How do I learn to enjoy conversation?

leodoestheopposite · 2015-03-10T14:37:24+00:00

Here's my suggestion: take a Myers Briggs personality test. My bet is that you are an Introvert, and Introvert can be social too.

You're also probably smart, smart than the average crowd out there, you can do idle chat for a bit, but not much more than that; you enjoy conversations with people who contribute to the conversation so that it becomes a good conversation all around, a bit deeper than the weather, fashion, of the latest drink.

If you are looking for these type of conversations in bars and clubs with the average girls you're going to have a bad time.

So, what's the solution? The Red Pill is the solution. Develop your career and your hobbies; which also means to attend trade and industry events (career) and meets (hobbies); that's social life where you will meet like minded people, and people know like-minded people; your goal is to get in touch and stay in touch with like-minded people, some of them are going to be females that you will be interested in, and vice versa.

Note: this an a very autobiographical comment.

soccerplusaviation · 2015-03-10T11:36:29+00:00

You kinda have to create your own fun with girls when it comes to convos. Very few girls are actually fun to talk to. If you want motivation to continue. Just focus on the pussy,

mordanus · 2015-03-10T15:38:56+00:00

I saw the title and thought maybe you were talking about chatting with guys and figured you might have some problems. Then I saw it was about girls and got a chuckle. Here's the secret. No woman is that interesting to us.

You have to realize that women will use you like they use a diary. They will take a verbal dump on you every damn chance they get because blabbing about nothing is their default setting.

What you need to do is to focus on you in the conversations. Take lead in them and don't let her get going unless you have something else to pay attention while she tells you ever single fucking detail about her eye makeup and why one shade of blue is a much better choice to go with the shading on her new hairstyle.

Women wait to be entertained because their time is filled with men fighting over the privilege to exactly that. Men compete with each other just to get a chance at making a woman laugh. Women wait while men act. This is the same with almost everything between the genders.

So stop treating women as if they were men. Stop expecting anything they say to matter or make sense or be worth paying attention to. Most of what women say is mindless crap. If you don't agree to that then ask the women around you some tough questions and laugh at the responses. Most likely they will have never put the brainpower to answering something like that.

So go out and get some guy friends to chat with to find intellectual fulfillment and leave the women to be women.

dashing_nash · 2015-03-10T14:46:44+00:00

Some women have zero personality and get by on their looks.. And they will sit and wait for attention. They're usually not that into you they just want that validation. If they are really feeling your vibe they'll make some effort.. But when it come to chatting to women online you gotta remember they're already getting heaps if attention.. If you don't entertain/validate them someone else will..

So either you gotta be funny.. Fucking entertain them or entertain yourself.. Or you gotta be alpha nice car, ski holiday pics, pics sitting in a bentley, or shreadded from gym work and have photos showing your incredible physique, or seriously good looking. Alternatively you gotta drop your standards. - online dating is for pussies I'm starting to think.. It's geared towards women and puts you in a beta position.

I've never felt women weren't conversationally engaging in real life situations.. But on dating websites they're annoying.. It's like trying to get blood from a stone..

TheGillos · 2015-03-10T11:49:53+00:00

Yea it gets annoying. If you want good conversation you are really limiting your options. This isn't even a problem specific to women. Ever try to talk to random guys? A lot are just as conversationally flaccid and uninspiring.

Just like being stuck watching a bad movie or playing a bad video game you need to entertain yourself. Either that or immediately next women who reply to questions and comments with the style and interest of a retarded illiterate with 1 finger who's also on fire.

R1fle · 2015-03-10T16:17:51+00:00

Be in control of the convo. Talk about what you want to talk about and sound awesome when you do talk about it.

M: Ever seen Supernatural?

G: No.

M: Same. Heard it's like Twilight.

G: So bad?

M: You don't like Twilight?

G: WTF? WHO LIKES TWILIGHT LOL.

M: I do. It's the fucking best.

G: Isn't it about Werewolves, Vampires, and love?

M: Yea, soft-core bestiality. That's my shit.

You can walk away at this point. But they'll likely open up to you more easily since you just owned up to liking Twilight, quite possibly the gayest thing of all time. I pulled this scenario completely out of my ass btw - but that's pretty much how to not have a boring convo. BTW, idk anything about Supernatural or Twilight. Point is it doesn't matter. Act as if you spontaneously just had to ask someone about that TV show, and that person just happened to be the closest person nearby.

-Awake- · 2015-03-10T20:37:49+00:00

You're trying to have conversations, stop. Instead try to have fun at their expense. Tease them, be illogical, tell them far fetched stories (I tell girls about "work", a facility where I clone humans), be hot then cold for no reason, start drama and push her buttons with a laid back air. All of these things are fun, trying to interview a girl is not. "so what kind of music do you like". Oh god. No. Not that. Anything but that. And she feels the same way. Start using these girls for your personal lighthearted entertainment and both of you will enjoy each others company

fastball21 · 2015-03-10T22:50:30+00:00

What do you think about when you're alone? That's what you're interested in, and that's what you can talk about. If she's not interested in that then just go back to thinking about it.

sigmayogi · 2015-03-10T20:53:18+00:00

You have to amuse yourself. They are usually not your intellectual equals. It's all about feelZ thrillZ and validation with 99% of them.

Exactly_what_I_think · 2015-03-10T20:13:25+00:00

The Fine Art of Small Talk How To Start a Conversation, Keep It Going Build Networking Skills

Learning to talk (with noting to talk about) will help more then you think.

Title	How do I learn to enjoy conversation?
Author	riverraider69
Upvotes	9
Comments	18
Date	March 10, 2015 11:17 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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