Do you think TRP gives false hopes to some men ?

nicethingyoucanthave · 2015-08-24T18:22:22+00:00

So here's the deal: the whole idea of TRP is that what we're told by society about human sexuality outside of TRP is a lie.

Just so we have something to use as an analogy, here's a lie: "if you want to be an astronaut, just be yourself and one day someone's space program will recruit you!"

And here's the truth: "you need to get really good grades in school and be in top physical condition in order to get into an astronaut program."

And your post essentially asks, "does the true statement above give people false hope?" - and your point is that no matter how much some people study and no matter how careful they are to stay in shape, they aren't ever going to be an astronaut.

...and you're right, they're not. But the truth is still better than the lie. It seems totally ridiculous to me to even entertain the idea that because I might never be good enough to be an astronaut, it would have been better for me to go through life believing a lie about how one becomes an astronaut.

Xemnas81 · 2015-08-24T18:28:37+00:00

Those "some people" who believe that every man can be Chad Thundercock are wrong and are misrepresenting RP.

RP is "here is the truth; do with that what you will. There are sexual strategies designed to help you increase your attractiveness." RP doesn't make every man a Chad. But it can help a man figure out what he wants; and whether he can get there.

Look. I've said it before and I'll say it again. A man can improve one or two, maybe MAYBE three SMV points with lifting, dieting, and implementing RP. A man of SMV 4 is not going to improve to SMV 9. Just won't happen. He can get to 6, though, and attract an average woman.

He has to do the following:

--determine where he is objectively

--determine how much he can improve

--determine what he has to do to get there

--determine whether he is willing to do that

--determine whether the work is "worth it"

--determine whether he can be attracted to the women he can attract once he gets there

It's really just that simple.

PrimePussyOverRancid · 2015-08-24T18:08:59+00:00

If what they got out of TRP is "become a Chad" instead of self improvement and building up value in all aspects of your life, then yes.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2015-08-24T19:04:57+00:00

no, TRP provides knowledge and a forum. how a man applies that knowledge is up to him.

ECoast_Man · 2015-08-24T18:59:53+00:00

How is it a 'false hope' to teach men to be the best they can with the hand their dealt? That is essentially TRP. There are mod and EC posts complaining disparaging posts from Indian dudes asking 'is it hopeless'?

We aren't in the business of telling every nerdy looking Indian dude that they can magically become Chad Thundercock. What we are in the business of is seeing Indian dudes posting about how TRP changed their life, they're more competent, confident and being the best they can be.

jayden695 · 2015-08-24T18:46:18+00:00

Yes. The reality is most guys won't ever be Chad. Chad got to be chad because of hard work but also because he got extremely lucky with things like height/facial structure. If some 5'2 guy with a weird bone structure reads the TRP and thinks in 6 months you can be an alpha 10/10 he's sadly mistaken. Now what this guy can do is lift, read, and learn game, and maybe he can improve to a 6 or 7/10 which isn't great, but its a lot better than where he started out

[deleted] · 2015-08-24T19:09:56+00:00

No it doesn't give "false hope". I basically says, here how it is. Either you accept and better yourself or you don't and sub to exredpill

ManRAh · 2015-08-24T19:56:55+00:00

No, because so long as a man improves his life, even with a goal of sleeping with more women, he has improved and will be happier for it, even if his desired outcome is never fully realized. He may even grow to realize that such an outcome is not as important as he once thought.

[deleted] · 2015-08-25T00:07:02+00:00

Yes and no.

Yes if a man adopts all of the red pill. You can't get to anywhere good from a place of hate. He'll just grow more and more insular and bitter and narcissistic. Nothing in life will bring him real and lasting happiness.

No, if he can manage to sidestep all the hate and evo-psych rubbish and just go for the self-improvement side of things (with a few PUA-type techniques to aid in talking with women - teasing etc).

ppdthrowawai · 2015-08-25T15:06:47+00:00

I don't aspire to be Chad but look at Chad as a funny example of one extreme and why his ways are successful.

On the other hand, I've knocked more things off of my sexual bucket list in the past few months than I have in my entire life before that, so I wouldn't have believed it if the results weren't pouring in.

Title	Do you think TRP gives false hopes to some men ?
Author	HappilySingleWoman
Upvotes	4
Comments	37
Date	August 24, 2015 5:56 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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