Hollywood Wants Female-Led Action Films…Audiences Don’t.

markus_brutus · 2019-11-12T16:09:59+00:00

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DangZagnut · 2019-11-12T16:57:04+00:00

No one wants it.

Men like to see heightened versions of males as heroes as they can have wish fulfillment. It’s a man with superior capabilities.

It takes what you are and heightens it to the better version.

Women acting like men on screen doesn’t really appeal to men, a better version of a woman is not an action star, it’s a heightened woman, ie, has more sex appeal.

Women seem to like heightened men and women too. I’m sure someone wants women action stars, but not enough to fill a theater.

iwanttheblanketback · 2019-11-12T16:19:31+00:00

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TigPlaze · 2019-11-12T16:35:53+00:00

The market will vote with its dollars. These kind of stupid movies will fail.

n0t__t0day · 2019-11-12T16:05:29+00:00

The bottom line will eventually tell Hollywood where money are.

Ody_ssey · 2019-11-12T16:17:31+00:00

Regardless of what feminists say on twitter, women don't watch such movies else these woke movies still would be benefitted by 50% of population.

freedomring123 · 2019-11-12T19:05:01+00:00

there is nothing more hilarious watching a 5'2" 95 pound woman beat up a 6'7" 300 pound gangster in a movie. Talk about realism. LOL!

Marque01 · 2019-11-12T16:49:01+00:00

I've seen that dude on the left before. Very effeminate

MRA-Sid · 2019-11-12T18:41:12+00:00

Feminists are good for nothing. They just ruin everything. Get woke go broke. They should stop making such movies and return back to original cinema. Only men can be heroes and suitable for lead in action movies because they can take responsibilities and sacrifice unlike feminists who know only whining all the time. Even in Wonder Woman movie it was a man who sacrifices his life.

Forwordsalluppercase · 2019-11-12T18:42:37+00:00

Alita would have made a profit if the media didn't say it was a right wing movie.

crityouallday · 2019-11-12T19:01:21+00:00

If Hollywood is destroyed by whamen I'm ok with it. If history has any lessons to teach it's that whatever whamen gets their hands on dies.

anongogogo · 2019-11-12T17:17:10+00:00

They keep pushing out these shitty movies there must be some agenda here or someone with lots of money to wash. Just a paranoid theory. I heard there is another new one call The Tomorrow War and it have a bunch of over the wall wymyn carrying guns mix with guys.

rocko20002 · 2019-11-12T19:04:30+00:00

Especially I don't want to watch what I presume is going to be a Charlie's Angels reboot featuring Kristen Stewart. Maybe I'm only judging her from Twilight, but she's perhaps one of the blandest actresses out there. And as much as I'm not as fan of the Diaz/Barrymore/Liu reboot, at least it had the intention of being action packed and cheerful, not to mention it had Bernie Mac (RIP) as Charlie, which actually made it not suck that much. This one looks it's gonna be a social commentary on how men are evil. And Stewart looks like she is about to scissor the other two. And I bet Charlie's gonna be a dyke.

Soldierbosh · 2019-11-12T20:16:02+00:00

I bet it's basically just chaos at your average studio. The alpha dudes have either left, or don't really know how to deal with the obnoxious SJW's, because they didn't teach that shit (or didn't used to) in business school. So, you have swarms of woke SJW's in management positions bullying people with their nonsense, and so projects which should have been laughed out of the room and being green-lit.

What's weird is that they must still do audience testing. That's why their stars were paid so much: they tested well among sections of the population that were actually going to go to the cinema. Charlie's Lesbians will test appallingly, I've no doubt at all, but they still made it. Odd. Say what you like about Hollywood Producers, they used to how to make money. Fuck knows what they are doing now, they can't literally all be pedos.

I begin to feel sorry for Weinstein. He is just a butt-ugly jewish bloke who found a way to make money and tap Hollywood ass. He's a jerk-off, but it looks like the women agreed, and that they were actually adults ...

MDMantis-Toboggan · 2019-11-12T16:51:25+00:00

Eventually the accountants will wake up from their coma.

Slapnuts711 · 2019-11-12T19:00:45+00:00

Maybe they think if they just keep putting them out, sooner or later audiences will capitulate and go see them. Problem is that there are too many options for entertainment out there. There is lots of good TV, streaming, video games, etc. If movies are all garbage, people just won't go and Hollywood can lose as much money as they like.

JihadNinjaCowboy · 2019-11-12T19:26:25+00:00

Movie-goers are the customers.

The customer is always right.

Diogeneplz1 · 2019-11-12T22:55:18+00:00

There is no such thing as a female action figure in real life. Look at Venezuela. You see any bitches being war lords or lone wolfs? I bet the Venezuela women and many men got a real reality check.

OddPhilosopher1 · 2019-11-13T01:58:51+00:00

Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.

When you see, on screen, a 4'11, 100 lb chick, kicking the ass of a Brock Lesnar type dude, that's just too much to ask of an audience.

2019-11-12T17:38:28+00:00

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massy525 · 2019-11-12T18:22:18+00:00

I say this in every thread about moves , I have small conspiracy theory. I am starting to wonder if the decades of "hollywood accounting" (look it up) has a part to play in this.

According to "Hollywood accounting" even some of the most financially successful movies ever made lost money on paper. I wonder if the accounting in the industry is stuck in the golden age of hollywood where any blockbuster would rake in money. Now the accountants are institutionalized in fudging numbers that don't exist and the studio's actually can't tell what movies really are losing money.

Misappropriation of money by accident is much easier than it seems at the bottom levels, not even counting people stealing. Thats why accounting as a profession is such a stable career. They want trustworthy people to stay around watching things.

Everybody has their personal anecdote about an accountant that got fired. I have them too. However if you actually talk to them about it they will without exception admit they noticed things that made them worry about the stability of the company years in advance. They may have noticed large sums of money dissapearing to the CEO's personal account, loans for payroll ,unpaid invoices ,ect.

MethaCat · 2019-11-12T20:09:45+00:00

I think first we really need to talk about those "projected loses" estimates. As far as I know, Hollywood loves to inflate those numbers, what I see in most cases is a break even or small profit, which would explain the situation better (the situation of keep making female power movies), than just being stubborn.

Mens_rights_matter2 · 2019-11-12T20:40:12+00:00

That chick that plays the Tomb Raider is really hot. I don't need to see the movie but a free poster would be nice.

MadLad2019 · 2019-11-12T20:42:45+00:00

I like this but the advertising budget should be listed under the production budget, it's my understanding that it usually matches or exceeds the production budget. So the $50 million production includes shelling out another $50 million+ to advertise the movie. Paying for TV spots on multiple channels costs millions in itself, then there is all the product advertising, aka slapping your movie sticker on something completely unrelated to the movie, Star War cauliflower anyone? Then you have to pay to get your stars on the late night shows to promote the movie, press junkets, taking the movie to film festivals, and finally a big gilded premier. Oh then you have to pay for your good reviews too, how else will you get that 85% fresh on rotten tomatoes while the audience scores you at a 44%.

ClubZlut · 2019-11-12T21:07:05+00:00

I don't really mind or care about well-written female led movies. If it's good I'll watch it like any other good movie.

I care when said female lead is clearly shoehorned in and forced to relevance and laced with all manner of pc-pandering Virtue-signaling. Captain Marvel could have been SO much better.

2019-11-12T22:42:31+00:00

I'd be okay with this if they actually cast women who look like they could actually do the stuff they are pretending to do.

Charlize Theron was mis-cast in Atomic Blond. She is the least physical female actor in Hollywood.

And a lot of the action that females are doing is just gratuitous and sometimes sadistic violence against males. Of course they often justify this is tropes like he's creepy or a racist or rapist.

Those Charlie's Angels actresses weren't cast because of their action film credentials (which are none). They were cast because they are pretty, diverse, and some have popular followings.

Gal Gadot doesn't look very strong, but in the role of Wonder Woman she doesn't have to be. The fantasy element imbues her with strength. At the same time they didn't pit her against men or portray men as bumbling psychopaths. Well, at least not all of them. It was unrealistic and sometimes the action scenes were over the top but it was fun and it never abused the suspension of disbelief.

And then there are the roles that replace men just because they want to replace men. They aren't creating a new story. They are disposing of the original characters on the basis that women will do it better.

I resent that. Make your own goddamn screenplay and ditch the man-hate and while your at it go to the gym and learn how to actually fight so you look believable in a role and also, play to your strengths rather than pretending you have a man's strengths. Cuz that's just fucking dumb.

frikabg · 2019-11-12T23:06:07+00:00

The people/customers DO NOT exist to serve Hollywood or any other entertainment business ... the business exists so it can try to entertain the people/customers. Hollywood can want to suck my dick but it still ain't happening!

Azuzu88 · 2019-11-12T23:54:53+00:00

Seriously, these budgets are ridiculous. How the fuck do you take 400 million on a 170million budget and still lose 50 million? That's fucking insane

itwasntme19 · 2019-11-13T00:14:51+00:00

Women dont watch action flicks. They should be making girly movies cause that's what works for them. How do you cut out more than half your audience and expect to make money?

Fallion_Moon · 2019-11-13T00:21:21+00:00

Alita was actually pretty good doe but the rest is trash...

Cuck-WTF · 2019-11-13T00:45:28+00:00

Force a woman into a corner and have them defend themselves or loved ones. That's the lead action role that has worked.

Religious zealotry is also believable.

The bored female action star is the problem. The Mary Sue.

Now there are female power roles that aren't action and aren't the main role which work just fine. First that comes to mind is Poppy Adams from the 2nd Kingsman film. She dealt plenty of death without being an action role. Also probably my favorite performance of Julianne Moore.

lone_nordic_wolf · 2019-11-13T00:50:17+00:00

How long are they going to keep shoving it down our throats?

horse3y3s · 2019-11-13T00:57:19+00:00

Well, this sure helps with the piracy issue. These last trash movies weren't even worth for free

kayfab · 2019-11-13T01:15:45+00:00

Lol charlies angels goes lesbian

zerosignal99 · 2019-11-13T02:52:52+00:00

I read an article that the next 007 movie character will not be James Bond. It is a female. I hope it fails miserably.

Iperovic · 2019-11-13T03:44:28+00:00

Theaters across the world are seeing a record-low attendance anyway...a decade ago I was pretty much going to the movies once a week, nowadays once every 3 months maximum and that's for an actual movie like Joker

MrMagtow · 2019-11-13T05:23:26+00:00

I can say I'm definitely laughing a lot more when watching TV and movies these days.

This popcorn is making me thirsty!

Ibelieveallwomen · 2019-11-13T05:56:38+00:00

The action movie with the most female movie goers of all time is Aquaman.

RegiusGeralt · 2019-11-13T07:29:10+00:00

Get woke go broke.

RoboMandrake · 2019-11-13T07:38:02+00:00

Went and saw the new Midway movie tonight. Refreshing to have men being men and the handful of women in the movie behaving as actual feminine women though not weak. And, of course, lots of stuff blowing up.

xdrunkagainx · 2019-11-13T07:56:24+00:00

I'm looking forward to the next generation of woke reboots, an all Trans Ghostbusters is a fuckin hit if you ask me.

r8001 · 2019-11-13T10:47:01+00:00

It's put perfectly in the article:

With films such as Charlie Angels currently tracking below a 15 million dollar opening weekend on a production budget of 50 million, you wonder how much more money does Hollywood need to lose before they get the picture? The answer? A lot more.

Far-lefts don't back down, unless they absolutely fucking have to. Live or die situation. Until then, they will be doubling down on their shit and even then instead of making a full-time stop, they will just slow down a little.

For every Captain Marvel, there have been dozens of female-led films in the last couple of years that haven’t matched the excitement of audiences that comes from its creators, especially financially.

And even that only worked out because it's a part of a huge and popular universe and was advertised as a "must see before Endgame". The actress and characters were universally hated and her continued success is highly questionable.

2019-11-13T01:21:04+00:00

Anna was actually pretty entertaining. I like Luc Besson films though. Worth the $2 rental

Jonger1150 · 2019-11-12T20:46:54+00:00

I'd rather see the Terminator use T-800's only.... and a lot of them. Skinned and un-skinned.

We know females in the future are good fighters, Kyle mentioned this in the 1984 movie -- so I'm fine with female supporting cast, but not as the main character.

Title	Hollywood Wants Female-Led Action Films…Audiences Don’t.
Author	TVCCH3
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Date	November 12, 2019 3:53 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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