So many of us believe HVM are in short supply but even when we find them do we stand a chance? Even HVM's are drawn to damaged women.. I've given up on ever finding one in my 40s. Thank GOD for FDS helping me realize my self worthiness!

ManchurianCantaloupe · 2020-03-03T19:54:21+00:00

Mmm... no, that's not the way I'm reading this study at all. They refer to "average personalities," as in there isn't something pathologically wrong with him. That doesn't mean he knows how to properly bathe, or is emotionally intelligent, has a stable job, or is interesting, or won't cheat on you. The average man is already low value.

HVM are in short supply because real HVM are not attracted to pathological women.

ilikesoy_ · 2020-03-03T20:42:56+00:00

i stopped romanticizing mens true nature early in my teen years. 13 years old was when i realized even the "good" guys are also trash.

i saw a quote a few years ago and it still remains true. "yes, all men are trash. Some are recyclable trash, some are biodegradable, while others are single use plastics" basically means all men truly are trash, some just less damaging than the rest

Maisiebr · 2020-03-03T19:54:05+00:00

That's not really the conclusion of the article. LVM skew the data, also a relationship being long-term doesn't mean it's happy. "The findings are limited since they are drawn from patients in a single clinic, rely on self-reports of relationships instead of objective criteria and do not speak of the motivations or personalities of the relationship partners of the respondents."

throwahweigh3521 · 2020-03-03T20:15:02+00:00

Science literacy: the article argument is filled with “could suggest” sample size insufficiency, alternative explanations and the unstated assumptions about good methodology and replicable results.

Fear of not finding a man is social programming.

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Nearby-Armadillo · 2020-03-03T19:51:40+00:00

I'm calm, sane, and stable. This explains so much.

butterflymeadowzz · 2020-03-03T19:57:25+00:00

I can agree with your stance on this.

Why is toxicity appealing to even a HVM?

Haunting_Platypus · 2020-03-06T22:47:06+00:00

im damaged as fuck maybe i should quit therapy

redfarmmmmm · 2020-03-04T08:36:21+00:00

Yes but in real life guys say it too that HVW is rare. It is, in real life, good looking, fit, healthy minded people with good morals is rare. Its like how you cannot attract good looking guys when your average girls unless you’re willing to do other things that makes you stand out. HVM guys just wouldn’t go pursue you just because you’re a woman. You need to bring similar values to the table, empathy, kindness, motivation and other things.

GuiltyOriginal · 2020-03-04T09:21:53+00:00

The usual thing is a empathetic person falling for a narcissist (check how many couples with 2 narcissists are out there. The number is VERY low), so a HVM with a bitch usually is the norm and vice-versa.

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