hard-working Christian guy VS alpha male in sexual attraction NEED Clarification

Jaggarojo · 2020-04-25T15:14:09+00:00

I condone you for putting in the work before asking your question. That's a great first step.

1- People like to debate whether looks, game, or status (money) plays the bigger role in attraction, but imo the debate is pointless. They're mutually exclusive. Treat them as separate fields that you need to improve on.

2- Dominance as an isolated character trait doesn't do much, because the blue pill sells the dream to women as much as it does to men. It's more like: When a woman looks at you, she instantly makes a mental assessment about your looks, character, status, etc. Because when she allows herself to be swept by another man, she's actually choosing to live inside this man's world. And without assertiveness, that world is bound to crumble.

3- Here's a divisive one. I do believe we should convey vulnerability at times, but it should never be done in front of a woman. I attend a weekly session reserved for men who share thinga they normally don't. A lot of my problems came from bottling up a bunch of emotions, and I'm learning how to cope with them. I've been living a better life when I don't havd anything to hide.

Whisper · 2020-04-25T16:35:03+00:00

(random question) I've been hearing so much about men having to be more vulnerable and emotional because it's mentally healthier to express emotions rather than repress them. I understand why being stoic and logic based is attractive to women, but I still don't understand why the blue pillers are wrong when they say it's healthier to express emotion. if it's healthier it's healthier?

This is the only interesting question you asked.

The way of TRP is not emotional repression. It is emotional control.

Remember that your emotions evolved to aid you. To motivate you to do things that are good for you. But they also evolved in circumstances very unlike your life today. So they are sometimes helpful to you and sometimes not.

Things that are sometimes useful and sometimes not make terrible masters, but excellent tools... the distinguishing feature of a tool is that you possess it, and you decide how and when to use it. A tool is useless if you never use it, and downright destructive if you use for things it's not useful for.

When an emotion makes you want to do something, that's fine. It might be something you need or want to do. To thrive, you must learn to insert a small moment of goal-oriented thought between the feeling and the action. And in that gap, ask yourself "where does my best interest lie?".

Andrew54321 · 2020-04-25T14:31:01+00:00

First. These questions are better than 99% of the questions posted here.

So, so share my opinions on your questions...

There is no sexual attraction to the provider. She lets you smash because you feed her and shit.
Dominance over your life is a strong attraction force (won’t rank because that’s like saying sugar is more important than eggs in a cake, you need it all to complete the recipe). So lift.
Vulnerability is for the weak. There is a difference between vulnerable and honesty/openness/truthful. Vulnerable is a weakened state that does not allow for reinforcement or bolstering.

2020-04-25T14:23:38+00:00

I just answered a similar question to this, women are attracted to authentic men. I'd recommend reading "Welcome to the desert of the real" by Zizek as he illustrates the delusions of grandeur endemic to Americanism.

Take for example you average youtube "influencer" with an exotic car, large house and paid female actors as a hyperbole. The "influencer" has the appearance of success but is mortgaged to the hilt and it only takes one disaster (our current period) to rattle down that house of cards. You don't see many "influencers" talking about their 10week programs for only 6,999 currently.

Women don't want to date, have children by, soft (physically and mentally) emoting men if they do they've been heavily socialized and believe that a 911 call is the best self defense. This goes back to my earlier point about "The Real". Why train physically to defend oneself, why take care of one's health, when help is just a phone call away?

The problem is 911 takes at least 10 minutes to arrive and a lot can happen in 10 minutes.

Don't be the guy that locks himself in the bathroom waiting on your outsourced masculinity to come save you.

A big problem with TRP is it is infested with Anglo-puritan mysticism, coming from an Anglo. It is the sperg tier belief that being masculine is what one decides what is masculine for them. Man needs external factors, points of reference, to actualize himself within the herd.

WhatRemainsAfter · 2020-04-25T16:46:59+00:00

Hey Man,

Welcome to the red pill. The world will change from here.

Now below are the answers:

You earn money and become financially independent for yourself. This is because being a poor dude is not fun. Money will not solve all your problems but will help you navigate them with minimum fuss.

Having financial security will give your confidence. More confident you are, more pussies (people in general) will be attracted to you.

Women don't think like that. It is their biology. They have biological clock to cater to. So, having a strong independent man is necessary for her and her offspings survival.
Never supress emotions. It is not healthy nd your life will become a living hell.

But a wise man knows when and where to express them and where not to.

Women are not best judge of emotions and it is advised rarely to express that side to them.

So how you solve this - find hobbies that you like and express yourself there. If done correctly, you won't need a bitch to cry yourself to.

You got it mate!

Cheers!

cglehosit · 2020-04-25T17:13:41+00:00

This is a fine distinction, however part of the idea here is that a True Alpha in mind and body knows how to toggle back and forth between the comfort role (good Christian provider guy) and the “Chad” role (whatever her version of macho man is). This toggle feature focuses on the woman’s hormonal fluctuations that are created by the Menstruation cycle. See Rolo Tamassi’s Your Friend Menstruation

Conflicts, “plate breaking,” and distress in LTRs/marriages are ALWAYS a derivative of the man not calibrating his toggle switch, or not toggling ever. This is where the “good Christian guy” gets in trouble, he often will assume his ideal, good provider qualities are all he needed to win her affection (often after 2 years of courtship or something), so he never downs the Chad persona when she needs clear, strong excitement through leadership. You hear this all the time: “women are just always changing their minds! I’ll never understand them!” Yeah that’s a guy who can’t toggle back and forth.

So you are correct, there is a duality that men must master if you want to be in an LTR. However, this duality is really two components that together (with timing) create the True Alpha. You need both the “Chad thundercock lets go on an adventure and I’ll hoist you up the mountain with my ripped body” and “Chad IDGAF the world sucks, I’m still going to provide firm emotional grounding and resources for you,” just know when to toggle back and forth between them.

The1ndex · 2020-04-25T16:33:03+00:00

Women are sexually attracted to powerful men. What makes a man powerful can be many things.

The Christian guy volunteering and working hard is not powerful for two reasons.

volunteering is submissive by nature(you’re giving away your time and presence for free)
Christianity by nature is submissive(you’re holding hands with women in church, praising the real alpha male, Jesus(I.e. not you))

Batman-von-Pepe · 2020-04-26T03:42:35+00:00

I think it's easier to think in terms of attraction vs. arousal. She will be aroused by the alpha but be attracted to but not aroused by the beta provider for what he can supply (attention, money, etc.).

Noodlesoupe2 · 2020-04-26T08:56:57+00:00

To answer question 3: Girls like it when men are sensitive and emotional but only if they are alpha in all other ways and they can control their emotions. In other words the guy who isn't afraid to be sensitive is more attractive and approachable than a guy who is a complete brick wall, but that doesn't mean they want a crybaby. Also don't treat women as mother or therapists because their pussies will dry up like the Sahara the second like they feel like you rely on them.

Title	hard-working Christian guy VS alpha male in sexual attraction NEED Clarification
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Date	April 25, 2020 11:24 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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