Seems like if you're a male virgin who hasn't been successful with women after a certain age, you'll always be haunted even if you have success later on.

SkorchZang · 2015-04-19T07:31:16+00:00

No special handicap for you bro. It's all the same handicap, blue pill social programming.

Now you get to feel sick to the stomach because you "missed out". That amazing wonderfulness, women in their prime! What can compare to that? This where you need to think "chimpanzee fuckholes, it's all about the same", but you don't think that, the thought does not even arise. As you can see, that's still the same programming in the driving seat, still the same "stay ashamed, worship women" ideology.

If you were to have been born in a different (male primary) culture, you would not give a SINGLE FUCK about "certain experiences" with women you supposedly missed. You'd worry instead about horses, weapons, and honour in the eyes of other men. There are certain horses and riding techniques you can only master when you're at a young age... how you have missed out, you will never be right in the head now, since all the other men in the villages look upon you as lesser for it.

It's not the past that's haunting you, it's the present. As I see it, your present day self still has beliefs about being fundamentally inadequate. Your upbringing is one thing, you didn't have a say. But now as an adult, you're bringing yourself up yourself. Whose fault is it, then, that those beliefs remain unexamined and "haunting", as if they were intangible ghosts you can do nothing about?

grendalor · 2015-04-19T08:53:34+00:00

Honestly you seem to be kind of fixated on this concept (based on this post and your other one from yesterday) that the college days are some kind of sexual pinnacle, and it's all downhill afterwards.

In reality, the college days are a bubble. It's very artificial, because it's walled off. And it's also very much a continuation of high school, unsurprisingly, where there are exaggerated winners and losers, cliques, and most people lose out. It isn't a great experience for most people other than a few who fit with the very specific system in that particular bubble. For the people who do, then, yes, it's a time of huge sexual access. For the people who don't, which is most people, it's just a period you get through and you move on.

The time afterward is in no way "inferior", it is merely different. It's your personal choice as to how to relate to the time that came before. If you choose to see yourself as damaged, or choose to retain hate and anger at women for having "sexual access that men don't have", or choose to see yourself as fundamentally having missed out on something so unique and special that you will always be lacking as a result -- that's your choice. It's a bad choice, in my opinion, because as a man you have so many years, and so many more years, to go about this than a woman does, you're basically getting annoyed that you didn't "enjoy" the frontloading of the process like women do. Women pay a price for that in terms of the wall, which men don't, at least not until much later.

So much of the anger and resentment we see from men in these threads is that they aren't women, in effect. It's mind-boggling, and probably reflects the influence of feminism and the feminized psychology that to have seeped into the entire culture. Its unfortunate, really. Men ought not be wishing they were like women and enjoying that kind of sexual access from 15-30 -- because we're not women. As men, unless we are among the very few, we peak in our access from, say, 26 to 46 and beyond. It's a much larger window than it is for women, and in our time there is pretty much zero pressure on men to get married. You can, if you set yourself up, well more than "make up for" anything you "missed out on" in college, whereas for women, they generally can't. Yes, there are some women who are very hot into the 40s (one sits right in front of my office at work), but they are a tiny percentage, whereas it's quite normal for men who are fit at 40 to have access to a wide swath of age ranges of women. That's the advantage of being a man. It doesn't feel that way when you are sub-25 and not one of the few male "winners" in that low age category, but over the long term that's how it works for men. As a result, as a man you need to keep your eyes focused on the future, and its possibilities, rather than worrying about what you may have "missed out on" before you were 22.

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-04-19T08:27:45+00:00

Dealing with loneliness is a part of becoming Red Pill. Years of solitude should hopefully harden you and give you mental independence. Once you have the mindset of being able to walk away at any moment, you will be completely free.

RPMahoutsukai · 2015-04-19T09:11:07+00:00

What prevents you from getting young pussy when you're over 25?

Is it really that hard in America? IDK, in Russia I just walked down the street / into a McCafe, approached, took number, invited to date, bla bla bla, sex.

I've lost virginity at 18 but I too missed "getting drunk partying and hooking up" since I was in LDR for ~2 years and boring LTR for ~2 years and then married unhappilly for ~6 years. Why should I care? Yeah I fucked up big time. Gotta move forward anyways!

Besides, is that really so important to fuck random girls at drunken parties? If anything it's just an extra chance to get STD's / rape accusations.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-04-19T13:01:15+00:00

"...it is like this one powerful feeling that you get which makes you feel so pathetic for not getting any sex during those years of your life."

Sex isn't "gotten" it's "given".

That's the root problem, you are still imagining that women are "above" you and granting sex to you.

The Pain only exists when you see things upside down. (Beta)

The better way to think is:

"No Charm, No Love"

...this philosophy keeps you protected from Pain (foolish Love mixed with Lust) and allows you to see reality clearly.

Pain is ignorance of Truth. (it's longing and neediness of a lost mother figure)

The Pain feels like:

"Where is my mommy? I want my mommy."

Do not be a "motherfucker" who seeks to calm your Pain with a woman's approval.

sigmayogi · 2015-04-19T15:03:30+00:00

Yep. I was way into twenties. Have zero respect for women. Do not want kids or family, and am only interested in personal success. I really don't give a fuck about my mother acting upset at me not wanting a family and not providing her with grand kids. She fucked me up with her man-hating nonsense. I can't put any trust into women because deep down I feel they all hate men and feel above them. I don't think I am wrong and therefore refuse to participate in family game.

I wouldn't say that I feel less of a man, but I do feel like most people I meet have very little to no ability to understand me or my background.

beltwaytr · 2015-04-19T07:37:30+00:00

I used to think that way too until I realized most of the guys in my graduating class are fathers and are now tied to women that mean nothing to them.

Don't dwell on what you didn't do in your teens, cause chances are it wouldn't of been worth it. It's one thing to have had all the knowledge you have now, but who here can really say they were a red pill prophet in their teens? Not many if any.

I used to think of all the women I would of been able to sleep with and the majority of them look disgusting now and have too many kids with no dads. I look at it as dodging bullets.

cock_pussy_up · 2015-04-19T11:56:01+00:00

Not getting sex at a young age means not accumulating baggage. The women who had lots of sex when they were young can end up as used up leftover alpha widows with STDs, abortions, bastard kids, wizard sleeve vaginas, bitterness, and an inability to ever get the type of attention or quality of men they got when they were young and hot. The men who had lots of sex when they were young, partied and drank, can end up washed up losers with drug problems who are upset that they're not cool and popular anymore.

supertramp80 · 2015-04-19T12:07:54+00:00

It's not WHEN you have sex, it's THAT you have sex. Whether you're 16 or 60, with a girlfriend or with an escort EVERY man should experience sex at least once or twice. IMHO

Boraat · 2015-04-19T10:17:34+00:00

Oh such bullshit!

If you are getting fresh pussy right now, who cares what happened 10-12 yrs ago. This just screams weakness to me.

Fucking a 20 yr old as a 30 yr old is much more fun as well.Just stay away from wall nearing chicks.

cariboo_j · 2015-04-19T07:26:49+00:00

Can confirm I'm 26 now and I feel like shit for this very reason. Being around a girl who gives the impression that she has been around with hot guys, not matter how sweet and LTR worthy makes me feel sick and I despise her guts for it.

I guess I will always be fucked in the head and despise women knowing how much access to sex they have from an early age, meanwhile most guys get hardly anything despite their perceived best efforts.

Transmigratory · 2015-04-19T10:43:19+00:00

Depends on your mental fortitude. If pussy is extremely meaningful in your life, it may fuck you up.

If it isn't and/or you have a strong mind to realise things are what they are... You won't be fucked up.

exit_sandman · 2015-04-19T08:55:01+00:00

I remember having read more or less exactly the same text a few months ago?

That said, I still agree. I mean, I am one of the unfortunate crowd and I would be lying if I said that having gone through experience didn't impact me.

darxxide · 2015-04-19T06:55:28+00:00

Yes, at least for me that's exactly how it feels. Lost my virginity at 28, now I'm 31, and you just put down my taught exactly.

cocaine_face · 2015-04-19T08:27:07+00:00

I lost my virginity fairly young (17), but I had no game, and I was short, scrawny, and feminist. I didn't have sex for another 2 years, and then with a fat online girlfriend who lived a few states away. I had one normal relationship in college with an ugly girl who got progressively fatter as we dated. I didn't get better until I discovered PUA at 26. 26 is a very late age to start picking up on things other people did at 13.

Would I say it has affected my view of relationships? Absolutely. I see no point of settling down, I don't really care to be in a relationship. I enjoy going to spots like young people (21-25) bars and even rarely a frat party - because why the fuck not? Not like I did it as a kid.

The only thing that stops me from just going around every weekend going after girls is wanting to build something successful.

dragonthingy · 2015-04-19T11:18:38+00:00

I didn't hook up or have sex until uni, but I don't let what could have happened to me in High School or the rest of uni if I knew what I knew now (in retrospect many opporutunities weren't taken and many things shouldn't have been done) get in the way of my life.

I look back on mistakes or other things like that from my past, and instead of letting them turn into mouldering resentment and regret, I always find a lfe lesson to learn from it to make myself better for now and the future. One of the key tenents I read somewhere on this subreddit was "Be the best you you can be", and I think learning from your mistakes and living without regret is a part of that.

I think that if you were a male virgin who hasn't been successful with women after a certain age, you won't be haunted even if you have success later on if you have a positive outlook and put things into perspective.

TLDR; Learn from your mistakes, don't turn them into regret.

RPSigmaStigma · 2015-04-19T12:33:11+00:00

My wife and I were actually talking about this recently. We have an old mutual friend who was a kissless virgin until he was about 27, and she was saying how she thinks men need to get laid in their teens or at least early 20s or else they "just start to get weird." This came up because we were watching Californication and the episode where Hank hires a hooker for his manchild bastard son. I told her "this might not make sense to you, but if we had a son like that, I would definitely buy him a hooker, just to get it over with." I was surprised when she agreed. She says she can tell in an instant if a guy didn't get laid early in life just by how "weird" he is.

TruthOverLiez · 2015-04-19T17:48:35+00:00

I got laid when I was 17 and I'm currently 19 right now. I believe you're putting pussy on a pedestal. Stop looking at the past and focus on the present and future.

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