What experience with women caused you to go MGTOW? How do you interact with women now (if at all)?

DangZagnut · 2019-12-21T21:39:27+00:00

Let me tell you about atheism. I was born an atheist. No God did anything to me. None of God’s followers did anything to me.

When I learned about religion it just seemed stupid to me to follow that logic.

So I’m not religious. I don’t burn down churches. I don’t petition to get them removed from my zip code, they’re just not that important to me.

If people want to go sit in a building and read a magic book, pay 10%, and believe it, that’s their business. If they stay off my property I’m good.

-Governator · 2019-12-21T21:48:49+00:00

No particular experience comes to my mind?

What caused me to go MGTOW was trying to understand the behaviour of women around me. That lead me to red pill, and problems with red pill lead to MGTOW.

MGTOW made me a lot more aware of what I could expect of women and government... and I'm very grateful for this. I am much more prepared for various traps in life, and if I get fucked, at least I won't be the one saying "I don't understand why this happened..."

As for interactions, I treat women as children, as simple as that. And I don't mean MY children, I mean random kids who try to do things that they can't and cry when they fail. Also they need candy, money, gifts... and are not responsible enough to take care of their needs.

poopiedoodie710 · 2019-12-21T21:41:01+00:00

All of them
I don't

PanderjitSingh_k · 2019-12-21T22:11:26+00:00

Death of my wife.

It shocked my sex drive completely out if existence for 8 months or so and even now it’s back I can’t imagine exposing my self to the day to day suffering of a relationship.

I still interact routinely with female family and non sexual friends.

Hankraham · 2019-12-21T21:40:25+00:00

My mother who is on her sixth marriage and my first and last wife.

My mother has divorced or cheated on every husband within 5 years of marriage. Husband number six is on year 6 of marriage so I’ve get a good hunch of what’s going on.

Me ex wife was an angel until we got married. She then spent as much as she could, then when that ran out cheated with anyone she could. She also refused to work and was inconsistently abusive. She tried getting alimony during the divorce, didn’t seem to understand that doesn’t work when the marriage was under a year an I’m broke.

No kids, no girlfriend and no substance abuse problems. Happily going my own way.

DasSeran · 2019-12-21T21:59:07+00:00

When I started studying Evolutionary Psychology and intergender dynamics. I'm generally deadpanned and apathetic when I do have to interact with them. It makes them think something is wrong with them.

MiddleAgedMGTOW · 2019-12-21T22:19:35+00:00

2 failed marriages
Civil and professional

me-dgaf · 2019-12-21T21:57:54+00:00

After I made a little coin, the thots (single, married, engaged, divorced, whatever) that go around telling people what perfect lives they live and how strong and independent they are and they believe in fidelity, love, etc., start paying attention, readily accept lunch dates, sneaking to hotels, etc.

I haven't changed. Just that I came into a little dough, gained some weight, lost some hair. You do the math.

Over 15 years since this realization dawned on me. It's never yours, just your turn.

lazybaboon2001 · 2019-12-22T00:16:44+00:00

First relationship lasted three years I've been hit, bit, humiliated in public, drained of all energy and wonder, framed for crimes, and arrested all while still in highschool eventually I dumped her lost all my friends (took her side) and she called the cops again said I forced her to send nudes after 3 months of court they realized she lied and the case was dropped and icing on the cake was even though I was proven inocent my family treats me like a fucking rapest like I'm the bad guy I only ever tried to make her happy but I'm a man so I just automatically am the one at fault anyway since then I've been monk mode 4 and a half years never once regretted it

loke2dabrain · 2019-12-22T00:45:27+00:00

Nothing specific, just realizing women aren't worth it.

I find it hard to date now because I turn every relationship i get into to a competition of who needs who less. I always make sure I win tho.

I get along with female coworkers and friends fine I guess.

2019-12-21T22:14:19+00:00

No one event prompted me to make this life choice. The guys that go through one bad breakup and then declare their mgtow have a lot to learn. It's a wealth of experience that brought me here and that's what it needed to reinforce that all women are like that. Maybe the guys that haven't dated and learn from the wisdom of the people that have been burned have something going for them but the lessons I learned the hard way are never going to leave me and I'll never doubt the knowledge I have.

BetterHimThanMe · 2019-12-21T22:15:32+00:00

Miami Vice, Eddie Murphy's Raw and just looking back at all the women I've dated/lived with/fucked. Being surrounded by only women after my parents got divorced etc.

I knew at a very young age the game was rigged against men. But I still interact with women and I like sex with some of them. Sometimes it's somewhat nice to have them around but not for too long. They know where they stand with me so they don't nag or they're out the fucking door instantly. Or I walk out on them and hop in my sexy car to put the pedal to the metal.

My car > women, sometimes they get mad at me for that and all I do is smile. "You love your car more than women/me!"....damn straight, bitch. At least my car always starts and never stops giving me pleasure. Same goes for my other hobbies whether it be guitars, keyboards, robots, RC planes, videogames and so on.

Running the blade, so to speak.

2019-12-21T23:25:39+00:00

There was no single experience. It was death by a thousand cuts. Largely it was contact with feminists at University that began to change my thinking about women, but that was then reinforced and accelerated simply by observing the women around me.

How do I interact with women? Well I have ceased my benevolent sexism. I no longer give women the benefit of the doubt when they make a complaint or allegation. I am no longer interested in acting as an unpaid security guard for women. For example if I see insensibly drunk women being carried into a room by some guys at a party I don't care. It's just not my problem anymore. I don't wait for my sister to get inside before I drive away after dropping her off. I don't buy women food or gifts, or help them with anything really. Women don't help men, so why should men help them?

Being falsely accused of molestation by my mentally ill cousin and seeing how the authorities presumed my guilt when her allegation was literally impossible showed me how little women care for men accused of sexual crimes.

Obviously marriage and the lack of equality relating to children poses huge risks for men in the West. I may move to a different country and start a family later in life, but it won't be with a woman from a misandrist culture like the one I live in. Thankfully due to a successful career and a large inheritance I don't have to work, and may live how and where I wish.

Most of these questions relate to sex. I still fuck women. Usually teenage backpackers. Get them high and then go to town. Away from the judgemental eyes of their friends and family teenage girls are massive sluts. ”Finding yourself” with world travel is just female code for taking as many loads as possible.

I blend in really well. The people who know me don't know I'm MGTOW. There is no way to tell from my daily interactions with women. Funnily enough women really like me. Occasionally one will notice that I'm different tho. Like when I won't buy her a drink, or give her a cigarette. That I'm not willing to bend over backwards to please her. They are so used to men simping they don't even understand what is happening when you treat them normally.

hrm0894 · 2019-12-22T01:22:55+00:00

It was a gradual process. But I think the tinder experiments were the real nail in the coffin. A woman will sleep with Chad on the same night, but make Brad wait 3 or more days.

Also I've had girlfriends whom I treated like shit, and they practically worshipped me. So my disgust for women grew.

Kuoxsr · 2019-12-22T02:21:31+00:00

"... any woman could at any time, and the law will help them do it." - Karen Straughan, Girl Writes What

After 35 years of dating women and being disappointed, I finally met the one woman I thought was different. She was intelligent, loving, considerate and funny. She wasn't "hot," but she cooked for me, brought me dinner and entertained my friends and family... A friend of mine told me "she's a keeper. You can't let this one get away." So I married her, and things were great at first.

Then one day, I lost my job. I tried to get a new job in the same field, but time after time, I was rejected, sometimes in horrifically embarrassing ways. I began to become depressed and suicidal.

What did this loving woman do when I became suicidal?

She left me, of course. Before she went away, I told her "You're the only thing holding me together." She left me anyway.

She didn't give a shit about me. All she cared about was her lifestyle and the money I was bringing in. Eventually, she came back, but it was never the same after that. There was no encouragement or cheerleading. She never told me "you can do it" or "get back out there and win like I know you can" her statements were all about how much she was sacrificing for the household, and how much my lack of work was hurting her personally.

I finally got a job in a factory making half what I was making as a programmer in my previous career. This wasn't enough for her. But did she say something? Did she cut her lifestyle to match the new income? Nope. She continued to live the same lifestyle she was living when I was making twice as much money. She just made up for the lack of income by charging her expenses on high interest credit cards. Eventually, she ran up $30,000 in credit card debt.

One day, I asked her for the passwords to the credit card accounts so I could take a more active role in paying down the debt. The very next day, she disappeared.

A week later, after I texted her and asked her what she was doing, she finally stopped by and told me she was divorcing me. She claimed that her reason for divorcing me was that I had stopped asking her for sex. She disappeared three days before our anniversary weekend, and 13 days before her birthday. There was no way that this was a legit reason for leaving me. If she wanted sex, all she had to do was ask. If she wanted me to ask her, all she had to do was wait three days. The fact that she left three days before our anniversary weekend kind of suggests that she was trying to prevent me from having the opportunity to ask; not that she was sick of me not asking. I suspect that the guys she was chatting with in her Gems of War guild discord server were more likely the reason she decided to kick me to the curb. She chatted with them every day for months before she left me. I wonder what they talked about...

So yeah, if this woman wasn't the kind of woman who was "safe" to marry (at least in the beginning), then no woman is. I will never be able to come up with a set of criteria by which to judge whether I can trust a woman again thanks to my ex wife. None of the negative things she did to me during our relationship could have been predicted by any of her behavior prior to our marriage. She was perfect as can be before our marriage. She only changed after I lost my ability to provide.

How do I interact with women today? Now, as always, I interact with women as if they are men. I regard them as equals and listen to what they have to say with the same consideration that I would any man. Thanks to my experiences, however, I will never date a single one of them ever again.

Rooftopred · 2019-12-22T01:47:43+00:00

A very bad relationship which flip flopped between being great and being abused (physically, emotionally, financially). When I had enough and left she suddenly decided to try getting her shit together to win me back. No way, José, I’m gunna live for myself now.

I’ve got to say I really like it. Things are so much simpler now that I don’t have to consider another person in every decision I make.

How do I deal with women now? I’m friendly but I won’t build any sort of relationship aside from being acquaintances.

SolitarySuperSoldier · 2019-12-22T03:44:39+00:00

None. I don't need to experience misery to become MGTOW. It was a completely rational decision based purely on logic. I never had any negative experience with women. And probably never will now that I know about female nature and how to deal with it. I don't actively avoid women but I don't seek them either.

dank_child_420 · 2019-12-22T03:57:29+00:00

this was way back in 7th grade, i saw a girl, that had a nice ass, im a pretty straightforward guy so i told my "friend" not even to the girl but my supposedly trusted friend that i liked how her ass looked, that friend of mine went to the class teacher and snitched on me , instead of confronting me the class teacher (female) sent me to the counsellor (also female) she first acted she wanted to help me , but then she was just like a leech sucking my emotions out and playing on them and reporting them to the principal, she got me expelled from the school, at that moment my friend , was when i broke.

RyansPutter · 2019-12-22T08:02:03+00:00

Being in the bar/restaurant business for nearly a decade. It's kind of amusing: bikers have a bad reputation but I've never any problems with them at work. Young women have a good reputation according to the media, the courts, politicians, their parents, etc., but I could write a book about all the stuff drunken 20-something skanks have said or done.

The time I was bartending at a dive bar and a woman ordered a Jack and Coke and when I poured it and told her the price, she asked if she would get it for free if she showed me her boobs. I said no. She paid. Then showed me them anyways. One time a girl said found out I got an employee discount and said that if I bought her nachos, she would take her shirt off. I've seen plenty of drunk girls show their breasts to everyone at the bar (or attempt too).

I've been hit on by married women, birthday girls, women 20 years older than me. Had a woman try to slap my ass with her husband five feet away. Known waitresses who fucked half the bar regulars.

Drunk, out of control young women are the worst. When a guy is being drunk and stupid, I talk to his friends and let them know that he's got to get under control or he's out. If I told that to a girl's friends, they'd get mad at me and the whole group would end up ejected.

One time a girl started a fight and when I tried breaking it up, she shoved me. The cops showed up and I pressed charges for battery: she was arrested. Another time, a woman got hauled away in handcuffs for domestic battery against her husband. These are the only times that I've ever seen someone arrested for battery. In each case, the drunk girl cried as she was arrested - they didn't understand that the law applies to them as well.

After dealing with drunk, sloppy, mouthy, slutty women for almost a decade, I have no interest in LTRs or marriage. I'll mess around with a girl if I have an opportunity, but I won't go out of my way or pursue it. I have no interest in getting serious with a woman who probably spent her 20s getting drunk and plowed by anything with a dick.

Title	What experience with women caused you to go MGTOW? How do you interact with women now (if at all)?
Author	poopiedoodie710
Upvotes	10
Comments	42
Date	December 21, 2019 9:29 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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