Back From the Beach

Raikkonen716 · 2017-05-30T07:53:47+00:00

"We're taught terror from the nursery. Terror of God, or, even worse, of scandal. We're taught to spend our entire lives cowering in self-denial. The truth, Mr Gray, is that every impulse we strangle only poisons us." Oscar Wilde, The picture of Dorian Gray.

InSunlightWeBelong · 2017-05-30T09:05:43+00:00

This post needs far more recognition. Unplugging leaves a feeling of emptiness that many men are experiencing on this sub, and this post addresses that nicely

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-05-30T14:00:07+00:00

Sounds like you had a great time.

I did too on Saturday at a beergarden.

It sort of says something about the Red Pill that those who really internalize the teachings actually go out into the real world and experience it for real.

The Rubik's Cube™ becomes inside you... and when you are experiencing reality first hand you see those twists.

New insights emerge as a result of having this strong Red Pill base.

If only this existed when I was 20... it was so sad all those decades (1980's through just the last 5 years)... I think of how much less I understood before.

At 56 years old it's great to "finally get it" but I wish I knew at 20.

The Blue Pill mythology hides the Truth from you and that's a crime.

Stilfull · 2017-05-30T08:11:10+00:00

I'm not going to give you any internet validation whatsoever, because you're not in need of it anyway. It's good to see an independent man though, let's hope others can follow your actions that's around you, with the same intention.

killermike-el-P · 2017-05-30T12:18:30+00:00

This is why people come to the red pill after very bad experiences (mostly with women). What happens is the blue pill individual realises for all his work to make himself a good individual and a nice guy, no one really cares about him, they praise him but they don't care for him. The praise is simply meant to keep him happy with his lowly position, this is why the anger phase is a thing, guys realise all the nice things they've heard weren't meant to empower him they were meant to anchor him to a belief system that puts other people first and himself last.

destruct_zero · 2017-05-30T13:00:42+00:00

This post hits square on the nose what it means to be a man. Nietzche would also agree.

axeAce90 · 2017-05-30T14:45:02+00:00

This is such an important aspect of RP. You have to be self-referencing all the way or else you will suffer from chasing external validation which is fleeting. You cant grab onto anything that's on the outside, it is 100% about your center, your being grounded on your own values that determines your level of satisfaction and overall happiness. Outcome independence means taking those "bad" things on the chin with a grin and also maintaining the same steadfastness when something good happens. Don't cling to "good" or "bad".

Additionally, if you're in the moment you're not worrying about getting praise because you're purely enjoying what is happening. There is no room for analyzing because your mind is occupied with the current happenings. It's not in the past or the future.

[deleted] · 2017-05-30T10:59:02+00:00

Good stuff

The idea that you are somehow supposed to get a magical Pat on the back for being a fun human being is nuts.

I do it all the time. Maybe one out of ten times I end up with a cool chick and maybe one out of those 3 or 4 times do they become a girl I see again.

But that also equates to like once or more a month which kind of adds up and then you end up with some plates.

CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK · 2017-05-30T13:42:24+00:00

Under-appreciated post. Important point, well explained.

1Maverick1 · 2017-05-30T15:09:25+00:00

Once life is in your hands and you realize you don't need to answer to anyone, you can finally rid yourself of that mentality of wondering what other people are thinking. I was watching this FightTips video and there are a lot of parallels between the thinking you mention and fighting itself (here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSKfYqJUXvo). This guy Tony goes into talking about how once people are in a fight they generally think about what the opponent is going to do. If you spend time wondering that, you've already lost the fight.

The most important thing to do is know yourself well enough to just be able to react to your environment and judge for yourself how you are reacting. Worrying about other people's actions and judgement is a way to try and live life through someone else's mind when all you should really ever be concerned with is life through your own mind.

HardForge · 2017-05-30T17:19:43+00:00

Thanks for a solid post. Your point ties in with an insight I experienced over the last week. I recently ended an LTR and read through Rollo's Preventative Medicine. LTR-as-a-Goal is the feminine frame, which men are conditioned into from birth. Any LTR based on the particular females frame is contrary to the male partners frame (see Cardinal Rule).

The reasons I had against ending it all stemmed from a mixture of scarcity, oneitis, pedestalization. I enjoyed the contentment I received from the relationship (during the time things were OK). I didn't want to lose that... but the truth is that was false contentment. I had my head in the sand, thinking I enjoyed the taste of the sand. Seeking those feelings through another, particularly a female, is a recipe for disaster and disintegration.

Despite finding TRP over three years ago, I now understand in a deep way why maintaining ones own frame is important. Whether that's exerting the male meta-frame through plate spinning, or just having a good time like you did with no need to account to anyone else.

The validation seeking, the looking for acceptance and love from above, as you mention, is not the healthy male way. It's the feminine conditioning that society had pressed upon me... even knowing about the TRP, I still fought back for awhile.

Glad to be back, gentlemen.

[deleted] · 2017-05-30T18:54:46+00:00

When I do something I perceive as a "step in the right direction" I feel proud. I'd say YOU (or your brain) does reward you, and this reward is the most important reward as it helps you learn and improve.

When I do something wrong, I am not proud and usually reflect back on what I am doing wrong.

Right now my thing is eye contact. I am good at it, but when I glance at someone or someone glances at my I'm trying to train myself to not immediately avert their gaze.

I am always aware of when I succeed and when I don't, and when I do succeed the reward of satisfaction and pride is enough to keep me going.

MrAnderzon · 2017-05-31T00:59:49+00:00

Im curious. I also enjoy not needing validation and doing exactly what I want.

My question is. That at some point all of us here. Are we all gonna want some validation?

stawek · 2017-05-31T09:51:22+00:00

What's different about the Red Pill world is there's no external authority affirming what you're doing. This weekend I spent all of Saturday night dancing with a hot girl. I had a successful weekend, but I received no "praise" for it.

The girl in question affirmed your action. You are part of the society. Doing "whatever you want" is a naive motion.
And then you come here for some extra validation from us.

rektHav0k · 2017-05-30T10:20:01+00:00

Wow. Well put. I've been watching a lot of Jordan Peterson lately and you echo a theme he has about social hierarchy and God's placement in it all. He mentions the idea that we create God at all levels of our hierarchy and look for validation from the next higher step. He argues that we need to stop doing that and instead either not seek validation, because it is useless, or seek validation from only the highest tier, so that we are not taken advantage of. Your message resonates with his quite well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5_-pfqFGJI

Radioactivebuny · 2017-06-09T20:40:31+00:00

I spent the whole weekend more or less shooting guns with my dad in Colorado. No women, no drinking, just some manly man shit on a beautiful ranch with the sun on our faces (at little too much, I got toasted) and shooting groups that would make Carlos Hathcock proud at 600 yards.

I've always been more inclined toward the quiet (in atmosphere, at least. Guns are NOT quiet).

Never really liked parties or too much raucousness. It was exactly what I wanted to do and I loved every second of it.

Title	Back From the Beach
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Date	May 30, 2017 2:41 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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