Who of you have ever abandoned an argument not because the other person convinced you that they are right, but because you don’t feel is worth the effort to spend hours researching articles that prove your point?

seattlemgtow · 2021-01-06T15:01:16+00:00

Arguments are a waste of time and energy. There really isn't any convincing anyone with an entrenched belief.

BadWardrobe · 2021-01-06T15:07:39+00:00

Waste of time an energy. I've learned to become aware of the point where a conversation becomes a debate/argument and simply stop talking.

c_is_for_classified · 2021-01-06T16:52:31+00:00

I do not engage with idiots. Trying to make dumb people smarter will just make you dumber.

Mercator1234 · 2021-01-06T14:23:47+00:00

Who didn't? There are people in my life still debating peanut butter vs. Jelly, or which of those to put on top.

Not all arguments are worth fighting, and not all arguments are worth cutting people out of your life for.

RhinoTheGreat · 2021-01-06T16:25:59+00:00

I've walked away from almost everyone in my life during lockdowns. It isn't an exaggeration. Many factors contribute to this. I live in California and used to work in entertainment. My entire social life went to hell the day after the 2016 election. I started walking away from people back then in secret. But now that my life has been ripped away from lockdowns, I can no longer have surface level conversations with people and therefore I am slowly being outed. My feelings go against the MSM narrative which is the state religion of California. This means that there is no point in "arguing"/debating if you're in my shoes. I started to go my own way in 2016 without realizing it. It prepared me well for the fallout from these lockdowns.

SwordMasterLink79 · 2021-01-06T17:14:17+00:00

Basically /every/ argument with a woman I abandon quickly.

Sorry for the lengthy explanation, I feel this is not known enough. You can not discuss everything with everyone, here's why:

I learned there is a prerequisite to dealing with irrational people (e.g. religious fanatics):

The Person has to have a condition under which he/she is wiling to concede they are wrong and your argument is valid.

For example if some muslim fanatic firmly beliefs god told him to do this or that - if you ask him under which condition he is willing to change his belief and he can not name you any condition, then there is zero reason to try to reason with them. Walk away.

Same applies for people who believe in homeopathy, e.g. if they say like 'When my kid took these pills from that homeopathic doctor, it got healthy within 1 week. I know they work.' - then don't be a fool to argue with them, telling them scientific studies that these pills were proven to not have any effect besides placebo-effect. Walk away.

Then there are (e.g. conspiracy theory) guys who are (1) not willing to give up their conspiracy theories and (2) come up with any number of illogical explanations in a blink of an eye defending their position. You usually end up trying to disprove each of these explanations one by one, taking lots of time to explain the science behind it - meanwhile that conspiracy guy tells another 3 bullshit reasons for his conspiracy theories (often in the form of open ended questions instead of clearly stating his opinion). You can't win. Walk away.

And then there are feminists. Walk away.

And by extension AWALT - every woman: They firmly belief that all women must get more rights and privileges.

There is no arguing with them, women belief if they tell you even one single time that a woman is wrong/not perfect then they would automatically loose all of their assets and ressources. So they will fight to the bone to proof to you whatever shit is currently discussed, for example that every man MUST under all circumstances hold the door open to a woman.

Plus women will resort to aforementioned bullshit-tactic: Come up with dozens of unreasonable arguments to defend their point - while you disprove one reason, they will have come up with 5 more irrational arguments. Walk away.

Don't argue with women about feminism, women's rights or men's rights. It's like playing chess with a duck. Walk away.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. (english proverb)

JKL4786291 · 2021-01-06T17:49:00+00:00

https://i.imgur.com/SYdkRQs.jpg

EnvironmentalRest4 · 2021-01-06T15:48:50+00:00

Do you mean :” Have you ever talked to a woman?” . Many men are also like women in that regard .

debanked · 2021-01-06T14:41:09+00:00

I usually end with "you're right" especially when it relates to my expertise

nameless2302 · 2021-01-06T16:51:31+00:00

Pretty such everyone here have dealt with solipsistic people in their lives before.

This phenomenon is just caused by low self esteem. In their heart of hearts, they know they are wrong.

It's called the "Ah Q mentality" among mainland Chinese and people of Chinese ethnicity. The "Ah Q mentality" (阿Q精神, "Ā Q jīngshén") is used commonly as a term of mockery to describe someone who chooses not to face up to reality and deceives himself into believing he is successful, or has unjustified beliefs of superiority over others. It describes a narcissistic individual who rationalizes every single actual failure he faces as a psychological triumph ("spiritual victory").

Source: The True Story of Ah Q - Wikipedia

Also, you don't have to prove any point to the person you know, winning arguments with fools and solipsistic cunts is impossible. Don't waste your time and energy on them.

https://9gag.com/gag/a8318Op

Iqbal40862715 · 2021-01-06T15:28:21+00:00

Anytime my sisters tell me they're oppressed.

grumetito · 2021-01-06T17:26:09+00:00

Be stoic Bro! (a natural way for a mgtow) do not argument If is no really neccessary. They can/want to steal your attention and emotional energy..for nothing!. Sorry my grammar.

mrtinlv · 2021-01-06T17:43:47+00:00

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain

GroundbreakingAd7585 · 2021-01-06T15:27:00+00:00

I'm willing to debate, especially if something may adversely affect my life.

But if it's a matter of taste or just irrelevant, no thanks.

Sir_manalot · 2021-01-06T15:49:14+00:00

Basically everyone really.

CoinSwapTrader · 2021-01-06T19:18:50+00:00

If you are spending hours to prove your point then you didnt already have your point defended to begin with...When i argue I usually know exactly what and where to find what i am defending. Secondly...why is it always up to us to defend ourselves and find facts, yet most morons don't care to do any research of their own to back up their bullshit...

ReplyIfSmallPp · 2021-01-06T22:26:17+00:00

I like to fight and die on every hill, never surrender. Because I find it fun. But that might be because I'm I contrarian prick

Alexius_von_Meinong · 2021-01-07T00:53:38+00:00

It's called choosing your battles.

As soon as I know something is pointless I check out. Not worth my time.

Throwthe8827 · 2021-01-07T01:25:34+00:00

Most of the times I had to defend points, the other person just ignored everything I answered and informed them.

I actually had to tell the person she had not watched to video I sent her (ten minutes explaining science about the creation of the universe and how we need a first mover, God).

She was just looking for excuses to complain about anything I said and claim I did not have answers. I loved talking about the subject and I tried to answer in clear ways, but it got to the point that you could understand that she was just giving excuses.

Another time, I presented a magazine about Evolution and new discoveries in Evolution. This guy decided to oppose the magazine and said he had read it and it did not say that. I was not willing to believe he had read anything since he opposed the content of the magazine and he wanted me to erase my text talking about the magazine and about another source on Evolution and new discoveries.

I had to make new texts and offer other sources for these people to stop insulting me and actually listening to the Science they wanted so much to push down everyone’s throat.

Newsflash: Science disagreed with their point.

I hope those texts were useful for people genuinely interested in Science and seeking knowledge to understand the world.

Rooftopred · 2021-01-07T06:46:46+00:00

I do that for almost all long arguments unless they directly affect me- like something at work. It’s just not worth the effort and often people aren’t willing to change their views no matter what. I find it’s just best to move on and get back to whatever it was I wanted to do. They might “win” the argument but they’ll be wrong their entire life.

Global_MGTOW · 2021-01-07T08:23:53+00:00

There are still morons on Reddit that 100% truly believe that Trump hired some hookers to pee on the pillow in a hotel room Obama stayed in years ago. There's nothing you can say or do to convince them otherwise. Scariest thing, every single one of these morons thinks they're some kind of genius and everyone else is a moron.

It's a waste of time to argue with morons who won't listen to reason. What it boils down to is their "feelings", no amount of facts or evidence will convince them otherwise.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2021-01-07T10:03:34+00:00

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."

If people do not want to learn the truth, nothing you say will convince them. The only thing you can do is BIG them - block, ignore, ghost.

prbonfanti · 2021-01-07T16:57:56+00:00

Certainly, but i do less times than i should, to stress out in the internet is unhealthy.

SuperSupremeKai · 2021-01-07T17:07:58+00:00

That is why I try not to even argue with anyone. I either stay silent or agree with them.

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“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”