TL;DR: Stick to your principles. Hold frame, even if it feels like she wants you to fold (she absolutely never does). Negs are overused in my opinion with average women. But when you have a woman who feels like her SMV is higher than yours, it's a very powerful tool. Watch the movie The Goodfellas.


Last weekend I had a first date with a gogo dancer. Perfect body, great face. Not the smartest tool in the shed, but street smart and the kind of girl who's been hit on all her life, so she can smell a lack of confidence or someone faking it a mile away.

First date went well. Ended up making out but she played hard to get. Didn't push for the lay since it felt like it would come off as desperate.

Anyway, she seemed very distant in future messages, wouldn't commit to a time/place for second date. This is where a good placed Neg can do wonders. I made fun of her age (late 20s, no longer 18) and made fun of her bad English. Two things that I had a hunch she might be self conscious about. It worked like magic. All of a sudden she was spamming me with messages about what an asshole I am (in a good way) and that she wants to see me that very night. (the next day confirmed that she was very intrigued by me when I said those things since guys don't talk to her like that).

Some might say it's a good time to deny her and say I'm busy, get her wanting me even more, but I believe in striking when the iron is hot in situations like this, because a Neg is a cheap trick, and it is used to get her into a certain emotional frame that I want her in. She won't stay there indefinitely.

We went out 2nd date. During the date, at two points she shit tested me (first I'm sure was a shit test, 2nd I treated it as such regardless). While we were at the bar drinking, she was asking me to rate the girls around us (which I did honestly). An hour or so later, I mentioned that the girl to her right was really cute. She looked at me as if she was insulted, told me "Don't ever disrespect me like that. If you like her, go talk to her. Go ahead, I won't stop you".

The second shit test was while we were outside of her place. She called me out on some personal information I told her about myself (not giving details here) insinuating I lied about them.

Both shit tests I passed the same way, increasing SMV in the process:


How to respond to rudeness and shit tests

There is much material on the sidebar about shit tests, and there is much more that 1 right way to deal with them. In general I believe in amused mastery. But in the case where the shit test is attached together to an insult or rudeness, I believe the proper response is always being firm and harsh, to show that you respect yourself more than to bend to her frame. It scares them, but also feels like you're willing to drop them and go your way. Peaks your SMV in their minds and gets them wet.

In the first scenario, here she said I was disrespectful and to go talk to the other girl instead. I put on an upset face and said very firmly but in a soft controlled voice "Disrespected you? What are you talking about?". It's very important to understand my tone and body language, and NOT the words I used. If you guys have seen the movie The Goodfellas (a must watch), think of Tommy when he asks "What do you mean I'm funny? Funny how? Like a clown? Like I amuse you?" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY ). It's the dangerous, upset but also in control body language and tone of voice that says "nobody says this kind of shit to me. explain yourself". Immediately her response was a nervous laugh and "I'm drunk, I don't know what I'm saying". Again, this also gets her to respect me for being a man, which in turn makes her want me to fuck her

2nd shit test. Exactly the same response. "are you calling me a liar?". With her also nervously laughing and saying "No, no. Just was confused". This was right outside of her place. Once inside, she was as submissive as a little bunny rabbit to everything I did to her.

EDIT Lots of times women do these shit tests because they might sense some incongruence, might sense like you are faking something, might not be sure how much of a man you are, etc. etc. These kinds of shit tests give them exactly the answer they need to understand who you are deep down. And it's one of the most important things when trying to sleep with high SMV women.


Closing thoughts All in all, this is a short FR, and while I don't really do field reports, I thought I'd write this one down, since it shows an effective way to make yourself come off as masculine and shows how to shut down certain things a woman says. But, it requires that you know how to project yourself and how to use tone and body language properly.

Certain movies with very Alpha characters, especially gangster movies are very beneficial to watch and try to emulate. For the actors to come off as sincere in their roles they need to use proper tone and body language, more so than actual gangsters in many cases. Watching them can teach you a lot.