So, i have some questions....

lokidemon731 · 2013-12-23T23:53:16+00:00

I want to start by saying I'm glad you're over here. Your first mistake was going on /r/TheBluePill and assuming it was a voice for blue pill thought. It's not, it's just a circlejerk for laughs.

Answers to your questions:

We all rate each other based on physical attraction, I think, and we all have preferences of what we are attracted to. Being the sexiest person in the planet isn't necessary, but I see no sense in dating someone I am not sexually attracted to. That's what friends are for.
Most of them? TRP seems to imply women don't like sex more than TBP. Or they say that if a woman likes sex, she gets off on pleasing a man and not on her own physical pleasure because ego and whatnot.
No one is obligated to want anything. Not sex, not a relationship. Where did that come from, if I might ask?
I don't know, because the world is harsh and we're flawed human beings?
I don't know, maybe?
People should assert their own needs and compromise if necessary.
People should assert their own needs and compromise if necessary.
If you're talking about domestic violence, women are more frequently the sole abuser. If you mean in general, I think both sexes have it in them to be abusive.
Didn't we establish in #2 that women also feel better in life when they are sexually satisfied? So why are they not included in this? Also, if a man OR woman is not sexually satisfied in their relationship, they should certainly discuss their desires with their partner. They have every right to leave. They do NOT have the right to make their partner feel obliged to have sex with them because it will make them feel better. Remember how we talked about men not being obligated to want a relationship, even if it would make a girl feel better in life? Same applies here.

About your friendzone stories: why do you think it's noble to have sex with a woman you know wants more from you, even though you're unwilling to give her what she wants? But if a woman wants neither sex nor a relationship from a man, that's not fair? Because you'd have sex with a girl you're not into? What?

I commented on the sex tool thing over at TBP, so that concludes my thoughts.

KittyHamilton · 2013-12-24T01:39:06+00:00

I'm not sure rate is the right word, but they certainly pay attention to them .
Most women do, though of course their preferences vary.
They're not.
TRP deserves it.
Nah. TRP displays a problematic worldview that deserves to have attention drawn to it.
No
No
It's possible, depending on what's being measured.
It's okay for a wife not to want to have sex with her husband. She's entitled to her own needs and desires, or lack there of. The question is what the husband wants, and if the couple can meet each other halfway and compromise. If compromise is impossible, then it may be best for the relationship to end. Note that I am talking about lack of sex in a relationship over the long term. It is absolutely reasonable for one partner or the other to not want to have sex the other wants on occasion, and that's perfectly fine.

slothsie · 2013-12-24T02:27:12+00:00

Reposting this from the blue pill thread.

Dont women rate men by their looks?

Yes, but so do men. I don't know where men seriously get this impression personality was everything, for fuck's sake I had teen heart 'throb' pictures plastered on my walls when I was a tween. I've stated this before and I'll state it again, personality is now equally as important to looks because women are no longer expected to marry the first guy to show interest in her.

Dont women like to fuck?

I love sex, but it depends entirely on the situation. I cannot have sex with a 'male' friend. SO's and ONS'

Edited to add Red Pillers can't shame women and then be upset when they don't want to have sex. I like sex, but the general consensus over there is that I'm a slut not worth anything but for my 'holes' to put their dick in. Think of how you'd feel if your whole being was reduced to that.

Why are men obligued to want a relationship?

You aren't obliged, but if you want a girl who wants to be in a relationship, you either go into a relationship with her or leave her alone. One of you will get hurt, the man because he can't have sex, which according to RP, he so desperately deserves just because he's a man, her because you jerked her around emotionally, which by RP standards, isn't nearly as bad. Because getting a fleshlight isn't an option.

Why so much hate?

What about the huge hate on for women? I don't hate men, I just hate the one's who tell me that I'm a childish sort of human being that will never mature and will hit the wall when I'm 30 and that my life is over and I might as well commit suicide. I also hate the implication that because some women have hurt these men, they imply that I will because I'm an evil evil woman and I get off on men being emotionally or financially hurt. AWALT amrite?

Dont you think that having all this hate here completly focused on them only makes them stronger?

Maybe, but it also shows how fucking ridiculous they are.

Should a man say yes to everything a woman asks? Should a woman say yes to everything a man asks?

Compromise. In this regard, create a dynamic that works for both partners. Communication is key here.

Dont you think it is possible that women abuse as much as men?

Yes, and they shouldn't. Men complain about the fact that there are more resources for women escaping DV, stop complaining and make your own fucking shelters and resource centres. Also, LEAVE. Same advice I'd give a woman.

If you know man naturally need sex to feel better in life, is it okay for a wife to no want sex with her husband?

I think it's important to communicate here. But yes a wife should have sex with her husband, and if they no longer they have revisit the state of their marriage.

The diference is that even if i dont like a woman, if she asks me for sex i might say ok and dont make a mess about it, but that doesnt happen the other way around, and women get very angry and hysterical if a friend wants sex and they dont.

As I stated above, I'm not interested in sex with a friend. Actually I had a friend proposition me with that a few months ago, I politely declined. This is me personally, but I cannot do that. Sorry, and to assume others might is just going to hurt you in the long run.

Reframe your existence to 'those I find who want to have sex with me, want to have sex with me, those who I meet and do not, do not, but that doesn't mean they're terrible people who deserve to be called awful things'.

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alphabetmod · 2013-12-24T06:35:44+00:00

Dont women rate men by their looks?

Absolutely. But, I think women are more complex in what they're attracted to than men.

Dont women like to fuck?

Yes, they like to fuck men that they're attracted to.

Why are men obligued to want a relationship?

Men are not obliged to want a relationship. In fact, nowadays women are much more open to casual sex than they have been in the past. Can you expand on this question?

Why so much hate?

TBP users each have their own special reason for hating TRP. Some don't like what they call the pseudo science, ego-psych that they see in TRP, some don't like what they call the misogyny in TRP, and I'm convinced some don't like men period (but that's just my opinion)

Dont you think that having all this hate here completly focused on them only makes them stronger?

I personally like some of the posts on TBP because they're pretty goddamn funny. I'm not sure the hate really benefits or harms TRP, but I do think that people that claim to hate it wouldn't spend so much time talking about it unless there was some other reason to be doing so besides hate. What that reason is, I'm not really sure. I like some of TRP partly because it discusses politically incorrect subjects and I think there's some truth to some of the theories. But saying that men and women are more different as genders than people are different as individuals seems to garner a lot more hate than I feel is warranted, and I think people are scared of that (what I see as) reality. For whatever reason.

Should a man say yes to everything a woman asks? Should a woman say yes to everything a man asks?

These seem to come out of left field and lack any kind of context.

Dont you think it is possible that women abuse as much as men?

It's not only possible, it's a fact.

f you know man naturally need sex to feel better in life, is it okay for a wife to no want sex with her husband?

I think I place more importance on sex than some of TBP, as well as some of the MGTOWS. Obviously sex is not a "need" like food or water or shelter but as this thread shows , for some reason it generally seems to be something that is "needed" differently somehow for men and women respectively.

And my view that will probably be very hated here is that women fighted for equal rights like they should, and we as a society made alot of progress on the last decades in that field, but most of you still grow with being the princess in your head

I kinda see what you're saying here, though I understand why you got some hate for it in TBP. Feminism has 100% achieved equal legal rights for women, and I'd say if you factor in reproductive rights, women actually are more than equal to men under the law. The thing is, imo, with these equal rights, in some cases the social responsibilities have not come hand in hand with the rights. For example: Men are still having to sign up for the draft. Men still work the most dangerous jobs. Men still have to watch their language around women in the workplace lest they be fired for sexual harassment. Men are expected to and held responsible for drunken sexual encounters. Many women still expect chivalrous behavior in certain situations while calling it sexist in others. (men are guilty of this as well) Often there is discussion of the "glass ceiling", but rarely any mention of the "concrete floor."

I could go on, but I hope I have answered most of your questions from what I would consider to be a somewhat neutral if not a little redpill leaning perspective.

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