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Vile nest of unveiled thorns, not previously discussed?

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May 9, 2015

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I cheated on my bf the last night before I moved in with him. The person I cheated with is my true love. Truth is, I'm only with my current bf because he's best for my children.

I have a genius level IQ, multiple prestigious degrees, etc...I was sure my kids would be brilliant, too. They are avaerage. I love them to the ends of the earth, but...f-ing idiot husband. I married him for his looks

I want to have a little girl but am afraid she'll be fat and ugly like all the women on my husband's side of the family.

One drunken night, I texted the ex. He responded and we are talking again. I orchestrated a huge fight to break up with the guy I was with so that I can get back with my ex. It worked.

my ex bf of 10 yrs....Cant stop thinking of him. He was my first love, and although I've been married for 5 years and have children. ..I still think of what could have been. I dream of him almost every night.

I legit hate my husband probably 90 percent of the time.

These come from here.
I made a search on the sub and was surprised to find no previous discussion of this forum where women celebrate their wickedness and vileness in plain open view.
It's literally disgusting and of course eye-opening.I've been reading the redpill for months so my eyes have been opened.. but somewhere this feel like I've been taken to a next level, deeper.
This seems to be an open window into raw and deep-seated female psychology, and how repulsive the view is.

Who are these women?Are all women like this?Of course they are.. aren't they?

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Title	Vile nest of unveiled thorns, not previously discussed?
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	56
Comments	51
Date	May 9, 2015 1:21 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/35e4e3/vile_nest_of_unveiled_thorns_not_previously/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/vile-nest-of-unveiled-thorns-not-previously.32373 https://theredarchive.com/post/32373

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[–]1aguy0116 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]racist_fart_sniffer-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't think any sane person denies that there are corrupt psychopathic police officers out there that ruin lives. I just think that the issue, when put side to side with the black menace and the problems of black disorder, anti-white violence and violent crime, pales in comparison to such a degree that it is preposterous to even compare the two.

The issue of police brutality is the fly buzzing around you that won't go away no matter how you try to swat it. The issue of the black menace is the psychopathic lunatic that breaks into your house at night and gang rapes your wife while gouging your eyes out with a steak knife.

Just look at the statistics for black crime. They are the most criminal, dangerous, vicious, racist, violent group in the country - who openly declare their support for unmentionable thugs and criminals like saint Trayvon or the good boy Mike Brown, and seem utterly unfazed by any evidence or logical argument, no matter how sharpened by the blade of reason it may be. When a scumbag is taken out by police, they burn down their communities and attack innocent white civilians.

This is due to their overall intellectual inferiority and inability to live in a civilization in large numbers. There is a consistent 1 SD difference between the average IQ of whites and blacks, that is present in every test ever trialed, in every country it has been performed in, by every research team that has ever tried it, in every iteration for the past 100 years. This difference has been shown to exist cross culturally and across economic lines.

Only lunatic leftists deny this, with their endless evasions and obfuscations "but poverty!", "but socioeconomic conditions!", "but race is a social construct". These are the same people that think that women are equal to men (again, despite women having never achieved anything of any significant merit, ever, at any point).

This sub readily sees through the bullshit that women are somehow just as capable as men, and rightly so, because there is literally no evidence that this is the case. It is literally a falsehood, by any metric by which we choose to measure it. Yet when the issue of blacks comes up, all of a sudden this sub accepts all the leftist blank-state dogmas and swallows down the cock of 21st century egalitarianism wholeheartedly, and even celebrates in that fact.

The history of the world, also known as reality, bears out my position. Blacks have never achieved anything of any significant merit, ever, at any point in time. Literally all of the gains of human civilization have come from European, Jewish, and Asian men. I consider America "European" as it is basically the creation of badass English intellectuals,, "the founding fathers", who carved a country and a dominant civilization out of the aether by sheer force of will and intellectual might alone.

Again, no women have ever done such a thing, nor have any blacks. The issue of police brutality is minuscule compared to this.

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[–]racist_fart_sniffer0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

1 SD in IQ is roughly 15 points. Non-hispanic whites have an average IQ of roughly 100. A 100 IQ person would likely be incapable of understanding this conversation or even the concept of a standard deviation. That's just to demonstrate how dumb the average person actually is, even among the white race.

American blacks have an average IQ of 85. This used to be the cut-off point to classify mental retardation, but was changed when it was realized how many blacks would therefore be classified as retards. The American black IQ is only this high due to the fact that they roughly have 25% white admixture. American blacks are wholly incapable of intelligent conversation or of understanding reason or logic. For every 120 IQ black outlier there are tens of thousands of 70-85 IQ morons.

African blacks score even lower, with an average of around 70. This is the intelligence of the true nigger, and explains why they have contributed nothing to civilization at any point in history, ever.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]soyleux0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not that I disagree with you. I'm not wed to the idea that everyone is equal or consider talking about such things taboo.

I just don't particularly care. You can avoid poor black areas and avoid putting yourself in sketchy situations. If they're rioting and you're not there, what does it matter? If you do become a victim of one of them, you can be reasonably sure that some kind of justice will be done. Maybe not the extent that you'd like or that will prevent repeat offenses, but there will definitely be some sanction.

But redpill isn't just seeing what is outside the matrix but also seeing the matrix itself and how it operates. Crimes by police officers are illegible to the system - they literally do not exist, meaning there is no way justice can ever get served. Police are also everywhere so you cannot really avoid them. And they're actually worse in areas with less real crime as they have nothing better to do. From my perspective, that's a much more insidious threat.

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[–]1DRMMR761 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

People can downvote this all they want, but there is a ring of truth. The statement that everyone has the ability to act with savagery is true and as with women having no checks and balances, black males are another group where the checks and balances on their behavior have been removed. Many lack any semblance of family structure, and any sense of right or wrong, cultural shaming for violent and destructive behavior, or sense of morality or self-respect has been replaced with a gangster culture that champions thuggery, base tribal behavior, violence to prove manhood, and pride in destroying what others have built. There is a disease festering in the heart of black youth culture, and it is as destructive as women's unchecked sexual instinct, and for the same reason. Like it or not, society and civilization are one of the main things that separate us from animals and prevent us from acting in such nihilistic and destructive manners as might destroy everything. When a group is taught to ignore those societal checks, or even actively tear them down (as women have been, as young black males have been) is causes a breakdown in society at large and reaps only destruction. Women have been taught to cry sexism every time anyone says their behavior at the expense of others is a bad idea. And blacks have been taught to do the same with racism. Now everything ruinous and destructive is permissible or even celebrated as rebelling against "the white man" as women do with raging against "patriarchy". They even go as far as far as to ostracize any black who does not take part as an Uncle Tom or being "too white". There is a problem here and it will only be fixed when blacks realize that they are the cause of their own problems, and often the cause of others problems. Frankly they need to let go of the rebellious childish temper tantrum and just grow up as a culture.

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[–]Ochreata1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The capacity for similar genetic expressions of intelligence, temperament etc is more relevant. The idea that genes are hard wired differently to different races is not particularly relevant in light of the fact that genes can switched on and off by environmental factors.

The main reason for any particular population to have higher expressions of innovation is more related to the access of, and quality of, the resources available them. Even within a population group the lower classes tend to be of lower intelligence and have lower impulse control, they also have lower access to the population's resources. Particularly time....

As for white European and Jewish innovation...Europeans we can say maybe the last 2500 years, the Ashkenazi the last few hundred only. Earlier innovation was Northern African, Mesopotamian, Persian etc.

[–]racist_fart_sniffer-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The idea that genes are hard wired differently to different races is not particularly relevant in light of the fact that genes can switched on and off by environmental factors.

This is casuistry, plain and simple. So the fact that genes can be turned on and off renders irrelevant the fact that those genes are different in the first place? Nonsense. This depends entirely on the extent to which genes can be affected by the environment, which you haven't quantified in any real sense. You've just declared that genetic differences are therefore "irrelevant". It may take an environmental extreme to "turn on" genes to such an extent that a native 1 S.D gap in intelligence is therefore rendered irrelevant. Such an extreme may be extremely rare, or not even exist at all. I've seen no evidence at all that the epigenetic affect is consistently stronger than the hereditarian.

The main reason for any particular population to have higher expressions of innovation is more related to the access of, and quality of, the resources available them. Even within a population group the lower classes tend to be of lower intelligence and have lower impulse control, they also have lower access to the population's resources.

This is leftist dogma that has been thoroughly disproved. Wealthy blacks perform worse than average whites.. There are numerous studies like that. The Minnesota adoption study showed that black children raised raised by white parents scored closer to the IQ of their biological parents than their adoptive parents. Where is your evidence that the MAIN reason different groups innovate to different extents is due to resource availability?

I don't think anyone denies that resource availability and the environment plays a part. However for you to say it is the "main reason" for such differences in intelligence is simply deceptive.

You are also not considering the possibility that the lower classes, of whatever race, are so because of their genetics, rather than the other way round. That is to say, that they are low because they have bunk genetics that give them low intelligence and therefore lack the ability to improve their lives.

You seem to assume that poor people are simply poor by chance and that if given enough resources, will magically become intelligent. This is a faith based position, not evidence based. The heritability of IQ has been shown to be roughly 80% genetic, in adults over 25. IQ correlates with success in life, as well as with a propensity for crime. There will be cases of poor people who are just unlucky and are actually smart due to their genetics, but they are a minority. Most poor people are poor because they are dumb, make poor choices, and stay in the cycle of poverty due to a lack of intelligence and a subsequent inability to achieve anything with their lives. Note I said most, not all.

Earlier innovation was Northern African, Mesopotamian, Persian etc.

They are all Caucasoid or Semitic. No black civilization has ever achieved anything of any significant merit, at any point in history. I challenge you to find me something. The most you will get is some shit pyramids copied whole-cloth from the Egyptians or some bullshit "inventions" like peanut butter. The fact remains, blacks have contributed nothing to innovation or to civilization.

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Ok, forgive me for what's coming, I respect your thoughts on this very much, but I want to reverse it:

1/1000 rapes are officially diagnosed... I'm sure many more rape victims are out there. Actually, looking around me, I wouldn't be surprised if 1/10 men are potential rapists.

Really, even if the numbers are really low... it's safer to assume all men are potential rapists. Whether you approve of it or not doesn't matter though. Women come here needing to realize that men are dangerous and take appropriate measures to minimize their exposure to high risk men.

You can see my point right? I know the percentages in your example are much higher, but I really, REALLY don't like this way of thinking. It values the intended goal more than the truth. That's a very slippery slope. And the way I see it there's no reason to be standing on it.

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You have just shown your bias.

I have done no such thing. AWALT is fair LTR and marriage advice, that's what the first A is for; all. It just so happens that LTRs don't have court cases and potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars involved (ring/wedding/debts/expenses/lawyers/ali/cs) to justify my use of "Ample evidence against..."

I understand you're trying to take a moderate approach to AWALT which is needed to actually enjoy interactions with them. Still. Time and observation are all you need. Society will provide the conditioning and the stimuli required, even if that means steering what is now a minority into traditional/RP minded women.

But don't go around claiming all women are a psycho time bomb waiting to go off. This is irrational fear mongering, and it overshoots any purpose it could possibly have.

Perhaps you need more time/observation. Maybe you have women in mind who don't seem AWALT to you. Mayhaps you're hoping to find a chick who is just enough NAWALT to avoid AWALT. Whatever it is, AWALT is still right. Men do need to be hyper vigilant. The feminine subversion of a man's mind is so invasive that he can find himself losing himself all for the good intentions (valid or otherwise) behind his actions. Most every man here has experienced being worn down/weakened/beta-fied/taken away from the awesome that attracted her in the first place/etc while, in retrospect, he thought he was doing everything right at the time.

Hyper vigilance is key until habits have developed into a character for which AWALT is subconscious. At that point, even the sexiest girl or the most curveball shit test can be handled with aplomb. We know these people as guys like RSD Tyler.

Yes, taken too far, you can bomb situations with what would actually be a good girl to take under your wing. However, you can't have AWALT and NAWALT both be true. It doesn't work that way.

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If you want to be with someone else, why not just break with your present partner instead of creating a fight out of nothing?

Women are very careful to craft and frame situations so that they aren't rejected, and if they are, it's a fault on the man's part, not hers. Everything is about validation.

If she tried a no-drama breakup, he could say "OK" and leave her feeling rejected. Now, she can replace feeling rejected with being vindicated ("see, he couldn't handle me anyway") and feel superior for it.

Edit:

Even if he did just say "OK, later bitch"... do you think that would be it? Hell no. It would all about "What, you don't love me... have you ever loved me?"... again deflecting fault onto him. Or maybe "You are supposed to fight for me!". Or "I just don't see how you can throw all this away..." or even "Haven't I meant anything to you?" as the last straw when her shit doesn't work. With that last statement, how she's flat out begging for one last bit of validation to top off her tank.

She'll throw anything at you to re-affirm her own psychological view of herself.

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