Should I breakup with GF?

Tritheism · 2019-02-21T08:37:13+00:00

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This_Goy · 2019-02-21T08:35:01+00:00

I would say: continue with caution. If it seems toongood to be true, it generally isn't teue

Gingerbreadmannnn · 2019-02-21T09:39:53+00:00

If you are both each other’s firsts, absolutely do not throw that relationship away. That’s actually the person who you should marry technically speaking. If you break up with her, you’ll find it hard to find a girl who’s innocent and capable of loyalty like her.

If you’re thinking about dumping her to chase other girls, and she’s loyal, then she’s the one who might want to think about breaking up with you as harsh as that sounds.

Frankly, the question is whether or not you ever want a wife and a good family. If you dump her, then frankly you’re getting rid of your best chance to make that happen.

The only thing about her that you have to find out is how submissive she is to your male presence and whether she prioritizes a family or a career. If she explicitly says that she wants to have a family and kids and would put aside her career for it, you might’ve hit the lottery.

Personally, I couldn’t do it. Dumping a nice innocent girl for some nastyass used up pussy??? No thankssss lol

The reason that she finds it easy to ignore other guys is because you are her first. After one guy, girls start to lose their ability to bond. So I’d say that the loyalty that she’s showing now very well may be genuine as long as you’re a more masculine type of dude who is constantly pushing himself with new challenges. If you’re weak/effeminate and not driven, you might be working on borrowed time until she looks for a stronger male.

So should you dump her?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Nope

And you’re a dude, not a girl. You’re not working with a biolodical clock where you need to have children before 35 You’re not wasting your ‘young years’ lol. You can be a stud at 50 years old if you want to. Just stay in shape, work hard, and take care of yourself.

Remember though: Be masculine and have your own stuff going on. Don’t be a weak beta who bends to her every will. If you become whipped she’ll leave you irregardless of whether or not she’s your first.

Also think of it this way: What if she’s saying to hersef that she might be wasting her prime years and wants to be with other guys. Wouldn’t you be upset if she up and left because she wanted to chase other guys around when you already have a perfectly normal relationship? Treat her like you’d like to be treated in this situation.

You have a unique situation where you could actually have a normal looking traditional family. Don’t be dumb. Many men have made the mistake in your situation of leaving and never found someone for the rest of their lives. Don’t be that guy.

If this relationship doesn’t work out then don’t be afraid to break things off early in future relationships, but you at least want to let this one ride out and take it as far as possible.

Tritheism · 2019-02-21T08:37:39+00:00

Every single man that has been in a relationship or marriage thought that "she's the one/unicorn" at some point. You're full of hormones and are literally high and not thinking straight. She is as prone to hypergamy as any other woman, you just don't see it because your judgment is clouded. Enjoy it while it last and learn from it, you are already in it, might aswell ride it out and see where things go.

wap2dem · 2019-02-21T09:09:18+00:00

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CrackingYs · 2019-02-21T11:47:41+00:00

If she's not being a terrible person to you then I'd be inclined to stay with her. At this age she probably hasn't had enough time to hone her destructive manipulation skills yet. Basically she's too young to have become the demon that all women eventually do become.

Chances are nearly 100% she will eventually tire of you and meet a Chad that makes her tingle in ways you never did. At that point, when you get a sense that she's pulling away, or when your life situation dictates you go your own way (eg. going to college in another state) then pull ripcord and get out.

pablosito · 2019-02-21T09:14:31+00:00

Breaking up to get with other girls will haunt you. You’ll feel empty and regretful years after the fact especially if this girl is as amazing as you say. You’re young so you’re able to blindly and deeply love and to turn your back on it could be the. Biggest mistake of your life. I’ve been there man.

eduardkoopman · 2019-02-21T09:18:51+00:00

shes very attractive but thinks i'm better looking.

It's common/normal; that a woman dates someone overall better then herself. Either it being him being of "higher value" due to his better looks, better status/fame, better wealth/money.
Men generally date down, and women don't. Because women are more picky, especially when women are at their dating value peak years (early to mid 20's usually)

She doesn't show a single sign of hypergamy

That she dates a man more attractive looking then herself, is a kinda hypergamy. Maybe at some point in teh future, she may see a man that she thinks significantly better then you; and she may then date up.

hould breakup with her as I feel I'm missing out sometimes getting with other girls for instance.

Imo, "the missing out" reason, is a bullshit argument. It's more an excuse fro women to ride the cockcaroussel.
Imo, there is nothing wrong with choising pair-bonding (seasonally, a couple of years) over having a string of ONS/Hookups/etc.. Because in both cases one will often accumulate bad bagguage. It also depends on your nature-prgramming; some men are more build for promiscuity and some more for pair bonding. Usually we have a combination of both in us, but some are more programmed for one and some for th the other. I noticed, I am much more programmed for pair-bonding then for many flings.
Aka, not doing many hookups with chicks, you probably only will miss out on alot of drama, bullshit, ofcourse sexual encounters, and accumulated bad bagguage.

What might be more of a risk. Is the missing out on you personal development, growth, and setup for later. Because women (wether doing LTR things or Short term things) may be a big hindrance (and time waste) in your personal development. So be carefull for that.

She's borderline unicorn,

Teenage girls, have the potential to be (or appear) the closest to what an unicorn may look like. Because they sometimes can be less poluted then older women; and are less experienced then older women. The thing is very often, that as they get older they will change and lose these unicorn-ish traits. So don't bank on it staying the same/equal over time.

R00TT00R · 2019-02-21T15:07:40+00:00

I'm impressed with the answers here. Expected it to be a resounding "yes yes yes"

I have been with mine for a year now. She is faithful and has never asked for anything or played a single mindgame on me. And accepts and sees why I despise most women. We have also been through alot together and I'm sure you and your gf have been too.

My advice echoes the person before me. Continue on cautiously. Don't throw away a genuinely good thing. That is madness. But do not let it intoxicate or cloud your vision to what is going on. When you see a single warning sign that is usually it.

William_A_Bishop · 2019-02-21T09:01:24+00:00

Youll probably brake up eventually, youre pretty young, and lives change.

Id put yourself as the #1 priority, and see where it goes. Good luck, use a condom and dont marry her.

Astral-Projector · 2019-02-21T12:43:21+00:00

All chicks are whores. You will learn that as you get older. Take life for what it is now. Do whatever you want.

TheLightningMachine · 2019-02-21T13:01:28+00:00

You're both still children when it comes to relationship experience, no offense. No matter how good you think you have it, no matter how much you believe and trust in your girl and hold each others' hands as tight as you can, one day she will let go.

You'll suddenly feel her grip loosening, and it will be too late before you realize you couldn't have done anything about it. And at first, you'll blame yourself. Obviously there has to be something you said, or missed! You just don't have the experience, right? Stupid you! But no, none of that is true, and you only risk hurting yourself in the process.

The reality is that she, once a unicorn, will be corrupted by the friends she talks to on a daily basis. If it isn't in high school, it's in university. If it isn't in university, it'll be at work. One day she'll hear her whore friends talking about what a great performer Chad is, and it'll take a while, but one day she will feel like she's missing out. And even though you did everything for her, she will feel unhappy.

This is the path you're currently on. Make your choice.

ghostops3 · 2019-02-21T12:01:34+00:00

I think everybody has given you proper advice

Just don't get married that's all I can say

And use protection and dispose it safely

mallninja69 · 2019-02-21T12:35:21+00:00

Hey man, I was in a similar situation when I was 19. I was dating a girl that checked all of the boxes. She was attractive, kind, and considerate. I was her first boyfriend and the family treated me like their own. She was always loyal, didn’t party, and generally didn’t like going anywhere without me. About a year in, I was in college and surrounded by guys out partying and hooking up and I was jealous. I eventually broke up with her to pursue other women sexually. It wasn’t satisfying as people make it out to be.

I recently ran into her for the first time in 10 years. She still looks great and is in shape. I saw her loading up groceries into a nice new Land Rover and I walked over to say hi. Turns out that she now does some accounting job for a tech company, while her fiancé stays home and takes care of their son all day.

I sometimes wonder if I fucked up.

soggysao_88 · 2019-02-21T13:00:08+00:00

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hrm0894 · 2019-02-21T15:14:18+00:00

You both will change in ways you'll never expect. If she's "borderline unicorn" now, I promise you she won't be in the next couple years or even a decade.

She doesn't show a single sign of hypergamy as we've both gone on maybe one or two dates where she paid for herself every time.

Women play the long con. Dinner means nothing. Wait until real bills have to get paid, then she'll realize she can easily get a man to pay for her shit instead of slaving away at a job. I know way too many stay-at-home wives with degrees.

Just know that most teenage relationships don't last. You're in a state of infatuation and thus are blinded by your emotions.

MarqNiffler · 2019-02-21T15:49:32+00:00

You're both pretty young, and your life/ideals/behaviors are in a state of flux. Who you are now is not who you will be in a year, five years, etc. Same for her.

I say, if it's going great now, keep it up. No reason to ditch a smart, fun attractive sexy girl who is into you.

But be CAREFUL. Especially about getting her pregnant for God's sake, be careful and use protection and make sure she's using it too.

And keep taking red pills, and be vigilant about indicators that may lead to less desirable behavior from her. She may be cool now, but it takes just one push from the wrong friend or coworker for her to change her tune and slowly start working you over. Just pay attention, and remain ready to pull the plug if it gets even remotely close to going downhill.

MuleFool42 · 2019-02-21T15:50:27+00:00

You are really young. Let the relationship play out, very few people with who they're with at your age. You two will be totally different people in 5 years. Don't worry about dating other women if you've got a good thing going, like I said, it will likely end when you grow apart and then you can date other women.

Just don't marry or move in with anyone, or get them pregnant.

Enjoy!

seximaster · 2019-02-21T17:02:41+00:00

It doesn't have to be an either or choise! Just tell her you are going to be dating/sleeping with other girls. She may leave but there is no reason to commit to manogomy if that's not what you want

jonnytechno · 2019-02-21T17:34:44+00:00

Being each others first is a special thing that doesn't come around very often & most people don't experience that, don't throw it away for the idea of potential relationships you might be missing out on, your description of her makes her sound great, don't throw that away without good cause.

We hate the way women abandon relationships & marriages.... We're not hypoicrites like feminists

If say keep her, be cautious though

Edit: crikey, typo's abound

soggysao_88 · 2019-02-21T18:56:07+00:00

Dude, She's 18 and about to enter college so I think we all know what will most likely happen. imo make sure your life doesn't only revolve around her and do your own things. If things don't work out atleast your "world" wont fall apart like it does for most.

PS: Your best years as in getting tons of girls , money or w.e you want usually starts after 25

soggysao_88 · 2019-02-21T21:21:46+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/at6cn0/break_away_from_the_pressures/
Keep her, better her than a total thot, but unicorns aren't real

BloodlessTurnip · 2019-02-22T01:59:08+00:00

Philosophical:

So... this is clearly a situation of: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Keep her. Things might go to shit in the future - but that day is not this day. Enjoy learning about life and sex together - it might work, and you can't know until it doesn't work.

Logical:

She is at early peak sexual market value. Her sexual market value will go up for the next 6 years or so, peak and begin to decline. You don't have a lot of "today" sexual market value from the female perspective. They value money, status, your things, your devil-may-care attitude, your height. You are mostly potential value in the future; she is realized value now. She's an island of hot sex now. Why would you swim away from that hoping to find a better island over the horizon? It's a vast ocean out there - the next island might be a LOT farther than you think.

If she's not wet for you, not enthusiastic for your touch, turns away from your advances: OK. She's not into you and this relationship has limited potential future.

However, if she's wet, enthusiastic, moaning, and seeks your touch: then she's into you and you might as well enjoy it for as long as it lasts.

There is a value in being her first and she's more likely to pair-bond you for the long haul - which would be fulfilling.

Even if it doesn't work out in the long run - every day you get her at this age is during her "peak" value and your relatively low value. So you are getting a good value proposition. If you break up - her future lovers will be jealous because you got her at her best and getting better while they get her at good or going down. Your value as a man will be increasing over time and your prospects will be fine or improving for replacing her with a better/younger model if the long haul doesn't work with her.

This is a very clear decision: If you are happy and she is happy - KEEP HER. Today is for today. Tomorrow you may be dead.

TrojanPiece · 2019-02-22T02:12:28+00:00

It's up to you. I'd say don't believe in love at all. Loving her and actually trusting her puts you in a vulnerable spot and you are gonna get hurt or used, that's 100% what's going to happen. Give yourself the most importance, hook up with whomever you want. She attempts the same shit, dump her sorry ass. However great you might see her as, she cannot be greater than you. Otherwise, you haven't really taken the redpill as contrary to what you claim yet.

notyetcosmonaut · 2019-02-22T09:00:13+00:00

Dump her once a serious problem happens like cheating or a big lie. Or debt. Lots of guys get stuck with ex’s debts.

More importantly, make sure there isn’t some bs law that could screw you over. Cohabiting probably isn’t a good idea for example in some places they have something called common law marriage I think. You become married in the eyes of the law just because you lived together for x amount of time. That’s al the lag comes to mind.

NoConsent2019 · 2019-02-25T06:43:17+00:00

Beside wanting to fuck other chicks, what are your thoughts on your personal development? I mean: do you think you are using well your time?

As others said, try to dump your idea of "fear of missing out fucking other women", because sex will never fulfill you.

I would stick to the idea of "fear of missing out doing other stuff rather than investing in a relationship". If you can do both (desired personal development + relationship) than you are ok, continue doing both (but be prepared for her to dump you in the future, because she will).

If you can't do both (desired personal development + relationship) then break up.

End-Effector · 2019-02-21T08:44:57+00:00

17?

You are a kid. I do not think you should care about long time relathiships at that age.

Just have fun.

equanimous_samsara · 2019-02-21T08:58:25+00:00

Two dates isn't enough to tell, but if she really is an almost perfect unicorn why would you break up with her? do you really think other girls are going to be like that?

meerita · 2019-02-21T08:59:39+00:00

You think she doesn't look other guys. She already has two or three chads around her contact list ready to her anytime. Even if you marry her and gave her kids she will ditch you quickly if she gets the idea of switching males.

swankvagabond · 2019-02-21T09:18:11+00:00

Break up with her. I know it sounds like I'm dictating you but I'm not. It's that you're 17 years old, you're too goddamn young to be in a relationship. You should be having fun, finishing school, go to college or get a job and earn money. You have a life ahead of you and that girlfriend of yours will do anything to destroy all the future opportunities you'll ever have because she cannot love you, it's impossible. She only cares for what you can provide her.

Take a daily dose of red pill and embrace the MGTOW philosophy.

soggysao_88 · 2019-02-21T11:22:49+00:00

Stay with her, don't cheat but don't think this will continue forever.

College will transform her in something different.

If marriage is on the table, do a prenup or you will be raped.

ElCidCampeon93 · 2019-02-21T15:06:39+00:00

Enjoy what you have, but don't make it your everything. If she doesn't give you that much shit right now, then no need to break up with her, especially if you're only doing it to chase more tail. MGTOW is supposed to be about NOT marrying and settling down, about not making women your everything, and just going your own way. It's not about chasing tail and fucking as many girls as possible, it's about learning to be happy without women.

If you're with her for sex, enjoy what you have. But learn to be indifferent towards her and other women.

AcrobaticAge · 2019-02-21T17:20:23+00:00

Go take a look at r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen.

You sound like a male version of that.

Title	Should I breakup with GF?
Author	soggysao_88
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Date	February 21, 2019 8:30 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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