It's ALL 100% men's fault women are not having kids before they're aged out!

ConstantChinner · 2018-07-29T04:37:11+00:00

Maybe men are becoming leery of having kids with the town bicycle.

throwoahwey · 2018-07-29T06:35:44+00:00

Pure projection. She even states in the article that her girlfriends just scroll through endless online profiles looking for “the one” Mr. Right. They are unwilling to compromise or meet people, but I guess that is all the fault of men not being good enough according to them.

The craziest part about this phenomena for me is that it feels like a dystopian realization of consumer culture becoming a dogmatic cult. These people legitimately expect to have their cake from 18-28, hop on Tinder at 29, and expect Chad to be delivered with Prime shipping ready to start pumping out kids by 30. I guess if you view men as utilities and not as people their thinking isn’t too far off.

Billy_Sunsteel · 2018-07-29T04:42:32+00:00

The part the author leaves off is that women are mad that the Chads arent committing to them, they could very easily find a man, marry him and have kids but it wouldn't be Chads! It isn't men in general that arent willing to commit to them.

void_magic · 2018-07-29T05:34:39+00:00

That FEI study found that most women, whatever their income, are keen to have kids before they turn 30.

Sure they hit 28 and think they can press a button, find a perfect, guy, date, get engaged, married, and pregnant all in two years. That's their plan, they don't really give it much thought.

civilizedfrog · 2018-07-29T05:25:02+00:00

Lol. She just stated why ONLY Chads don't marry. The real reason is no one wants to marry a girl who slept with every man in a district. Even males, who work hard towards an egalitarian society, will support a woman's right to ride the carousel but at the end of the day he would marry someone who has a very low n-count. Women who sleep around brings a feeling of disgust within the men. This is one truth women don't want to hear. To a certain extent, women understands this. That is why women always lie about their n-count.

Blogginginvicecity · 2018-07-29T06:33:00+00:00

"No one's buying! Darn men!"

Well WHAT ARE YOU SELLING!?

And who are you trying to sell it to?

First she lets seemingly wealthy men test drive her fancy overpriced car and won't settle until she gets 2mil for it. Men want it but most cannot afford it as it's priced to WIN BIG MONEY. After 10 years the price has gone down and the men have gotten richer --many can even afford the original asking price! However, the 10 year old car is still priced like a new car, and that's relatively exorbitant.

That crazy sales lady. She thinks that men with serious money are giving a blind eye to the odometer reading and the coming obscelesence of its parts. Just because she keeps getting men interested in test driving it! But that"wisened" motor sound isn't attractive to buyers of new cars, no matter how much it makes the seller satisfied and proud.

Oh dear saleswoman... ...your car might be really cool, but there are new and improved models available for me to purchase right now. I want to build a life with my new car --make history with it. I do not want to pay right out the door for problems I had no part in creating. That reminds me of work, and I don't want to pay for more work. Also, I AIN'T PAYING NEW PRICES FOR USED GOODS.

To be fair, you may have some flashy features that will make some men very happy. If they take you up on your offer, they will be continuously reminded they now have certain auto perks that were out of reach in their youth. Good for them, and I wish them well with that. But these types of men are happy with scrap metal! It's a far cry from the exclusive, elite class of shotcallers you wanted your brand to solely associate with when you first put your car on the market.

Or, wait, was it clothes you were selling? Were you pricing your fashions out of the market until they were considered unfashionable? I forget. Or was it eggs you were selling for 100$ each until they went bad? That sounds familiar, no? Pesky meats; first the rotten fish, then the old Arbie's sandwiches, and now rotten eggs. Rats! (Or is it cats!?) Maybe if homemaking was more of an emphasis (I'm not even saying it's the one and only emphasis) there wouldn't be so much spoiled meat in the neighborhoods. Oops! I said an evil thing there. Naughty, naughty, non-pc thoughts from the potty.

Anyways, what are you selling, lady? And who are you selling it to? To me it looks like you're selling expensive, rosegold painted bullshit, and marketing it to men who don't need that shit.

Edit: punctuation and minor improvements in clarity. Thumbing this out on a phone as usual.

plamplamthrow0321 · 2018-07-29T07:05:20+00:00

Jesus. The cunt that wrote this article sure has a lot of nerve.

It's all projection. Seriously, everything she derides men for is what women are actively doing.

A lot of women don't want babies or commitment either. The lack of self awareness is unbelievable.

Case in point:

If online dating turns more men into commitment-phobes, I don’t see why anyone should be surprised. It’s women for the most part who feel the urge to nest and breed — as we all once quite freely acknowledged before gender became a choice. Most men don’t feel the same need to play house

Lol. No they don't. Women who slut it up for decades and demand commitment from 30-45 (and babies) are the ones who are 'commitment phobes'. What were they doing their best years? Fucking around. I have no sympathy for these bitches.

What man wants some 'ethically non-monogamous' wife or an 'open relationship' and be forced to raise kids in that environment? No really, why do women expect, no, DEMAND that men accept this raw deal?

thearmchairwarrior · 2018-07-29T06:11:56+00:00

Whores gives it away free to Chads, Why would Chad commit???

After they get old and used, they'll go after cucks. Thinking hmm I'll trick him into having Chads kids as his own. Sucker him into marrying.

Run boys.

Men would love to have children that are their own, but modern western women are whores.

IronMeltsinmyHands · 2018-07-29T07:36:29+00:00

In other news, aging harpies screech at the top of their lungs at the men they rejected.

civilization_failed · 2018-07-29T06:43:16+00:00

Something just occurred to me. This shit only applies to dumb people. Smart women know not to pass up the moon reaching for the stars, so do smart men.

Unfortunately dumb people constitute 80% of the population.

comptejete · 2018-07-29T10:13:31+00:00

how to spot a commitment-phobic narcissist.

Usually they're the ones writing this sort of drivel.

Most men don’t feel the same need to play house. It took the threat of public shame, fear of God and the censorious tutting of mutual friends to chivy a man towards family life.

Ah, good old traditionalism. This rings very true: "Feminism didn't remove the shackles women thought they were wearing, it removed the shackles men didn't know they were wearing."

Alas, that genie isn't going back into the bottle any time soon, reap what you sowed sister.

The trouble has been finding a man who’s even halfway keen to settle down.

There are plenty of men keen to settle down and selflessly support a family, but your sense of entitlement has narrowed down the criteria for what is a desirable man to the extent that only a small and vanishing percentage of men qualify, at which point you have to ask yourself the question - why would this man at the top of his game with so many options settle for an average woman like you?

Blogginginvicecity · 2018-07-29T10:26:53+00:00

We are becoming a nation of older mothers. The average age at which a woman has her first child is now 30.

Oh, you get that child support right when the party dies? How convenient.

The government, which had anyway decided on compulsory relationship classes, thinks the answer lies in more of the same. If we only explain to 11-year-olds how hard it is to conceive at 40, the creep towards geriatric motherhood can be reversed.

Teach them you can't make a ho a housewife, and the readily apparent baby rabies after 27 is a turn off which scares off men. Maybe we can red pill boys while we're at, if there's enough space in the budget after we juice them all up with ~~legal meth~~ medication.

I first set about trying for a family just as youth was crumbling into middle-age and it was a very boring business.

O.k., so you didn't even decide to try for a family until later in life, but you're about to rip on men? Alright. Well let's see what this critical thinker brings us next. Should be some technically sophisticated mental gymnastics.

I’m all for sparing future generations this sort of expensive angst, but the more I look about, the more I’m sure the government has it quite wrong about the causes of late motherhood.

Does 'looking about' and 'being sure' consist of reading a sentence research conclusions and then wildly flailing your arms, pretending the buzzwords supported your point? Because that's what your faux intellectualism does in just a sec.

Girls aren’t clueless about biology.

O.k. neither are boys, but I think you enjoyed that particular ommission.

The very same study (by the Fertility Education Initiative) that set off the fuss, also reported that most young people, nine out of ten of them, are already well aware that it’s trickier to conceive over 30.

We are also aware that veggies, exercise, and a lack of smoking is good. And excessive T.V. and alcohol are bad for you, and social media can contribute to depression. Yet what does America do? Treat it like a fun fact! Was this fun fact suppossed to mean something, Carol?

Nor do I buy the usual millennial complaint that they don’t earn enough to support a family. That FEI study found that most women, whatever their income, are keen to have kids before they turn 30.

Ah yes, the classic "I don't believe you're poor." LOL, what's that classic feminist accomplishment? Increasing supply of labor in the workplace so that companies can afford to pay everyone less? (Correct me if I'm wrong!) We could also mention that working women have such a high standard of living, I would literally have to double my income to maintain her lifestyle and keep her from leaving my """broke ass"""". Hypergamy all day. Get with the situation men have to face, lady!!. And you bloody know the woman needs the funds to make the baby look cute for Instagram or whatever the fuck. And if I don't buy stupid shit to keep up with the Joneses, she's going to justify leaving or cheating because reasons. Hypergamy, hypergamy. And why would I want a spoiled woman anyway? . Perhaps I'll be able to afford a family in the future, but I have yet to see a woman gratefully make sacrifices to help raise a family in financial security.

I get ahead of myself though. I mean, look at those two sentences again:

Nor do I buy the usual millennial complaint that they don’t earn enough to support a family. That FEI study found that most women, whatever their income, are keen to have kids before they turn 30.

how tf does she think that women wanting kids before 30 counters the fact that couples feel too poor to have one? Desire trumps money? What the shit!? Did she just say "fuck your fake money complaints, WOMEN WANT BABIES." Yo, it's that very attitude that scares me regarding commitment. The woman has complete disregard over my finances and is totally self serving. This lady should ingest the red pills she's dropping. It turns out she still bears good fruit even after her age of eggs has long passed, haha!

I hate to kick men when they’re down, ducked beneath the parapet for fear of angry feminists, but I suspect the real problem here isn’t ignorant girls but unwilling boys. I have several female friends in their early thirties who’ve wanted a baby for a while. Ninety-five per cent of girls do, says the FEI. The trouble for them hasn’t been the cost of childcare or a demanding career. The trouble has been finding a man who’s even halfway keen to settle down. All my pals looking for Mr Right report identical patterns of behaviour.

Color. Me. Surprised. --that men don't want to buy a used car for full price when they have so many other less expensive, more beautiful new car options

Dating is now all online. So they scroll through endless profiles and eventually make contact with a promising guy. Cue weeks of pointless text-ing followed eventually by an actual date. The evening often goes well. There might be a snog, more texting and another date arranged. After that: nothing. The promising man, who’s caught wind of a woman with family plans, submerges back into the internet to scroll through the options again. Why commit when Kate Moss might be beckoning from behind the next screen? It’s so much easier to imagine someone’s perfect when you haven’t yet met them.

LOL is that hypergamy projection from her younger days I see? And girl, he didn't leave you for the looks. You clearly know the man only leaves after you mention family plans, but you state he's leaving you because a hot chick is right around the corner. Face the truth; swallow the red pill. You're used up as commitment-worthy material. All those skin care products, makeup, clothes, and scents were purchased to transform you into the best whore candidate for that sweet lifelong pension deal, and now that deal is off the table. You're not the prize now, we are, and you understand this. No more big mergers and acquisitions in the personal financial sphere for you. You're in the petty-cash escort zone now, and cognitive dissonance is full throttle, straight up melting the hamster wheel at a dizzying speed.

If online dating turns more men into commitment-phobes, I don’t see why anyone should be surprised.

LOL CLASSIC CAROL thoughts: "Online dating. The time tested pussy playground for men."

Carol, carol, carol.. ...your sole focus on the apex males would be remarkable if not so typical.

BluepillProfessor · 2018-07-29T07:27:25+00:00

The lady needs to realize that she too is responsible for her problems.

No man owes her anything. Terms like commitment phobe simply raise women’s entitlement and insult men who are interested in marrying but have so far been shrugged off by women.

Cissnowflake · 2018-07-29T14:41:58+00:00

Men are not afraid of commitment. Men commit, on a deep level to lots of things, all the time.

Men are, however, getting better at not making STUPID commitments.

[deleted] · 2018-07-29T12:09:16+00:00

I wish I could feel bad for women but they don't deserve any sympathy.
They have all the advantages in the beginning and literally have their pick of men to choose from.
It's her own fault if high quality men don't want you anymore after you throw away your best years partying and slutting it up.

Ghustgan · 2018-07-29T08:20:32+00:00

Seems like men's behavior can change things after all. If we keep this up, they'll eventually have to own their shit and change.

SilverGryphon · 2018-07-29T12:02:36+00:00

Men have the right not to marry and have kids. Shocking! I know. Women quickly forget that men have rights too.

rooster-one4 · 2018-07-29T05:51:42+00:00

She gives good advice for men, though says it's for the little girls... Doesn't matter, little girls are raised by little girls anyways.

Isellmacs · 2018-07-29T11:34:27+00:00

I'll give her credit for using the idea of "phobe" correctly. Who wouldn't be scared of financial ruin, unfaithful women, and legal troubles?

MGTOWManofMystery · 2018-07-29T14:33:02+00:00

TradCuck / TradCon bullshit. The Spectator is a Far-Right rag.

Interesting how the author waiting until hitting the Wall:

"I first set about trying for a family just as youth was crumbling into middle-age and it was a very boring business."

And:

"I have several female friends in their early thirties who’ve wanted a baby for a while. Ninety-five per cent of girls do, says the FEI. The trouble for them hasn’t been the cost of childcare or a demanding career. The trouble has been finding a man who’s even halfway keen to settle down."

Well, there are only so many Chad's to go around... And strong, independent women won't really settle for Joe Average.

[deleted] · 2018-07-29T10:55:50+00:00

If you see economics, any large losses in a private concern calls for a bailout by the central bank, because 'there are jobs and lives to save', while the profits are always private, of course.

In the same way if they are able to achieve something good it's always 'women power' and if they can't then men are to take blame.

How is it the beta man's problem when you can't secure a commitment from chad.

[deleted] · 2018-07-29T15:41:17+00:00

tldr; wymyn are mad that men are leaving the plantation

[deleted] · 2018-07-29T21:45:35+00:00

Not interested in being unable to sleep on the couch while my wife's son fucks his GF in his bedroom and my wife fucks her BF in mine. :P

Narcissist456 · 2018-07-29T07:52:14+00:00

“Commitment from me? Nah, not likely.”

-50 Cent

satansbarbedcock · 2018-07-29T14:34:25+00:00

Yet another article that means chad when it says men. Jfl at the idea that all but the top 10% of men have a bunch of other options lined up.

kyledontcare · 2018-07-29T21:02:46+00:00

Men want thin, debt-free, virgins without tattoos, around 25 years old.

[deleted] · 2018-07-29T09:44:26+00:00

What a shame this was written is The Spectator. It's usually quite an intelligent publication.

SirKolbath · 2018-07-29T19:07:08+00:00

Yeah? You stupid bitch. If guys are so goddamn afraid of commitment, why are most divorces initiated by women?

We are not afraid of commitment. We simply don't fucking trust you. And that is a bed you made for yourselves by, and stop me if I type this too fast for you, not being trustworthy!

[deleted] · 2018-07-30T01:56:17+00:00

Commitment phobic?

Men aren’t afraid of commitment. They are scared of women’s lack of commitment.

Cissnowflake · 2018-07-29T14:41:23+00:00

As long as we can agree men are to blame, then we can move forward.

anti_masyarakat · 2018-07-29T15:07:46+00:00

Girls, the day you ride that cock carousel. You already choose to be in the hoe lane. There's no lane changing tips, or u-turn for that. Everybody gonna know you are a hoe. The past will haunt you.

Here's the thing. You expect the Mr. Right. And, everyone keep saying to you. You need to go out there. to Find your mr. Right. Guess what. When the time come, That Mr.Right will not even want to talk you. Not because, you are selling yourself cheap. But, because, you already lose the right to be the Mrs Right.

She's never his responsibility. He doesn't owe her anything. She make that choice. She's capable women to make her own decision. And, now, she has to live with that decisions.

p0rnpop · 2018-07-29T21:59:13+00:00

Commitment phobia is what they call the guys that have all the options. And they are right. Those guys are scared of commutting. They get constant stream of women, with no commitment required, in what ever preference they like. Their assets are safe (except for a #metoo moment or two). Committing means giving this up for a single woman who might turn off sex the second her 2.5 kids Jaydan, Aiden, and Kaeden are born. Followed by a divorce rape with a side if child molestation accusations throw in. That's a strong possibility that any guy who has unlimited access to any woman he wants should be scared of. It's like being scared when you are caught between a mother bear and get cub. It's a perfectly rational fear.

All those guys who want to commit? They are like that because they don't have a constant stream of women supplying them with all the sex they want. Those are the guys that don't even exist to a woman looking to commit.

It's time we say that yes, men are scared, and that such fear is perfectly rational.

[deleted] · 2018-07-30T13:33:39+00:00

Internet was the best thing to happen to Betas. I thank the Lord I know what hypergamy is so at this point in my life I can quickly box any woman who rode the CC and is now 28 and wants to "settle down" squarely in the pump and dumb category.

ThePlague · 2018-07-30T14:33:52+00:00

Men are exercising their reproductive rights, and many are choosing not to settle down and get on the hook financially to fulfill some woman's biological urge to pop out kids. It's all about choice. Call it narcissistic and selfish all you want, but men do have reproductive rights though the only one recognized to any extent is the right not to breed. So, we take precautions, such as gloving up or vasectomies, or go full-on monk mode.

[deleted] · 2018-07-31T14:46:44+00:00

Gents, meet Mary Wakefield, the author of the linked piece.

And now you understand where she's coming from.

Typical go go career girl. Spent a career as a nurse, first in academia, then in public service. Worked as an Obama appointee as a deputy secretary in the US Dept of Health and Human SErvices from 2015 to the end of the Obama tyranny.

But, hey, somewhere in there, you have to work in a husband and a kid. ONE kid - her son.

No fucking wonder you had to have fertility treatments, Mary - you didn't even START TRYING until you were in your 30s, because you were too busy with your career.

Look - having a marriage and children either is important, or it isn't. And for you and millions of Sex and the City Carrie Bradshaws, it's not important until you're around 35 or so.

Sure. It's all about immature, feckless, irresponsible men, none of whom want to commit. Bullshit.

Let me tell you the story of millions of men you dont' see.

They're the ones quietly working, getting shit done, keeping the garbage picked up and the cars running and the airplanes from falling out of the sky.

They're the ones who get the paperwork where it needs to be, get the trains from one place to another, sell you your TVs, and change out the broken glass on your smartphones.

They represent you in court, handle your STD labwork, build, maintain, and fix the roads you drive on, and manufacture the mattresses you fuck Chad on. They're the ones who make the drinks and prepare the food you'll consume before you take Chad home to fuck him in the house your ex husband is paying for.

I spent my young life taking school very seriously, earning two degrees and passing a state's bar exam before I was 25 years old. I started working and saving money. I kept my nose clean. I don't have a rap sheet. I had a car, an apartment, and a job. I married at 28.

And what I got for my trouble and all that "Responsibility" and "hard work" was a woman who, for a long time, treated me like shit, walked all over me, used me, exploited me, took advantage of me, and deprived me of sex. All because women like YOU said that's what I was supposed to do.

I did everything bitches like you said I should do. I worked hard. I kept my nose clean. I didn't get arrested or need someone to bail me out of jail after getting pinched for misdemeanor assault or DUI. I didn't go into debt. I didn't get sued because I failed to pay my bills. I saved money. I followed all the rules women like you set down for me, said I should follow, and said would make me sexually attractive.

And I got fucked over.

That is never going to happen to me ever again.

THAT, dearie, is why men are walking away. Because women like you and the women you encourage and build, don't want the men you SAY you want. You aren't sexually attracted to them. You ARE sexually attracted to the men who will NEVER commit to you.

That, dearie, is the problem. Not men refusing to commit. It's YOU wanting and demanding commitment from men who will never give it to you.

ThePlague · 2018-07-31T14:48:24+00:00

this from the comments, do you guys think this is true?

"Yes....like it or not... the non-PC truth is that gay marriage has devalued traditional heterosexual marriage somewhat, at least subliminally, especially with men."

BluepillProfessor · 2018-07-29T17:49:52+00:00

This article would be more realistic if it talked about aliens stealing our DNA to make grey-human hybrids.

At least there is some evidence for that with many thousands of reports of alien abductions. This column is so wrong, so lacking in any evidence whatsoever, and so completely backwards I don't have a suitable analogy. The author is projecting so hard she may just attract the aliens all the way out on Planet X.

ThePlague · 2018-07-29T20:51:51+00:00

Marriage, kids, the whole white picket fence thing is a bad deal for men. Always has been, but men did it out of a sense of duty; it's what you're suppose to do. Well, no more.

Of course, all generalizations are false. Sufficient men are opting out, not willing to commit, that it's starting to make it ever so slightly difficult for the ladies wanting to pop out kids once they're done riding the CC. LOL. Even BP simps are starting to learn.

"Fear of commitment". That's been part of the lexicon for a long time, at least since the 80s. Try to make it a bravery thing, and some men will be goaded into taking the bait. No, it's more apprehension of getting ripped off which ultimately kids and marriage are for men, a ripoff, a willingness for some bizarre reason to take on financial responsibility for her biological urges. As long as there are women around willing to fuck who don't want kids, why buy that sort of headache?

[deleted] · 2018-07-31T14:43:55+00:00

"I have several female friends in their early thirties who’ve wanted a baby for a while. Ninety-five per cent of girls do, says the FEI. The trouble for them hasn’t been the cost of childcare or a demanding career. The trouble has been finding a man who’s even halfway keen to settle down."

left out the key word chad

antek_asing · 2018-07-29T23:56:12+00:00

Making kids is easy, the other things that come with it is the hardest part like living together/marriage and financial support.

[deleted] · 2018-07-31T14:42:54+00:00

just adopt a kid!

"but I want a realllll kid"

0kool74 · 2018-08-13T20:02:54+00:00

From the article:

The trouble for them hasn’t been the cost of childcare or a demanding career. The trouble has been finding a man who’s even halfway keen to settle down.

Yea and let's look at the myriad of troubles men have to face if they are even so inclined to settle down: infidelity, STDs, paternity fraud, parental alienation, divorce court ass-raping....the list goes on and on. It isn't men that are to blame for that, it is militant 3rd wave feminism. Of course, good luck trying to explain that to Team Vag.

If online dating turns more men into commitment-phobes, I don’t see why anyone should be surprised

Once again, it isn't that men have turned into commitment phobes. But the shit we have to look forward to is JUST.....NOT......WORTH.....IT!!!!!!

Title	It's ALL 100% men's fault women are not having kids before they're aged out!
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Date	July 29, 2018 4:31 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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