and tried my best to get involved with her life and friends. Recently when going for a meal she was talking about how one of them had made some bad decisions and slept with someone on a night out…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:03 AM
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u/wtknight just for transparency, looks cannot be discussed in context to self worth? Or, say gender affirming strategies? Those types of posts are removed? Just asking for clarification prior to reposting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:45 AM
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Agreed. Interpreting her choice of actions, on Day 2 none the less? Is well within one’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:43 AM
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Valid concern I disagree. Whilst sexual compatibility is important, there’s numerous ways to achieve it. Being upfront about dick size just highlights how rigid her mindset is. On day 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:47 PM
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Don’t send dick pics I’ve never understood this. I view sex with me as a privilege. The only context where I’ve shared sexted was with a long term partner. Ridiculous that young guys aren’t taught to value their own sexuality, to the point they use discretion when considering how and whom they should share it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:17 PM
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gender affirming care If one’s gender needs care to be affirmed, the issue is not the care. The issue is basing an disproportionate level of self efficacy, on the superficial. As soon as those superficialities are impacted? Be it Botox? Or MPB? So too is one’s self worth affected. Anecdotally I had dreads for most of my late teens. Early 20’s after graduating shaved them off to reveal MPB. Honestly? I was gutted. I also accepted it, buzzed it and have kept buzzed or shaved since. If I was so ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:33 PM
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ensure the right people are in power I’m not saying just pick any woman for a position Objectively, power is attained and more importantly retained only by one type of person; the sufficiently capable. Look at any hierarchy, in any context, and atop will be the most capable of that group. Even democracies. No better example exists than the current ’leader of the free world’. Often portrayed as a bumbling, misogynistic narcissist. In context to both leadership and government however? He has held …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:07 PM

Congratulations! Wishing you a swift an easy birth! Best wishes!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:51 AM

I’m running through some historical fiction on holidays. Next series cued up is some Fantasy. Mixing some self improvement in there too. Hope y’all are having a wonderful start to this quarter of the century!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:02 AM
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prioritize financial stability This is key. I’m not rich, but I am currently a stay at home parent. For us to enjoy this privilege, prior to even meeting my wife I worked 80+ hour weeks. In the private sector. For nearly a decade. Non financial value is beneficial. It however does not pay for horse riding or soccer registration. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:58 AM

something about shooting and killing things for fun just feels a bit sociopathic For most men that hunt the association is the opposite; it’s natural. Humans are not exempt from nature, more so an integral part of it. Just like hiking, or gardening, hunting, fishing and any of those activities are how some build and maintain that connection to the eco system that surrounds them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:58 AM
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Greed I would not even call it greed. There is a tremendous amount of fulfilment from acquiring wealth. Even if one started from a place of privilege. Consciously making choices, to continuously build and grow. Is extremely rewarding. So I can relate to that mindset of always ‘wanting more’. The key however is always balance. Working 80+ hour weeks kills marriages. So learning to value and better appreciate downtime is important too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:12 AM
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invest more money while also contributing more to domestic chores I never get this mentality. I love money. It’s nice to spend a few weeks at a resort. So appreciate the process that led to us enjoying that luxury. I love cleanliness. There’s nothing quite like cleaning out the pantry, or picking up, vacuuming, and finishing with a clean cupboard or lounge room. I appreciate the process, and even enjoy it. It’s funny that simple luxuries such as being able to work, are often framed as something …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:57 PM
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Kill Accept the part which cringes. Almost everyone on the face of the planet who has dated experienced awkwardness, fear and doubt. One should learn to be kinder to themselves, and not so much ‘kill’ but acknowledge and accept that these things are human.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:44 PM
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A man being cringe is a violation Feature of male competence, not a bug. The majority of successful men did not start successful. Cringe. Awkwardness. Doubt. Fear. For almost everyone, is part of the process. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:41 PM
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in disaster Even more objectively in general, a society can better proliferate with far fewer men than women. Then the inverse. Acknowledging this disparity in value is not misogynistic, it is pragmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:34 PM
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you all want women to fit some perfect Reasonable concept. That appeals to more women than less. Which at its roots is why TRP is so effective, and relatable to young men. Yes, for the most we cannot mold the entirety of women to behave a certain way. We can however observe how most women act, then create strategies to capitalise on these observations. That is all TRP really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:47 PM
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offended First, I agree with the uselessness of being offended in general. To understand shitty behaviour though one first has to adopt the viewpoint of those partaking in, and attempting to defend it. In all the examples, there is a reason why all members of a group, would attempt to defend the behaviours of a subset of that group. No matter how reprehensible. To get that reason, one has to look at the world how they do. That does not excuse the poor behaviour, nor the defending of it. It howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:47 PM
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full eugenics Whilst not quite ‘full’ eugenics I just watched an interesting episode about Epigenetics on The Startalk Podcast. Dr Marlin of The Marlin Lab out of Columbia used the sense of smell in mice to test the theories surrounding trans-generational trauma. Which is why it is important to discuss openly all topics, eugenics and epigenetics included, without value judgments. As it allows for the most objectivity. As to male pattern baldness as someone who is graced with this trait, I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:15 PM

using anything other than looks I agree with this take. I’m not rich, but I live in a more exclusive part of town. As soon as someone finds out where I live, you can almost see their reaction. Like they’re judging and making presumptions because of my postcode. For the most now I avoid discussing anything to do with materialistic topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:52 PM
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something structural The key factor will always be resources. Specifically, time and money. This factor is pivotal in how well a couple can alleviate the stressors postpartum. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:44 PM
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