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question about bluepill moderator ethics

lorrylorry

May 26, 2014
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Title question about bluepill moderator ethics
Author

lorrylorry

Upvotes 10
Comments 39
Date May 26, 2014 12:45 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/26hggl/question_about_bluepill_moderator_ethics/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/question-about-bluepill-moderator-ethics.285687
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"relenquishing your anger" is great advice for being beta

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[–]SigmaMuRP2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got banned the other day for posting a huffingtonpost article about lenient female sentencing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html

Pretty fucking dishonest. I expected better, but really, I should have known the apple didn't fall far from the SRS tree.

[–]asd1100 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Stop being a bitch, when you stepped out of /r/TheRedPill you knew the risks and the fact that most people will try to antagonise you.

Don't let them affect your frame, don't hate and for fuck sake don't use pasive agresive shaming tactics.

Be civil, present your views without jargon or "hate speech" and respond honestly.

Don't get you ego involved, don't try to persuade or "win", you are dealing with other human beings that are naturally curious but like us all they have some prejudice. Feed the curiosity, temper their prejudice.

[–]steelpuppy0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fair point and I agree with you but I see no reason why not question the ethics of some BPers.

[–]asd1100 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it's their game, their arena, their rules, their judges. MODS ARE GOD. and not the loving new testament kind, it's unfair but what isn't?

You can not win(they would freak out, trow a tantrum if you did and ask for a rematch), you can only play a great game, be a great person and clear up some of the prejudice and bias.

Today it will be me, tomorow you, next week her cousin becky will criticise feminism and slowly, their natural scepticism breaks free of their bias.

Then they put on balance(simplistically speacking of course but you can't reasonably ask for more) trp and tbp and when they do they see the fallacies of tbp and the coomon sense in the red pill, this will of course not make them RPW overnight, but they will join the fight against TBP society, because that is the enemy, not a SRS mod that only acts with anger out of fear and ingnorace.

Times are changing, women are starting to see how feminism leads to ruin, all we need to do is clean up the barrage and bullshit that separates us.

[–][deleted] 6 points6 points6 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What, we ran out of actual topics to discuss?

[–]steelpuppy1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Purple Pill Debate is a community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheRedPill and /r/TheBluePill.

From the sidebar. TBP is fare game. We always hear about evil TRP mods so I see no reason why not to discuss lack of ethic in a mod that is from a sub considering itself morally superior to TRP.

[–]DreamtrainNeither4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/r/TBP is a satire sub and their subscribers have deeply ingrained in them to hate TRP no matter what so, to them even if there's no factual proof, who cares, pretty sure TRP members would've said it anyways, right?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because if there's one thing red pill knows about, its factual proof.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol. These people created a subreddit to circlejerk about our sub. Nothing else. I don't know what you were expecting.

[–]assmunchinator1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

A lot of people love to dissect every single word the RP mods say. Funny how it is when its the other way around. Its "they don't care what the mods say" lol.

[–]myfriendscantknowAgent Orangered (BP Man)2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Why would we? None of this affects us blue pillers irl, which makes it differ from the intended purpose of TRP.

[–]assmunchinator1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So you say; a lot of people legitimately believe TRP is turning men into mass murderers thus "affecting them irl."

Either way the point is, people on TBP, including the mods, are willing to lie or omit context in order to make TRP look worse. Its like they're so blinded by their hatred, they'll do anything to make them look worse. Kind of sad they can't let it go.

[–]myfriendscantknowAgent Orangered (BP Man)2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I probably wouldn't say it's hatred in most cases. The users that lie or omit context are probably probably just hungry for content or karma whoring, and the mods that deleted that one post and banned the guy probably just didn't want that beef to play out in their sub. I know I, for one, don't really hate TRP. TRP isn't important enough for me to hate. I'm just a drama junkie looking for ridiculous people to bicker with, and SRS doesn't seem interested.

[–]steelpuppy0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

None of this affects us blue pillers irl

Considering how much people accuse it of being a "abuse&rape central" (trademark pending) apparently there is concern that it will affect them IRL.

[–]myfriendscantknowAgent Orangered (BP Man)1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Eh, only BPers that really don't understand statistics would think that. Even if every single subscriber on TRP was a rapist or abuser, it would be a statistical near-impossibility to even bump into one.

[–]steelpuppy0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Considering the amount of "my BF is a redpiller, help!" posts on other subs apparently it isn't a near-impossibility. Or those posters are just lying about it to paint TRP in as bad a light as possible. In that case it just shows how morally corrupt the "opposition" is.

[–]myfriendscantknowAgent Orangered (BP Man)2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Just because there are posts of that nature does not mean that it isn't extraordinarily unlikely. It's a big site.

[–]steelpuppy0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So apparently it does affect you in real life or "BPers that really don't understand statistics would think that".

[–]myfriendscantknowAgent Orangered (BP Man)1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh? I'm not really sure I conceded that, but ok lol.

[–]malachiteweapon 6 points6 points6 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Does the bluepill usually operate this dishonestly, and are users aware that it does?

Were you under the assumption that BPers are honest debaters and would never resort to dishonesty, deceit, or unscrupulous methods in order to "win?"

Here is something interesting I discovered about that place. I pointed out to the moderator in that post that she(?) made five unsubstantiated claims:

  • "This is linked to TRP because they're preying on insecure men, driving them to think all women are evil and deserve to be treated as though they have no meaning or humanity."

  • "There have been RP threads saying he wasn't alpha enough."

  • "There have been RP threads saying if he were more alpha, he would have killed more people."

  • "There have been many RP threads in the past saying they'd kill women or judges or whothefuck ever."

  • "We get it, the guy was a victim of TRP ideology."

The moderator provided nothing in her original post to support these assertions. In order to show that her second, third, and fourth claims above were true, she would have to provide at least two threads for each point.

I can still see the post when logged in, but it is not visible after logging out. Also, the "Submit link" button on the sidebar is also not visible when logged in, but is when logged out. Is this the infamous Reddit shadowban?

[–]un-affiliated2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a shadowban, which can only be handed out by site admins. It's a regular ban which can be handed out by subreddit moderators.

[–]MagicGainbowKeepin' it real, havin' a feel2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh, I just notice my submit link is gone too, care to explain mods?

[–]Unpopular_But_RightRed Pill1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They banned me after posting just twice. lulz.

[–]GODZILLAFLAMETHROWERBlue Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

From the sidebar:

  • Don't circlejerk. Avoid leading questions designed to put people on the defensive.

You're frustrated. No one gives a shit what you think of TBP mods.

[–]steelpuppy2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Also from the sidebar:

Purple Pill Debate is a community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheRedPill and /r/TheBluePill.

[–]GODZILLAFLAMETHROWERBlue Pill Man1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

a community to discuss sex and gender issues

I dont see butthurt feelings and reddit drama cited here

[–]steelpuppy1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The mod is misinterpreting TRP intentionally so I see no reason why not to debate that. It's not like this is a strictly formal debate sub.

[–]GODZILLAFLAMETHROWERBlue Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Because it's a lost cause? What do you want TBP to say here? We are not modding, for many of us we aren't even subbed to TBP. What shit do I give of the way a circlejerk subreddit stemming from SRS (which have the ban hammer very easy) goes on to discuss rationally with a RPiller?

And I am talking about me, but do you see a lot of BP contribution in this thread? It seems pretty obvious to me that no BP sees a way to have a discussion here. He marked his post as "Question for Blue Pill". It is disingenuous. Only Red Piller are interested to post here to circlejerk and say how horribly biased TBP is. Well, no shit.

Seriously, the only interesting info coming from this thread is that the Red Pillers posting here are just there for a good mutual circlejerk. How very interesting a debate!

[–]steelpuppy0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Because it's a lost cause? What do you want TBP to say here? We are not modding, for many of us we aren't even subbed to TBP.

How about agreeing on how (un)acceptable that sort of behavior is in general? It's not like a great deal of debate here isn't about ethics of this or that.

Seriously, the only interesting info coming from this thread is that the Red Pillers posting here are just there for a good mutual circlejerk.

You mean like when bluepillers come here to debate?

How very interesting a debate!

Then why are you here, in this thread to begin with? If it's boring to you then don't comment. I don't comment on a lot of threads here or in TRP or TBP for similar reasons.

[–]GODZILLAFLAMETHROWERBlue Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You mean like when bluepillers come here to debate?

A quick example:

http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/26g048/survey_about_general_rp_ideas/

You find the answers here to be a circlejerk mocking TRP? The BPillers seem to be disingenuous in their exposition? No debate is ever occuring in this sub?

[–]steelpuppy0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No debate is ever occuring in this sub?

I'm not saying no debate is occurring in this sub but there is a lot of "I'm morally superior to you" circlejerking going on.

Either way you came in here just to say how talking about ethic of a BP mod (them being representative of TBP) is circlejerking. Perhaps the OP is butthurt but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a valid point when asking:

Does the bluepill usually operate this dishonestly, and are users aware that it does?

That's a valid debate topic in a sub that aims to pit TRP and TBP.

[–]GODZILLAFLAMETHROWERBlue Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there is a lot of "I'm morally superior to you" circlejerking going on.

Wasn't TRP meant to be an amoral observation of gender dynamics?

So, yeah, people upholding moral values would tend to think that one interesting thing about their opinions is that they are morally more interesting than something amoral.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There are plenty of men who browse TBP who are mild versions of Eliot. Remember, Eliot prescribed to PUAhate and hated the redpill message, and in my view he was calling himself "alpha" ironically

[–]Those_Who_RemainIrrelevant Homosexual2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And there are plenty of men who browse TRP who are mild versions of Eliot as well. The misogyny that Eliot made clear in his Manifest is also commonly voiced in TRP.

There's no use in pointing fingers in which 'camp' Elliot belongs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Considering TBP is dogmaless, and TRP has a dogma that opposes Eliot, I would say you're wrong

[–]Those_Who_RemainIrrelevant Homosexual2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I could quote several examples of Elliot's manifest that literally are the same as certain RP ideas.

I'm not saying he was more RP or BP (since it is a ridiculous comparison to begin with), but to deny Eliot had some things in common with both is just plain ignorance.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lolwhut?

[citation is so fucking needed right now]

[–]CFRProflcopter( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please, please, please, edit your post and black out the BluePill OP in your screenshot. I heard that some people might be PMing him, which I don't think is something we want. But thanks for using NP links. Let me know when you're done.

Also, I'm not sure this is a good topic for this sub. I'm pretty sure if the topic of this post were reversed to "redpill mods operating dishonestly," I'd get lots of shit for leaving it up. Do you have a reason you think it should stay? Perhaps you could frame the post more neutrally? Let me know what you think.

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