I have had somewhat recently some encounters with hot yet painfully insufferable young women and from these dates we can learn highlight some very interesting TRP teachings.

A Culture where “The Wall” is Openly Recognized

One of the first things to note about the place where I’m operating is a post-Soviet conservative place and the culture here is such that the wall is widely accepted as a real thing and is believed to occur between the ages of 22 and 28, depending on how conservative you are. Now a lot of you will say that it is the same in our culture, and I would reply: yes but it is not openly accepted, at least among women. Our women do not acknowledge the wall. Women here know the clock is ticking and that their expiration date is approximately 25. But this produces some very interesting behaviors, which might not be the ones that you expected.

Brief Field Report

I met a moderately attractive girl in her early 20's on the street last week. Let’s call her a 7. I thought I’d give her a chance. Day game here is not really practiced, so I look for any opportunity to practice it and break the mold a bit.

Upon our first meeting after a brief chat and giving me her number, she suggests that I meet her in [expensive restaurant] that evening. I tell her, “We’ll see. I’ll text you.” She didn’t answer the text, and the next day calls me (for just a moment for me to see I had a missed call, so I had to call her back - very fucking clever) and complains that I didn’t show up. (I had never agreed to show up).

I am already feeling hesitant about the amount of bullshit, but I am not ready to discard just yet. She repeatedly emphasizes that she wants to meet at [expensive restaurant]. I see what’s going on, but I’ve managed before to fuck girls on the first date who shit tested like this, so I keep going. I ask her why it’s so important for her to meet at this one location. She dodges the answer.

We meet in person and she wants to go to a different café then where we’d agreed (because I didn’t want to go to that one, she says.) She then starts demanding to know who I usually go to cafes with – is it other girls??? It’s a fairly standard type of shit test but I find it just so boring if that is the only thing that they have to offer that I don’t bother. And it usually is the only thing they have to offer.

We get to the café and I realize she has not even brought money with her. I realize that the amount she has to offer is unsalvageably low, and I bid her a good night.

The High Price of Pre-Wall Pussy

This girl's plan backfired. It wasn't that she necessarily couldn't afford the 4$ it would have cost her to have dinner on her own. It's that she was irresistibly drawn to the idea of stringing alone someone with higher SMV than her and making him do shit for her simply because pre-wall pussy. The chance to make him dance is irresistible, more irresistible than the chance to charm him and have an opportunity for a decent long-term investment.

It is often said here on TRP that an optimal female sexual strategy would be to leverage their high SMV in their youth as a result of their good looks to secure a good man and keep him. In a culture where this is women’s primary directive, where they are actually raised from childhood to believe their role in life is to find a good man marry him and have kids, I can say that this isn’t what they do. A lot of Western guys encounter super charming women outside the west because they're playing game amongst circles that speaks English and/or has experience with foreigners and already views them as a ticket out. But go a little bit father, go play game in places where English/Western culture/foreigners have truly not penetrated. In these places you will find that the culture which emphasizes marriage and youth as the paramount thing for women creates a different set of behaviors than you might expect.

While they simultaneously know that they have only a couple years before their SMV drops by 80%, they don’t exhibit behaviors which would allow them to use this time effectively, even within the context of their own environment. They still make the same fundamental mistake that American feminist women make: opting for a short-term sexual strategy at the cost of their long-term success.

In the case of American feminist women, it’s that they ride the cock carousel and maximize their level of validation and their notch count at the cost of investing their youthful SMV in the chance to secure commitment from a high value male.

In this culture, take away feminism and the cock carousel and all this kind of thing, and you see fundamentally the same problem: women are still maximizing their level of validation that they briefly experience due to their youth and beauty at the cost of investing in the chance to secure commitment from a high value male. A real high value male has abundance mentality and does not stick around for constant petulant, whiney shit tests. A real high value male who is looking for a partner with committing to looks for charm, youth, loyalty, this kind of thing.

These women know about the wall and know about the high price of their pre-wall pussy, but instead of effectively leveraging it they dangle it around to see how many betas they can get to chase them while they act aloof and superior, selecting primarily for guys who are sufficiently thirsty and free of pride or options that they consider it a good use of their time to spend date after date buying shit for and chasing after a girl whose only form of communication is acting coy and aloof and wanting to be told that she's pretty.

The Universal Error in Womens’ Sexual Strategy

The error that I have seen women making is that their behavior prioritizes the emotional drug of validation above absolutely everything else.

Shit Tests Dissected

The common shit tests that I discussed appear as alpha fitness tests in our culture but if you dissect them you will see that they also are validation grabs.

“Who is that girl? Were you looking at her? Do you think she’s pretty?”

She expects one of two responses: either one, that you say, no, of course not, I think YOU’RE pretty, that YOU’RE special. Validation achieved. The other response is, “yes, she’s pretty.” Then she will begin pouting in order to “break you,” when you must fight to win back her approval – validation achieved. TRP knows that the way to beat a shit test is not to play the game on her terms. But she isn’t expecting this.

Another common shit test is playing being intentionally aloof. I recently had a girl say to me recently (as I went radio silent due to her not answering my texts/ invitation) “Just because I am not saying anything doesn’t mean you have to stop talking to me xoxo.” She wanted the validation of me fruitlessly chasing her. The only guy who would do this is a very thirsty loser with no options…so what does this behavior select for? It selects for maximum validation. If you’re chasing after her, it means she’s special and pretty! And that’s the most important thing.

A scene I often see in public parks is a couple, where the female is throwing a shit test fit of pretending to be angry and pouty, and storming off short little distances, and making the guy chase after her and try to console her. And every time I see it, I think, “Grow some fucking balls man, why the fuck are you chasing after her?” Her behavior isn’t selecting for alphas, it’s selecting for validation. This is problematic because you know what thirsty losers do once they're married in a country like this? They get drunk and beat the shit out of their wives.

Most shit tests, in a woman's mind have a fairly binary outcome: either she gets what she craves, and that's validation, or he refuses to give her what she wants, in which case she will pout and punish him until he begs for forgiveness. I've seen men with a sincere desire to marry become a provider husband get shit tested into oblivion by girls whose biggest goal in life is to marry a nice provider husband and have kids. Their shit testing is not selecting for the men who will best fulfill their sexual goals: it's selecting for men who most readily dispense cheap validation.

The thing which astonishes me about these conservative girls is that, unlike their validation-seeking western counterparts, they are often not willing to play the game any other way. In other words, they often will not communicate with a guy, even one of dramatically higher SMV than her whom she genuinely desires, if he does not play along with her cat-and-mouse validation-seeking shit test game. She simply does not know any other way to communicate.

conclusion

The discipline to think about one’s long-term strategies is not a universal trait that either most men nor most women have. But women’s emotions, even in a conservative culture, are ruling their behavior and driving them to their own version of riding the CC, wherein immediate emotional validation is the paramount goal above all else and that everything will be oriented around this emotional addiction.

The answer is that women’s behavior and mentality will often be such that no transaction will occur with a reasonably self-interested man of high smv. There is a limit to how much energy and effort we are willing to put through to blast through shit tests in order to create a relationship or get to sex. Often the women in question will create an impossible circumstance because their immediate goal is in maximizing validation. If you attempt to play that game, you will invariably lose.

The only solution is sufficient abundance mentality that you don’t care. In other words, you have to be able to truly not care when a girl puts a no-win scale shit test in front of you and be able to walk away without any hesitation.

A man can only avoid being toyed with like prey in the trap of women’s higher average sexual SMV if he has the strength to set his own rules and play by them, to walk away when the transaction isn’t in his best interest, and to develop a high enough SMV that his abundance mentality and frame are based on real experience.

And if you don't have enough SMV or experience yet to hold that kind of frame, and are experience anger or frustration at the ridiculousness of the situation, use this to anger to fuel your pride. Don't sacrifice your standards or your dignity, don't let yourself be fucked around by any girl, don't fall into the beta trap.

tl;dr women's validation-seeking behavior sacrifice their long term sexual strategies even in a conservative culture