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Should you ever use the word "date"?

rusty84

January 17, 2015
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Title Should you ever use the word "date"?
Author

rusty84

Upvotes 7
Comments 19
Date January 17, 2015 2:10 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2sqf4p/should_you_ever_use_the_word_date/
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[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Date is a four letter word in modern hook-up culture.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She wants free food next week.

These girls go into a situation treating you as a bitch before you even have a chance to express yourself. They're trying to impose that frame upon you. This is what she was doing with her phone and her general behavior. You can regard it as a shit test.

Frankly, I view it as a turn off. Find a bitch who wants to get real.

[–]rusty84[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I mean, I think she's a shitty person in general - she is very disorganized, a bit impulsive, messy car, no ambition, used to her rich dad buying her everything she needs, etc. I want to try to score, nothing else, how do I proceed, or should I just next her?

[–]grewapair 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A rich dad teaches her daughter how to use men for money. She's always going to get more from him than she can by working, so she doesn't even try anything else.

Just take off. It doesn't sound like you're getting anywhere but used.

[–]PowerVitamin 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

'Rich dad' buys her everything. You can stop right there; you have a fully born gold-digger beginning to end. Pure psychopath. If you honestly don't find her to be quality, don't waste much time. You can always invite her to group events to increase your SMV, but other than that, it appears some cold shoulder might improve your situation.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Set the frame. Do it your way. Offer something awesome, on YOUR terms. She'll object, you hold frame, you might lose her, and that's fine.

If that's not fine, you're outcome dependent and she'll sense that and use it and hence you for her needs.

Kiss at the end of date = standard "make him wait" girl-centric BB dating. Instead bounce a few times, kiss her as you're bouncing. Kino. cuddling. push. pull. expect shit tests. maintain frame. you can't win 'em all. and you don't have to.

[–]Split2nd5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Whether you say date or hangout does not influence a girls behavior during said encounter, your frame does. If she's being disrespectful, using her phone texting others during your time with her, nip that shit in the bud right then and there.

Anyhow, you're giving way too much thought into this girl. Next her if she's so shitty.

[–]Maaahoney 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. Even girls tell me they don't date.

[–]2RedPillSafe 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Dating was once the ONLY chance a woman had to practice Hypergamy. (1800's)

She needed to date as many men as she could attract and her hope was to attract the highest SMV man she could and then turn on her charm hoping he would be smitten and choose her.

A man might then send flowers to confirm his interests before asking for another date which was (of course) connected with a chaperone in order to prevent the temptations of the flesh from overcoming them.

If two men wanted the same women they could even challenge each other to a duel if they had insulted each others honor.

Dating was like an audition for men to assist women in her difficult choice. (which was for life)


That was the 1800's.

In the modern world the tables are reversed. You are the prize now and your "price" is paid by her sexual interest.

Dating is a relic of the Patriarchy when Hypergamy was illegal. It was the only time women were given choice. Those rules do not exist anymore. Women can fuck you, marry you, divorce rape you and the laws fully back her form of theft.

Do not date and pay because that sets you up as a Beta Bucks.

[–]operationzeem 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The problem isn't what you're calling the function, it's the amount of escalation you're doing. Waiting til the end of the date for the kiss? Yikes.

Be more assertive and kino/escalate a lot more a lot earlier. She shouldnt have time to be on her phone.

[–]doritoesNcoffee 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Men look at movies and think that kissing is something that's done at the end.

Wrong motherfucker.

Easiest way to do it is to be in a pub / bar setting. 1.) Do not sit across from your date, always sit next to them as it builds trust and feels comforting. 2.) Protip: Easiest way to escalate = Brüderschaft For those of you who don't know, it's some sort of a german tradition where you cross arms, drink a shot or just a sip of something and then have to kiss on the lips after. It works like a motherfucker.

Bam, you're done. If you sitting next to her and it doesn't work, or she declines to Brüderschaft with you. Then the problem is in you, you are a shitty date.

[–]DonDraperisTRP 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why did you wait to go for the Kiss at the end of the date ? You need to escalate physically way early in the date son

[–]rusty84[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She had closed body language and didn't tell me to stop touching her but she didn't seem too happy, so I stopped escalating. Real answer: I'm too much of a timid pussy to make a move. Ugh, I knew she was going to pull that on me at the end of the date. I know better. Argh. W/e

[–]ProductivityMonster 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sounds like a quick next. Maybe you're young, but as you get older, you learn to stop voluntarily associating with people who treat you poorly.

[–]bobbatosakosanose 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Date is basically the frame of being a beta provider trying to impress the woman. Its subconscious, but that's the frame in her mind. A "hangout" by nature seems more casual and it also allows you to bypass the 3 date rule some women keep. Hangout is pulling her into your own frame, because when you hangout, you do stuff you like.

[–]loin_fruit 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always say hangout instead of date. To me saying date makes it seem like I'm going to pay for them and I already look at them as a potential girlfriend while saying hangout sounds like anything can happen.

[–]SH00BIE_91 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would say tell her you no longer wanna date her. But think about it, women talk, and if it's against her ways to not kiss in first date/hangout or whatever, then perhaps she told someone like her girlfriend and said that she was scared to receive it. In all honesty, it wouldn't hurt to see her again. In whatever way you wanna consider it, either be date/hangout. It'll give you the upper hand and your body energy and confidence will be greater if you walk in with no expectations and are there just hanging out grabbing a bite. Women are more attracted to relaxed laid back guys who aren't making it obvious they want to get physical. From your second experience together you can better judge whether you wanna date her or even hangout with her. But remember, you tried the date mode already, now try the hanging out mode. This time, discipline yourself not to try any move. You'll confuse her, and she may realize you're not a damn kid whose playing games. So she may throw you a clear sign, and that my friend, will be your call.

[–]_BEENTRILL_ 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I say date because it sets a precedent as to what's going to happen : I'm going to escalate

Of course - I'm going to do the same if I call it a hangout but it's a good way to sort out those chicks who aren't interested at all. If a chick agrees to a date there's at least a semblance of interest

[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/asktrp.

This is the second time you've posted an asktrp question in the main sub, so you're banned.

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