How would you guys approach trying to have sex with or dating older women as a younger man?

sir_wankalot_here · 2014-11-08T12:43:51+00:00

Ask them out, be direct and to the point ask her out. Usually older women it is a given if you are a.younger guy you are just a fuck toy. Most of the time you don't need to play the same stupid games younger women play.

Azothlike · 2014-11-08T13:45:12+00:00

I tend to prefer older women.

Pros:

You don't have to game them. Being direct is great.
They did all their post-wall rationalizations years ago. Their SMV and their perceived SMV are equal.
They usually have their own resources rather than expecting you to use yours all the time.

Cons:

They don't fuck like a 20-something. Their bodies just can't handle it.
They're used up, inside and out. They've never gotten off the carousel.
They don't want you having other plates that could take away from your time with them. They guard their partners fiercely because they have far fewer options.

fortifiedoranges · 2014-11-08T12:45:37+00:00

Don't game them like a clueless 20 year old, they've fallen for the easy lines. Sometimes that works though depending on your delivery, it can help make your intentions clear. I've found there are less shit tests early on but they ramp up when you start plating them. There's a reason they're sleeping with you and not someone their own age.

[deleted] · 2014-11-08T17:26:59+00:00

This is weird territory. If you are attractive and have a decent 'alpha' personality at this point, when you're with an older woman who values you more than you're used to being valued by a younger woman you will find yourself able to act on some of your beta tendencies or qualities without any repercussions.

This can be really, really liberating, to actually be appreciated and able to express your emotions as a human being without being tossed aside by the (understandably) hyper-discriminatory whims of younger, higher value women.

But this can also get you into some strange habits of behavior you forget that you can't get away with with a higher value, younger woman.

Be sensitive to these dynamics and explore them consciously. Women aged 35-45 can often have great personalities, facilitating great conversation, and everyone knows how hot at 35-45 year old can be these days. Have fun and be sure to bring us a field report.

Azothlike · 2014-11-08T13:59:28+00:00

I'm 29, and there are three women in their early 40s that I could bend over a mattress for the third time+, this week. Anecdotal advice and tales ahead.

Step 1: Be attractive. This is #1, obviously. If you're not attractive, make yourself attractive.

Step 2: Don't be "nice". This deserves stressing. If you come off as nice, or kind, an older woman will be too ashamed "taking advantage of you", et cetera. It's much better if you come off a little predatory, as it will make them feel less guilty. I generally range from heavily flirtatious(smirks, eye contact, witty and risqué quips) to aloof-ly sexual(calm sexual invitations/questions, etc), and it works well with that crowd.

Side note: even when you're successfully not nice, and treating their ass like a cheap slampiece, they'll still be calling you sweet and shit. The hamster at work.

3.) Fuck them well. This is the most important part to keeping them as a plate/date. One of my older plates stuck around because she'd never squirted before; a month later, she was watching fingerbang porn between our dates. Another had never done any real bdsm, and a week later I was tugging her around her house on a leash to fuck her face in every room. Women that get sexual with younger men aren't usually after commitment. They're chasing the tingles of their youth.

4.) Tell them they're hot. This is last because you should do it last; during sex at the soonest, really. Compliments like Cute and Sensual can come sooner. This is bad with hot 20 year olds, but when dealing with anyone that knows their SMV is lower than you, you're not going to get shit tests, you're going to get requests for qualification("You really think my butt looks good?", etc). One of the things I hear often from older women is "You make me feel so sexy", not just from what I say, but how I act (ravenously, etc).

Women 10+ years older than you, at that age, aren't usually interested in you as a BB/for commitment, in my experience. Not sure how you'd go about actually "dating" them.

kingofpoplives · 2014-11-08T16:09:06+00:00

Women in this age range, when they date younger, usually just want sex with a hot guy. If they wanted beta bux they'd go for an older guy with more money.

I had a plate in her mid-30s when I was in my early 20s. She made good money as a nurse and would take me out to dinner and pay for everything, never shit tested, told me I was a great guy, and was just stoked to hang out and have sex.

Can be a good arrangement if you find one that appreciates you.

As for finding a woman like this, really it's more about her finding and choosing you. Women at that age know what they want, so as younger guy your odds of "gaming her" into wanting you aren't great. Just trade off your youth and sex appeal. Hang out in places with an older or mixed age crowd and make yourself available to approaches.

In the case of the woman above, she and her friend stared me down super hard so it was an obvious green light to approach. Then first date she was DTF. Fond memories.

stickfiguresk · 2014-11-08T12:57:56+00:00

Old single women are usually jaded whores or full-blown celibate cat lady. You can be direct with the jaded women. You can have a pleasant conversation and then charismatically tell them you want to bend them over your couch and fuck them really hard.

iluminatiNYC · 2014-11-08T18:54:22+00:00

The advice is spot on. It's usually very easy for a young man to deal with a single older woman. They don't mind the direct approach, they have their own stuff, and they've made peace with their fate in life. Just go for it. They aren't going to be butchy usually, and if they are, be grateful you didn't meet them at 20.

[deleted] · 2014-11-08T20:29:18+00:00

My experience has been that they are a lot more direct and honest, with a lot less narcissism and self-aggrandizement. I've always had a more pleasurable time with a lot less effort.

The same tack applies at all ages, but the facade is a lot less insurmountable the older they are, and post-wall women are as easy as they come. Just remember that the roles are reversed somewhat; you're more of a toy to them than they are to you, and they are aware of this. If they wanted something more substantial than a toy, they would go for somebody older whose assets has appreciated more. If you accept this (and what's wrong with it, really?) you'll both enjoy yourselves.

vicious_armbar · 2014-11-12T16:14:20+00:00

Why would you want to? There's a reason the majority of men of all age groups prefer 18-24 year olds.

cocaine_face · 2014-11-08T14:45:54+00:00

I just have to ask - why?

Ease? With Tinder and stuff, 20-30 year old girls are incredibly easy.

If this is a specific fetish of yours, go wild, but it just seems silly. I'm 29 and I've got no problem getting random 19 and 20 year olds. Hell, I had a 21 year old plate texting me last night pissed I was staying home.

Doctor_Mayhem · 2014-11-09T01:24:56+00:00

Show up. Bring condoms. If you're following this subreddit's advice on fitness and fashion, they'll be the ones approaching.

[deleted] · 2014-11-08T16:09:24+00:00

30-34 they are going to be jaded, bitter and looking for a provider type ASAP. But above 35 they generally have realized it's not gonna happen and enjoy having a young 20s boytoy to remind them that they still got it.

dourdave · 2014-11-09T15:02:53+00:00

They are more savvy than younger women and can tell if you are only interested in getting laid. My divorced mother in her late 40's tells me that her and her good looking friends (also in their late 40's) are surprised at the number of 20 and 30 something men, who think that because my mother and her friends are older and single, they are DTF any younger guy because they are desperate for sex. Not so.

Guys, because these women are smart (she and two of her friends have PhDs), good looking, in shape, and have their shit together, they are just as picky as guys are when it comes to dating and fucking guys. They said they find the cockiness of many 30 something guys a turn off. For instance, they think they can impress these women with talk of their sports cars and their time spent at the gym, when these women are looking for discussions on more substantative topics.

Sorry to say, but my MILF mother and her friends usually date older guys who aren't as entitled (meaning they don't have the childish attitude that these women should feel lucky they are with a younger hot man). Part of their preference might be due to the fact they they have said that older men are usually much better in bed -- much less inhibited and better skilled. Older men usually also understand the art of seduction and that foreplay begins with the conversation during dinner. Younger guys, by contrast, they say, tend to telegraph (with no sublety) "I only want to fuck" and don't care whether there is any intellectual connection.

I hear a lot of interesting things about dating and men from my mother and her friends.

netgrey · 2014-11-08T23:58:01+00:00

What kind of mommy issues are making you seek out sex with wilted flowers?

Title	How would you guys approach trying to have sex with or dating older women as a younger man?
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Date	November 8, 2014 12:36 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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