The facts are harsh

throwaway152038 · 2017-11-02T21:08:10+00:00

I don't know of any good marriage. They might look good until you research deeper.

801735 · 2017-11-02T21:11:08+00:00

"Ok, sell me marriage."

"What do you mean, 'What do you mean?'?!?!?! Make. Me. Buy. Marriage. Go!"

(cricket sounds)

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2017-11-02T21:31:50+00:00

It is weird, alltough I know this is out there, and I've seen it in couples (you realize that the guy is providing so much more just to feel like he is a good man, and the woman is just taking and taking), most marriages I know seem quite allright. Ofcourse you cannot look behind the curtains so to speak, but I believe that with regards to my parents and other family members everybody is doing allright in their marriage, and there is not so much manipulation or cheating going on (mabye just lucky). This makes it sometimes hard for me to believe the horrible stories told on this forum, but with regard to modern society I do believe them.

Anyway, I had the same feeling as OP, I did want to get married and give everything and all for a girl, the idea of true love was very real to me, however this seems more and more like a fairytale. However I might be true, but marriage is just a very stupid contract to sign as a male, so I will not get married period.

Sol_Install · 2017-11-03T01:45:37+00:00

Women marry good honest hardworking men. They're not attracted to these men. They simply want their resources. The entire relationship is to acquire those resources. These guys got screwed badly. You got posts about men who were about to retire only for the woman to divorce and clean him out forcing him to work until he dies.

This is disgusting. And you can see how men and women push marriage(I need someone to take care of my daughter) that they see nothing wrong with this. That's what shook me the most. Is that we see how women have no issue doing this and how men are shamed for not spending money on women. Keep that in your mind. That is the facts. That this is what people want.

Helikzhan · 2017-11-03T00:49:59+00:00

Most married couples put on a good front when in truth they despise one another. It's all an act. Just like it was 50 years ago.

You'll know the truth as a single man from your married friends. They ALL bitch about their marriages.

ratel1488 · 2017-11-02T21:48:53+00:00

The ideal of having a loving, caring, trustworthy, virgin wife has been attained by some in the past. But these days, with the strong influence modern society has over women combined with so called sexual liberation, finding a good, traditional girl among the brigades of sluts and feminists is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

And thus the seemingly endless quest for a unicorn continues

Supersonic_staples · 2017-11-03T01:39:05+00:00

Marriage was designed for when you married at 16 - 18 years old, and died at 35. So, what, 17 total years. About what it took for you to raise kids to get married and do the same.

Today, we marry at 30 and hope it lasts till death at, what, 75? That's 45 years together. That's fucking insane.

Belrick_NZ · 2017-11-03T01:51:50+00:00

The divorce rate is roughly 50% for first-time marriages, and worse for any marriage after the first, and this is considering divorce is often a last resort. Think of all the shitty marriages where they didn't divorce for fear of stigma, finances, convenience, whathaveyou. No divorce does not mean good marriage.

I'm willing to concede that perhaps marriage is something people of a certain temperament are better equipped for but as far as I'm concerned it sounds like hell even when there is absolutely nothing wrong and things are going "well".

Onkel_Adolf · 2017-11-03T02:09:22+00:00

Good marriages (and women) ended in the late-mid 60s. Hippies destroyed stable society, and normalized cultural Marxism.

bearbait60 · 2017-11-02T21:11:39+00:00

True dat

cococrispys · 2017-11-03T02:50:50+00:00

My parents conduct themselves as if their marriage is great when in reality they have lots of problems.

In fact my dad's friend told my dad he wished he had a wife like he does (my mom). He doesn't understand what's behind the curtain...

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2017-11-02T21:29:39+00:00

It is weird, alltough I know this is out there, and I've seen it in couples (you realize that the guy is providing so much more just to feel like he is a good man, and the woman is just taking and taking), most marriages I know seem quite allright. Ofcourse you cannot look behind the curtains so to speak, but I believe that with regards to my parents and other family members everybody is doing allright in their marriage, and there is not so much manipulation or cheating going on (mabye just lucky). This makes it sometimes hard for me to believe the horrible stories told on this forum, but with regard to modern society I do believe them.

Anyway, I had the same feeling as OP, I did want to get married and give everything and all for a girl, the idea of true love was very real to me, however this seems more and more like a fairytale. However I might be true, but marriage is just a very stupid contract to sign as a male, so I will not get married period.

omega_dawg93 · 2017-11-03T03:36:49+00:00

most of my married friends say they would NEVER, EVER marry again... it's just not worth it.

those friends are female.

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2017-11-02T21:28:54+00:00

It is weird, alltough I know this is out there, and I've seen it in couples (you realize that the guy is providing so much more just to feel like he is a good man, and the woman is just taking and taking), most marriages I know seem quite allright. Ofcourse you cannot look behind the curtains so to speak, but I believe that with regards to my parents and other family members everybody is doing allright in their marriage, and there is not so much manipulation or cheating going on (mabye just lucky). This makes it sometimes hard for me to believe the horrible stories told on this forum, but with regard to modern society I do believe them.

Anyway, I had the same feeling as OP, I did want to get married and give everything and all for a girl, the idea of true love was very real to me, however this seems more and more like a fairytale. However I might be true, but marriage is just a very stupid contract to sign as a male, so I will not get married period.

IncelKilledTheCat · 2017-11-03T08:41:14+00:00

The history of marriage is a bit fucked anyway. No need to et married- just find someone that feels the same way you do about it.

CanadaCurt · 2017-11-03T12:48:08+00:00

My brother’s marriage is pretty good, and I know but because we’ve lived together a few times while I was transitioning properties. BUT, they got together as kids. She was a virgin. And he rules the house with an iron fist.

Atrand · 2017-11-03T13:29:10+00:00

an old guy comes into my restaurant, he's been married for 50 years. he tells me sometimes "you know what a good marriage is? you doing everything the woman wants....and you do anything for her to keep her happy, because that moment you don't do everything? she's never happy"

He's really old now and probably won't even bother divorcing or shit like that. But he says stuff like that sometimes like "true freedom my friends...is living alone until you expire" but he does love his wife...I just think sometimes he has the thoughts of "what if...i decided to stay single"

and yes, marriage is a scam

csehszlovakze · 2017-11-03T07:58:15+00:00

I don't wanna get involved but they will probably try to drag me back in the mud.

offend them so hard so they'll never want to talk to you again... that worked against my sister anyway

Title	The facts are harsh
Author	WhyNotThrowMe
Upvotes	150
Comments	70
Date	November 2, 2017 9:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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