If all women are more or less the same, why even bother avoiding the "crazy" ones?

dejour · 2014-08-21T00:50:39+00:00

The idea is that most women are attracted to similar things. It isn't that every woman is attracted to the same things, just that there is a pattern. And if you want to be an attractive man, you should be aware of it.

Think of it like this. The "red pill" for women would say that men tend to like pretty, slim, young, kind, positive women. If you want to be attractive to a lot of men, you should be slim, have a nice physical appearance, be young, be kind and usually be in a good mood. Not all men think like this. But for a given 30 year old man, he is more likely to be attracted to a 22 year old than a 46 year old. A given man is more likely to be attracted to a 120 pound woman than a 220 pound woman.

Obviously women differ in a lot of ways. And in other ways women are pretty much the same.

I would argue that all women require oxygen to live.

I would argue that women, as a group, are much more likely to be attracted to a leader than a follower. (This is akin to the pretty women rule. Not every woman will think this way, but it's a very common pattern).

I would argue than mental stability varies significantly between women. Generalizations like "All women are crazy", or "All women are mentally balanced" are not useful or accurate.

[deleted] · 2014-08-20T22:52:25+00:00

Like the Cheshire cat says, "We're all mad here."

But, some women are more difficult than others, and some men turn a blind eye to the capacity women have for evil crap they can pull. So to an extent you have a two-to-tango situation and men can sometimes dig their own little grave by inadvertently letting crazy women run over them.

The main thing men forget to do is walk away from and break up with crazy women. They get lured in by somebody that's really good looking, or they get lured in by having such a long dry spell they don't want to leave when they finally get in the hot tub. They get oneitis and that'll get them pushed around.

Red pill at least gives men some strategies so they don't get pushed around, and they tell men that beautiful women can lie, be mean, and be cruel just like anybody else can. Being female doesn't mean you're necessarily "nice," especially in an egalitarian world. And being beautiful doesn't mean you're nice either.

AshleyYakeley · 2014-08-20T21:52:52+00:00

However, I'm also wondering about TRP's definition of crazy...do you mean a literal mental illness (such as mine, which is genetic) or simply erratic behavior (which one could argue, judging by AWALT, that all women are totally capable of doing and probably will do)?

If they're sensible about it, they mean personality disorders.

DaThrowaway808 · 2014-08-20T21:57:55+00:00

What is crazy?

Crazy is usually a measure of how much ones thoughts or actions appear to be illogical. From a male perspective, crazy, aside from an actual medical condition, would be how much a woman allows her emotional state to dictate her actions because often times emotion isn't taken into account for logical action.

An example would be a man breaks up with a woman and asks for his apartment key back. She never saw the breakup coming so she goes through a flurry of emotions. Instead of just accepting that the relationship is over, she goes to his apartment during the day, smashes his favorite vase and leaves the key taped to the wall with a "SORRY ABOUT THE VASE" written on the wall in sharpee.

A logical male might expect her to meet him on some neutral ground and return the key in a civilized manner.

The "crazy" female might have gone through denial, which is why she went back to the apartment to talk to the male even though deep down she knew he would be at work. Then, she's angry at the reality of the breakup so she smashes the vase. Subsequently, she's depressed and realizes she did a bad thing and apologizes finally achieving acceptance and just leaving the key and the apartment for good.

Don't stick your dick in crazy is a way for a guy to save his vase because the vase means more to him than a night of sex. A week of sex on the other hand, well... he might be able to find a new vase.

[deleted] · 2014-08-21T00:15:19+00:00

This video explains the hot/crazy matrix: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU

cxj · 2014-08-21T08:49:11+00:00

Well, frankly, NAWALT. Some will keep entirely calm and composed confronting you about cheating on them, others will try and stab you for liking another girls instagram selfie.

The redpillers advising to avoid crazy women are correct in doing so, because there are virtually no consequences for insanely shitty female behavior and the legal system is set up to take anything and everything they say about you at face value, evidence or not. I know this from personal experience. I know I've told this story repeatedly on here, but my ex physically attacked me, trashed my house and stole my moms iphone over a text message she read in my phone from another girl about a hiking trip I declined to go on. I called the cops, who then arrested me because she lied and turned the entire story around on me.

THIS is crazy girl shit. I knew she was crazy, but was unaware of how insane the legal system is.

For the record, I do not like to use the word "crazy" as a blanket term for all girls. Again, NAWALT. Most girls get excessively emotional and behave irrationally from time to time (from the male perspective), but its in mild harmless ways. That doesn't make them crazy, it makes them girls. Likewise, most guys convey too much interest or stare too intently at a girl from time to time, and end up unfairly being labeled "creepy."

Hope this explanation helps.

an_absolute_rose · 2014-08-20T21:55:32+00:00

We try to avoid "key your car" and "poke holes in your condoms" crazy.

We don't care about OCD for the most part. We advise against saying bipolar girls or girls with dissociative identity disorder and other things of that nature.

This won't be a popular opinion, but I don't really think ADHD is a thing. Edit: looks like I've angered the addicts.

My sister has an anxiety disorder, and she is so much work to put up with. I would not want to date a girl an anxiety disorder.

Bakerofpie · 2014-08-20T22:00:05+00:00

We mainly talk about wildly erratic behavior, and not so much diagnosed mental illness (but I'm new and haven't read everything, so I may have missed a lot of it). And while most women are capable of it, some have the ability to control it. The difference lies in knowing if she's a lunatic or not. If you choose to mess with someone that shows crazy behavior before you get involved, you should expect to end up in jail at some point, and it's your own fault, for "sticking your dick in crazy." I'd guess a women with a legit, diagnosed issue would be better than a women that's just crazy for not reason. But as a general rule, many RP men just avoid any red flags they see.

masterrod · 2014-08-21T00:18:19+00:00

Energy... you only have so much energy.

duckducklandwhale · 2014-08-21T01:27:34+00:00

Havent you heard Buckcherry's song? A crazy bitch brings too many problems/annoyances. I mean you dont have to avoid em really, you generally avoid them for long term. See the hot crazy matrix.

PS having OCD doesnt make you crazy. Usually crazy being used colloquially means emotionally instable and not literally "having a mental deficiency"

yasee · 2014-08-21T03:12:37+00:00

OCD ftw!

I mean not really, but you know...represent

RedPill4LYF · 2014-08-21T05:38:06+00:00

There are degrees of crazy. When you get enough experience spinning plates the crazy ones who aren't worth the effort get easier to spot early on.

adrixshadow · 2014-08-21T07:52:45+00:00

TRP definition of crazy is where their problems make them harmful against us.

Yes feminism is its own set of crazy, just like cults are crazy.

[deleted] · 2014-08-21T07:22:04+00:00

as an admittedly crazy woman

that is not crazy...that is just cute :x

but my pros must outweigh my cons.

if you say so...

"Don't stick your dick in crazy?"

because crazy, low impulse control chicks are like crack, they make you week, they disconect your brain and you end up a junkie for her. And then she limits the supply just to increase your demand, you become a pawn at that point. Crazy bitches are pure lust, it's kriptonite, it flips even the strongest red pill man into a a blue pill style power balance and that is very unhealty.(shame on us, because we know it when it happens and we basically just watch in slow motion our own train wreck)

ALL women are crazy to some extent (right?) so a woman who displays "crazy" traits, one might say, is just behaving more transparently than all the other crazy women keeping it on undercover mode.

Very true, great observation, the issue is how unobtainable she is and how much self awareness she has. The more attractive women have less crazy and they have more self awareness, this make her less flaky and more of a "safe investment" of time and resources in the long run

A vilage troll however, is pulsating with insecurity, has almost no experience with highly actractime men gaming her, and she does not understand that real world logic, values and attitudes don't transfer when you get teleported to Tingle Town.

The biggest thing is emotional instability: BPD like, or bipolar conditions, when you go into schizoprenia or depresion those require a special type of man to love(one I would suspect is also emotionally sick)

I accepted my anxiety long ago and am working on it :)

(:)/<

ohh...internet hug : don't worry, the main point is to know just how stressful you can be and appreciate and be gratefull to your partner for understainding and putting up with it. I would rather have a OCS SO than a SJW SO anytime. At least you can't control yourself.

Theskepticalthinker · 2014-08-21T00:59:26+00:00

Often many men can't handle the passion of a "crazy" woman. I have always had a thing for women with a crazy side (as long as they are beautiful) but their craziness prevents them from recognizing my true potential. I have played therapist to numerous girls, without them even asking me to, and what do I get in response? Friendship. When I was born of high intelligence I felt I was promised a beautiful woman...then feminsm showed up and took her away from me. Now the only women who are actually open to sex with me are like 6s, at best. Le sigh.

Title	If all women are more or less the same, why even bother avoiding the "crazy" ones?
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Date	August 20, 2014 9:06 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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