A longer post from another sub repeated here (its purge...)
Before you read this post, please listen to this interview with the author of the book - no more Mr Nice Guy - by Patrick Bet David from the Valuetainment channel.
I didn't read the book. I heard about it again and again, but I never read it. Now that I listened to this excellent interview with the author, I know that I will not waste my time and money on this book. If I'm stuck on a 18 hour flight and you offer me the book to read, sure, I'll read it. But I won't intentionally read it and here's why.
Much of what he speaks about is true. Being a nice guy is a turnoff for women and learning how to be assertive and masculine and all the things he speaks about, will make you more attractive to women. I don't dispute the effectiveness of his techniques nor do I question the truth of his premises.
So what's my issue with his approach?
There are several issues.
Number one - the relationship between responsibility and authority. In law and culture, there's a gender imbalance between responsibility and authority. Men have a surplus of responsibility and a deficit of authority. Women have a surplus of authority and a deficit of responsibility.
Responsibility without authority is slavery, authority without responsibility is tyranny. What we have today is female tyranny and male slavery (in the soft form).
Number two - pickup artistry works, but is it really worth all that effort and degradation?
You must invest time, effort, energy and money to wow her out of her panties. After all that, she's always free to say no. If you're married to her, you need to put in all this effort on top of paying for everything (or most of it) and listening to her bitch and she is still free to say no.
By investing all that energy into obtaining sex, you're handling her all that power in the relationship and for what? Is sex that great that it's worth all those hoops?
Number three - most women today are truly not worth that degree of effort and commitment. They are already second hand, damaged goods with baggage and mental health issues. They come with STD's and/or children and demands out the ass. They're lazy and entitled and offer little to no benefit to a man.
Granted, hashtag not all, but these things are common enough to make a generalization regarding the state of the modern woman.
Number four - they can seriously fuck up your life at any time. Divorce rape, holding your children hostage, false accusations of rape, sexual assault or domestic violence. The law and culture is on their side and will help her destroy your life on a whim.
Conclusion
The juice isn't worth the squeeze and even if it was, it isn't healthy to invest all the time, energy and money into someone who will sit back and accept or reject your efforts without any investment on her part.
Many men are waking up to these sobering realities and walking away from women altogether. Many already married men are learning to give and love on their own terms and to stop bending over backwards to try and please her. Ironically, this often makes us more attractive to the women, but oftentimes, it's too late. The well has been poisoned.
That's where the good men went. They are no longer interested in trying to fulfill your impossible demands.
Men don't redpill men, women redpill men.
Cheers!
So now change my mind.
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