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[–]GLADmyNAMEaintDICK24 points 7 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
House M.D: 30% of all dad's don't realize they're raising someone else's kid.
Foreman: From what I've read, false paternity test are more like 10%.
House: That's what our moms would like us to believe.
House was not a super hero, but he was a great embodiment of snarky, hilarious, amused mastery. He had near invincible frame but of course he lost it because of feelings for Wuman eventually but that's expected in this day and age.
Overall the closest we do get to the embodiment of our raw masculinity is through superhero fiction, but it's entirely possible to do it through realistic fiction, and honestly we would do better to have more realistic expressions so it doesn't feel like a fantasy. But we know that is in itself a fantasy.
[–]AllahHatesFags 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
House was Red Pilled as fuck, he pretty much a MGTOW who only fucked whores through most of the series, until he briefly got with his boss later on, then crashed his car into her house to ruin her Thanksgiving for the lulz.
[–]red_philosopher 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
House: 30% of men are being cucked
Foreman: Nu-uh, it's 10% cause testing
House: Not everyone gets a paternity test dude, especially in France.
[–]NikolaGeorgiev 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
especially in France.
I read abouth that somewhere. This is why TRP is becoming political. They're making it political.
[–]MrCongeniality1 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link
This is a good perspective on what captures the imagination of men. Excuse me, though, while I go off on a tangent...
Comics can present an inspirational and fantastic story, but they are also porn sold to boys to delude themselves. With few exceptions, every superhero ever written has received his power by chance, luck, or birthright. Did he gain this status after years of hard work and study? No. He got bit by a lucky spider. He is made extraordinary, a man among men, without effort.
There is a reason comic consumption vastly skews toward a certain kind of guy, and those guys aren't using comics as inspiration to hit the gym. Be careful with fantasy, the idea of being gifted rewards without a lifetime of effort can worm its way deep into your brain.
In general, I would suggest that men here limit all media consumption. It is an easy pleasure that wastes your time and demands nothing of you. While you sit in front of the TV, there are guys that you know that give off this sense of being out there, living life. You feel it, your girlfriend feels, your wife feels it.
Learn to fly a plane, work on your career, lift heavy things, learn to dance, take a martial art and actually fight another man, go hunt for treasure, get lost in the wilderness and save your own life. 10 years is a lot of time to work on yourself. If you put one foot in front of the other, you can find yourself in your 30s feeling like a superhero compared to the people around you.
[–]Prison4SideofBeef -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
I don't know where you get your ideas from.
How are comics any different from old stories of Achilles, Gilgamesh, Hercules, Quetzalcoatl or Horus? They aren't. Comics are just the use of images and text to tell a story. Humans have been making this shit since cavemen times. Heiroglyphics in ancient Egypt and central America, medieval Tapestries, the Iliad, and cavemen paintings of the tribe hunting mammoth and killing tigers are all older examples of this type of storytelling. It seems like it's human nature to me and has nothing to do with the current generation of do-nothing soy boys.
Humans just like stories about powerful idealized men kicking ass and overcoming obstacles. The only difference between us and the ancient Romans is they didn't have movies, TV or printing presses so they had to tell the stories orally.
[–]MrCongeniality1 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Rationalizing the status-quo is a weak position to take and the path of the mediocre. At the risk of sounding overly critical, I am going to list the responses that I think should have been obvious: 1) the timeframe you reference is meaningless in the evolutionary scope of the human condition, 2) the time period you reference was also civilized/agricultural and had plenty of effete men, 3) who was really spending time on these stories, the rules or the poor? 4) just because something has been around for a while doesn't mean it is optimal and non-toxic, 5) you inappropriately conflate stories of killing mammoths, which men can and did do, with stories of demi-gods fighting monsters.
6) Obviously, there is a huge difference in terms of the quantity of media consumption between ancient times and now, and I could have just made that argument and stopped there. But I think there is something deeper, and more principled, to learn about the desire for fantasy.
All of the badass men I know are attracted to real stories of things that other men actually did. Are there any men from history that you think highly of? Did they say they were inspired by the stories of Hercules or by the strategy of Hannibal? I grew up on comics and fantasy too, but when I started developing my physical self my desire for fantasy tanked hard. When I get the itch for fantasy, it almost entirely corresponds with a lack of living out my innate masculinity.
How much porn do you watch after having spent the weekend with a beautiful woman?
[–]Prison4SideofBeef 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
You're just making excuses to rationalize your narrative you are clinging to.
I don't watch porn at all. Porn is designed to brainwash and program you.
just because something has been around for a while doesn't mean it is optimal and non-toxic
How is the Iliad or the Odyssey suboptimal and toxic? Isn't Edmund Dantes essentially a super hero? He's basically an aristocratic 19th century version of Batman. Do you have a problem with the Count of Monte Cristo too?
People like stories. Many of these myths and stories are inspirational allegories.
Watching TV and film in general is bad as it makes you sit on your ass instead of doing things. That does not mean there is anything inherently wrong with stories of powerful idealized men overcoming obstacles and crushing their enemies.
the time period you reference was also civilized/agricultural and had plenty of effete men
I mentioned cavemen times, with cavemen drawing pictures of their successful hunts against mammoth and tigers on cave walls. These are comics. I'd like to see you tell a caveman that he was "effete".
Did they say they were inspired by the stories of Hercules or by the strategy of Hannibal? I grew up on comics and fantasy too, but when I started developing my physical self my desire for fantasy tanked hard.
The stories of the greek gods inspired Plato, Pythagoras, Socrates and many of the Rennaisance's greatest artist and writers and architects. Fantasy as pure empty escapism is not good but fantasy as a way to communicate allegory and metaphor is something that is incredibly useful and beneficial.
the stories of Hercules or by the strategy of Hannibal
It's not an either-or question. You can be inspired by both and gain from both. Also Hannibal got his ass kicked on his home turf by Scipio Africanus. Choose better real world role models.
[–]MrCongeniality1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Comics can present an inspirational and fantastic story, but they are also porn sold to boys to delude themselves.
This was the first thing I said. I don't know who you are arguing with.
[–]Prison4SideofBeef 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm arguing with the guy who continually dismisses comic books about super heroes as useless. Humanity has always told stories about powerful idealized men overcoming great obstacles and crushing their enemies. You probably idolize Hannibal for example because he was a great leader who overcame great obstacles and for a time crushed his enemies before Scipio Africanus kicked his ass at Zama. You idolizing ancient stories of Hannibal is hardly any different than a fanboy idolizing Indiana Jones. This kind of story has appealed to human nature all over the world, across recorded history. Gilgamesh, Horus, Achilles, Odysseus, Sinbad, Hercules, Edmund Dantes, Jean Valjean and Batman are all examples of "super heroes."
It seems like you are upset about the medium these stories are currently being told in. What you're saying doesn't make much sense.
All TV and movies are bad in the same way super hero movies are. Subconsciously our brain registers what we see on screen and makes us think we personally experienced it. It's easier to sit on your ass for 9 hours watching Lord of the Rings than it is to go on a 300 mile hike across New Zealand, sure. That doesn't mean that the story told in those movies does not inspire or benefit people.
[–]MrCongeniality1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Stories of things men have really done, and have a progression and historical context that can be learned from, are very different from highly fantastic stories of demi-gods and mutants.
I believe the more a man develops his masculine power and physical life, the less he will be interested in high fantasy.
I am not suggesting that it is all black/white, good/back, like/dislike.
I am suggesting that there is a relationship between the consumption of fantasy and the degree a man is living a masculine life. I hope it is useful for other men to recognize that heavy consumption of masculine fantasy may be a bandaid.
I don't have data to argue this point. So if you disagree, that's fine with me.
[–]Prison4SideofBeef 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
You lack imagination. As Napoleon said:
"Imagination is the most marvelous, miraculous, inconceivably, powerful force the world has ever known."
and
"Imagination rules the world"
Are you trying to claim that we cannot learn anything from the fictional stories the Iliad or the Odyssey or the Count of Monte Cristo or Daredevil: Born Again?
I believe the more a man develops his masculine power and physical life, the less he will be interested in the high fantasy.
That's because you're very close-minded and don't have a firm grasp of our history. Alexander the Great believed he was descended from Zeus and Hercules. This inspired him to attempt to conquer the world. While Alexander was out conquering, he had zero doubt in his mind because he believed that he was descended from the warrior hero Hercules and fictional divinity and that he was protected by the Gods. Just one example of thousands I can cite for you about the power of imagination and stories.
You fail to understand the power of allegory and metaphor.
I am suggesting that there is a relationship between the consumption of fantasy and the degree a man is living a masculine life. I hope it is useful for other men to recognize that heavy consumption of masculine fantasy may be a bandaid. I hope it is useful for other men to recognize that heavy consumption of masculine fantasy may be a bandaid.
I hope it is useful for other men to recognize that heavy consumption of masculine fantasy may be a bandaid.
Everything can be used as a band aid if you abuse it and over consume it. That doesn't mean you should dismiss fictional fantasy stories because you don't understand them.
Many claim that the bible itself is fiction. Many claim the Koran is fantasy and fiction. These religious texts can easily be classified as fantasy stories. Jesus is essentially a super hero and his story has inspired the greatest minds in the western world to create art and architecture and make scientific discoveries. The bible has inspired wars and the greatest works of art and literature and architecture in Western civilization. The stories in the bible influenced the development and legislature of Western civilization in the past and still influence our laws and morals today. The fantasy stories in the bible are timeless morals and allegories everyone from all walks of life can understand. Only a complete fool would choose to dismiss fantasy stories like the Epic of Gilgamesh, or the Aenied, or the Bible as "band aids".
Comic books and American super heroes are our modern version of the stories of the greek gods that inspired the greatest minds and leaders in ancient Greece, like Alexander, Leonidas and Plato. The ancient egyptian's belief in their mythology inspired them to make incredible discoveries in math and astronomy, and build monumental stone structures that still stands today.
I say this as someone who doesn't particularly enjoy modern super hero comics, though I do think the stuff drawn by Jack Kirby is still genius.
You keep living your life in ignorance, I feel no need to stop you.
[–]MrCongeniality1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I imagine we could do this all day because you have a lot of "arguments" to throw out, but they are not exactly thoughtful ones:
Alexander the Great believed he was descended from Zeus and Hercules. This inspired him to attempt to conquer the world.
Alexander's time coincided with the Egyptian empire, where the rulers justified their position by deifying themselves. You don't know what Alexander believed any more than I do, nor whether his claim of deity status was more than PR. Like many of your arguments, this one should have been easy to consider for yourself. The quality of your arguments does not lead me to believe that you are actually discussing in "good faith."
Most of your responses have also been straw-man arguments. I have not made any sweeping dismissals as you have claimed. I pointed out a problematic element of modern comic stories (unearned status) and suggested that the amount of fantasy one consumes might be a sign of something. Points that you seem to have mostly agreed with.
I'm bowing out now. Have a great day.
[–]Prison4SideofBeef 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You just keep making excuses and arguing semantics. Are you going to deny the Bible's (a fantasy story) and the Koran's (a fantasy story) influence on the development of civilization and politics? Why are our laws and morals based on a fantasy book written over 2000 years ago? I thought fantasy had zero influence and benefit on the real world.
You are resorting to ad hominem attacks and whining about "good faith" because you cannot counter my points.
You don't know what Alexander believed any more than I do, nor whether his claim of deity status was more than PR.
Aristotle wrote about it. You're simply dismissing all ideas that are inconvenient to the narrative you're promoting. This is what is known as arguing in bad faith.
The Crusades were fought because of two fantasy books. The west tried to retake Jerusalem because of what was written in a 1400+ year old fantasy book. Fiction and fantasy lead to real life actions. Our morals and legistlature in the west are based on a thousands of years old fantasy book.
Adios.
[–]Vikingcel 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Also Hannibal got his ass kicked on his home turf by Scipio Africanus. Choose better real world role models.
That does not detract from his genius. Taking a huge detour to eventually cross the alps with an army of several ethnicities who did not speak a common language... The absolute madman.
You're right, he did pretty good there lol. At the end of the day, he's just a guy who did some cool stuff, but wound up losing the most important battle of his life that lead to the conquest of his homeland. I prefer looking up to true winners like Ghengis Khan and Subotai, or Scipio Africanus and Khalid ibn al-Walid who both never lost a battle.
[–]ManguZa 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I just saw Iron man 3... where the final fight is won in extremis by the woman who did nothing during all the movie. And where Tony Stark finish by saying that he'll give up super hero stuff.
[–]EqualitysA2WayStreet 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He realised that, and he took the next available flight off the planet.
[–]tempolaca 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I said and I'll say again: The God of war is the most ridicule masculine game imaginable, specially the later incarnations where masculinity is not only about fucking girls and angrily killing things (there's a lot of that), but you also play a father. And they play with the contrast of lesser "dwarfs" and elves, that look extremely effeminate next to Kratos.
[–]Tripletag 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Women aren't pissed because they haven't gotten equal representation in comics, because there are in truth plenty of female superheroes with their own comic books and rich backstory. They just want to insert themselves into the stories of the male superheroes because they won't be happy until the male icons become the Beta orbiters of the female ones.
In their mind, men have to be just as idolate of characters like Wonderwoman or Ms. Marvel as they are of Superman and Batman, because it allows them to reign over the men in the realm of ideals as well. Comic book/video game feminists are the fucking worst. If only their propensity for tattoos and body mods didn't get my dick so hard I would steer clear of them entirely.
[–]Vikingcel 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If only their propensity for tattoos and body mods didn't get my dick so hard I would steer clear of them entirely.
Preach. Chicks with tats, scars and piercings are both extremely revolting and arousing to me.
[–]chrisname 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s called aposematism when toxic animals are brightly coloured. Humans have this strange attraction to toxic substances. We enjoy bitter foods and drinks when bitter is the flavour of poison (alkaloids), we enjoy spicy foods which contain capsaicin, a poison that kills insects. I personally get a small adrenaline rush from these things. Anyway that’s probably why you’re into these alt girls. I like that look as well, when the girl is actually pretty. Facial piercings and brightly coloured hair get my dick hard.
[–]Vikingcel 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The chick being pretty is always a prerequisite, yeah.
I have once tasted a 1kk+ scoville pepper. My face was on fire and I was crying for almost half an hour. I want to try again sometime, maybe something even hotter. I see crazy chicks the same way.
[–]chrisname 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IME alt girls are mainly ultrafeminist bitches though. Probably because the alt scene is dominated by thirsty men who give even the ugliest girls tons of attention and let them get away with whatever.
Never been to a spice fest although there is an annual one in a nearby town. Should give that a go. I tend to be better than most people at eating spicy things but probably nothing compared to people who go to those festivals, or come from countries like India.
[–]AllahHatesFags 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's interesting because Marvel comics nowadays is so cucked that the traditional superheroes are getting either torn down or replaced:
These are just off the top of my head. It's gotten so bad that many of the comic book writers have left to form their own comic book company and of course they were called bigots for doing so.
[–]WarViper1337 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't forget the abomination that is America Chavez and Captain Marvel. Made me want to puke after I watched a review of those lol.
[–]Prison4SideofBeef 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Super heroes are not a new phenomenon, in ancient Greece stories of the Greek Gods were essentially the same shit as super hero comics. Every culture in history had stories of their own 'super heroes' like Gilgamesh, Hercules and Thor.
[–]NormalAndy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nietzschian superman is a worthy role model.
Most of these Marvel types seem to reply on some kind of magic pill or single event that gave them their super powers. There's already too many who think that a magic pill is the answer.
These kinds of superheros are likely the new 'Prince Charming' type of meme.
The only pill that helps with becoming a superhero seems to be the red one...
True.
A hero who conquers unimaginable odds because he slurped some extraterrestrial magic semen or whatever is nothing. Now Sisyphus, who has to face literally impossible odds for all eternity and yet does not despair is a real hero in my opinion.
[–]NormalAndy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sisyphus is definitely one of my heroes. I love the book that Albert Camus wrote about the myth. It's one of my favourites.
[–]Autoslamtronic 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They also inspire learned helplessness. Superheroes represent a kind of other, an elite with powers beyond you. Humankind, in these stories, are little more than chattel that some protect and others exploit, but they cannot do. Only those chosen, by circumstance or otherwise, to receive powers can do.
The rest of humanity are bystanders, victims, etc. I don't think it's an altogether helpful fantasy unless the story includes the becoming phase, and most superheroes don't do that.
[–]tempolaca 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Humankind, in these stories, are little more than chattel that some protect and others exploit, but they cannot do.
Batman and Ironman, the top super-heroes of DC and Marvel, are not only just human, but very flawed. Batman is a crazy traumatized men, and ironman is a drunkard.
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