Long story. Really need some hardline perspective on GF cheating.

LumpyPUA · 2013-07-18T13:24:44+00:00

This is fucked. Dump her.

This pain is unfair.

Fairness has nothing to do with it. Welcome to the red pill.

Took me 6-8 mos to get over being cheated on and dumped, but I did.

Stayinghereforreal · 2013-07-18T16:23:48+00:00

She is showering her body and shaving it, for him. She is arranging times to take off her clothing and take off his, so they can then have sex. She has purchased new underwear and worn it, especially for him. She thinks about him when she is with you, and he excites her more.

She has sex with him, and then lies to you about where she has been. She had done things with him she never did with you. They share a laugh about their S/O after they are done with sex, and talk about having to get back to their clueless S/Os.

How do I know all that? Because in the past, I was that other guy she is with. Believe me, her betrayal is so, so much worse than you know.

You need to go Nuclear Fucking Winter on her, in order to save your self-respect. All her shit in a box, out at the curb. Text her, "Your shit on curb. Go stay at his place, cheater." Then you go total no contact. Ever.

Then call up his girlfriend and tell her everything. Tell the girlfriend you thought she should know, so she can get tested for STDs, like you are going to get tested.

Tell anyone who knows both of you what happened and why you dumped her. Say it with a sneer as you talk about it, no quivering chin, no sadness. Because believe me, she will tell everyone some bullshit story about you being crazy or pathetic and such.

Finally, here is the really important thing: you need to immediately--immediately--get back into the game and find some action. You will feel a million times better when you have another chick interested in sexing you.

LumpyPUA · 2013-07-18T13:40:04+00:00

I did'nt even finish reading. she's staying late with this guy and having 1 on 1 meetings with him? shes' fucking him 100%. Kick her to the curb, start lifting, eat right, be awesome. also read the book of pook.

Space_Tourist · 2013-07-18T15:03:54+00:00

Here's the most important and hardest thing: Do NOT attempt rational debate, explanation or justification. Most women are very very good at turning arguments around and evoking sympathy and guilt; if you talk for long enough, you will very likely end up apologizing to her and asking her forgiveness for your unfair, paranoid reaction to her innocent and harmless behavior.

Make your point; stick to it; DO NOT ENGAGE in discussion over why. You know what's up; she knows what's up; you have nothing to gain and everything to lose by "talking it out".

fuk_offe · 2013-07-18T17:07:36+00:00

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SnakeInTheAss · 2013-07-18T13:47:18+00:00

Dump her.

You seem concerned about bridging the topic of 'why' and how to explain it. She knows why already, because she's been the one sending the messages.

You don't have to do shit, except say 'get out'. If she asks why, say 'you know why' and leave it at that.

Let her deal with her own pussy problem. You should just be bummed that you invested all that time without getting to hit it.

DaddyMonster · 2013-07-18T14:35:34+00:00

Dump. Tell her that you know of her breach of fidelity and that it is unacceptable to you. If she tries to hamster you, just say that she fucked up and that she has no right to complain about anything any more due to that. If she continues to hamster, just stay the course and say that she fucked up and that there is nothing more to say.

No further justification is needed. Do not validate anything she says which attempts to place the blame on you. Do not react to any emotional outbursts or emotional blackmail or whatever. "You fucked up. It is over, and that's the end of it."

iKill_eu · 2013-07-18T14:47:07+00:00

Kick her out.

Baseburn · 2013-07-18T16:39:48+00:00

You did the right thing not confronting her because that will be a torrent of emotion which will just make you look weak to her. Dump her, go no contact and apply the male action plan. You'll be better off.

Unfortunately, it sounds like you're living together which means a lot of bad things can happen.

Take screenshots of the texts, get a place to crash and send her the following email:

To: Her
Subject: It's over
Attachments: text1.jpg, text2.jpg, text3.jpg

Good luck to you. I will be coming by to pick up my stuff on date <Y>.

Next, call the police and have them escort you when you go to pick up your stuff because you are afraid she will do something stupid. Either that or take a friend and record the whole thing. Do not talk with her at all. She will be crying and may even get violent. Remind her that your friend is recording.

The pain sucks, but you will get over it, I promise.

Edit: if you have pets, get them out first. An angry woman WILL hurt your animals and anyone you care about.

troubadour1492 · 2013-07-18T21:43:18+00:00

Living with her TWO YEARS and she's still a VIRGIN?!

All that crap about being "too tight" is her way of saying "I'm living with you for security/comfort/convenience, but I find you repulsive and don't want to have to go through with having sex with you."

You're not having sex, so there IS no relationship here.

Plus odds are she's not really a virgin, and that coworker is banging her. You need to RUN, not walk away from this train wreck whether you eject or you hit the button and eject her.

I can smell the reek of your desperation all the way from here, and I can see the big L emblazoned on your forehead. So can she. That's why she's using you dude.

The good news is desperation is easy to cure by getting your head out of your ass and growing a pair of balls. The red pill can definitely help if you let it!

the_letter_P · 2013-07-18T16:57:37+00:00

If you do get into a discussion with her about it (which you should avoid), she will try and convince you that it was just "innocent flirting" and nothing happened. they were just texts.

We could go on and debate all day on if she is fucking him or not, but remember that is completely IRRELEVANT. the texts purely by themselves are good enough reason for dumping.

Texting another man that sort of stuff is a massive form of treachery and backstabbery. If they fucked or not doesn't matter (although you definitely know they kissed which is again good enough reason to end it, so I'd assume more happened) You need to remember that in the eyes of this other man, she has completely disrespected you to him and anyone else she knows. this is a non-verbal way of communicating that his value is higher than yours. through her, HE has dominated YOU. It is like a man forcefully taking your property.

Any girl you are in a long term relationship with should show you nothing but respect and reverence. This means talking with other people about you, and showing nothing but loyalty to you.

Think of it as a medieval royalty. Anyone who was caught bad-mouthing the king would be hung for treachery against the crown. With her flirting with another man (and god knows what else) she is doing the same and must be punished.

The pain is unfair, but do you know what would make it even more unfair? If you kept with her. If you truly want to make things FAIR, then she needs to be punished for her disloyalty. That means dropping her and getting on with your life. Only then will the pain be 'fair'.

2013-07-18T17:28:35+00:00

She wants to move out so she can ride new dick guilt free. Dump her immediately. You can't save this one.

chip_chop_chip · 2013-07-18T19:07:07+00:00

Make a commitment to dump her swiftly and with respect. Don't lose your temper. Leaver her and never look back. You deserve no less

PimpinLarge · 2013-07-19T03:27:39+00:00

First, shit sucks and there's no way around that. Don't tell yourself comforting lies. They only make you stay in a bad situation longer.

By "comforting lies", I mean:

I honestly think that she still loves me and wants to be with me, but enjoys the thrill and the fun of this "side danger".

No. She does not love you. She is a woman, and love is NOT the same to them as it is to you.

You are capable of feeling sublime emotions and caring about someone else more than yourself. She is not. (Except temporarily with a young child, due to bonding hormones, that typically wear off in her brain when the child is around 3 years old. This is the age they start to drown their kids in the tub and drive them into a lake.)

You think that, since she is a human like you, she must feel things like you feel things. But she doesn't.

The reality is, she has no clue and no plan. She is just going moment-by-moment, like a dog with an iPhone.

This is not her fault; women need a man with a plan. They need a train that is going someplace with or without them. Once on a train, they can make it fun and party things up, but they won't get a train going from a dead stop, and they sure as fuck won't engineer a train from scratch.

Think of Coyote Ugly. If you own a bar, girls will get drunk and dance on the counter. They will not build the building, apply for a liquor license, or distill spirits. They will look good and they will suck your dick.

Back to the train metaphor, your job is to be a train that is leaving the depot on YOUR schedule with whoever is on board WITH YOU.

And when you get to your stop, you need to be able to kick off everyone that you don't want going to your NEXT stop.

This means no co-habitation.

Never, ever let them move in with you. You didn't know, and guess what? This is a learning experience. Don't forget it.

Always have your own place in your own name.

Always be able to kick someone out.

You can let them sleep over, but remember it's like when your friends slept over and you played video games all weekend. There was never any expectation that your parents were gonna adopt them; they had their own family and their own home. And it was for a couple days at a time, not weeks or months.

Always keep the upper hand. If you can't do something unless the girl is equal to you (like on a lease) or above you, don't do it. Increase your standing, go back, and try again.

Understand human nature: Everyone is trying to exploit you. Even your own family. They have their own ideas about what you should do to suit them.

Your "friends" will exploit you. If you are doing better than them, they will try to mooch off you. If they are doing better than you, they will try to throw you crumbs that show they think you are below them.

You cannot trust anyone that occupies the same competitive strata as you.

Did you ever notice how humans like dogs and cats and vice-versa? It's because they are not competing with each other. Cats that are nice to you will hate other cats. Dogs will cop a 'tude with other dogs.

It works the same in the rainforest -- many species will co-exist and seemingly cooperate, because they occupy different ecological niches: one species in the canopy, another in the trees, another on the forest floor. They eat different things and share warning systems.

You can "trust" a lot of people online in some ways, because they are not in direct competition with you, and everyone is gaining more from cooperation. Being anonymous, nobody can take advantage of knowledge of your weaknesses.

There are very few relationships like that. Sometimes a real best friend, where you both value the other more than money and more than bitches, and are both trying to elevate the other. This happens in nature too, when two brother lions who are young, and not quite as strong individually as a grizzled male who has his own pride, can together take him down and then rule as co-alphas, and then it's almost impossible for any other lion coming along to depose them.

But women don't think of you like that.

When a new lion comes along, and defeats the old lion, he also kills all the cubs who are still suckling, because suckling releases hormones that prevent her from going into heat again too soon (until they are grown up). The females mourn their murdered cubs for a week or two, but once they go into heat, they all submit to the guy who came in and killed their babies, and mate with him, and have his babies.

Females have extremely plastic and transferable emotions. They had to, because they were always getting passed around from dominant male to dominant male with no choice in the matter. (Anyone who was emotionally wrecked by this, unable to function, would not be able to care for her own children and wouldn't pass on her "sensitive" or "loyal" genes.)

You can see this now by how much women respond to sexual dominance, and how women who were "kidnapped" and live in houses in suburbia as sex slaves just stay there and don't bother running away.

They have completely fucked-up psychology compared to your ideal for yourself.

So stop thinking about THEIR FEELINGS.

Women are the closest thing to happy when YOU do the shit YOU want to do, and they get to follow you around like puppies.

betaprime · 2013-07-18T15:27:04+00:00

I'll be blunt: She's probably not a virgin. She lied; she just doesn't want to fuck you. The other dude(s) has probably already banged her six ways from sunday. You've been waiting all this while for nothing.

gobigelow · 2013-07-18T15:43:55+00:00

Almost this exact same scenario happened to me, except I was oblivious to it at the time. You've already lost her. She doesn't respect you and has already made up her mind about what she is going to do. Listen to these other guys, you're going to have to move on.

captshady · 2013-07-18T16:40:12+00:00

It's not enough to red Red Pill stuff, man. You have to live it.

First off, own up that this one is gone. She cheated on you, move on to the next girl. Don't fucking tell her why, it's just flat out over.

Secondly read up on game, and go DO it at the same time. Start from the beginning, actually fucking do it, and this bitch will be nothing but a memory.

HalfysReddit · 2013-07-18T16:43:10+00:00

Dude, what the fuck. You're an eligible bachelor that is letting some chick toy with his head.

Tell her you agree the relationship isn't what it once was, and you think it's time for you both to move on. Do not bring up the other guy. Do not bring up any reasons. If she insists, just say the chemistry isn't there and leave it at that.

leftajar · 2013-07-18T18:06:34+00:00

She said she wanted her own space, wasn't sure about the future of our relationship, but wasn't quite ready to call things off either.

That's where you realize she's got to go. Right then.

Now it's just logistics: when is the lease up? How soon can you start dating other women?

YouDislikeMyOpinion · 2013-07-18T22:04:51+00:00

I've got some great cheating advice in my reddit history. Too bad it's not easy to find through reddits system.

My honest advice will be short and sweet.

Do whatever you want. You're not an idiot. Whatever you feel is the best thing, do that.

There is one exception to this rule: Don't get her pregnant.

-Conflict- · 2013-07-18T16:56:31+00:00

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InterNetting · 2013-07-18T18:11:59+00:00

Wow. Just wow. I really hope you haven't spent a bunch of money on this chick as you've already admitted to wasting an obscene 3 1/2 years on her. This post literally sounds like a woman posting about her man fooling around at the office. Jesus H. Christ my man, you said you're a good looking guy, how can you have such low self-worth that you'd stay with this cheater? Get angry. This post sounds like woe is me, like you're sobbing with a box of tissues while writing it. I think I'm gonna be sick. Light a fire under your ass, man. Get on with your life. Put on your war face!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vHOR8lzTg

Sword11 · 2013-07-18T19:46:07+00:00

Tell her to get out. Don't give her a reason.

This relationship was over when she kissed another man.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-18T20:00:02+00:00

Drop her immediately preferably without explanation. She doesn't deserve one.

You should also take a lot of time to work on yourself. After reading this I can tell you're broken.

Get in the gym, get on a new diet, read at least 2 PUA books (read in general). Turn your life around.

IdleGod · 2013-07-18T22:00:59+00:00

Novel idea, use up all of that anger and hate thats building inside of you to fuck her. And not normal fuck, no, hate fuck the shit outa her. Then throw her ass to the curb. Have all of her shit ready, and just push her out the front door, still naked, along with a box of her shit.

SupALupRT · 2013-07-19T01:32:08+00:00

Heres some advice. Her shit on the front porch with the locks changed. "You're a snoop!" is what cheaters cry out when they're busted being shitheads. If you were snooping all the time it'd be one thing, but one time because you had good reason to be suspicious is a totally different animal. Seriously, do what I say. It will make a great story for the next girl you're banging.

blowlinesfuckdimes · 2013-07-19T04:32:45+00:00

Any updates, OP?

mountainmansOG · 2013-07-19T06:51:53+00:00

take her virginity and dump her.

no matter how wet she gives or orgasms she has, and it won't open enough for entry

absolute. complete. bullshit. I don't care if you're fifteen fuckin inches ACROSS you can get that shit in there. Yea, IT'S GOING TO HURT. Make her deal with it.

I'm telling you this now. If you don't fuck that pristine puswah you will regret it the rest of your natural life!

Usherai · 2013-07-18T14:21:13+00:00

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/how-to-screw-with-a-cheating-whore/

Read this before you confront her. Also, don't confront her.

Tastysalad101 · 2013-07-18T14:00:02+00:00

Dump her and if you really that bothered expose her for what shes done.

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