Does plausible deniability & hypergamy absolve women’s sins?

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March 9, 2020
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I know only Jesus wipes the slate clean.

But in the mind of a woman, where she can’t fully take responsibility for her actions or be held “accountable” for them. How does this work in their relationship with God?

Does it not create their own form of righteousness?

If they truly believe they didn’t ride the CC (for example) and may even lie to themselves until they believe it. How would you ever even know the truth? Do they even know the truth? Or do they just rather not let their faults come to light?

Is there a difference in how God disciplines men vs women?

I’m wondering how God can reconcile a women who doesn’t believe she’s in the wrong. Or is that where the Holy Spirit comes in and makes changes to the person?


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Title Does plausible deniability & hypergamy absolve women’s sins?
Author agoodcrayon
Upvotes 1
Comments 14
Date 09 March 2020 07:40 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]helaughsinhidden6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

Does plausible deniability & hypergamy absolve women’s sins?

PD is something that isn't unique to women trying to absolve themselves from sin. The first examples are found in genesis when God asked Cain about his brother Abel and he replies "Am I my brother's keeper?". Everyone does this from the man clearing his browser history or washing his junk before coming home to his wife to the woman lying about her notch count because there wasn't a witness to corroborate the story.

Do they even know the truth? Or do they just rather not let their faults come to light?

Yes, they know the truth, be it that they did it so much they lost count, or they didn't tell him about the bartender on her bachelorette party after the bridesmaids passed out. A lot of times, they will just keep this hidden forever. There is a saying "a woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets", so keep that in mind. For other women, they can't handle it and they can either "trickle" some of the "truth" out when you aren't really paying attention and relieve their guilt or start a huge fight over something you've done then drop the bomb on you after you've made a huge jerk of yourself first.

Does it not create their own form of righteousness?

Yes, yes it does. The word for that is idolatry by definition.

I’m wondering how God can reconcile a women who doesn’t believe she’s in the wrong.

Again, this isn't a problem that is unique to women. Consider the sermon on the mount, Jesus speaking mainly to men who saw themselves as righteous but who's hearts were wicked.

Or is that where the Holy Spirit comes in and makes changes to the person?

Bingo! The Holy Spirit's job is to convict us of sin, point us to Jesus, give us a new heart, and sanctify us continually until we either die or Christ returns for us. Again, not unique to women, it's the same for all of the elect.

[–]agoodcrayon[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Got it.

Do women live in a state of delusion in that case?

And do men tend to be more truthful compared to women? (Obviously not every man)

[–]helaughsinhidden1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's been my personal experience that a woman will do something that she has already justified in her mind and will stick to her thought process no matter how flawed it is. Conversely, men will do a thing more thoughtlessly or impulsively, then justify it later and/or admit his error. Hence, many married men have apologized countless times themselves, but can count on one hand how many times they have received an apology from their wife. LOL, just look at pop and country music. Ton's of female songs about destroying his crap or having a "not sorry" attitude and libraries of songs from men about regret.

Now, are women "delusional" for being this way? As a son, brother, husband, and father to different women, I can tell you that it has a lot to do with previous results. I see how when women are given the free pass and their lies are accepted or overlooked, they grow in that way and even start to either actually believe the lies or become super committed to it's success. When they are not given the free pass and are met with a calm and mature response from a man who holds frame, doesn't DEER, and allows the Holy Spirit and her own hamster to do the heavy lifting, a consistently more honest and humble woman will manifest. Even better is leading in being honest. Being the example to call yourself out, own your mistakes, apologize, and show growth. A woman will rarely "go first" in taking the high road, and when she does, it's usually the road out of town, not to reconciliation and restoration .

[–]afterthe_fapocalypse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

well said

[–]Red-Curious0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I agree with everything /u/helaughsinhidden said to your original post. As to this particular question, I'll simply add that the prevalence of blue pill ideology throughout the world is evidence, to me, that men are even more delusional, on the whole, than women. It takes a special kind of delusion to accept such fantastical notions of how the world should operate - and the fact that I lived in that delusion for so long makes me all the more confident of the capacity of men to be at least as, if not more so, delusional than women.

What's worth noting in this is that men are conditioned this way from the start. There's no rationalization that happens - we just innately want to believe in Disney notions of "love and happily ever after." For women, there's certainly a cultural element that enables their rationalization/hamstering, but the mental gymnastics many of them go through seem to be case-by-case, meaning it's self-taught, not universally and uniformly conditioned. In other words, they come up with their own lies that they tell themselves, but they're trained by culture to believe it's okay to lie to themselves as one of their vagical powers.

[–]agoodcrayon[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How can we as men trust a woman for relationship or marriage in this case?

Since relationships need a foundation of trust. I’m not sure I want to place my trust in someone that’s shaky.

It’s difficult to come to terms that they are deeply intrenched in lies and deceit - even if there is a spectrum of 1 to 10 being the worst. Lying is a passive trait to get away with something you’re not proud of. Lying to yourself is even worse.

[–]Willow-girl0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It’s difficult to come to terms that they are deeply intrenched in lies and deceit

And men are, of course, shining beacons of veracity?

[–]agoodcrayon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not saying men are better than women. Not everyone is so narrow minded before making a statement ya know

[–]sywonsmumu2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What helped me is learning that we will all be held accountable for our own actions one day no matter what. If women want true “independence” and freedom then they need to realize that yes they are weaker but are still held to the same standard as God’s children, despite what people tell us.

A slap in the face to me would be sitting there on judgement day, pointing my fingers everywhere else and not realizing it’s all my own fault. That’s the trick of the enemy.

It may be harder to reflect and stand apart from the world being in such a herd mentality, but it is possible. I think women should look at their responsibility in a positive way. What a gift it is to be in charge of my own actions, to be given responsibility over myself to glorify God.

[–]Rifleshoot0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In your life, you will sin so much that you forget more sin than you remember. Make no mistake, you will remember every last one of those sins on the Day of Judgement. And you will he held accountable for them. As will we all, men and women alike.

[–]agoodcrayon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I’m aware of that. I’ve thought about that before. Crazy how we forget the “little” sins but hold onto the “big” ones

[–]Willow-girl0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

But in the mind of a woman, where she can’t fully take responsibility for her actions or be held “accountable” for them.

That's a whale of an assumption!

[–]agoodcrayon[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

An observation that has been more accurate than not. Carry on.

[–]Willow-girl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha, I read that post after working 24 of the last 48 hours. Pardon my eyeroll?



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