Curious and not trying to sound like a dick, are most of you guys here not sexually active by choice?

intentionally_vague · 2017-11-27T04:05:30+00:00

The overarching mantra here is that women aren't worth the effort of pursuit. They're unproductive, which makes you unproductive when chasing them. Most of us have had times when sluts approach, and we've sent them away. I don't know it all of our users have the discipline to ignore a primal call, but it seems like most of them do.

I haven't found a solution to avoiding the inner desire for sex. I've just contented myself with focusing on other things; and creating reminders of consequence and biological processes. Sex is not a clean thing whatsoever.

801735 · 2017-11-27T03:34:59+00:00

meh I do an occasional hook up. there are lots of women that just want to blow off some steam with a random dude. I have no problem being that random dude. I'm fortunate enough to be tall so I'm sure that helps. it doesn't take a lot of effort to bang single moms.

Sol_Install · 2017-11-27T08:09:20+00:00

At first I went around 10 years without sex. Then I got laid again. She was a coworker who was married. This was shortly after I was Red Pilled. At the time, I was in a dark place. I hated humanity and saw things like relationships and marriage as being full of shit. That all people cared about was getting money and babies. This chick at some point after that revealed she was pregnant. She even joked to me saying that "Once she was done, I wouldn't have enough money to pay for gas. She had fucked her husband raw. She took off the condom when we had sex. I never ejaculated but I am aware that a woman can get pregnant from pre cum.

After that shit ended, it confirmed the Red Pill teachings for me. That since I was average in looks and didn't make much money that women would blow me off. That the only time they would take an interest in me was to see me as an easy target to exploit. I foolishly revealed that I was not paying rent by my parents and I tend to work overtime basically every week. That was when she took an interest in me.

She confirmed things such as how women don't care for your financial situation/debts and only care for you spending money on them. Or even if you just had to deal with a serious situation(I had to drop 500 bucks to get my car fixed and the next day she wanted to eat out and wanted me to pay for it.)

After that, against my better knowledge, I got with a single mother. Yes, she was good in bed. Attractive and had a plump big ass. She confirmed the shit I learned. Debts up the ass, expected me to pay for it. Expected me to basically have money at the ready for anything she wanted at anytime. For instance, she wanted to get rid of her car but needed 1000G to do it. She obviously didn't have it and neither did I. She then blew up in my face telling me how we're not a team/how she can't depend on me/how I'm selfish/how she'll be crazy to move into an apartment with me. This was after I already helped pay for her car note and insurance, helped pay for a trip to a popular theme park and eating out etc, and the place we were staying at. Helping pay for a phone for her mother and a replacement for mine that she broke. She gave me hers and wanted a newer one.

She also shamed me for things that I owned before I even met her. My laptop, home gym, video games, and expected me to spoil her and give her everything that she wanted. She also fucked 3 of her exes even after she knew they cheated on her. The father of her second kid fucked her best friend then did it again. Of course, she only knew my name when she wanted me to help her out(money).

Remember, I was Red Pilled before all of this. So these women were confirming what I had already know. So after that relationship ended up(there was no official "it's over"), she got with a new guy asap. Remember, I had sex with her without even being with her for a week. She threw it at me. So I know how she is and what she does in bed. To see the "she's not your girl, it's only your turn", the "back up guy", how easily I was replaced, it honestly disgusted me. It was a severe blow to my sex drive. To see how a woman can just do that and jumps from dick to dick with your own two eyes is something else. She even bragged about how she used one of her exes for money and never slept with him(more Red Pill confirmation).

That is why I don't have sex. Honestly humanity disgusts me over sex. And people think it's just the people who don't get any or those that are used and that's it. No. Men who are actually desired by women confirm it. Women confirm it. Men have admitted to fucking married women. Fucking women only to find out that she lied about being married/having a boyfriend. I know women have fucked and will fuck men simply because he had a bigger dick. Fuck anytime anywhere. I know of women who cheat simply because they wanted to fuck someone else and didn't give a shit about their boyfriend/husband. Wives who cheat but only show concern when it means that the financial benefits the man provides will end. I know about men who have had girls who they were in the act of sex, get calls from their boyfriends and lie to them while their dick in them. Even the guys who get laid have nothing but horror stories.

That's why I don't have sex. People fucking disgust me. Yeah, I am attracted to women. Yeah, I can't even go a week without seeing a woman I would like to fuck but I can't. I know what is on the other side. I know what I'm up against. And fuck it all.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2017-11-27T04:12:08+00:00

I’ve been in monk mode for a year, so I’m inactive by choice.

For me, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. My divorce left me with all the debt from the relationship, and a considerable CS obligation. It has taken me over 3 years to fully adjust to a position where I can start making forward progress again.

The last woman I was with was a cheap hooker and while the pussy was good, the experience was empty and soulless. I always took my condoms with me because I didn’t want to risk getting spermjacked. There’s always the concern with getting busted in a sting too, which would fuck up my current job.

I’m putting my energy into raising my sons and improving myself. No time, energy, or money for women after that.

davebrain · 2017-11-27T03:32:21+00:00

Sex is for procreation. If you ain't trying to have kids but you're having sex, you're just bowing to a trick invented by nature to trick you into having kids you don't want. That's dumb. And some day your luck's gonna run out. Then comes the child support.

Curthurley · 2017-11-27T04:27:14+00:00

I have sex pretty much daily. My way just doesnt involve getting married, kids, etc. I legit dont know how some of you brothers can go without sex but i respect your ability to do so.

NewWave647 · 2017-11-27T05:27:07+00:00

if the pussy comes easy, hit it. However, don't jump through hoops and disrespect yourself for some buns (like these cucks and white knights)

AhappyMGTOW · 2017-11-27T03:37:04+00:00

Sexually active? No. By choice? Yes, you already answered it, is not worth it.

Wanna know if I still have access to pussy? Yes, kinda. My last ex keeps sending me wassaps from time to time. Not sure about her intentions but I think is fair to say I would have at least a 50% chance with one date. Worth it? Hell! No!

Prostitutes? I don't do them. Thought about it, but I'm afraid of STDs or scams and similar. So not worth it for me either.

Try to find a girl? Not worth it.

Porn? Yes, a ton. Dunno if that counts as sex for you.

Do your own maths. Sometimes it's kinda depressing to think I might not have sex with a woman ever again. Then I think about the inconvenients and I know is the right thing for me to do.

Maybe some pump and dump if she goes straight for me, and STDs checks involved previously. I would take a vasectomy then or something. Dunno.

rippierippo · 2017-11-27T04:07:02+00:00

Remember everything is a habit. Sex is primal instinct and hard-wired very strong manner. This can be unlearned and controlled and brought into will power. If you have total control over your mind, you will not seek s..x. You will do s..x when you need it and forget about it other times. If your mind is under control, it will not bring imagination of sexual activity and crave it. Or try to manage it other ways. Use that sexual energy for productive purposes for improvement of your health and wealth and well-being.

Yes..nowadays it has become a huge drama to see women and s..x. For few minutes of glory, ask whether it is worth the effort. But if it comes to you from women herself without much effort on your part, accept and enjoy without craving it again. Forget about it after. But do not make s..x your goal and keep hitting all women which is honestly totally waste of time and effort. Or you can keep sex-mate where you understand each other that it is purely for enjoyment with no commitment and bs. There are lot of options.

Once sexual craving dies, your mind is really peaceful and contented. You will really start living new kind of life where peace and harmony will prevail always. The most dangerous time for a man is his teenager years and until 30. If he can survive these years with study and discipline on good career, he can become wealthy and he can relax afterward on that wealth enjoying and relaxing. The teenager year and whole 20s is dangerous time because there are lot of distractions for men and there is no one to guide you on right path. You might get distracted by many women and pursue them and waste your time. Once sexual craving dies, you will regret it later and how stupid you were. So it is best to educate many men about the virtue of MGTOW and living discipline life that brings joy and happiness and wealth.

MadPreacher1AD · 2017-11-27T07:43:08+00:00

I'm 48 and not sexually active by choice. The last woman I slept with had a vagina so gaping that I had to tie a 2x6 to my butt and that was connected to a semi tow truck to keep from being sucked in.

Looking back, I could have spent that time pursuing that 10 second pleasure on something more worthwhile like improving myself or working harder.

2017-11-27T03:22:45+00:00

Lots of mgtows still have sex. Some dudes will say theyre not real mgtows. I don't much worry about labels and what other people think.

Lots of mgtows can have sex but choose not to. I couldn't imagine doing it in even my late 20s, but late 30s = no problem.

I have no problem with prostitution, but I prefer high-end pussy and I am currently funneling every penny into my business. I hope to retire by 40, at which time I will probably start using crazy high-end escorts, or I may not even care at all anymore.

Setari · 2017-11-27T04:14:08+00:00

By choice.

Don't want STDs, don't want to get a condom with holes poked in it when I'm not looking, don't want kids, don't want a girlfriend anymore or even a fuckbuddy who is looking to just fuck guys over for the fun of it, don't wanna get robbed or something stupid like that.

Too much drama, too much money, too much fucking everything. Fapping/fleshlights/sex dolls/sex robots is the way to go for sexual needs and even then I get frustrated that I have a "need to fap" sometimes, I just do it like once a week if that. I feel like it's a waste of time but having that "nagging feeling" there is annoying so I just do it to get rid of it.

Edit: Plan on getting a vasectomy as soon as I'm able to afford it.

2017-11-27T05:18:02+00:00

Pussy is a drug. I had a lot of fun, spent a lot of money, and wasted a lot of time chasing it, using it, and losing it (over about 20 years of my life). Now I am old enough to realize what a hassle it is AND what it truly costs. I have no plans to get laid anytime soon, and for now it doesn't seem like a big deal if I never did again.

Tyrone-Chaddingston · 2017-11-27T05:29:51+00:00

There are SO many things for enjoyable, easier to get, longer lasting, and less risky than sex. If you stop thinking about sex for 10 seconds, those things become crystal clear

2017-11-27T05:37:43+00:00

If a woman pursues me, and she is not batshit insane, then I have been known to get the old leg over.

However, chasing tail? Fuck that shit, not worth it. Much rather go for a nice relaxing oil massage... wink wink.

HeForeverBleeds · 2017-11-27T05:40:34+00:00

I haven't had sex with a woman in seven years, and I don't miss it. Back when I was having sex, all of my sexual experiences ranged from terrible to just okay, and only one of the females was even just okay. Basically, it wasn't worth the risk or the time for me, so I stopped

shit-zen-giggles · 2017-11-27T05:41:29+00:00

No sex by choice as well.

I had my fair share of wild adventures and dysfunctional relationshits. Since having children is not an option for me (you'd understand, if I bothered to explain), marriage and LTR or similar are of no interest to me.

Recently met a single mother in a social context. After smiling at her once she bothered herself to obtain my phone number from a mutual acquaintance under some made up excuse. Thankfully she got the message after 2 "ah no, on that particular date I've other plans, sorry..."

Funny side note: I was at a gathering with my extended family (uncles, aunts, nephews, nices). We took the obligatory group photo. The aunt taking the photo noted: "you're the only one who smiles genuinely".

A famous song in my mother-tongue goes somewhat along the lines of: "You'll be lonely until you learned to be alone" (the beauty of the expression is lost in translation, sadly)

Hedmaneten · 2017-11-27T05:56:28+00:00

Well, guy in my early twenties here as well. Had a long term gf once, it got old quite fast even though she was a great girl, ended up having a sort of messy breakup and after that i went on a two year rampage trying to have sex with as many girls as possible and had moderate success but the lays where mediocre most of the time with little chemistry.

Now im just extremely disillusioned with playing the field or searching for a gf and ive realized i cant be bothered anymore. Finding mgtow during my std hunting balooza and being redpilled when it comes to politics and feminism with a new found interest for anti-degenerate values has made me practically asexual at this point.

2017-11-27T10:09:59+00:00

Rarely are women fun to be around.. Makes no sense to get married to just fit in.. I prefer having some quality time with a woman once a week, rather then having a woman bitch on me everyday. No thanks. I Even was this way before discovering mgtow, now i Just dont question my behavoir anymore.

JuicyPezz · 2017-11-27T05:54:14+00:00

I think it's healthy to embrace your sexual desire. Mgtow to me is a way of life and I have experienced different stages of mgtow the more I live it. Some men it's healthy to avoid sexual encounters, some may prefer paying for sexual activities, some may have a girlfriend and be aware of mgtow (redpill) and the underlying female persona. Mgtow for me is about a healthy balanced way of life that fits my personal values wants and needs. There's going to be times in your life when you fall head over heels for a girl and I still think that's a healthy thing for a man to express his love as long as your woken to the female hidden agendas and takes full responsibility for his actions. Im in my early thirties and the relationships I've had with women have all taught me valuable lessons about myself and also brought about positive and negative experiences. Like Bruce Lee says. Become the water. Flow with life and flow with the mgtow philophies that you think are true to you at the time you are in now.

YoichiLD · 2017-11-27T08:38:41+00:00

I work on my career and fuck the girls who allow me to get away with minimal effort. Any of them with any sense of entitlement aren’t worth the effort.

I just always put myself over them and it usually works out okay.

38SPL · 2017-11-27T12:54:43+00:00

I don't chase pussy, but have casual sex when the opportunity presents itself. My last two FWBs just sorta happened and didn't require any effort on my part.

2017-11-27T13:33:34+00:00

Monk for this guy. I spent 16 years in relationships and had tons of sex. Was fun but not worth the drama.

Traphead09 · 2017-11-27T06:13:37+00:00

We have a similar story I just shared mine and was also wondering where every one lands on sex lol .

CynicalSoup · 2017-11-27T06:23:29+00:00

I turned a 7/10 down the other day.

Dont ask me for sex in a liquor store.

Edit: Dont ask me for sex ANYWHERE.

Sumo94 · 2017-11-27T06:57:32+00:00

I learned to not chase pussy anymore. If the opportunity comes then why not but until then I don’t even try to get sex.

The only good sex I had was the first ever time I did it. To me it seems like she enjoys sex more than me. Why would I waste my time trying to pleasure her when I can do it myself.

MaestroLogical · 2017-11-27T07:35:09+00:00

I have 2 fwb and rotate in others as desired. My way just includes lots of freaky deaky.

Vasectomy for the win!

eja_cool8 · 2017-11-27T07:40:55+00:00

I haven't been out "chasing" for 4 years. Last week I was at a conference on a table full of women and I found it stressful.

otakuiq · 2017-11-27T08:10:49+00:00

I am just here because I agree with some of the mgtow ideas, I am still in a relationship, I am perfectly controlling the relationship and her to some extent (still giving her freedom) by using female logic against that chick and putting her in her place uf she does something that is wrong, is wrong about something or bad mouths me in the public.

2017-11-27T09:31:05+00:00

Sort of by choice, I had a girlfriend up until about a year ago that was pussy on tap but sex was literally all she cared about from me. She was an emotionally abusive cunt that was more into getting high than talking to me. I dumped her when I realized it wasn't worth the hassle, and I've slept with 3 different women since then and stopped talking to them as well but I could very easily be getting laid right now if it was all I cared about.

Basically I decided that I'm worth more than the amount of effort any of the women I've been with were willing to put in. If being myself means being celibate then so be it, as much as I enjoy sex it isn't worth being objectified and treated as an afterthought.

Pellaeon_redpill · 2017-11-27T10:16:49+00:00

I am curious and I'm honestly really not trying to sound like a douche bag but are you guys sexually inactive by choice or do you still have sex?

Assuming people are being honest, there are plenty of guys on here who have sex regularly. To my knowledge, the big unbreakable rules are no marriage and no cohabitation.

As for myself, I had to work harder than any other man I know in order to lose my virginity (3,000 cold approaches over seven years if you only start counting from when I got involved in PUA). After that, I failed to get sex again (though I've had a few close encounters) and I just kept giving up for long periods of time as I'd lost my motivation.

One day I just sort of woke up and realized that I was actually pretty happy for most of my life - I only got depressed when I focused on my lack of dating, and bought into the idea that I should be getting dates. It turns out that I'm fairly happy when I focus my attention on the good things going on in my life rather than obsessing about the things that I want, but don't have. This seems obvious in retrospect, but it took me a long time to figure it out.

Part of that decision is likely due to the fact that I've only ever had bad sex. Fapping to porn is consistently better than the only sex I've ever had. Why put in so much work for something I can get better and easier elsewhere?

I do and I don't long for the day where I just seriously don't give a fuck about sex.

I'm guessing that you're under 30. I'd heard that was the threshold for when it stops being such a big deal, and that turned out to be the case for me.

zezozio · 2017-11-27T12:42:25+00:00

FWB that I keep at arm's length. I could go on a fucking spree, but... don't care about this anymore. This one I kindda know how to "handle", is of limited nuisance. So far so good.

Friends and family tries to make me commit to a GF/wife again. Not interested.

2017-11-27T14:01:13+00:00

I lived with my gf on the other end of the country (west coast USA, am now east coast again) earlier this year and left her because of her alcoholism and abuse. Also, I could read between the lines of the way she talked about her friends and family's relationships: Her long term goal was either to get knocked up and put me in a position as a semi-father paying child support from a distance or as a cuck who stayed at home caring for the kid while she went out and partied in the Bay Area. Naturally, once I finished my college classes up I had no problem leaving her at the drop of a hat. I had put up with so much bullshit because of her, yet she acted like I was the bad guy. Of course.

Her parents were even calling me after I left saying they loved me and was always welcome there regardless of what happened between me and their daughter, but I have a feeling it's just because they saw me as their girl's last chance at a normal, good relationship. I really was, too. Cali isn't exactly sprouting tons of well-mannered normal dudes with realistic goal, good work ethic, and tons of veterans benefits. But I don't think her parents understood how fucked up her true nature was. I couldn't have possibly stayed with her in my right mind, and if I'd understood what an alcoholic she was from the get-go I may have never even began the relationship with her.

Since then I do not bother with even approaching relationships. I walk my dog, sometimes women will engage me, I'll be friendly and keep walking with a "Have a good one." or whatever. My responsibilities are my dog, my schooling, and keeping off my old bad habits. I've never had anything from a relationship follow me afterwards except the lessons I learned... But I'm 30 and I'm just starting to pull my head out of my ass. I am not going to tempt fate and fuck things up with another relationship. Even casual sex can turn into a nightmare, it hasn't for me in the past but you never know.

BrownMayonnaise · 2017-11-27T14:53:25+00:00

I'm inactive by choice for the last 6 months or so. This will continue, for sure. I decided I needed to finish school and start making some decent money. Couldn't afford the distraction, I tend to overindulge.

I've been out of focus and spent too much time and energy chasing puss for the last decade or so. Which...I got plenty of. It brought me absolutely ZERO...besides some passing pleasure. Looking around the MGTOW community, I'm lucky that all I got was a drain on my time and money. Could've been far worse.

swampboxers · 2017-11-27T16:22:41+00:00

I broke off with a hot girlfriend. We had good sex on a regular basis. Some of her freak things matched up with my freak things. Sex was not the problem. The problem was she was slowly making me into her dream man and I was slowly losing myself. It crept up on me and once I realized what was happening I knew I had to break it off. I miss the sex, but not the relationship.

LetsGoAllTheWhey · 2017-11-27T16:35:02+00:00

Just not worth the effort.

delta9mm · 2017-11-27T19:36:31+00:00

I'm sexually inactive by choice. I act insane IRL by choice too. I dress poor by choice. I act poor by choice.

If I wanted pussy I'd undo everything that I've done. People wouldn't be able to even recognize me in that mode, it'd be like taking off a mask to reveal my true nature.

Lyradex · 2017-11-27T21:19:33+00:00

I crack and pick up some trim every few months. Going longer and longer without though, trying to get away from it entirely. Just occasionally see a hottie that makes me bite my knuckles and my dick jumps into the convo. Then I nut and the stress kicks in. Gotta go get myself tested again because 1/3rd of the cock sockets out there are carrying diseases. Then the pregnancy risk stress. Half of em the night of fucking will tell me they are on birth control then change their story the next morning. I've spent thousands on morning after pills at this point in my life. (mild hyperbole)

As I get older I'm apparently aging well and my looks are actually improving, but my interest in women just continues to dwindle with every dead fish fuck and reeking snatch gunk. Adding into it what consent laws are like now and we're in a whole new ballpark of not worth it.

No man ever got laid asking if he could kiss or touch now, and now if you don't ask that makes it rape if she wants it to be, entirely based on how she feels the morning after, or the week after or even years after. Absolutely not worth the risk really.

And yet I still do take the risk. Is what it is.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2017-11-28T17:19:14+00:00

Yes by choice, I could get laid but the hassle of dealing with women is not worth it. You are young and trust me 90% of your infatuation with women is hormones, before making any decisions regarding women rub one out and see if your attitude changes, that is hormones fucking up your thinking. It does get better with age though.

Title	Curious and not trying to sound like a dick, are most of you guys here not sexually active by choice?
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Date	November 27, 2017 3:14 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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