I just have one question

Awkward-Office · 2020-07-14T08:49:39+00:00

Neither. A system based on treating everyone as equal. I know everyone isn’t equal based on an individual basis, certain men are better at things than other men and women, some women are better at things than other women and men. But like the law of treating every as innocent until proven guilty, it would work as though every individual starts on an even playing field and then proves their worth.

PacificPlatypus · 2020-07-14T09:49:46+00:00

Neither.

You're a good poet, but that's a lot of words for "I'm scared of change."

GennyX · 2020-07-14T09:13:54+00:00

Matriarchy is an old tradition in many cultures. It’s not a new thing.

Suck-Less · 2020-07-14T09:52:40+00:00

The problem is that any historical patriarchy in the US was torn down by targeting and breaking boys. By feminism infesting the education system and media: effectively educating boys and girls that men are the root cause of all evil. That women would succeed if men just got out of the way.

If feminism is some kind of noble cause then we are heading towards a magical utopia of equality. Feminism requires the objectification of men as “evil man objects” and women as “victim objects.” It defines the best human behavior as female behavior. It has nothing to do with equality. Feminism depends on a belief that women are superior.

I’m right we will see the following.

Significant decreases in the social skills of young men, especially in respect to how they interact with women. What subreddit are we on?
Since these young men are raised to walk on eggshells around women, there will be a significant increase in young men seeking out alternative, paid for, illusions of relationships. Aka “fans only” aka porn, instead of developing healthy relationships with women.
A serious increase in obesity via depression.
Men actively avoiding any kind of “helping” women. From pulling something of the shelf for an old lady, to refusing to even have basic manners like holding open a door.
Continuing drop in male higher education.
Increase in misandry, and misogyny.
Young men increasingly treating women like trash or deferring all decisions to her. Again, what subreddit are we on?
Significant increases in women complaining that their male spouses are acting like children and won’t even make decisions.
Serious drop offs in the number of young men willing to do the dirty, dangerous jobs. Did you know that there is such a shortage of skilled labor in the US, that a skilled welder makes more than someone with a PHD?
Generations of your men going online to try and figure out what a man is, how to be a man, and why women aren’t interested in them.

Look around, see how men and women are interacting. Then tell me if you are seeing what I’m seeing. If you do, than consider that I might also be right about the root cause.

So, what replaces the patriarchy? Matriarchal social structures, both in hard and soft power constructs. Almost immediately followed by a breakdown of infrastructure.

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HODL_monk · 2020-07-14T09:00:18+00:00

Life isn't a zero sum game. Why waste your time tearing things down, when you can build your own better thing on top of what is ? Tradition means very little, almost nothing to the next generation. The 'patriarchy' is a red herring. The entire system is thoroughly corrupt, both the male dominated tech landscape, the mad moneyprinting FED, and the female centric family courts, and they all need to be out competed by something better. A new decentralized future is coming, one that laughs at formerly not evil tech companies that are the new age censors, disease covered paper money that will be worth nothing soon, and this ridiculous idea that in any custody situation that isn't Mr. Mom getting the child a huge portion of penis income must be given to the vagina. I can't believe conservatives of the aauts actually thought homosexuals were going to be the ones to destroy 'traditional marriage'...

TheBookOfSeil · 2020-07-14T09:00:41+00:00

It will have to be one or the other because there's really no such thing as egalitarianism. It's basically a fantasy that people will be equal to each other. I'm wagering that an oligarchy or an aristocracy will develop at some point because people are too dumb to understand what even is going on anymore. They'll happily accept whoever decides to take the lead as long as they can continue living their lives as they currently do (save for the people at the bottom, of course).

NarniaFox · 2020-07-14T11:54:59+00:00

Egalitarianism.

Traditions were tested for societies and economics that they worked for. They don't work well for today's world and have a lot of side-effects that we yet have to undo.

EggSalad69 · 2020-07-14T15:45:04+00:00

I agree with most of what you’re saying. Societies from the break of dawn, from Babylon to Rome onward have all had their peak and decline. I agree the same will happen with the US and most capitalists countries. I would even gander to say that all systems of government operate on greed and pocketing the rich.

Then you throw in words like “equal rights,” what does that mean? No one as long as people live will be equal. “The poor will always be with you.” And my second gripe is emphasis on education. What education are you proposing we support? Most education is just indoctrination into a system of beliefs that people want you to believe. Take for example in the US you can’t even mention the name of God without being threatened termination. And medicine is great but we all die. That’s the problem we need to address but we’re in denial. There can be no separation of church and state. Religion and spirituality is vital to the human being and the suppression of it is a big cause of the drastic rise in major depression and mental illness.

woxmintari · 2020-07-14T09:42:43+00:00

We do not live in a patriarchy, if we do then this patriarchy has been letting men down for decades.

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-07-14T11:15:05+00:00

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Title	I just have one question
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Date	July 14, 2020 8:17 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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