This abortion ban has really shown just how ignorant so many MGTOW are regarding female nature.

hiroshimatruthbombs · 2019-05-17T16:44:59+00:00

Dropping truth bombs.

Like it.

DangZagnut · 2019-05-17T16:25:51+00:00

It's all the trad cucks that come in here in election season. They're trying to push their own agenda.

I think there should be mandatory abortions to protect men. I don't give a crap about these stupid arguments about mens rights about babies they clearly don't give a shit about much less pay for them.

If you want kids so much, get married and pay for them. Support paying for other people's kids as well. You want your precious babies? Suffer for them. Support those single mothers trad cucks. And not just the "innocent white ones". You know, support shaniqua and her 5 kids too since you worship babies and vaginas you cucks.

You don't get to spread your seed like a retard and your retard babies sop up more government largess with single mothers. Fuck that noise. That's for the lazy, and I don't cotton to lazy men. They're called simps and cucks. They want all the 'fathering" with none of the responsibilities and that's just bitch think. You know.

Like a bitch.

I'm pro-male, not pro-losers who think like a bitch.

Women have always been women, only trad-tards think otherwise. They, like feminists, think this magical 1950s time period existed. The only difference now, is instead of them talking about it in a living room over coffee, they talk about it on public social media.

The fifties weren't a fantasy utopia. It wasn't.
It sucked for most people.
Don't believe old 50s movie propaganda films.

Joey_Lopez · 2019-05-17T17:28:30+00:00

I think the problem is that we facilitate females primal nature with things like abortion and male provisioning without the man's consent. So females are free to act on their worse instincts.

We control and police men from acting on their worst instincts but not women. If we remove abortion, child support, and alimony, females will have to clean up their acts.

Then the belligerent females that don't fall in line will just have to live with the consequences of their bad decisions. While the compliant females will be taken care of.

RedPilledSimp · 2019-05-17T16:35:38+00:00

Relax, OP. My guess is most people here do know the things you wrote.

Phantom_Spark · 2019-05-17T16:35:40+00:00

I agree. Nothing has shaped female behavior. In the past female behavior was limited and controlled. Now it reigns free and we see how truly corrupt they are when left unchecked. Men don’t even trust other men enough to allow us to go unchecked. Why should we trust women?

Malbek604 · 2019-05-17T16:55:12+00:00

Who cares? We're going our own way. What whores do or don't do with their bodies is no concern of mine.

mnight75 · 2019-05-17T19:33:33+00:00

The slogan should be unless you are paying the bill for it for the next 18 years you don't get a voice.

That said, after being told I don't get an opinion on abortion because I don't have a vagina, has me all popcorn over this shit.

Watching, laughing, and not getting involved. Let them fight this out without men's help. Fuck them.

Know how I control abortion in my life? I don't hand out the fucking sperm. That's true abortion, stopping before it even starts and denies her any "choice".

cainman02 · 2019-05-17T17:01:31+00:00

What if I just don't like the thought of babies being ripped apart. I could give a shit less about the whore. But if you murder somebody you should be charged accordingly.

mgtowmonk1234 · 2019-05-17T16:29:17+00:00

Well said bro. Didn’t think about it seriously yesterday but this is extremely accurate, especially about the government attempting to control men through women. It’s always been about that.

Great reminder!

throwaway12394847 · 2019-05-17T18:02:10+00:00

Stop calling it a ban. It's still allowed up to 6 weeks. In the case of rape or incest, women can still go right to a clinic and get it taken care of.

jamocadyn · 2019-05-17T19:00:22+00:00

An abortion ban is a ban on killing babies in the womb. It's basically telling people that killing a person is illegal...even if the person is still gestating inside a woman. I could care less about the woman...she was the one who spread her legs.

Justsaynotobs · 2019-05-17T19:50:37+00:00

Nature is the same sure but current laws, social media, women’s right to vote has ENABLED this nature 100x since the 1900’s. Does that make sense to you?

cainman02 · 2019-05-17T17:01:43+00:00

What if I just don't like the thought of babies being ripped apart. I could give a shit less about the whore. But if you murder somebody you should be charged accordingly.

AnAbyssWatcher · 2019-05-17T21:31:48+00:00

True...we already know female nature. The quality of a female...depends on the culture in which she is raised in. If she gets knocked up, and she gotta keep that baby...it won't be so easy for her to monkey branch any more. We all know once she delivers that baby her smv goes to zero for competent men; so, she has to be careful sleeping around. And in the event she gets pregnant...her sorry arse will have to drive all the way to another state that gives abortions and drain the resources of that state she goes to do the abortion. If she uses a coat hanger or something else at home and dies in the process...good deal. Now we will have a wicked female suffer physically, financially, and mentally for her poor choice. She will have to be more accountable as regards being reckless with her body

MrBluePill · 2019-05-17T22:00:25+00:00

In their heads women see reality as if they're in the Handmaid's Tale, their dissonance allows them to see being cruel and cheating as acts of justified rebellion. There's no way a male can break that kind of conditioning down.

pongpong123able · 2019-05-17T19:45:30+00:00

This isnt about men or women's rights. This is about preserving life for a developing human being

username----------- · 2019-05-17T21:07:28+00:00

Human nature is often shitty, but female nature is truly sickening and disgusting

cypresstalker · 2019-05-17T17:23:00+00:00

Maybe I'm monk and I want their lives to suck? They can keep the baby or try the coat hanger route. If you still fuck around, thats on you bro. A return to tradition morality is the only thing that will save the west. Contraceptives basically created a new species

jonathino001 · 2019-05-17T23:59:36+00:00

Seeing sooooo many posts regarding the abortion ban that seem to believe that women act the way they do because society has molded them into the creatures they are today.

While I'm sure there are some MGTOW who believe that, I think you may be misunderstanding what's being said.

Sure, the current state of society didn't CAUSE hypergamy, but it does ENABLE it. It enables it to a FRIGHTENING degree. Women used to be loyal because they had no other choice. The consequences for being caught were too dire. They'd be shamed into oblivion, and a single woman couldn't get by.

Now there's no consequences for women being disloyal, so their hypergamy is completely uninhibited. They're free do so almost anything they like, and so they cheat and lie and jump from dick to dick, and damn any man who get's hurt in the process.

I'm certainly no tradcon, but I'll be damned if they don't have a point.

NAILmg42 · 2019-05-17T16:40:33+00:00

No shit. Female nature is universal. Even when society was a hazardous divorce industry and men ha authority in the family unit, a small percentage were bachelors. A small percentage strong enough to see through women. When and if mgtow collapses shit and the government and men agree to restore the patriarchy to fix the world back to what worked for 1 million years plus, there will still be some men who go there own way, but the majority of mgtows here will disappear and go get married in a system that won't eat them.

Bottom line: your telling these men off for not seeing female nature after the influx of redpill Reddit immigrated here and half of mgtows at least are mgtow for survival not choice. When survival isn't threatened they will go back. What ya gonna shame them then too?

Someone has to keep the lights on for the future and it won't be mgtows.

PythagorasNT · 2019-05-17T16:53:48+00:00

They have been that way since Eve, or Lillith if you go that way.

Docbear64 · 2019-05-17T16:57:35+00:00

Because men refuse to see this has been a problem for more than 100 years Many of the grievances we list about women today the Anti-suffragette men were expressing literally 100 years ago and more :

https://urlzs.com/3hUfw
https://urlzs.com/dkLs7
https://urlzs.com/hzjjm
https://urlzs.com/2mRAq
https://urlzs.com/dJoPv

Who knows how much longer ago that men have been complaining about the selfish , shrewish , abusive nature of women ? I can point to a few bible scriptures that express many of our same issues .

ahugebundleofsticks · 2019-05-17T18:49:57+00:00

It didnt make thdm like that but it sure as hell removed any shame that was once part of the loyalty equation.

My grandparents are a unit and have bedn for over 60 years. Yes this shit will never be possible again (even my grandparents realize that)

But to say society hasnt aided in the demise of the family unit is hogwash.

I agree with most of what you said though as wishing for this to be possible in 2019 is as you stated a fucking 8K 3D VR fantasy.

FutureSquall · 2019-05-17T18:51:03+00:00

The ones who are pushing hard are also the ones who are pissing their pants over the birthrates. A lot of them are indeed scared of Muhammad and other 3rd world nations taking over. Demographics is indeed destiny.

beatles-lover · 2019-05-17T22:46:35+00:00

Stop pining away for something that never existed and go your own way.

What I'm pining for is a society that keeps female nature in check.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2019-05-18T11:57:00+00:00

Female nature has not changed inherently, but the environment and society controlled certain aspects which made them tolerable.

For example women have always been hypergamous since the dawn of time, but in the middle ages there were laws that helped curb their hypergamy. They couldn't cheat on you and then subsequently divorce you and rip your wallet out of your ass. With those kinds of protections, it was safer to get into a relationship with a woman.

However you can't deny that things like tinder, #MeToo, and other things haven't made women infinitely worse because those things put absolutely no checks on female nature (and in fact encourage them to showcase the worst aspects of said nature). Yes, abortion laws, rewinding No Fault Divorce, etc., won't change female nature, but we can put laws that punish women for their worst behaviors.

You close your post by saying that women will never love you. I don't think MGTOW disagree, especially since that's one of the first things you learn when you become MGTOW. However the main point is that if we want children, which we realize is the onyl value in the relatinonship, we have no choice but to tolerate a woman. Back in the "good old days", we had laws that helped protect us from female nature. Today, they're gone, and in fact there are laws taht encourage women to abuse their power.

JBurger58 · 2019-05-17T16:46:08+00:00

Maybe it has to do with religion. TRP is based on evolutionary psychology...something most religious folks reject. If that is the case, they will look at changes in society for these issues occuring. Society is a factor though, as feminism removed social and institutional mechanisms put in place to mitigate infidelity. Society has become gynocentric due to feminism and there is no accountability... this has just unleashed the female limbic system.

2019-05-17T19:32:18+00:00

Abortion + female liberation doesn’t fix anything. I made a post about this but it barely got any notice. These laws WILL have effects and change things. Women can put a man in jail or under child support if she really wishes too. Men are super blue pill and will do anything for vagina. She still has a way to control birth, but she still can poke a hole in a mans condom or not take her birth control pills and lie about it. Condoms are still not a guarantee and men will rely on condoms.

The government could be trying to fix the decline of birth rates too. Anything everyone cheers about the government doing, I don’t cause I know they are up to something. It’s like Obama saying “change” but shit has barely changed. Declining birth rates means less worker zombies. Women start having babies and multiple babies from different dudes. That’s multiple incomes. Hell, companies could start making condoms unreliable and lying cause America is full of lies. I don’t trust a thing the government does.

Women are master manipulators and can get a man to eat her crumbs off the ground thanks to society pedestalizing them.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2019-05-17T20:29:46+00:00

I doubt many here thinks women would ever allow us to go back to the 50's, if they do they are smoking some good shit, the cat is out of the bag and there ain't no putting it back unless we have a complete breakdown of society, which might happen but I hope not while I am around as I think if it goes it will be bloody and messy. Although I will grab the popcorn and a bottle of scotch to watch the burning, I don't hope for it but I will grab enjoyment where I can.

oneregulardude · 2019-05-18T00:11:37+00:00

Again here I a remminding everyone about a story called Adam and eve, eve fucked up then dragged Adam into the bullshit, first recorded fuck up by a woman that ultimately tesulted in our downfall. Yes sir.

Inkfyuk · 2019-05-18T00:36:45+00:00

Barbarossa said something that hit home for me in one of his videos. It was something to the effect of, "blaming the way women act on female nature paints women as having no choice beyond biological impulses. I refuse to blame the way women act solely on biology, and if a person can't overcome their impulses I cannot consider that person human." Not an exact quote but it got the spirit of it, I'll try to find the video and link it.

I would also add that blaming it all on female nature is like white knighting. You take all blame off the women who acted poorly because she can't help it and needs a patriarchy to control her. What a joke, the "it's all female natures fault" sham is just making it so that women had no choice, so they can't be blamed.

How about this, they have female nature, and could choose not to follow through with based on right and wrong, but dont because there are few repercussions. The same way some men do, but for men there are more consequences so it doesn't happen as often. I know crazy idea, now there are people who are moral and even without consequences they would do what they think is truly right. Those are rare though, and they exist for both men and women.

But if a man goes back on it he likely gets punished, the woman is not as likely to be punished. So you have no guarantee. I could keep going but the comment would be a mile long. The point is that the situation is much more nuanced than, "female nature is all our problems," it is very complex. People do the situation a disservice by trying to boil it down to one or two things.

Edit: grammar and formatting.

Zachjsrf · 2019-05-17T23:47:29+00:00

Is this the state of the sub now?

Content_Not_History · 2019-05-18T05:57:49+00:00

Not only that, but it should cause men to counter with:

"Awww, you're going to lose abortion ability in one wittle state? So sad.

Did you know that US MEN don't have ANY reproductive rights at all? Where's your outrage on that?"

... course, you'll just hear crickets...

WolfgangBreitweit · 2019-05-18T11:26:14+00:00

IMHO the abortions laws are not about women, but about making murder legal and turning it into a business. Which it is today. You are right, women have never been different. Men are making them survive which is why men are highly adaptive to nature/reality while women are waiting on the finishing line for men to do what's necessary. Women have been under strict male supervision for thousands of years, that's why they couldn't live their chaotic and dangerous ways. Since they have been given rights to do so, men put themselves into the position of being reactive instead of being preventive.

No law will change women ever. But it will help society to avoid troubles and minimize negative effects. Women can't be happy anyway. So who cares how they "feel" about laws going against their unfounded demands for rigths?

ILoveJuices · 2019-05-18T12:28:31+00:00

Most betas would rather have a slave woman who hates him (1950s) than be alone.

GrindingDaily · 2019-05-17T22:41:24+00:00

Harsh, but true

Sneakybobo · 2019-05-17T16:55:07+00:00

Thank You

FaustoLG · 2019-05-17T19:18:38+00:00

You think these laws were made by MGTOW? Now who's the stupid? These laws were made by conservatives, they have their own vision of society and MGTOW shouldn't even bat an eye on this issue, IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.

MGTOW has never claimed superiority over anyone and you wrote like you are the best shit in the world. Pro Tip: You AREN'T...

Also, if you claim to be MGTOW, giving attention to that particular situation is validating females, it's being a "blue pilled"...

If you fear that females will put you on Child Support it's because you are stupid enough by taking the risk, you KNOW very well what's at stake, if you really want to have sex then Prostitutes are less riskier that THOTs.

AMKGILLETTERASUR · 2019-05-17T20:05:45+00:00

Thats a nice blackpill brother.

Red_pilledman · 2019-05-18T01:24:34+00:00

Good Post! Understanding female nature is very important for men to do.

BlazeAlpha · 2019-05-18T06:31:20+00:00

Preach! It’s in their DNA, we can’t change thousands of years of evolution.

AlbertCohol · 2019-05-18T09:38:55+00:00

These laws won’t affect me anyway

CeleritySteam · 2019-05-18T10:29:33+00:00

I'm completely fine with the abortion spergery. Let females continue doubling down and announcing their true natures in front of the world.

Marriage serves one and only one purpose - children, even the tradcucks agree. By openly announcing their desires for killing children and that they believe themselves entitled in doing so the normies awaken and even some tradcucks awaken leaving only the most absolute NPC retards behind.

More men walk away and the Thot Question closes on an answer.

Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.

Blackfysh88 · 2019-05-18T21:22:56+00:00

It’s like a break up. Often you only see the real woman once you’ve dumped or been dumped by her. Society broke up with all western women so we’re just seeing the real versions of them.

v0lvic · 2019-05-19T08:06:23+00:00

All about human capital...locking men to the wheel.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T02:55:41+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you gave me an epiphany, that's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T02:55:57+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you gave me an epiphany, that's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T02:56:34+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you gave me an epiphany, that's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T03:03:43+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you gave me an epiphany, that's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T03:06:32+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you're right, to women it's always been a scheme. That's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T03:10:22+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you're right, to women it's always been a scheme. That's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T03:22:13+00:00

/u/mgtowmonk1234 Thank you OP, you're right, to women it's always been a scheme. That's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

Herpnderp145 · 2019-05-18T03:22:25+00:00

Thank you OP, you're right, to women it's always been a scheme. That's all it is, a way to control men through women. Mods, please sticky this post.

tacticalinfernape · 2019-05-18T03:26:31+00:00

agreed . but i do think that women were worthless all along . idk how you got this idea about mgtow .

tacticalinfernape · 2019-05-18T03:26:46+00:00

agreed . but i do think that women were worthless all along . idk how you got this idea about us .

tacticalinfernape · 2019-05-18T03:26:56+00:00

agreed . but i do think that women were worthless all along . idk how you got this idea about us .

tacticalinfernape · 2019-05-18T03:27:07+00:00

agreed . but i do think that women were worthless all along . idk how you got this idea about us .

Atton_Risk · 2019-05-18T03:56:11+00:00