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Yeah I know it's risky but she was a nice woman. Thought we had good chemistry. I know she's only an escort but I still need chemistry for sex with a woman. What do you think it means if I booked for 1 hour, but she saw me for 1.5 hours and only charged for 1 hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:08 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:50 PM
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Ok I will do next time to see what it's like. It would have to be with someone different because she said she didn't want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:11 PM
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Well I did it and I enjoyed it and she seemed to enjoy it too. She said she was just doing this as a part time thing in the holidays, she has an outside life and she gets tested regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:10 PM
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NSFW post: I created a post a few days ago about visiting an escort to rim my ass: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/x8varf/daily_community_chat_megathread/inomios/?context=3 Not sure who read that here. Anyway just wanted to report back that I didn't end up seeing that escort in the end. She cancelled on me at the last minute which I was very annoyed about. Instead I saw a young-ish escort, 28 years old. Almost same age as me. She didn't rim my ass (she doesn't offer that). Ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:54 AM
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Ok. I'll come back here and tell you how it feels. God I hope it feels good now. The idea of having my butthole licked and kissed is such a turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:47 PM
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Interesting. I wonder why I read online from a lot of women who are grossed out by it or don't get anything from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:19 PM
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Not done it yet. I was asking you how it felt having it done to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:42 AM
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What does it feel like? So I have an idea before it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:25 PM
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Most women on this sub are 40+ years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:20 PM
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But I'm a young guy who goes to the gym and looks after myself :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:11 PM
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I told her I will be clean for it and she said that's fine. I won't use lotions. It might end up being disappointing but it also could feel great to have a tongue licking back there. I am looking forward to it either way! haha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:36 AM
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Bit too late to do that. I'm not very hairy back there anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:20 AM
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Because it's something I've never done before but I'd like to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:19 AM
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Well yeah obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:11 AM
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She's very near to where I live, just a quick walk. I messaged a bunch of other escorts but none of them replied apart from her. Generally the less attractive escorts are cheaper and I'll still get turned on, plus all she's doing is rimming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:03 AM
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Thanks. Have you done this before?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:00 AM
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£60 for 30 minutes. If I wanted 1 hour, it would be £100.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:59 AM
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But I was looking for opinions and what I can hope to expect from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:58 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:53 AM
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I just booked an escort for the weekend. Booked her for 30 minutes just to rim my ass lol. Never had this done before, even though I do lots of squats in the gym to keep my ass in shape haha! She's 61 years old, on the chubby side, over twice my age. Is this kind of weird? What do you think I can expect from it? I think there are escorts who post on this subreddit so maybe they can offer insight. Sorry if this isn't appropriate subject for this subreddit, I can delete the post if needs be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:49 AM
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Are you male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:44 AM
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Musk is more intelligent than any of us though and is not far off colonizing Mars. So a man who is able to do that will probably know a thing or two about the future of humanity on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:03 PM
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They should do what incels do and not have sex. I thought the women on this sub say that sex isn't important. In the case, no need to have it. Why are you so happy to see birth rates plummet? Do you enjoy watching the human race go extinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:25 AM
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Lol what else are they gonna do in their free time? If someone has nothing to do in their free time, they should have kids? lol Not read a book or socialise or find a hobby or work or any number of other things. And typically homeless women are raped and sexually assaulted so most of those kids are unwanted pregnancies. Oh right, so their population increasing is all down to women getting raped? Doubtful. Unwanted pregnancies - you just touched on the issue in the OP. How do you stop unwanted pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:05 AM
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Cost isn't a big enough reason, otherwise the poorest people in the world wouldn't have the most kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:39 AM
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Population decline is one of those problems that need to be addressed well in advance, like climate change, otherwise we reach a point of no return where it becomes incredibly difficult to fix. Already many countries are trying to provide incentives for people to have kids. The world population is largely being propped up by Africa and India right now. The climate impact is a myth. Elon Musk says so and I trust him over someone called januaryphilosopher on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:29 PM
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I find it hot when women discuss this stuff. Most of them don't, but sometimes their mask slips and they will just blurt it out. Reading femaledatingstrategy is an eye opener, although that's full of mentally damaged old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:21 PM
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As opposed to my common sense. Common sense seems to have disappeared in the west these days, what with all this wokeism nonsense and third wave feminism. It's going to get even worse with the tiktok generation growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:19 PM
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Well actually lower birth rates are bad if everywhere has a birth rate below replacement level. That means humans die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:14 PM
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Totally different cultures, impossible to compare. No figures either, just baseless speculation. Anyway I'm done with you. If we can't even agree on a very basic fact, this conversation cannot be continued. It's like trying to argue against the sky being blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:02 PM
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Why are you bringing in a totally separate issue? We're discussing sexual harassment and now you're attacking me personally. Stick to the subject please. I could easily report you for breaking rule 2, but I'm not a snitch so I won't. Now logically what you said doesn't make any sense. A woman who dresses half naked gets just the same sexual harassment as a woman who completely covers up. That's not what really happens and we both know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:58 PM
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So would you say you watch what you say, because you don't want men to know the truth of what women are really like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:53 PM
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No they don't. Sexual harassment happens regardless of dress. I'm sure it can happen regardless of dress, but it's way way more likely to happen when you dress a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:48 PM
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What specific things do you say and do differently? I'll tell you the different things men say and do differently without women if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:44 PM
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You say and do different things when it's only girls? What like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:27 PM
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Obviously you don't deserve that. It should be obvious to 99.9% of men from your body language and the way you dress, what kind of attention you're looking for, if you're looking for any attention. There will always be a few idiots who can't work that out, but generally most men understand these things. No not at all. I just asked some questions. I wasn't going to ask anything more than a few questions about lower body exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:23 PM
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I blame people in general for being stupid and not understanding the risks and dangers of doing certain things. Just like I'd say a man was stupid for walking down some dark backstreets of a rough area of town at night with his expensive iphone on display. That's what women are doing by dressing almost naked and then expecting no sexual attention. Or only sexual attention from those they want it from. That's an idealistic and delusional view of the world. By in the wrong space, do you mean the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:13 PM
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Yeah I got some good advice yesterday and I'm grateful for that, but I posted a different question today. Also what does misogyny even mean anymore? It seems to mean "anything that is critical of women, even if that criticism is deserved". Actual misogyny and misandry is wrong, but the word gets thrown around so often these days, it's used more than anything as a shame word to get you to comply with what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:51 PM
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I like complaining about women! :P Mainly because you can't seem to have a conversation with them without them trying to figure out some ulterior motive of why you're talking to them. I never had this problem with men. I just speak to men and they are fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:41 PM
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Fair enough. The daily question thread was buried somewhere further down the page and I just saw the words "wednesday" so assumed that was the thread to ask in. I guess I was wrong! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:34 PM
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How come? Do you just have a feeling that they are sexual predators? Sometimes you just need to say hi to them and smile and you realize they're normal people like the rest of us. I have started to say hi and smile to people more often and it breaks down that barrier between people. We have this idea in our heads that people are out to "get us" but that's rarely the case. People just want to be acknowledged and appreciated as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:31 PM
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Because I want to ask something. And you shouldn't discriminate, that's how we get a divided world. It's sad how certain groups want inclusivity and equality and equal representation, but they are the first to discriminate against people who don't look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:28 PM
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Most of the stuff that gets talked about here is weird, yet when you call people out on it, you're told to "be civil" or "don't troll". Well I can ask elsewhere, just got taken aback by the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:25 PM
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It's not one response though, it's occurred in every female majority space.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:22 PM
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Hey I was just making a point! Weird how just asking a simple question can get this much hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:20 PM
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It's strange because they demand respect from men, they demand men don't do this or that, they want equality, but then they don't give any of that back to men. They want respect and equality to just be a one-way street. I'm fine with being pleasant and respectful to women if they treat me the same way in return, but more often than not, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:49 PM
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I posted a question on xxfitness. It's advertised as a female fitness sub but it does say all genders are welcome to post. I asked a polite question, wasn't rude, and immediately one user told me I "shouldn't invade this sub" because it's "not for me". Basically I got met with hostility. My post got downvoted a lot for no reason. It's been like that on other female dominated subs too. When they find out you're male, no matter how polite you are, you get met with bitterness and vitriol. Has anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:40 PM
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Damn, the privilege to be able to hop into relationships whenever you feel like. The dudes who are sticking around have no other options - that's sadly what it's like for most dudes. Dating is a women's game where women have the freedom to do whatever and dudes must take what comes to them. I'd rather never marry than marry a girl with issues. I've never spoken to a girl off a dating app who didn't have issues, which is tragic. Seems like the majority of girls in western society have issues. Our…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:34 AM
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Huh, did you even read the post? You completely missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:31 AM
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I'm just going by my experience. I also looked up some red pill videos after this and they say that any woman who is not over her ex and mentions it early is a huge red flag. No wonder the one woman I gave a chance to who did this, treated me so badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:26 AM
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Any woman I talk to on online dating, she conveniently reveals that she is just recently out of a bad relationship or she got hurt by her ex. They reveal this quite early on. Is it best to stop talking to these women? If she says this early on, clearly she has issues that she hasn't resolved yet. I tried dealing with a woman like this once and it was horrible. She treated me like sh*t, was very hostile, and of course withheld any sort of intimacy or sex. Can't deal with a woman who has been ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:37 PM
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My parents seem to really like each other as people. Like they're great friends with each other and rely on each other a lot. Maybe that's what relationships are about?
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 10:18 PM
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I've seen Chads have complete disregard for women and never struggle. Don't think it's that. We just have to accept that some men aren't born with the desired attributes - short, bad face, feminine voice, autism and so on. No tall, dark, handsome man has ever had a problem with his toxic masculinity not attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:52 PM
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They aren't persecuted in the west, wtf?? In a big urban western city, gays and lesbians are very accepted. You are persecuted if you have prejudice against gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:43 PM
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Well they sound like idiots if they can't stop pregnancy that they didn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:42 PM
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Does this mean I can charge gay men money to suck my dick? The demand clearly exceeds supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:39 PM
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Why would a 20 year old lesbian or gay man have any recollection of what happened 100+ years ago? Doesn't make any sense. Western society is now very accepting of gays and lesbians. Lose your bitterness please, it's not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:32 PM
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Is "fully independent of them and had all my own stuff going on" just another way of saying you don't want to spend time with them? If that's the case, no wonder they got angry. You're basically sticking 2 fingers up at them and saying "my other stuff is more important than you". I wouldn't want to have a friend or partner who viewed me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:27 PM
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Accidental, or just stupid for not using birth control? There's a difference. Like I say, there's no excuse for accidental babies when it's about 60 years since the sexual revolution and introduction of the pill, plus condoms and all the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:45 PM
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So when you introduce different genders, suddenly everyone doesn't view the other person as a human anymore? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:43 PM
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Cool, so is there a red pill subreddit for gay bottoms? So they can devise strategies to have sex with tops. Is there a subreddit for bottoms going their own way? Do they go monk mode? Do they self improve and find their mission? No I thought not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:41 PM
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Accidental babies aren't at play in normal dating either. There is the pill, condoms, abortions. You can have as much sex as you want without babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:38 PM
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But they don't need red pill and fds. Their problems can't be that big if they don't need these sorts of things in order to devise strategies with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:36 PM
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Like 1 in 10 men are gay though, right? It's still a noticeable proportion, but it appears they don't struggle at all compared to their straight counterparts. Certainly they don't have a need to create red pill techniques and strategies. ​ I would like to add that a lot of us here don’t need to use these subs. We just like to talk shit. Don't you have anything else productive to do with your time? Not "chat shit" to a bunch of people who are struggling in dating and life. You also must have had …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:17 PM
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Why do you assume they don’t? Aren’t you guys always saying men are polygynous and want variety? Ah right, so you think their wives are having regular hot, kinky sex with their husbands, but it's not enough and those men STILL need to visit escorts, and then lie to those escorts that their wives aren't giving them sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:57 PM
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Their jokes are accurate if you actually listen to them. They cover it up in humour and loud expressive voices to make people laugh, but if you listen to the content of what they say, it's accurate. Not just for sex but a whole range of different issues they talk about. The British comedian Michael Mcintyre has made jokes about things like public transport, visiting restaurants, airports, supermarkets - all the things he says are very accurate, based on my own experience and the experience of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:19 PM
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There’s a reason you pay money to see them and laugh. Their takes are massive exaggerations. Are you that gullible? Their takes are accurate, they just cover it up in humour to make it seem not as serious. If they actually complained about this in a serious manner, they'd be called incels and misogynists and get told to shut up. Case in point - men here on PPD who complain about it, just get told that sex isn't important and they need to shut up about it. You don't agree because you're not a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:15 PM
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This is how most men in society think. Ever heard a comedian talk about having sex with their wife? They will joke that they need to "behave" or "help around the house" and then they earn the "right" to have sex or they get given sex only on special occasions like a "birthday blowjob".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:57 PM
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Yeah. What is the male reality and what is the female reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:55 PM
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If you're not attracting women and it's making you unhappy that you're aren't, then you need to change it. Women will tell you "there's nothing wrong with you, we're all different, be proud of who you are" while ignoring you and getting railed by the tall masculine hunk instead. So don't listen to women, they're not going to give you advice that is in your best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:49 PM
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It is whatever fits their narrative, that's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 05:13 AM
1

Where did he say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 05:10 AM
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It's not unnecessary if it's the only hope a man has of getting a partner. Why you telling those men to accept the fact they won't have a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:46 PM
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I swear you just described exactly what a woman is like. I wonder why the women on this sub just project what they are like as people onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:49 PM
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This is what western society used to be like 60-70 years ago, until it all became about "how I feel" "focus on yourself" and just generally selfish individualism and hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:28 PM
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Their population is still increasing though. How does that work??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:31 PM
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Well yeah, I did say there was such a thing as too tall. But you will still have many more advantages over a 5'3 man. Better to be your height than 5'3.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:15 PM
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Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:13 PM
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Yes they do. They view men for their monetary utility by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:31 AM
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36-40% might have some issues. 50%+ is the only category where it would become an obvious hindrance, and even then, that category would still do miles better than an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:13 PM
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Either way, the bias is obvious. So we must disregard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:10 PM
1

Oh dear, you have no clue what it's like to be a man. No point having a conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:09 PM
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This sounds like it's written by a woman who wants men to simp for her, or a man who simps for women. Hard to tell which.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:25 PM
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Assuming we are talking about western english speaking nations like USA, UK and Canada: 5'8 starts to become a noticeable problem, with every inch below that making it a lot more difficult. 5'9-5'11 6'0-6'5 Anything over 6'5. There is such a thing as too tall, but a man won't reach too tall with most women until he's like 6'6 or more, and very few men are that tall. Even then, there will still be a decent number of women who love it. I don't know any women who love a 5'3 man. And height has been…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:46 PM
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This sub seems to think that if you're not obese, you are automatically top 20% and women should pay attention to you. It doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:16 PM
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You're a woman as well, judging by your avatar, so your experience will be vastly different. It's so easy for women to make friends. They never need to prove themselves, they just need to be themselves and people gravitate towards them. I have to prove myself everywhere I go in order for anyone to give me the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:31 AM
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Blue pills, you mean viagra? Why doesn't your johnson work? Also that image is probably photoshopped. It's always strange how I see images like this online, but then when you get to real life, no one looks like this, even those who are regularly going to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:19 PM
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Because you say so? You have no clue what makes individual people happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:07 PM
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You're supposed to have friends, but when it comes to a relationship, you must be happy on your own first. How does that logic work??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:38 PM
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If you're miserable without social interaction, why would anyone want to talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:28 PM
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Oh right, I guess you know better then, silly me! All women are the same, no matter how they were brought up and their life experiences, all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:23 AM
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I don't understand either. Also when a woman lists the disadvantages she has, I experience almost all the same disadvantages as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:09 AM
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Yet it's women who take more prescription drugs for mental health. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:33 AM
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It was a man making the post though. (unless it was a woman pretending to be a man)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:21 AM
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Is it another case of apex fallacy? Looking at a small percentage of top men and thinking every man has the same privilege as those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:17 AM
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But how can you never fear for your safety as a man?? Just because a woman can't beat you up, a man could, a group of people could, someone with a weapon could. Wtf is this nonsense that men never need to fear for their safety?? And men always taken seriously, that must be a joke too!! Then he said that men's bodies are better because they are "functional". Functional for what?? We sit at our desks all day and use transport. No one needs to be functional anymore. Functionality is useless in this…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:12 AM
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I was reading a thread on here about the advantages of being a man. The OP seems to think that men never need to fear for their safety and men are always taken seriously. Is that a joke?? I fear for my safety many times (eg. at night, in a place I am unfamiliar with) and I am frequently not taken seriously. I'd love to be this mythical man who is always safe and always gets given respect and seriousness wherever he goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:03 AM
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I fear for my security at night, as a male. Just because women can't beat you up, doesn't mean a man can't, doesn't mean a group of people can't, doesn't mean someone with a weapon can't. Women can control that too and many do these days. Meeting in broad daylight in a public setting, women should never need to worry about their security. Also see point number 1. Just because a woman can't beat you up, doesn't mean there aren't many other situations where your safety is at risk. I'll give you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:52 PM
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"Stop being a misogynist and you would have better dating success" "Stop being an asshole and you would have better dating success" "Just be yourself" "Ignore women/stop focusing on women and women will enter your life"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:28 PM
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It's still the woman denying the sex, that's why. Even though it's the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:29 PM
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You can order an escort online here. I think brothels are legal too but never went to one personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:28 PM
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Pretty much. There's not much reliable data on many issues relating to sex and relationships, so this thread is just speculation about what people believe reliable data would say (if we had access to such data).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:25 PM
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Where did I blame that particular reason on the woman? That's obviously male problem where he is incompetent at sex and should improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:24 PM
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Weeks minimum wage? It costs about £40 for 30 minutes where I'm from. Even less for 15 minutes. Minimum wage is more than that. Anyway buying sex doesn't count lmao, otherwise all the incels on here would have bought sex a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:35 PM
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Sex isn't that expensive to buy. Anyone on minimum wage can buy some sex lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:52 PM
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Educated women who grew up with good values understand there are practical considerations and trade-offs involved. They don't just give in to their animal instincts and get pregnant from Chads without thinking about the long term implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:33 PM
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Go look at some mainstream news articles you fool. I cba to find any. ANYWAY YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT I WAS GETTING AT. Read above. Trump was just an example. Stop being autistic and focusing on Trump. It was an example to demonstrate that if people don't like you, they will criticise any tiny thing you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:28 PM
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Yes. I don't know where you live, but where I'm from, there's a clear difference in the way women of different socioeconomic backgrounds behave. Women from low socioeconomic backgrounds are fine fucking chads and being single mothers. The women who get pumped and dumped by chads and have 3 kids from 3 different fathers are generally not the brightest of women. As women's education levels improve and they are from families that taught them good values, women value having a stable family with a da…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:24 PM
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It proves my point because it's yet another reason for dead bedrooms, which makes it even more likely that the majority of marriages are dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:18 PM
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That's women from low socioeconomic backgrounds. Middle and upper middle class women don't act that way anywhere near as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:17 PM
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The average woman still wants kids, with a dad involved if possible. Childless women are a growing minority but still a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:34 PM
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If it's a representative sample, yes it can be way smaller than that. If it just represents one demographic of woman, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:32 PM
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I don't remember every tiny little thing. Just go read some mainstream media articles attacking Trump for silly things. Anyway end of discussion, I'm not going to get into a political argument with an obvious liberal who has an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:26 PM
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What? You met 20+ girls/guys and your 5-10 same sex friends also had experience with 20+ guys/girls? Well, guess what, that is 0,00000275% of population, 0,000001375% of each sex (yes, I calculated). And based on that, based on such a small number, you all draw such drasting conclusions? When thousands or millions of men gather online and all have very similar or identical experiences with thousands or millions of women, yes you can draw strong and reliable conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:20 PM
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But you just said the reason why. "I didn't want kids then". Most women want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:15 PM
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You get the point I'm making. He did some bad things but he is also attacked for many silly and pointless things that someone like Biden or Obama would get away with. Same principle can be applied to dating. If you're attractive, you can get away with a lot more. If you're ugly, every tiny thing you do is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:12 PM
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Oh. Well I don't know how I can prove it. -shrugs-
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:06 PM
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It's just a hunch, because the OP states that clear data is often not possible on these subjects. However I think it's a pretty good hunch, when you consider all the reasons I posted above. The reason you listed is another reason why most are dead bedrooms and that just further proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:01 PM
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huh??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:58 PM
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But I already do that :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:58 PM
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That's very true, but it's true in all contexts of life. If someone doesn't like you, they'll pick silly things to criticize you or hate you for. Just like the left wing media do with Trump. If someone likes you, they'll let you get away with a lot more stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:20 PM
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For the three women who blew your mind, what did they look like and how did they blow your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:18 PM
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That's because most of them are, lets be honest. Have you seen how miserable most married people are? That is not the sign of someone who is having regular good sex. Not to mention most married men joke about how little sex their wife gives them or they only get blowjobs on special occasions - that tells you all you need to know. Oh and finally, most clients who see escorts are married men. Married men would not have to do that if their wife was giving them regular good sex. Hey, maybe lots of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:06 PM
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If porn was a better alternative than sex, you must be really awful in bed, no offense!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:35 PM
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Depends who caused the dead bedroom and for what reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:34 PM
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Any sex that you have to pay for directly doesn't count. I think it's pretty clear that you use escorts and you're angry that escort sex doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:32 PM
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That is an interesting one. I will include it in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:59 PM
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There are different cultures, but how many people on this subreddit are from Africa? Almost everyone here is from North America or Western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:57 PM
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Wow that is an extensive list there! When you mention penis size, you only talk about length. What about girth?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:55 PM
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Yeah it's sex but you won't get any respect for paying for it. Anyone can do that, it means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:52 PM
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Doesn't count lmao. Anybody can buy it. It only counts when someone actually wants it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:23 PM
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This whole subreddit is filled with personal biases. There is someone in this thread right now saying that because he and his wife have sex and give a shit about each others needs, it must mean that dead bedrooms in marriages are very rare in the world as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:09 PM
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Women want bigger than average in every other metric (height, income, social status and so on), so it's not a stretch to assume that women would want a bigger than average D. Especially as I've heard quite a few women in recent years state their preference for bigger D's.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:06 PM
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I didn't say there were 95% dead bedrooms. I said women cause 95% of dead bedrooms. A bit of reading comprehension wouldn't go amiss! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:59 PM
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All Chads describe themselves as average though, don't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:53 AM
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If they are as varied as the stars, why do women almost always say they want a man the same height or taller than them? Clearly these broad generalisations do work in many instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:51 AM
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I was speaking to another woman on this sub. Don't remember her username, it began with f. Anyway she said "average" is irrelevant. You are either attractive to her or you're not. So it's even simpler than you're suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:05 PM
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Is "game" just an autistic term that red pillers use for social skills and flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:55 PM
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So why does it matter more than looking a certain age in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:10 PM
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jeans/pants would actually fit That's only an issue for people with too much fat/muscle. I also had that problem when I put on muscle. You have to wear jeans that are longer. The clothes makers assume that you get taller and bigger in equal proportion. So yeah, I'm guessing you're quite a large 5'5 woman. No offense! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:45 PM
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You said your real age matters in dating. Therefore by your logic, they can't date younger because their "real age matters". But people their own age don't want them either because they look too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:39 PM
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So by your logic, people who look younger than their age are fucked - they can't date their own age because they look too young, and they can't date a younger age because they are numerically too old. Why are you creating these rules exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:08 PM
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Why would it make every day life easier if you were a 5'11 female?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:59 PM
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So which has the higher chance of producing a short child - short man with tall woman or tall man with short woman? Or are they both the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:07 PM
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I see. I'm going to have to get to the bottom of this. Unless there's a higher chance that a child ends up short if a short man reproduces as opposed to a short woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:00 PM
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Yes there are plenty of such women propagating and the ones who aren't are almost always doing it out of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:53 PM
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Short man, tall woman = short man's genes not good enough to propagate Tall man, short woman = short woman's genes good enough to propagate Even though there's an identical chance for the child to end up short in both cases. How does that work??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:52 PM
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So there are no bad female genes? No matter how ugly, fat, lazy they are, those genes are good enough to propagate? Even though the male version of those genes are not good enough. Doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:43 PM
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What is the point in hypergamy if bad female genes get kept in the gene pool? (as a result of men wanting to fuck any woman with a pulse) Bad male genes aren't propagated but bad female genes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:38 PM
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And for women, it's the reverse of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:42 AM
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How are you picky for looks if you'll bang anything? Doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:37 AM
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Yes I know. Each individual man can only be one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:36 AM
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Shouldn't they say that? Because it's misleading to say "men are more shallow on looks".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:06 AM
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So are you saying that women are projecting their shallowness onto men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:04 AM
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That's what people on PPD say. They will say "men will have sex with anything" then later they will say "men are more shallow on looks". Doesn't make sense. You can only be one or the other, not both.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:46 AM
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When people say "men are more shallow on looks", how do they mean? Men will have sex with anything so that's the opposite of shallow on looks. Unless I'm missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:41 AM
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How are men shallow about looks when they can get turned on by most women's looks anyway? I never understood the logic there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:33 AM
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BMI is too misleading. You can still look good at a BMI which says you're overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:27 AM
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He enjoyed kissing and initiated it, but he's not having sex. Sounds like he had poor sex experiences in the past or has erectile dysfunction. Some men freeze up when a naked woman is in front of them, because it's the first chance they've had in years and might be the only chance they get for another few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:19 AM
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Obviously, but they can produce less and then live minimalist lifestyles without spending anything on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:19 AM
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In that case, men's purpose is far more stressful and taxing than women's purpose. Most women don't even make the home a home lol. If you ever see women's rooms (I've seen a few of them), most of them are a complete pigsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:16 AM
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Carers for old/ill people, primary school teachers (but any idiot can teach primary school lessons. if you know your times tables, you can basically teach primary school kids). Other than that, can't think of any section of society that would collapse if women stopped working. Makeup industry perhaps? Although that's hardly essential. Women do a lot of clerical work and human resources, but businesses could survive without this work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:13 AM
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Male here. What if we men stopped working and women had to pick up all those works? xD I wonder, why would they be not able to do it? Because they are lazy/incompetent/unsuited to this work. Otherwise they would be doing it already. I like this because both women and men have purposes. What's men's purpose and what's women's purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:41 PM
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Do you think these movements like MGTOW and men opting out or just generally producing less output will make a difference in the coming decades?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:30 PM
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Oh dear, you don't want to read the data, you just want to push an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:05 PM
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That's true, but women still rely on men collectively. If men stopped working en masse, our electricity, water and energy systems wouldn't be maintained, meaning society would grind to a halt. Buildings wouldn't be maintained or built, cars and computers wouldn't be maintained or built. Tax revenue would drop substantially because more men work the higher paying, higher skilled jobs. I'm not sure if a society can survive in the long run when you give women more power, yet it still relies on male…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:55 PM
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Fair enough. For women who look after themselves, often you can't tell the difference between a 25 and 35 year old and all the ages in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:40 PM
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I see. Makes you wonder why so many people are having kids so much later then. But as long as neither of you want kids, can bigger age gaps work? Like 20 year age gaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:58 PM
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Damn 10 years older isn't even that much older. 35 year old man, 25 year old woman, they can easily look similar age and maturity levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:21 PM
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That was me, and yes 60 year old men are using their money to buy young women (i.e. sugar daddies). Those young women then become so accustomed to a life where they are given expensive gifts and trips, they ignore the average young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:16 PM
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It's pretty obvious OP listens to way too much Andrew Tate. My upper body is bigger than Andrew Tate's but it doesn't seem to have helped me with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:55 PM
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That's because different women go through menopause at different points. It would have been annoying to say "45 year old women for those who go through menopause, but 50 year old women who have their menopause later". It's extremely risky to have a baby at that age anyway, very few women actually have a baby after that age (in before you post some sources of a few isolated cases of women having babies at that age - yes I said "very few" women). The vast majority of women have decided before thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:33 PM
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So if they're clear what they want but average/below average, is that not good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:08 AM
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So why are you complaining that men don't want to date 45+ women if you don't want them anyway? It goes back to my original post of 45+ women losing their interest in the whole sex and dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:42 PM
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I don't understand what you're trying to say "slap flat any kind of emotion that tentatively wants to grow in a crush"??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:32 AM
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Not really that hard to get laid if you are in places where there are lots of dingle women Where are these dingle women you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:11 AM
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No. 0-2 men struggle far more than 0-2 women. 9-10 men still do worse than 7+ women, maybe even 6+ women, unless it's literally the very top men, like the hottest male celebrities. But those hot male celebrities will still do worse than 8+ or 9+ women. Women just have it easier all round, it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:12 PM
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Read all the other industries that are male dominated as well. Society won't survive without electricity, water and energy. We need structures to be built and maintained otherwise we have nowhere to live. I don't know if you have terrible reading comprehension or you are being intentionally obtuse to try to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:34 PM
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Did you not read again? Here is what I said: There are also plenty of male teachers, male nurses, male doctors, male lawyers and male judges. They would just need to take up more of the workload. Compare that to the vital industries I mentioned which are almost exclusively male. Without electricity, water and energy, nothing functions. And those jobs are filled almost entirely by men. Carers, I'll give you that one, that one appears to be female dominated. But would society collapse without any …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:10 PM
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Ok. You're being pedantic and arguing over silly technicalities. I think you get the point of my original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:59 PM
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Bottom 80% of men obviously. Go set up a dating profile of a very ugly woman if you don't believe me. Bottom barrel women are often fat as well, something which can be fixed. Bottom barrel men are often short and height can't be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:56 PM
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sigh, you lack basic reading comprehension. they obviously exist but in incredibly small numbers and there is no way they could take on the work of all the male engineers if those male engineers suddenly disappeared.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:53 PM
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When you add up those percentages over the course of a year, the chances of pregnancy are still quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:42 PM
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Social media and online dating has opened up our eyes to the fact there is a small genetically elite percentage at the top who are able to have all the fun. Social media was a disaster, because the best looking people in our society now get shoved in our faces all the time, leading to mass amounts of depression, anxiety and mental issues among the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:40 PM
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I'm not talking about limb lengthening. I'm talking about specifically altering your facial bone structure, clavicle width and hip width. I don't believe that is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:27 PM
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So? Men make the best of the situation they are in. They ideally want sex with many different women. They can't get that, so they settle for one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:24 PM
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Obviously 35 is not as prime as 22. It's just an age range where women are generally at their most fertile, give or take. Geez dude, no need to get autistic over the tiny minutiae of the language. I think everyone got the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:43 AM
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He/she is saying that men want sex more than women. By a huge margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:25 AM
1

Even altering bone structure?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:16 AM
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Whenever women are listing things they like in a man (confidence, secure in himself, ambitious, caring etc.), they assume the man is physically attractive to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:13 AM
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I guarantee you can open a dating profile and you'd receive interest from hundreds of men over the course of a few months. You could post some pictures on reddit and you'd get DMs from men or comments telling you you're gorgeous. That is demand. To have the luxury to be able to do that and receive interest from the opposite sex is something almost every male never experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:07 AM
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Men in the past were forced to be slave labourers or fight for war, while the men at the top enjoyed all the benefits of multiple women. Genghis Khan procreated with hundreds or thousands of women. The lower ranked males were forced to fight and labour on his behalf. Those lower ranked males would have liked sex with many women, but they couldn't. Most died without reproducing. These days we have socially enforced monogamy to prevent that. But this is disappearing and we are moving back to a sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:02 AM
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Yes there is impulse control, but if men waited it out for a better option, most men would be virgins for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:56 AM
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If it's that bad for them, maybe it would have been better to stay in their own country? Anyway I'm not referring to those when I talk about sex workers. I'm referring to mostly white, native born women who have the choice to work a normal job. I can go to a popular escort site in my country and see thousands of such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:52 AM
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Someone going through a bad personal life does not have the right to be a complete dick to others. They can also get a job unless there are extreme extenuating circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:16 AM
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https://www.calculators.org/health/ffmi.php 210lbs, 6'0, guessing around 12% body fat if you have abs. that puts you at elite level ffmi, very close to possible steroid use level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:12 AM
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Who am I competing with then? Aliens?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:01 AM
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It's not what they "think" they need. They are going with their bodily desires. Men want sex with as many women as much as possible. Because most men can't get that, porn is the next best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:00 AM
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Since these men are so disgusted why don’t they stop soliciting sex workers and get a woman to sleep with them without pay? Because they can't get that. Most men don't have the luxury of normal women wanting sex with them. You don’t know everyone’s life circumstance to assume they could even get a regular job if they wanted to Where I'm from, you can get jobs in food factories with no qualifications with just a quick phone call to a job agency. In almost all circumstances, people can get a regul…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:53 AM
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I dunno man, when I look on escort sites, I see majority white native women. When men are thinking of buying sex, at least the men on this subreddit, they aren't thinking of going to some dodgy street corner at night to pick up a skank on drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:50 AM
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A lot of mental gymnastics there. The biology is quite clear - men want sex more than women. I feel sorry for people that believe social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:30 AM
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That's a myth. Many are regular western women who have lived there their whole lives. They could get a regular job if they wanted, but they don't because they can make more money doing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:26 AM
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If it's so awful, why don't those women get regular jobs instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:13 AM
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There are also plenty of male teachers, male nurses, male doctors, male lawyers and male judges. They would just need to take up more of the workload. Compare that to the vital industries I mentioned which are almost exclusively male. Without electricity, water and energy, nothing functions. And those jobs are filled almost entirely by men. Carers, I'll give you that one, that one appears to be female dominated. But would society collapse without any carers? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:10 AM
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Of course, if you mean finding any random man attractive, then of course not. Then you don't have a higher sex drive. If you're starving enough, you will eat anything to survive. If you can wait for fine cooked steak, you're not starving. Most men live in a state of starvation when it comes to sex - they will take anything with a pulse that shows them interest, because they are that desperate for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:00 AM
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So that means they don't want sex as much. You're not starving if you're prepared to wait for steak and caviar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:53 PM
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Head over to r/SexWorkers you can see how bitter, angry and vitriolic the sex workers there are. If that's anything to go by, sex workers in the west absolutely detest men and have no respect for them. Whether that's due to feminism, I'm not sure. I got banned from that subreddit for asking a couple of polite questions and got met with nothing but vitriol and bitterness right from the outset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:55 PM
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I'm from the UK, also with legal prostitution, and I agree it makes no difference to anything. I don't understand these American men on this sub who think it is the holy grail and women will en masse change their attitude towards men just because prostitution is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:42 PM
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But I thought according to women on reddit, women want sex just as much as men??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:24 PM
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I am skeptical whether they are half the workforce, given all the welfare they use up. But lets assume they are half the workforce for sake of argument. Even in that case, their jobs are far less essential for keeping society running. Men build the houses, keep our electricity, water and energy systems running, build our computers, build our cars, program our smartphones. They are the backbone of everything. In aggregate, women consume more welfare than they produce in tax revenue. Men produce m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:26 PM
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Men would love to date someone like Jennifer Lopez or Jennifer Aniston, even though they are both in their early 50's. Yes they have had a lot of work done. But the point still stands - if a woman actually puts effort into how she looks and doesn't get fat (something 18-35 women mostly do, but something 45+ women mostly don't do), they would be happy to date them. And get rid of the entitlement too, that's unattractive. You're 45 years old, not 20 anymore. Conclusion: look after your appearance,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:40 PM
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Yeah I know, but that other person is saying the opposite, which is why I'm pretty sure that person is trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:21 PM
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The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women. The problem is that men are still responsible for the vast majority of economic output, tax income and essential services. Societies that empower women and cause more men to go without relationships and sex, but at the same time rely on male labour in order to survive, will inevitably collapse. This third wave feminism and liberalism of the west is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:15 PM
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Interesting how I've seen profiles of ugly girls used as catfish who get tons of interest, including that pigwoman experiment. Anyway I'm almost certain you're trolling at this point, so good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:40 PM
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Although, I disagree with your assertion that women can "get sex as easy as breathing." You think I can just walk up to any man and say "let's fuck" and he'll be like "okay"...? Yes you can. They've done social experiments on this on youtube. The few times a man said no, it was because he had a girlfriend or he thought she was joking. Conversely when it was a man asking a woman, the women all said no. Even if you're not brave enough to do that, a dating app would work just as easily. The bottom …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:06 PM
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"I want sex at 45, therefore the fact that most women don't want sex at 45 is not true" Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds? I even said at the beginning exceptions exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:46 PM
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Doesn't seem to stop the poorest in society having the most kids and the richest having the fewest kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:57 PM
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It all adds up. When you combine the number of women who go for sugar daddies + the number of women who are sex workers (I include Instagram models, cam girls, onlyfans girls in all of that), you are looking at a decent portion of 18-35 women taken off the market. These numbers have increased over the last 15 years and I'm sure they will increase further. There are nowhere near enough 18-35 men who are sugar babies or sex workers to offset that, meaning the men these women would have had a norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:35 PM
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That doesn't sound like a female only problem. So basically there are none! :'D Women have the same rights as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:20 PM
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That's not the reason why they haven't formed cohorts. They haven't formed them because internet sites shut them down and in the real world police will shut them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:57 AM
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What rights do men have that women don't have in the US and other western nations?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:46 AM
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I've said this before, but then you always get people who say: "women care about character and money and status, their sexuality is more complex than that" "women can't get aroused just by looking at a random man in public or a random picture of a man online, they need context" "women require emotional stimulus to feel turned on by a man"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:25 AM
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Gaslighting seems to be a common problem in this subreddit sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:50 AM
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It gets worse too, because every generation these days is having less children than the previous generation. So you always have a larger number of older men competing for a smaller number of younger women, as well as the younger men who also have to compete for those younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:36 AM
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Women can get sex as easy as breathing, so women's sexlessness is irrelevant to any discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:32 AM
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That's all true, but the difference is you CAN get taught and you CAN get experience, by visiting escorts. It would be expensive but it's possible. There are also many good guides online these days of how to give a woman oral, how to kiss a woman and so on. So there's no excuse to be completely clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:23 AM
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Weren't you also the guy who said he struggled to put on muscle and got sick from eating just 2200 calories a day? Or maybe that was someone else, not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:56 PM
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Well if all 45+ women immediately offered themselves for sex with any willing man, it would make somewhat of a difference. Wouldn't you agree? The fact that women of this age mostly lose their interest in sex, whereas men of this age are still horny, it skews things a bit. If a 25 year old man could get some guaranteed sex with a 55 year old woman for little/no effort, he'd probably stop caring so much about pursuing younger women. Which would free up the demand for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:52 PM
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Thanks! But I don't understand why so many people are disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:01 PM
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Once again, you're mixing up cause and effect. Average men aren't struggling because they hold these views. They struggled initially, and then tried to find answers, and now they hold these views due to their struggles. The huge growth of red pill, mgtow and incels all demonstrate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:57 PM
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There probably is no realistic solution sadly, which is why most red pillers say "enjoy the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:54 PM
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The women on this sub are friggin 40+ years old for the most part! Look at the subreddit overlap, it's almost all post-wall women posting on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:51 PM
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Everythings the same for you because you're a woman obviously. Gosh how ignorant can you be. The growth in the red pill, mgtow and incels in the last 10 years should tell you that it's affecting huge numbers of males.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:46 PM
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I don't live my life via a screen. But a whole world out there where people ignore you? Go into any major city like London, no one even talks to anyone. I don't see how anyone can make interactions with others when everyone in the real world is cold and unfriendly and it's all about how much status, money, good looks you have and other shallow things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:21 PM
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So why did sexlessness go up from 10% to 30% in 10 years? Did huge numbers of men just magically become losers in the space of 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:14 PM
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Well that makes it even worse then! 20-25% of women have had their sex drives killed off by medication. I doubt there is 20-25% of men also on these drugs to offset that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:09 PM
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Yeah but it's not going to be an average man she's doing it with. Women who are using sugar daddies are leveraging their beauty for the highest bidder. No way would they be having sex with some average young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:08 PM
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Yeah that's basically what I said. But I included sugar daddies, women choose career or sex work over being with men, and old women who have always had little desire for sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:05 PM
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Probably because you grew up in a time when social media wasn't around. These things have only been prevalent for the last 10 years or so. Really the last 7 years, since Instagram and dating apps needed some time to establish themselves. TikTok also came about only in 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:55 PM
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Exactly, and when large numbers of women think like you do, that's just one of the reasons why sexlessness has gone up for young men so much. You have so much choice, you'd rather pick the very best man or just remain single. You remaining single means there is a man out there who has to beat his meat to porn instead of having sex with a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:49 PM
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He has to worry about a 60 year old using his money to buy young women. When you've got a rich sugar daddy giving you gifts and holidays in exchange for a few sexual favours, a lot of women would find that offer hard to turn down. That's why SeekingArrangements has seen such massive growth over the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:41 PM
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Why else do you think sexlessness rates tripled over 10 years and red pill and mgtow have grown substantially? Must be a reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:38 PM
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I didn't say some won't have strong sex drives and desire to date, but large numbers of them barely have a sex drive. A lot of this will be due to having kids. Menopause screws with women's desire for sex too and women go through menopause generally between 45 and 55. It sounds like your GF still hasn't hit menopause yet, but watch out for when she does - her sex drive might drop to nothing. That's why this sub is filled with 40+ year old women saying sex doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:35 PM
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They are real options if you bothered to talk to them. This shows you how disposable men are to women. They look down on all these options as unworthy and insignificant "why is this average male scrote even daring to say hello to me, I am a queen, I deserve prince charming!!!" - they don't say this out loud, but subconsciously this is what is happening in their brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:28 PM
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I don’t know what 45+ women giving up on dating has to do with young (18-30) men not getting laid though. It’s not like those two groups traditionally dated each other. Only rarely do they fuck each other. It all adds to the problem. Older men can't date those age ranges when most of them don't even have a desire for sex or dating anymore, so they must go down to younger age groups of women. ​ If I were divorced I imagine I would probably be alone for good, and I’ve made my peace with that. Yes …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:25 PM
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They probably don't tell you it's happening. Getting 50 messages in 1 week for a woman on online dating or 10 DMs from horny men on Instagram is nothing to them. They consider it as normal as eating or breathing. So that's why they won't tell you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:18 PM
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This is marriage you're talking about - those rates are also dropping. The figures are quite clear that more and more young men are getting cut out of dating and sex - during their prime physical ages when they are most horny and most want to date. They are seeking out communities like red pill and mgtow - these communities have grown massively in the last 10 years. I believe MGTOW didn't even exist 10 years ago. Red pill was in its infancy stage. Now red pill channels on youtube have hundreds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:16 PM
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That's with top 10% of men though. Men's experiences are with 100% of women. Huge difference. Ahhh "seek therapy", another classic shaming tactic that gets used on reddit. It's up there with "misogynist" and "incel".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:49 PM
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You don't need a load of fancy economics jargon to say that men want sex more than women lol. "Just become a top 10% man bro!!!" Top 10% is largely reserved for those with the best genetics. You can't tell a guy "just grow taller bro" "just get a better looking face bro". These things are impossible. Gaining muscle will only get you so far and the process is so damn slow, you won't have a good body until you've left college anyway. You can take steroids to speed up the process but that ends in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:49 AM
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Well you try having sex with a fat women when you have a 4 inch vs 8 inch dick. I think you'll find there's a big difference. The former will have big trouble in many positions, the latter will do just fine. Fat women do need bigger dicks just from a practical point of view (because of all the fat around their lower regions) and I've heard many fat women state that preference before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:24 AM
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The Red Pill and MGTOW is precisely that - huge numbers of men with similar or identical experiences with a wide range of women, finding patterns in female behaviour. When millions of men have similar or identical experiences, you can generalise about women to a large extent. Unless you're invalidating the experience of millions of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:21 AM
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Oh dear, you don't even understand what the 80/20 rule is! It's not about virginity. Why create a thread about the 80/20 rule when you don't even know what it refers to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:12 AM
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Can societies work in the long run when they pedastalize women and give women a lot of power, but they still rely on men in order to function? I'm not sure if societies have always been like this, but it seems like most western societies are like this at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:41 PM
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Well good for you, but men are not a monolith. I couldn't instantly get hard from a woman appearing naked in front of me. That's kind of weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:29 PM
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Oh dear, if that's how they think, no wonder they get offended! Men are more complex than that. Just showing up is not enough to get a man instantly hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:25 PM
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I don't think you give men enough credit! They are very understanding and accommodating of women's needs for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:19 PM
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Offensive that 1 man couldn't get turned on by her? I can accept if women can't get turned on by me. Not sure why they can't accept the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:16 PM
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I don't know if they get blue balls, but I wouldn't recommend getting a woman very wet and aroused and then not having sex/not being able to get it up. They lose their minds, get really angry, think you're not attracted to them, and probably won't want to see you again. When women get fully turned on, it's like they turn into different people. For that brief moment, all they can think about is having your dick inside them and that's what they must have at that very moment. Men can get hard and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:09 PM
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But why aren't fat men desired anywhere? Please show me some proof somewhere that women find fat men attractive en masse. They like tall men quite clearly. Not fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:34 PM
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That doesn't mean his body is not unremarkable. Top 25% means nothing. I can guarantee a lot of the incels are top 25% as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:21 PM
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So like a 5 year commitment and then dispose of him for another man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:15 PM
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You won't find one, you're right. I don't know why that other poster is in such denial that women aren't attracted to fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:10 PM
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I see. Well you kind of proved my point that women don't always date with the intention of marriage! Because you say they want to have fun if the men can too. I don't know if there's anything wrong with that as such, but it is clearly the way society is heading in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:40 PM
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That's true. It's impossible to get too muscular as a natural. Even with steroids, most people would have to do several cycles with high dosages to get too big.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:36 PM
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Lean and lanky is unremarkable lol. Sounds like your husband is skinny fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:34 PM
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Yeah, so like I said, men are less picky but that doesn't mean their tastes are more varied. Actually by definition it does mean that. Just look at online dating, where we have vast swathes of men who get virtually nothing and a small percentage who get the pick of hundreds of women. Maybe but that's probably because there aren't many women that watch porn in the first place. So porn that does cater to them goes for the safest option - a healthy man. Most men watch porn so it caters to each of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:31 PM
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Women wouldn't kick an Instagram fitness influencer out of bed and virtually all of them are on roids!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:21 PM
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Men who just swim, run and do decent cardio have unremarkable bodies. To get a decent body, you need to do resistance training i.e. weights. Even a lot of women understand this, which is why I see a decent number of women doing weights and even going in the free weights area, which is traditionally thought of as the "male area" of the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:11 PM
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Attractive or not = superior genetics. We can dress it up in polite terms, but that's what it all boils down to. Otherwise they would value the hard work that men put in, which they clearly don't judging by my original post!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:55 PM
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How can you not be serious about getting better if it's taking up all your time and energy and causing high stress? That's the opposite of not being serious! Ok great but the original question is about women. I asked why do women say these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:39 PM
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Fair enough. I guess "listening" also means posting on online forums where it's anonymous. Strange how those women were saying those things when the FDS subreddit was public for men to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:34 PM
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This mostly happens when women are drunk and can happen to any reasonably ok looking man if the woman is drunk enough. Alcohol makes women act horny. It brings their sex drive temporarily closer to a man's level. I have heard women say that they find men attractive who would otherwise be invisible to them if she was sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:30 PM
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But this is an anonymous online forum, why can't they say they want a man with superior genetics? There is no social implications to doing that, it's anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:21 PM
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So does this mean if self improvement is taking up all your time and energy and making you very stressed, that it's a waste of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:18 PM
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Men wanting to fuck anything doesn't mean they have more varied tastes. Yes, there were men willing to fuck the pigwoman but you're delusional if you think she was anyone's preference and that any man would choose her over a younger, slimmer girl. I can agree that men have lower standards but not that they have varied tastes. I'm sure your ideal woman would have traits I described in another post. Of course men and women have an ideal. The difference is that men will still be happy with dropping…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:12 PM
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Does anyone notice that women will say: "stop being fat, lazy, playing video games and watching porn. go to the gym, get a job and self improve" But then when you do that, they will say: "I don't like a man with muscles, I prefer skinny men" "men who spend all their time in the gym are unattractive" "well done, you have a job like every adult out there. congratulations for being a basic functioning human being" Why do they do this? They tell you to improve, then they say that what you've improve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:07 PM
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Everyone arguing against this doesn't understand biology. I'm amazed in this day and age, there are people stupid enough to believe in social constructs. Biology is biology. If men didn't have extremely varied tastes in women, the human race would have died out a long time ago. We can thank men's varied tastes and desire to fuck anything for keeping the human race alive for this long.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:56 PM
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Must be why men want to fuck absolutely anything, including pigwoman. But hey, you keep telling yourself women have more varied tastes! I don't see any porn with obese men in it to cater to women's tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:33 PM
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Confident but short and/or ugly men are seen as over-compensating and usually creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:32 PM
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If you're a straight man, any country you go to, you're going to perceive that you're "serving the female imperative." Going to countries where they actually expect virgin brides so you can "see where it goes" with the local women is borderline cruel. Well if that's the case (not saying it is the case, but let's assume it's true for sake of argument), may as well go to a country where the women are cheaper and have better attitudes. It's very noticeable the difference in attitude between women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:25 PM
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A genuine stalker is quite creepy, but women usually blow these things way out of proportion. A guy who just looks at them a few times in the gym between doing his workout is deemed a "stalker" these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:45 PM
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Never seen that myself. You mean a man literally following a woman everywhere she goes during the whole day? Like if she walks into a shop, he will go into that same shop, when she leaves, he will leave at the exact same time? Doing that for the entire day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:37 PM
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I can feel threatened by a lot of men too, as a man. Even some aggressive women have felt threatening to me. Not sure this is a woman only problem. But if you're threatened all the time by random strangers in broad daylight, you probably have bigger issues that you need to address, like social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:30 PM
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I had a woman rub my dick, kind of aggressively, and I asked her to stop. She got deeply offended and said "I've never had someone say that to me before". Women think men can get instantly hard and any sort of aggressive rubbing and sucking is pleasurable. :'D
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:28 AM
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I got messaged by a woman just yesterday. She said that women have it harder because of: - the pay gap - rape - abortion - they feel unsafe and threatened around men all the time (she said one time a man "followed her in broad daylight") I wasn't sure whether she was trolling. The last point surely has to be a joke. The first point has been debunked numerous times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:11 AM
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Because there is always some idiot who takes it the wrong way when you criticize women, so you always have to add that disclaimer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:02 AM
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And strangely, it's always the most privileged, college educated, middle/upper middle class women who act this way the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:58 AM
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I've heard that it decreases testosterone, increase estrogen and basically turns you into more of a woman. But if there were no bad side effects, yes I would take it. As for how it would affect society, birth rates would drop even further I would imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:30 AM
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Bigger is usually better, up to a point. Fat women need bigger dicks because of all the fat around their vagina area, which is why you'll often hear fat women say they prefer larger dicks. There are also porn stars who even admit that bigger dicks are better. Janet Mason being one of them. So it's surprising that more everyday women don't admit this as well. If a woman is a virgin, only experienced small dicks or never used a large dildo, she won't have any reference point. But yeah, the saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:26 AM
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Sigh, it's obvious you're trying to shame men to stay in their own country and serve the female imperative. If they want to travel to a different country to explore their sexuality and options, let them. I'm curious to know if you're a woman and how old you are? I'm guessing you're a woman in her mid 30's or older. So no surprise you hold this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:32 PM
0

Maybe it doesn't work out to be the ideal situation, but you're missing the point: it's better than the situation he's currently in of being totally invisible to women in his own country. If he can only fuck prostitutes in Asia, so be it. At least prostitutes over there are dirt cheap for a westerner. So again, it's a better situation than the one he's currently in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:27 PM
4

Better to at least try. If they're getting no success in their own country, the worst that can happen is they also get zero success elsewhere. Or do you want them to turn into depressive incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:21 PM
4

If you can't see this is the case, then you're truly brainwashed and proving OP's point!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:19 PM
0

Women date for more than marriage lmao, which is why most women in the west aren't even looking to settle down till their 30's. Nah most guys are putting in effort. If you're still invisible after putting in reasonable effort, better to cut your losses and move abroad where the women are higher quality, cheaper and you won't be invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:16 PM
6

Who says anything about marrying? You can go to these countries, try to date casually and find sex. If a woman wants you to marry her, say no and move on to someone who doesn't want that. If all the women in that country expect marriage, find a different country to go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:51 PM
0

Why is it sexist to say the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:44 PM
4

I'm not talking about marriage, I'm talking about general interest from women. If you've not got any interest (I mean SEXUAL interest) from women by your mid 20's, it's highly unlikely to change after that point. If a man has reached that point, he's better off finding a different country with women who might be interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:40 PM
8

No one said it's an ideal situation, but if an average western man has reached his mid 20's and he has been utterly invisible to women his whole life and got jack shit from online dating, it's probably best for him to move country. If you're a white westerner, just your skin colour alone will get you noticed by women in places like Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:26 PM
1

Tripling in 10 years is a big spike, whichever way you look at it, and there's no suggestion it's gone down. And no man is sexless "by choice" unless he is devoutly religious. Never heard such nonsense in my life!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:16 PM
1

It's at 30%, pretty significant I would say, and no doubt risen since the study was done over 3 years ago. Also it only included those who didn't have sex for a year or more. Some could be having sex once every 10 months, which is still effectively sexless, but isn't included in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:57 PM
3

Must be why the male sexlessness rate tripled in 10 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:45 PM
2

Those are just the men who are prepared to voice their struggles with dating. The majority won't voice their struggles, but they're still going through exactly what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:44 AM
1

Just search for the videos where men are physically/emotionally abused in public vs women are physically/emotionally abused in public. People will come and rush to the protection of the woman. People will sit back and laugh at the man under their breath. Then the videos where women cry in public vs men cry in public. People will immediately come up to the woman, ask what's wrong, comfort her. People will look at the man weirdly and think he's a creep, with someone occasionally coming up to him, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:30 AM
1

They're more attracted to the end product, no matter how you achieved it. They wait at the finish line and pick the winners. If that means you inherited all your wealth and status, that doesn't matter to them. They don't care about hard work, only the end product.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:08 AM
5

Why do so many people on this subreddit fall for apex fallacy when it comes to men? Whenever they say "well men do X, men get away with Y, men hold Z amount of the wealth and power", they are always referring to the top 5-10% of men, sometimes even as high as the top 1% of men. They fail to distinguish that the other 90-99% of men have a vastly different experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:04 AM
2

Apex fallacy once again. I'm amazed so many people in this sub fall for it. You're looking at the top 1-5% of men and thinking that applies to all men. Only a small fraction of men hold the wealth and power. But do they really have power? There's been books on this. "The Myth of Male Power" I think it was called.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:53 AM
1

Ok. And one final question - have any of these trends of a collapse been happening for the last 10 years? Like have we seen lower economic output or big real world societal changes from 10 years ago that can be attributed to men opting out? (10 years ago is about the time Instagram, Tinder and similar things came about)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:21 PM
1

Please read what I write. Women are helped by both men and women. Men are helped by no one. If equality really existed, men would be helped equally to women, but that's never the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:12 PM
1

All I hear is waaaah complaining when western women live the most privileged lives on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:11 PM
1

Ok. Is that because men will stop producing as much because women don't respect them and stay single for longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:40 PM
2

The study is outdated - it's actually got WORSE since then. The last studies I saw on Tinder, you're effectively wasting your time if you're not in the top 10% of men. That's worse than the top 20% for the OKCupid study. I won't be surprised if that number goes up to 5% of men in the future, if it isn't there already.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:25 PM
2

If a female doesn't want to give you her body, she doesn't want to give any other part to you either. That's why incels have no female friends and no female interactions whatsoever. Females interact with men who they consider attractive. They give time and attention to men they deem attractive. They give nothing to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:55 PM
1

This "collapse" everyone talks about, when and how will we know it has happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:32 PM
1

but those good looking men wouldn't want to be seen in public with those ugly fat girls. this results in those girls getting bitter and taking out their anger on average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:35 PM
1

Strange how the red pill tells guys to go monk mode, lift weights, learn game and make money, then you'll be fucking young hot girls when you're in your late 30's, 40's and 50's. Is that all nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:44 PM
1

The career ladder or social ladder or some other ladder?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:03 PM
2

I responded to someone who was talking about her looks. I was still called an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:02 PM
-1

I mean look at all the ways women have socially manipulated society these days. They've reframed the whole idea around obesity, where it's now considered socially unacceptable to "shame" a woman for being grossly obese. We must now celebrate morbid female obesity (not male obesity though, that's still shamed).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:50 PM
1

The internet used to be a place where primarily nerds hung out, back in the 90's and 00's, even the very early 2010's. Once smartphones became commonplace around 2011/12 and Instagram, Tinder and similar sites were created, it brought in more of the masses. And the masses are generally stupid people who operate on their base animal instincts. Hence why social media is full of sex. But not just sex - images of dogs and cats seem to be very popular too. It's hard to avoid but can be avoided if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:08 AM
-2

It's a social manipulation tactic. They will reframe their own selfish entitled desires in a way that puts the blame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:53 AM
20

Yes. Which is strange why people on this subreddit say that sex doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:47 AM
1

Ok. Well maybe you should try that. You might have decent genetics and able to force feed yourself. It just sounded bad how you're only 116lbs and get sick by eating 2200kcal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:32 AM
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When someone gets highly emotional, they reveal their true thoughts and feelings, because they are in a fight-or-flight state and their body reacts instinctively. If a woman is calling a man an incel when she is in a highly emotional state, it shows that getting sex for a man is hugely important and his ability (or lack of ability) to get it determines his worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:11 AM
1

I sympathize with women's issues, I just point out the logical inconsistencies in them. For example, they are "concerned about their safety" when meeting men, yet that concern for safety goes out the window when the man is hot enough. They want to be taken more seriously in professional environments and not have everyone judge them on their looks, yet they dress provocatively and wonder why they aren't taken seriously. See what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:02 AM
1

But most people in this sub don't understand that. You play by a different set of rules if you're attractive and/or high status* and/or mega rich, compared to if you're none of these things. The red pill guys generalize everyone into one category and think all men should adopt the exact same strategy across the board. *By high status, I don't mean doctor or lawyer. I mean celebrity, politician, athlete or other high level public figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:54 AM
1

Also another point - you are starting out at only 116lbs. If another man starts out at 140lbs (assuming you've got roughly equal body fat and roughly equal height), he will probably end up with 20lbs or more of extra muscle than you, once you've both reached your genetic limits. Because he's starting from a higher base. It's better to start from a higher base (assuming that higher base isn't just a load of excess fat). Many of the greatest top bodybuilders, top NFL players etc. started out quite…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:48 AM
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It's not just women who say it. Men will call you incels too. I got called an incel in r/tennis the other day because I said Emma Raducanu "wasn't that attractive" and it's her posh British accent that makes people like her. The person saying that was male because he admitted he was male later in the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:07 AM
1

Men don't help other men. Men are on their own. Women always have help from both men and women. That's how it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:49 AM
1

Damn, that's below the recommended amount an adult man should eat per day (2.5kcal) and you're struggling with that? Not sure what to say! :P I'm eating almost 3000kcal per day right now and don't feel as if I'm stuffing myself to the point of sickness. I eat 3-4 meals per day. Try drinking shakes when you're thirsty, that could help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:11 PM
1

But how many kcal are you eating right now per day?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:04 PM
1

You don't necessarily "get your stuff taken from you". You might do, you might not. It's a risk. But no one really knows what will happen in your specific situation, it depends on too many factors, like the quality of woman you pick, how your life develops, how her life develops and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:03 PM
1

How many calories are you eating per day? You shouldn't need to stuff your face to build muscle and if you do, you're probably just going to put on a lot of fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:56 PM
1

Are you a gay dude? Trans? Feels like you're not a female, so I just wasted my time talking to you thinking that you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:41 PM
1

I’d rather a guy play video games that way I can suck his dick at the same time Erm, are you really female? Never heard a female say such a thing before lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:27 PM
1

Why would random people on reddit care about keeping the capitalist wheels turning? Only personal trainers, gyms and supplement companies care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:15 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:14 PM
1

Well if this is the body you get after 15 years in the gym and it's "meh" to you, then there's no point in going to the gym for self improvement, like is always recommended in this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:09 PM
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Spend years improving in these areas, and then you might get the fat landwhale who didn't have to do anything? :D Not to mention most of those areas are so damn vague (wtf is "self assurance"?? could mean anything to anyone).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:05 PM
1

Why would I want to be with a man who spends all his time in the gym? Oh dear, just like I thought - you're utterly clueless on the subject! You can build muscle on as little as 2 hours a week in the gym. 2-4 hours a week is optimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:49 PM
1

I'm not sure what I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:46 PM
1

Well good to know there is little/nothing a man can do to improve his physical attractiveness! Some good clothes, that's about it. Rest is genetics. At least according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:41 PM
1

Is that the 3rd picture? That's not him. 4th picture down is him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:36 PM
1

But self improvement is all about hitting the gym and lifting weights to put on muscle, right? That's what everyone here recommends and that's what he's done. Now you're saying he looks stupid. May as well not waste 15 years of effort in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:30 PM
1

He's not short, he's 6 foot tall. Shows how much you know!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:27 PM
1

Oh right. I go years without that stimulation. Women would lose their minds if that happened to them. Most of them were crying during coronavirus lockdowns because they couldn't see someone for 1 week.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:26 PM
1

His photos look generally fine to me. Unless by shit, you mean not using filters, perfect lighting and all the other tricks that people use these days to fool you. You've clearly fallen for all the shit that gets posted on Instagram. Most of what you see on Instagram isn't even real these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:14 PM
2

Ok. So why don't more guys turn into incels? At least incels realize the hopeless situation they are in. Seems like most guys don't recognize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:12 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/ross.newham/ This guy has been lifting weights in the gym for 15-16 years. Natural, never taken any steroids. He has "self improved" to basically his maximum. So is this attractive to women? If not, then we shouldn't tell guys to self improve if years of working hard like this won't make a difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:04 PM
1

Well have you ever done natural bodybuilding? It just doesn't look as impressive when you're natural, especially with below average genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:58 PM
1

I don't know what that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:38 PM
1

Ok. It's amazing that more men don't become incels. At least incels recognize the hopeless situation they're in. Would you agree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:32 PM
2

Because different men have to play by different rules. If you're attractive, you don't need to be friends first. If you're average, you're forced to be friends first for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:32 PM
1

What does it smell like when a woman is ovulating? I guess I have to go to a sex site and buy some used underwear to find out :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:22 PM
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I feel like as a man if you want to see what your standing is in the dating market. Make a tinder and see the results. The vast majority of men get little/no results off Tinder. Then they're told to date in real life because you can get much better results there. But now you're saying Tinder success has a very high correlation to real life dating success. Therefore most men are f*cked by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:16 PM
1

I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:16 PM
1

Create a social movement to force society to accept short men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:43 PM
1

No, they happen to men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:41 PM
1

Fair enough, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:39 PM
2

They say that the smell of a person (their "pheromones") is one of the key ways that make us decide if we want sex with someone. Is there any way to know what kind of pheromones you are attracted to, or is it just trial and error of being with as many women as possible before you find someone who you like the smell of?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:44 PM
3

When average non-educated people hear the term bodybuilder, they immediately assume the huge jacked 300lb guys to step on stage and look like freaks and spend 3 hours in the gym every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:30 PM
1

You need to take steroids and other drugs to get to that level of ripped. It's no longer possible to be impressive as a natural lifter, too many men take drugs that its impossible to compete if you're a natural with average genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:28 PM
3

Diet is made out to be harder than it is. You just need 4 good sized meals with protein in them. Everyone eats a breakfast, lunch and dinner already. Throw in one extra meal, which can be a protein shake with some nuts/seeds and a piece of fruit, you already have 4 meals. What's hard about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:23 PM
1

Option A - unless you've got the genetics of an Instagram fitness influencer and take steroids, it's probably a waste of time to do bodybuilding to get women in the west. Option B is the route most men take. But they don't "stack cash", they get a decent paying job, as far as their skills allow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:18 PM
5

A problem that can be fixed or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:20 AM
7

Why, do you think any man out there can ALWAYS find a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:59 AM
2

Ok, but a man who looks like that is never going to be considered attractive to women. I can't ever imagine a situation where a man loses a lot of weight, has excess skin and women think he looks sexy. Women understand this, which is why so many of them are grossly overweight these days, yet still expect princess treatment. Because they have men blowing up their DMs telling them how beautiful they are even when they're morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:48 AM
2

Probably just avoid the subject with him. Height is an unfortunate subject because it's something you can't change beyond getting some lifts in your shoes. If you look at most short men, they have to compensate in some other way. At least fat women can change their weight, they're just too lazy to and expect others to accept them for how they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:36 AM
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What's the alternative though? The alternative is to turn into nihilistic incels who have no hope. And everywhere censors incels, shames them and tries to shut down their conversations. So what are men supposed to do? Can't win if they are realistic about their dating situation, can't win if they are optimistic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:26 AM
2

That's my point - men have to meet a higher threshold for physical attractiveness or have a great paying job to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:06 PM
1

Because for men, getting sex (without paying a hooker) is equivalent to climbing Mount Everest. For women, getting sex is as easy as breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:59 PM
1

"But they can't do much to improve their given attractiveness, beyond makeup/surgery/clothes" Er that's a lot of ways to improve your attractiveness. Makeup can transform your face into a different person. Look at the youtube videos of makeup transformations if you don't believe me. It's a quick fix too. Takes max 1 hour to do. 30 minutes if you're quick at it, 2 hours if you're especially slow. Compare that to years or decades of working out in the gym and building your wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:07 PM
2

So the idea that men only care about good looks is nonsense. They have such a wide variety of tastes, you can look like virtually anything as a woman and will always get a decent level of male interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:21 PM
0

Men don't "just give a woman confidence". They are not like women in that regard. They are thinking with their dick. They find her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:01 PM
0

But look at all those comments saying she is stunning and beautiful, which are almost certainly all from men. What do you think of that? Men don't have any standards for female beauty. Anything is beautiful to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:57 PM
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Because I highly highly doubt women would waste their time searching for a sub called "chubbytummies", find a random thread and all pretend to be men. Just face it that these are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:54 PM
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You're taking the men in this sub too literally. Of course they want more than sex. They want validation, appreciation, a girlfriend who loves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:46 PM
2

It's so tragic that a woman who looks like this (warning: NSFW link): https://www.reddit.com/r/Chubbytummies/comments/v95b0l/first_time_posting_this_please_be_kind/ Can get almost 20 comments from men in just 1 day saying how gorgeous and stunning she looks. If that doesn't show you that male standards for female beauty are incredibly low, I don't know what does. "But but but men only care about looks" You can look like this and still get men interested in you. The male equivalent of this would …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:43 PM
1

Women are so obsessed with good dick that they will knowingly start a relationship with someone abusive who treats them like sh*t and then cry "where are all the good men?" "why won't men step up to the plate?" later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:05 PM
2

The standards are at an all time low for the men they already consider attractive. That's what they mean. The 6'3 handsome badboy just has to show up and that is good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:33 AM
5

Yeah. Is there anything inherently wrong with that? Oh right, so it's just par for the course to advertise your almost naked body to other men while you're in an exclusive relationship. It doesn’t imply that at all. Posting pictures is not the same as making a Tinder profile. It does imply that and even if you think it doesn't, the men you are advertising to think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:30 AM
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Because it's essentially advertising to other men "hey boys, look at my body, my nice big booty, come and get a piece of this if you meet my high standards!!!". They're not actually saying this, but it's implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:14 AM
0

With all due respect, could you please address the point being made rather than deflect. I notice a lot of women on this subreddit do that and it's very infuriating. I'm not sure why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:51 AM
4

Does anyone feel like if women were genuinely honest about what they found attractive in men (not lied, not virtue signaled, not avoided the question), society would collapse pretty quickly? For current society to function, it feels like the majority of men have to be in the dark about women's true preferences. Otherwise those men stop producing the things that matter for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:42 AM
1

Swipe on all of them, then unmatch the ones you don't want later. Start conversations with 1 or 2 of them. It's not that hard lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:33 AM
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You must have been the only woman there who did and your post must have been buried way at the bottom, which shows that the vast majority of reddit women upvote the comments which say it's acceptable to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:31 AM
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The fact you don't think it's wrong is worrying. And you would care if it impacted you, which is the sad part of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:43 AM
5

How much less could you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:31 AM
5

Of course people are getting laid. But the ones who are getting laid aren't coming to online forums to write "field reports" that sound like masturbation material for a porn fantasy.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/22 04:29 AM
1

But the more secure attachment you've gotton from your parents in childhood, the less you will seek it later in life through external means. Interesting. Now that's another good way I can spot women with dysfunctional families. It's alarming that so many women have red flags that indicate their parents were awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:21 AM
3

Or the woman will say "he's not entitled to know my social media, that's my business only". A lot of men are clueless that their girlfriend even does this. But if the man knew she did this beforehand, I guess it's his fault if he enters a relationship and then doesn't like what she's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:16 AM
3

Good point! But what if the man didn't know she did this beforehand, because she didn't show him her social media? That's what often happens. The woman will do it behind his back and he won't even realize she has a social media she is doing this on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:12 AM
8

Photos clearly showing off your butt that can be viewed and commented on by thousands of men. If that isn't advertising, I'm not sure what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:02 AM
5

Yeah I don't understand that either. If you're so happy and secure, why feel the need to advertise it to the world all the time? Too many people looking for validation and approval from others - this is true for women more than men it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:55 AM
6

I was reading the thread entitled "what do you think of women who post sexy pictures on social media while in a relationship?". I'm shocked that all the women say it's either "fine" or "maybe the man likes it" (which is rarely ever true) or you should feel "confident" or "celebrate how you look". No woman saying it's awful or disrespectful or advertising yourself to other men is wrong. So basically, women condone posting sexy photos online that thousands of other men can view, even if you're in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:47 AM
1

I'm shocked that all the women here say it's either "fine" or "maybe the man likes it" (which is rarely ever true) or you should feel "confident" or "celebrate how you look". No woman saying it's awful or disrespectful or advertising yourself to other men is wrong. So basically, women condone posting sexy photos online that thousands of other men can view, even if you're in an exclusive relationship haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:34 AM
2

Clearly you haven't read the subreddit recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:45 PM
2

Oh yeah I guess you can put toilet paper on it instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:39 PM
1

Not even when the toilet seat looks dirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:37 PM
1

But aren't you concerned by the germs on a public toilet seat? Maybe it's a young woman thing and old women don't squat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:35 PM
2

Because I've seen it in many real life situations and in many social experiments on youtube. Men having difficulties = women ignore, most likely find the men pathetic, weird and creepy. Women having difficulties = women help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:33 PM
1

Question for women here: Do you always hover over the toilet seat when you're using a public toilet and does every woman you know do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:26 PM
2

I mean that if you take a woman and a man with identical struggles, a woman will always sympathize with the woman, never the man. Unless the man is specifically a close family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:19 PM
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Fair enough. I just wonder why there's so much virtue signaling on social media to "be kind" "treat others with respect" and so on, when that clearly doesn't happen in reality. Women actively avoid men with struggles, shame them, say it's their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:03 PM
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It's changed a lot. The red pill used to be about self improvement. Now the red meat and red pill rage channels on youtube are the most popular (eg. Fresh and Fit, Darius M, Taylor The Fiend). Seems like most guys would prefer to see dumb instagram/tiktok thots get "exposed" and the youtube channel creators are catering to that demand. As far as this subreddit goes, it's become too far removed from reality. The field reports sound like guys acting out their porn fantasies "6ft3 jacked ripped mus…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/22 05:43 PM
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It's probably a mixture of a biological reaction and socialization. You would rather go up and start a conversation with a woman who is on her own than a man who is on his own (assuming both are in a public space with people around, so there's clearly no danger to safety).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:00 PM
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Either online or in real life. Women are so distrusting of men, they don't believe anything a man says. It's internalized misandry. Women's natural reaction is to avoid men and dismiss everything about them, unless he's physically attractive or he proves himself through a lot of social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:32 AM
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Exactly! I don't see how red pill will help guys when the main subreddit is filled with porn fantasies and stories that barely seem believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:43 AM
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Wow. Many of the stories just sound like guys acting out their fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:32 AM
10

The motivational posts are also weird. So much cringey language used. I got f*cking sick of reading the whole subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:11 AM
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Why do they take everything another woman says at face value, but anything men say is dismissed as irrelevant? A woman and a man can say the exact same thing to another woman, and she will believe the woman but not the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:03 AM
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Yeah there's no science in the red pill subreddit. That's why I like blackpillscience, it actually has studies confirming the things they say. Red pill is just anecdotes and silly over-exaggerated stories that don't even sound real.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:46 AM
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Men's spaces shouldn't be subject to any of those things. But have you visited The Red Pill subreddit? The field reports are written like some male porn fantasy, where the OP is some jacked ripped dude making 6 figures a year and absolutely slays pussy by just using his silly push-pull game technique and holding rock solid frame. The whole sub has become this fantasy-land not based in reality. I stopped visiting the sub a while ago for that reason. All the stories in there sound over-exaggerated…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:17 AM
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These field reports read like some male porn fantasy. This is why I stopped visiting this subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/22 10:22 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:20 PM
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Well I must be incredibly unlucky because I did none of those things and was told I wouldn't be seen again by 2 escorts (the only 2 escorts I have ever seen). Put me off seeing an escort ever again. Not to mention the cost of them is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:08 PM
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Most clients they see are married men and business men. They don't get many awkward men. I didn't say just a bad kisser. Bad kisser in combination with awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:05 PM
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Now now, let’s be fair: nobody cares about the dating struggles of some anonymous schmuck who spends 500 words whining about not getting his dick wet. If that's the conclusion you've drawn from reading PPD, then I feel very sorry for you. It's clear that men want more than just to get their dick wet. They want someone to want them and love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:49 PM
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Yes I have seen escorts before and I know this happens. Escorts get plenty of business, they can afford to turn down a few clients who they feel uncomfortable with. I don't understand why people here don't know this. That's why I roll my eyes when people give the suggestion to just "see hookers".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:33 PM
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No, it takes less than that. If you're somewhat aspergist, can't hold a proper conversation and don't know how to kiss, they would not see you again. That description fits a ton of guys who are socially anxious with no sexual experience. Oh and women think the most innocuous things are jeopardizing their safety. If you look miserable all the time and find it hard to speak to people, in many women's minds you are deemed as unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:31 PM
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Yes I have been accused of that too. If I didn't speak to her for 1 or 2 days, the accusations of cheating or "which other girl are you talking to?" come up. They are projecting their own experience onto you. Those are all the things they do or experience in their dating lives, so they can't possibly see how men could have a difference experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:12 PM
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I've experienced similar. I have had women who are interested in me, assuming other women are interested in me, asking how am I still single, assuming I must have many chances for sex with other women, assuming I must have had many girlfriends, assuming I must be seeing another woman at the same time as talking to her. They are clueless. I don't want to say the real reason (because no other woman likes me) because she would lose attraction and she wouldn't understand anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:03 PM
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Why are women so much more sympathetic with other women, even if they're going through very similar or identical struggles to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:58 PM
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Because even hookers are selective and won't see you again if you make it too awkward for them. Hookers have enough dudes wanting to fuck them, that they are able to turn away one or two clients who they are uncomfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:52 PM
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If life like sex robots are going to exist for men, surely they will exist for women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:45 PM
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RealFemSapien has a husband who is 50 years old, almost twice her age, so I'm not sure you should listen to what she says. No man her age would ever have a traditional relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:57 PM
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It's very hypocritical. One rule for them, another for men. But women here have already admitted that feminism is about fighting for women and if men want to fight for their own issues, they should create their own group. So women have made it very clear that they don't give a damn about any sort of fairness or equality, it's about maximum gain for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:52 PM
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Can't believe there are now women who expect romance and give nothing in return. "No one owes you sex" is what the women say here. No one owes you romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:26 AM
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Hey, I'm a guy and I want to receive romance. But females don't romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:08 AM
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But in the real world, no one does anything for free. They want something in exchange for their efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:46 AM
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According to this sub, anyone who doesn't earn 6 figures, isn't masculine and doesn't lift weights is low value. You have to stay true to yourself so if you don't want to be those things, you shouldn't. But this makes you low value in the eyes of people on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:20 PM
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I still don't think it's correct to say that you have to hope to have good genes and take steroids. Well with all due respect (and it is respect because you seem to be debating quite reasonably, which is a change for PPD), you are wrong. Genetics still affect things, steroids or no steroids. Muscle insertions and bone size are the factors determining how good you look with that extra muscle - these are genetic. I used to think like you, until I realized how many gym users actually take steroids …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:44 PM
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How many females even do those subjects? In a lecture theatre of 200 computer science students, you'd be lucky to find 2 females in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:40 PM
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Manosphere people lump all women in the same category. They call it AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:53 PM
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Well this guy responded poorly to steroids: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAy8FRgz7Po He looks small, the size of a natural lifter, and got horrible acne (to the point where it was painful to lift) and now has to be on TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) for life. He's only 23 years old. So not everyone responds well to steroids. There are plenty of non-responders or those who get such bad side effects that they have to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:42 PM
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Nice strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:06 PM
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Actually no, you have a fundamental misunderstanding - women control sex and relationships. It's called Briffault's Law. Heck, have you seen the pigwoman experiment? Men will get with anything. Men's standards have never been the issue. Men's standards are at rock bottom. Most people in the United States are fat. For anyone to imply that most fat people aren't dating each other is absolutely ridiculous. 74% of Americans are overweight. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/most-american-adults-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:03 PM
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You clearly don't understand what the term looksmatch means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:34 PM
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Exactly, you will most likely have to take some sort of drugs AND hope you've got the genetics for it. Which will compromise your health in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:31 PM
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That's not what guys on this sub are complaining about. They're complaining because the ugly girls now have high standards, thanks to a number of things (mainly social media and online dating) and are turning their noses up to their looksmatches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:44 PM
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Dude, he's a Gym Shark athlete posting on Instagram. Fitness influencers on social media are the top 1% of genetically elite in society, that's why they get their roles as fitness influencers and sponsored by these supplement companies. The average man won't look anywhere near as good as that from lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:35 PM
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The second one. And yes theoretically you can make up for it, but you need to be absolutely exceptional in some other area of life to make up for it. Why do you think short dudes often get massively jacked and professional bodybuilders are generally 5'9 and under? Because the huge muscle is how they make up for their lack of height. But then you're also relying on genetics for that, because not every man has the genetics to build big muscles. Some men's bodies do not respond well to lifting weig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:23 PM
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The vast majority of guys do not have the genetics to build muscle like that. That's all genetics at the end of the day. You can grow a beard (if you can grow a beard like that, some men can't) and work out, but you still won't look anything as good as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:03 PM
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Where are people arguing that short men, men with high voices, or fatter men are generally more attractive to women or that it doesn't matter? All the people who give anecdotal examples "well I know a short fat bald man who has sex with loads of women".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:54 AM
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All that men are doing is perpetuating the problem that they are worthless and should be viewed as commodities that must be bought and sold. Women actually understand that you need to bring about social change in order to get people to view things differently - such as the body positivity movement to accept fat women. Men are the architects of their own problems by referring to themselves in this way. No matter how "true" you think it is or whether it's the "nature of today's society", it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:20 AM
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Maybe. I'm not sure how I would determine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:15 AM
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I don't know what that is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:06 AM
2

What do you like? Apart from Owen Gray...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:56 AM
1

How much hotter is it when a guy enjoys it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:55 AM
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Do you watch that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:49 AM
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I've read the term "worthless male" being used around here. Speaking about a real human being with feelings as "worthless" is horrible language.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:13 AM
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oh to be a sexual entity LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:14 AM
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I respect a woman who has achieved a lot through something other than her looks. Too many women are in the positions they are in because of their looks or gender. Sad but true. As far as attraction goes, I view them as another man and a non-sexual entity. But a woman would need to look quite hideous for me to have zero attraction to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:25 AM
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Face, race, height and bone structure are far more important than anything you talk about in your OP. These will be the biggest limiting factors. I do all the things in your OP and get jack sh*t on every dating website.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:55 PM
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No, I live in the UK. None of the things you mention in your OP are revolutionary or will increase your attractiveness by a great deal. Most guys are already doing them. You are limited by your face, your height, your race and your bone structure. These 4 things will be far more important than anything you talk about in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:54 PM
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No because I do all the things you say and I don't get women. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:34 PM
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You should have some experience with women in your 20's. It's very stupid to go your whole 20's without that. Not to mention most people can't go their whole younger years with no experience with the opposite sex without it affecting them mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:25 PM
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You can live like a king on an average western wage in Thailand. No need for 175k lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:26 PM
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I'm top 20% in all those areas that OP mentioned and in UK. I don't even get noticed by women and none want sex with me. The OP has no clue what he's talking about!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:44 PM
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I'm in the UK and I'm top 20% in all those areas. Where are all the women who want to bang me? Although most of those areas are highly subjective. I think I have an athletic body type, but it could be seen as muscular or just average. Who knows. Well dressed is subjective. I think I dress well but maybe others don't. I think my haircut is good but others might not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:16 PM
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Yes. Ugly women are not "grateful" like you think they are. They are either cynical and reject you because they know men want them only for sex. Or they're bitter and hate men. Or they expect prince charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:44 AM
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You "would" find it stressful? Male/female? You don't date?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:56 AM
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I think their point is that even the ugly girls expect prince charming these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:31 AM
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That's my point. If your natural personality as a man is like that, you're f*cked. You have to work hard to change it. Yet at the same time, we tell women they are beautiful just the way they are. No one tells men they are beautiful the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:18 AM
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Ok. You just can't advise others not to! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:33 AM
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Isn't it obvious if men are considering giving up on dating, they fall into the second category? Almost no one starts out with the mindset of giving up before they even try!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:57 AM
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Strange how you're not allowed to say that men should give up on dating. Because this is supposedly incel content. Are men not allowed to give up on dating and advise other men to do so, or do they have to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:48 AM
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Men cannot be quiet and submissive, must be dominant and assertive. Yet... women must always be accepted for who they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:12 PM
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Yes because housework doesn't require an IQ above 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:02 PM
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I've met enough Americans before that I believe it's actually accurate. Most don't know basic geography questions that even an 8 year old would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:01 PM
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They also did interviews on the Jimmy Kimmel show asking Americans out in public if they can name any country on a world map. Most people they interviewed couldn't name any country. It is amazing for a country so advanced, how stupid most people are. They are only advanced due to a few hyper intelligent, hyper driven people at the top. The rest are fat, lazy and stupid and want obesity to be normalized through "body positivity". It's quite sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:48 PM
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So be confident and proud in yourself. Just don't have children. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:39 PM
1

Good for you, but it doesn't always work out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:25 PM
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Most of the women on this sub are 50+ years old and married, so you're asking the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:48 AM
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So you're telling short men to not breed because they would produce short children who are also insecure about their height. Yet... short men are also told they should be confident and secure and proud of their height and that it "doesn't matter". Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:04 AM
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But I don't like fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:55 AM
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So if it's college kids, we should just brush it off as nothing? Sexual and romantic success has the biggest impact on those age groups. You're all surrounded by other young people and you see many of them kissing in clubs or holding hands for boyfriend and girlfriend and you feel like shit if you're not a part of that yourself. Then it affects your confidence in every other aspect of life and probably has a knock on effect later in life too. How ignorant of you to think that's not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:49 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:11 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships for all but the very top males. Of course anyone can choose not to have sex or a relationship if it's offered to them. But that's not what gatekeep means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:43 AM
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Tried the approach of asking out women. All it does is get you women who aren't really interested in you. You have to do all the legwork to keep the interaction going. But when the woman initiates with you, you know she has interest already. And yeah, 3 messages isn't great, but that's because I'm not very good looking! :P A better looking man would have way more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:40 AM
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sigh, people don't understand that you don't need a large sample in order for it to be representative of an entire population. granted 237 is a bit on the small side, but most political surveys are 1000-2000 people and that's plenty to get an idea of political opinions in a country of millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:51 AM
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Exactly. Take the average middle class American woman who goes to college and lives a comfortable life. If she hangs around the right people and doesn't get involved in anything dodgy, the biggest inconvenience she will deal with is maybe a few sexual remarks here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:41 PM
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Not to mention if you're a middle or upper middle class woman, you probably never have to worry about such things happening. Certainly the average western woman is NOT at risk of being sex trafficked, lmao. I don't know why OP mentioned that in their title. Silly exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:44 PM
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Yes I would. But lets be honest, the average woman is NOT at risk of being sex trafficked and I've never come across a woman who has genuinely been stalked or harassed. Those things happen depending on the people you interact with. If you're an upper middle class woman interacting with other upper middle class people, you probably never have to worry about such things happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:39 PM
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If you're getting stranger attention as a man, then you're a way above average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:05 AM
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Sounds like you're being ridiculously paranoid and making up stories in your head. Genuine sexual assault and harassment is a serious issue. But a few offhand comments from some passing strangers is nothing. I've experienced that before as a male. Brush it off and move on. Whenever you dig deeper into these stories, you find that many women blow things WAY out of proportion. Amber Heard being one of them. Accused Johnny Depp of sexual violence, but when a legal court investigated it, they found …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:35 AM
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I remember watching some TV chat shows during the coronavirus lockdowns. They were video-messaging women who were crying because they couldn't socialize for 1 or 2 weeks. Women having mental breakdowns because they couldn't talk to someone in person for 1 week. They cannot cope. I've gone months with absolute bare minimum socializing before. If the average woman had to live my life, she would have committed suicide a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:55 AM
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What do men get ZERO attention now? Because almost every guy I know at least has had an ex. Which means someone paid attention to them. It's such a weird false assumption. a) you don't know that. the guy might have had to approach someone who had no initial interest in him and do all the legwork to get and maintain any relationship. big assumption that the woman paid attention to him and showed interest in the beginning. b) 30% of young men are sexless. so there's a decent portion of guys who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:43 AM
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You're still not answering the question. Would you be happy with zero male attention for your whole life? This includes any boyfriend you've had in the past or husband, none of them would have shown any attention or interest in you. You would have to do all the legwork yourself. This includes getting no messages on social media from men. No messages from men on online dating sites, you would have to send all the messages yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:35 AM
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This sub is mostly older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:29 AM
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But would you also get rid of the attention from men you DO like? That's the question the OP is asking. He is asking would you be ok with ZERO attention from ALL men, even the ones you're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:25 AM
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She's an FDS user.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:23 AM
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It's representative of many women, including about 95% of the female PPD posters. And those women obviously exist in real life too. So it's certainly something that men must be wary of when dealing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:34 AM
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Fair enough. I was "debating" with an FDS user who said she didn't want a tradcon man. I told her she does want the benefits of tradcon (eg. being wined and dined, expecting the man to be the main breadwinner) but she doesn't want to hold up her end of the bargain by being an obedient housewife who cooks and cleans and doesn't have sex with 100 guys prior to the relationship. That's essentially what FDS is - they want to be a modern liberal woman, while still expecting a traditional man. She res…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:25 AM
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I thought the idea was to debate in a measured fashion and get people to see your point of view or even change their mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:11 AM
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Ok. Well I guess it's a rule that can't be enforced. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:10 AM
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I just saw this rule: "The demographics of PPD shift constantly, and downvoting can drive away minority viewpoints. This makes the community less interesting, creates less opportunity for debate, and destroys the neutrality of PPD. As a result we ask that you not downvote while on this subreddit." I've had posts of mine downvoted in PPD before. Is there anything I can do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:38 PM
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You don't date tradcon men because they expect you to also be a tradcon woman. You date men who give you all the benefits of tradcon (eg. being wined and dined) but none of the drawbacks of tradcon (eg. allowing you to sleep with as many men as possible). That's what FDS and modern feminism is all about. Picking and choosing which parts of gender equality suit them!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 12:21 PM
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Ok thanks. I thought she was an interesting character. A shame she is gone from reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:35 AM
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Ok thanks. I wonder why she was deleted from reddit. edit: just saw a video explaining why she was banned. i'll watch that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:23 AM
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Does anyone know what happened to gimpgirl555? She used to post here a lot. It says her account is suspended. She was also Russian I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:53 AM
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Being her physical "type" - most women have very rigid physical types and if you don't fit them, they pretty much ignore you. A heavily tatted chick will probably also be looking for a heavily tatted dude and if you don't fit that, you're wasting your time even talking to her. This doesn't apply as much to long term relationships, where many women trade looks for other factors like stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:39 AM
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Exactly, you proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:01 PM
1

Argue? Or just "impose my view onto others"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:07 PM
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FDS users only want men to follow tradcon. They themselves want to follow the liberal feminist way, but also expect to be wined and dined. They are what known as "selective feminists", only wanting the areas of gender equality that benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:05 PM
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That list is showing you which other subs the FDS users post in. Unless FDS users are secretly men, then that list is all women. When you look at that list, 2 broad conclusions can be drawn: - FDS users are mainly older women, 30+ or 40+ - FDS users have a series of mental issues, like depression, bipolar, bpd, adhd and aspergers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:24 PM
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Oh ok. That sounds sad. Sounds like a bunch of women who lived privileged, sheltered lives and consumed man-hating media all their lives. They never interacted with normal men before, like you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:05 PM
1

Oh fair enough. I can do that! haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:03 PM
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No, I just know when I can spot an FDS user on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:56 PM
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Ok but you should be tired and sensitive afterwards, assuming you actually had proper orgasms. Both women and men get tired and sensitive after orgasms, I'm not sure how that's such a controversial thing to say. Perhaps that other person has 6 or 7 orgasms in a row and took me literally when I said "after an orgasm". Yeah I know some women multiple orgasm but after that short period of multiple orgasms, they will be too tired and sensitive to continue for a while. That's my point. Just go and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:31 PM
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Or an article like this in a national newspaper in the UK: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/01/amber-heard-johnny-depp-trial-metoo-backlash The guardian is a reasonably well trusted source in the UK too, which is even more worrying that they hired such a stupid woman to write such an article.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:51 AM
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Had plenty of sex thank you, but nice to see you're showing what you're really like as a person. Can't win an argument so you resort to shaming. Like I say, why is your opinion different from all the women on those threads and all the ones I have spoke to? Either they are all lying or you haven't had a proper orgasm before. Hmmm I wonder which one is true. I'll let you figure that one out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:29 AM
1

Why do you need to have already cum before that? Through receiving oral?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:26 AM
1

I see the majority of women actually siding with Depp. Look at the crowds of people in real life waiting outside the court and it was filled with female Depp supporters. Youtube comments were filled with women siding with Depp. Anyone who is still supporting Heard after an independent jury found her guilty, has an agenda against Depp and/or men in general and shouldn't be listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:24 AM
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Interesting. That must explain the types of opinions I see here from women. I wonder why they are most likely to congregate here in purplepilldebate of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:19 AM
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I think it's fine. Some men in their 30s look quite young and some women in their late teens look quite old and mature. And men must build themselves up into something valuable (as per what the red pill says), so why build yourself up only to be forced to go for used-up post-wall women anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:38 AM
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Got to be attractive first though lmao!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:30 AM
1

Because that's how it works. Women get tired and sensitive too after orgasm. Check the links I posted in reply to the other poster. All women who reply on threads like that say they either get tired or too sensitive or a combination of both. I don't see how this controversial. Is it because I'm a dude trying to explain it? Would you listen to me if I was a woman, is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:29 AM
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You do have free speech, but on private platforms, they can delete things if they don't want them posted. Just like you can control who comes into your house and what happens in there, they can do the same on their website.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/22 05:19 AM
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Well who is wrong here? All these people and all the women I've ever spoken to, or you who never had a proper orgasm from the sounds of things. Anyway I'll leave you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:23 AM
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Sigh, you obviously never had a real orgasm. Women feel sleepy and too sensitive to continue for a while just like men. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1bt64a/what_does_your_body_do_after_you_achieve_orgasm/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/comments/ed32e9/how_do_you_feel_after_sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:52 AM
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No, wars are waged by leaders who want revenge and/or power over others. They may feel a sense of bitterness or injustice at the world. Possible short man syndrome too, which is a very real thing and perpetuated by women who consistently say they prefer tall men. Soldiers are the means to win a war. Soldiers will rape the women if they get a chance, but soldiers are only there to follow orders by the leader. They don't conquer to get women, although getting women is a good byproduct. If they onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:08 AM
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Yeah it is. Sounds like you never had an actual proper orgasm during sex. You should feel exhausted, sensitive and disinterested in sex for a period of time if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:46 AM
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Like you said, women can have more sex, longer than men, and can recharge much faster. No. If women have had a hard intense orgasm, they are sensitive just like men and go to sleep afterwards. If a woman is still up for sex the moment it's finished, it means the man didn't do his job properly!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:04 AM
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In my experience, even if you provide sources, people just don't believe them anyway. They have a fixed view and don't see things a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:24 PM
1

Huh? He didn't give me any answer so I can't message you with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:23 PM
1

How does women abstaining from sex indicate standards are high? Because it just does? I don't know how I can explain it in simpler terms. If women aren't having as much sex, it tells us that the standard of most men is not good enough for them. This is fine It's a sign of high standards and not fine if you're any young man who wants to marry and start a family. No one is forcing anything? You’re not entitled to a relationship If society gets to the point where enough men can't find relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:10 PM
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The dating world DOES reflect these higher standards. Men and women having less sex than 20-30 years ago. Women control sex so if society as a whole is having less of it, it's because women are choosing to abstain from having sex. Women not even considering to settle down till their 30's, if they even settle down at all. If you're 21 year old man who wants to marry and start a family, you're forced to wait till your 30's or older, because women don't want the average man at these ages. More sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:09 PM
1

"I know my worth reeeee!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:03 PM
1

I don't believe men treat these women any better. They are simply famous celebrities who are exposed to more men, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:38 PM
1

I never said it was their fault or problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:37 PM
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Social media is a completely fake world. It shows the genetically elite of society, with photoshopped images, filtered images, perfect lighting, who often take steroids. No normal person can compete with heavily edited images from people who already have top tier genetics and are on drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:32 PM
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Different men get treated differently based on their looks, status and wealth. Average Joe is seen as worthless to women. Average Joe keeps society running in the background, while being invisible to women. Chads, men in power, celebrities, these are the men who get treated well by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:28 PM
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Anyone who has to say these things is usually projecting and low value themselves, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:26 PM
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What age are we talking about? Your average fat 60 year old probably won't be attractive to most men (and nor does a woman that age even care about looking attractive to men), but any normal woman in the 18-40 age range probably will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:24 PM
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That's a misleading stat. Women carry fat better than men and are still attractive at higher body fat percentages. Men have more muscle which weighs more than fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:22 PM
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It depends if you're talking about age 50+ women or young women. Sure an 80+ year old granny isn't likely to be attractive to most men, but an average 25 year old certainly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:19 PM
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Being ignored is worse than being hated. At least if you're hated, someone is giving you their energy enough to show that you mean something to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:17 PM
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I don't hold any power as far as I'm aware. No more than the average woman does. That's the case for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:28 PM
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The people on reddit also exist in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:27 PM
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Why would you "exercise your rights" against Average Joe but not against Chris Hemsworth?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:25 PM
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Yes there was a study on that. Because they're getting so much attention from average men, it makes them feel entitled to the more good looking men. Their line of thinking is "well all these men want me, so why wouldn't this man want me as well?".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:11 PM
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So true, well said. Why am I being held responsible by women for the actions of a small fraction of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:06 PM
2

It's ok, you don't have to be a feminist. Modern feminism is not much more than a man-hating movement designed to get maximum superiority for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:03 PM
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Wait, but I thought modern women didn't do things for men's approval?? That's specifically what modern feminism has taught them - don't do things for the pleasure of a man. But now you are doing something because a man wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:28 PM
1

I wonder why you can't stand something that is so natural and normal as body hair. You must have been conditioned to think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:26 PM
1

I will do whatever works for me personally and no one else gets an input. And that's why more women are single than ever before and dating is in the gutter! Too much selfish me me me culture, without considering the other person and what they might want. (not referring to this specific example, just in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:23 PM
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Title: Men are valued for their looks. Men are now only valued for their looks. OP: Men are valued for their looks and money. Must earn big money, must fulfil every financial need of a woman. Which is it bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:20 PM
1

Cool. Do you keep your hair normally anyway or shave?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:42 AM
1

Nice! But other women are saying they would still remove it. Do you know why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:12 AM
1

Yeah hairy women can look quite nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:47 AM
1

Cool. Do you think women remove body hair because it's socially acceptable, not because they necessarily want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:45 AM
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Would you have hair anywhere at all? 0_o
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:27 AM
1

Do you remove all your hair? (apart from on your head)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:26 AM
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Yes that's my point. Serial monogamy, not monogamy for life with one partner. Men and women are supposed to have multiple partners. That's why women are heavily infatuated with one man for a certain length of time, then they go off him and forget he even exists. This is what you're referring to in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:21 AM
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Question for women here (not sure if I'm allowed to create a thread to ask this): If a guy asked you to stop shaving/removing your body hair and keep it all natural (arms, legs, stomach, private parts, everything), what would you think? Would you do it or not? Or maybe you already keep all your body hair, I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:13 AM
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I was told nothing. I was just told to get good grades and get a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:47 AM
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I know that pubic hair was the norm for women, but even leg hair, arm hair and all the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:45 AM
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Ok thanks. Looks like she has mild hirsutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:10 AM
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I think many guys would so you're not alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:10 AM
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I wondered whether it was fake at first. I never thought a woman could grow that much hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:07 AM
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Wouldn't men have sex with anything? So they should want to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:06 AM
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But regardless of colour, what percentage of them can grow hair on their legs, arms, stomach and elsewhere to the same level most men can?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:05 AM
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That's not the question I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:04 AM
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Really, even though they have a fraction of the testosterone of men, they could still get visible body hair on their legs, arms and stomach as much as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:00 AM
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If all women stopped shaving, what percentage of them do you think would have visible body hair on places like their legs, arms and even their stomach? For example, what percentage of women do you think could look like this without shaving (warning NSFW, hope i'm allowed to post this as an example): https://www.reddit.com/r/WomensHairyLegs/comments/v1bcyw/would_you_get_hard_spooning_me/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:52 AM
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It doesn't mean you can't get sex and relationships with women. It just means these relationships will be temporary. Human are not naturally monogamous. They are supposed to lose attraction after a certain length of time and move onto someone else. Monogamy was primarily meant for stability of society and raising kids. Monogamy is for practical purposes, not the natural instinct of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:25 PM
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How common would you say larping is among the red pill spaces online? I have read youtube comments and threads in r/theredpill and they almost come across as some sort of caricature or parody or fantasy (not sure if those are the right terms to describe it). A typical larping comment will be something like a dude saying he is 6'3, ripped, muscular, high 6 figure income, and how he used tight game and rock solid frame to sleep with a perfect 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:07 AM
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Sounds like you're larping. Apparently larping is quite common in the red pill space. This is what gives it away that you're larping: I was (as I'm still) 6.3', very ripped and muscular, good looking and well off. So weird how there's so many larpers around these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:03 AM
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Answer his question. Who made you clean a dude's toilet?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:38 AM
1

If they boost testosterone by any amount, even a very tiny amount, then it's correct to call it a testosterone booster. This is what you fail to understand. It's disingenuous and deceptive to call it that, obviously, but technically correct and that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:25 AM
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He did, but seems like a pointless thing to do unless he was that starved of attention. 2 other guys were interested as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:06 PM
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They aren't snake oil. They do actually boost testosterone. They boost it by a very tiny amount, but it is technically correct to say they are testosterone boosters even if it only boosts it by a negligible amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:28 PM
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I see. Was he doing this so-called "larping"? I've seen many guys get accused of this in these red pill spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:16 PM
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Fair enough. I wonder why he was unwilling to say what he learned about them in public and then never answered a private message either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:15 PM
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AWALT in what sense though? What specifically do you think he learned that all women do, after sleeping with lots of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:06 PM
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Why are you assuming he's larping? You have no clue if he is or isn't. Lets take it at face value and assume he isn't. So what do you think he understands too much about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:05 PM
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He never said what quality of women he slept with. He just said he slept with lots of women and understands too much about them. What parts of women do you think he understands too much about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:02 PM
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I messaged him and got no answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:58 PM
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I was speaking to a guy on PPD who slept with lots of women. He said: As someone who had my fair share, I'm burned out. The blessing was the experice but the curse was what I have come to learn. I asked him what the curse of sleeping with lots of women was. He said: Understanding women a bit too much to enjoy it anymore. I asked what does he understand too much. He said: I prefer to not share this openly, let's just say there is a good reason most guys don't understand this. I private messaged h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:56 PM
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I messaged him and got no answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:54 PM
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They don't recommend working in the rat race though. They recommend creating your own business and working for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:05 AM
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OP just had a woman want to actually be with him for once in his life, and has now finally realized something that most men realize in their teens. Also reported for making an affirmative claim. Should be a CMV post, not a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:34 AM
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Population decline is a far bigger problem than the impact a few extra people will have on the Earth. When everywhere in the world has a birth rate below replacement level (we are heading in that direction), we are screwed. All developed western nations have a birth rate below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:46 AM
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You're forced to if you want to make any sort of "affirmative claim". Even saying something as simple as "women find it easier to get sex", which is factually correct, is an "affirmative claim" because you're saying something is true. Instead you have to ask "do women find it easier to get sex?" but we all know the answer is yes anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:26 PM
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Obviously I'm not saying that. There can be a middle ground where some people agree and some don't. Not where every post is rigidly forced to disagree, even on obviously correct statements like "the sky is blue". And posts that agree are buried somewhere near the bottom where no one reads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:15 PM
1

In real life, the only women who flirted with me were very drunk. Not sure of their age, 20's or 30's. In online dating, the only women who message me are black women (I'm white).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:10 PM
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Why are CMV posts set up in such a way that everyone has to disagree with the OP? You can say "The sky is blue. Change my mind" and even though it's factually correct, it forces people who post to have to disagree. All this does is promote stupidity and stupid opinions. It's better to promote agreement otherwise the arguments and war between the genders will be never-ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:18 PM
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It's like asking extroverts why do they need to be around people every day. We never question this, we just accept it as it is. Imagine questioning that "hey why do you need to socialize? stay in your house on your own you pathetic individual, you can do things on your own". This is what we do with guys: "hey why do you need sex? forget it and focus on other things you pathetic incel".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:06 PM
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They're not desperate for guys to ask them out. They would prefer guys avoid them while they go about their daily lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:28 PM
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The reason why most men think women have a deep and complex sexuality is because most men are invisible to women. It's their way of coping. They can't tell themselves they're unattractive, they have to believe it's women's "complex sexuality" and women will notice him eventually. Anyway I have to challenge your view so I will say women's sexuality is more complex than mens. They do require a bit more to be interested than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:34 PM
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That's true, but when it's a choice between no sex and bad sex, most men would choose the bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:35 PM
1

Any answer to my question? "If there are so many unattractive girls just desperately waiting for guys to ask them out, where are they exactly? Where do they hang out, where do they exist?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:42 PM
1

Even if that means being single and alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:40 AM
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What parts about them did you understand too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:36 PM
2

What's the curse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:50 PM
3

I'd take a guess that the vast majority who are causing the dead bedrooms are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:58 PM
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Interesting. I guess you're right. They might have some side affects, but it's surely better than the miserable sex lives that most men experience - begging for sex on birthdays and christmas. That must be quite sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:24 PM
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Huh? I'm talking about women. This sub is very strange. Too many people twist anything you say about women to blame men instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:59 PM
3

How would you enforce that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:50 PM
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Well go over to the red pill subreddit and it's full of guys larping as high value male studs. They focus on the top 0.1% of males (very wealthy businessmen and celebrities) as their fantasy that they will be so much more desirable in their 40's and 50's. It's really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:47 PM
1

No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:00 PM
1

No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:12 AM
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I just noticed that Ellen has finally ended her show, after 19 years. I'm from the UK and watched a fair amount of Ellen videos on youtube, but once all those accusations came out that showed she was a horrible monster behind the camera, I couldn't watch any Ellen videos ever again. Does anyone feel like a fool? The whole "be kind" thing was all completely fake. She was a nasty evil person when the cameras weren't rolling. Is TV in the US filled with this many manipulative monsters and snakes? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:56 AM
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They could, but that would mean they would need to be a decent, pleasant, high quality person that a man would want to provide for. For most women, that is too much to ask. They'd rather be a fat, hairy, masculine, man-hating feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:36 AM
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In the 18-35 age range, women are definitely way more valuable. Their reproductive value is at its peak, men want them for sex, people are more friendly with them, start conversations with them. 18-35 year old women have it so so easy in terms of social life, sexual life and romantic life. It gets handed to them on a plate unless they're really butt ugly. Beyond 35, the playing field levels out. That's because women lose their reproductive value at older ages. Now that 45 year old woman doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:30 AM
2

That is related to sexual competition, not being turned on by a man. I have personally never felt any sexual or romantic feelings for another dude, nor do I watch gay porn or get hard at the thought of any man. I don't know any straight man who has.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:58 PM
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It's an interesting theory, but your theory falls apart when a man gets no erection from kissing another man, but he goes rock hard after kissing a woman. If straight men were really attracted to other men, they would stare at other men's bodies, watch gay porn and get erections, think of kissing other men and get hard. None of that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:49 PM
1

Speaking from a male perspective, if a guy rushes off, it's because you were bad in bed or you looked a lot worse than he expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:41 PM
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But I just said you don't have to rush off after sex? You can kiss and cuddle, maybe watch a movie in bed naked, and then leave. But you're not doing all the other things couples do. "Just sex" doesn't have to be cold and unfriendly. You can talk to the other person and hug them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:38 PM
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There's plenty of things we did in our ancient past that would be seen as disgusting now. That is obviously one of them. Another one of them is women being forced to marry men to rely on them financially - we got rid of that by allowing women to earn their own money. Lets put it this way - if straight men could fulfil their sexual needs by having sex with other men, they would already be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:31 PM
1

But I thought dick size didn't matter?? That's what I was always told. Or was that a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:54 PM
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and/or by sleeping with other men I don't know what's more funny - the fact you suggested this or the fact you were actually being serious with this suggestion. Just lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:52 PM
1

How do I look into that possibility? Like is there a test I can do to determine whether I am aromantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:56 PM
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If there are so many unattractive girls just desperately waiting for guys to ask them out, where are they exactly? Where do they hang out, where do they exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:34 PM
1

haha chivalry, 99.9% of men aren't chivalrous anymore. because there is no benefit to chivalry. you must be attractive first, only then is the chivalry somewhat appreciated, otherwise it is seen as unwanted and creepy. and you're like 45 years old right? chivalry is mainly appreciated among older ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:51 PM
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The biggest cause - social media, combined with modern feminism. Angry young males did not exist in such large numbers before Instagram, TikTok and other social media. I wonder why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:46 PM
2

Yes I've heard that a million times before on this sub. No need to repeat it. :P What if he nuts, still stays around for some sort of post-sex activities like some cuddling, but then leaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:51 AM
1

Well I tried chasing the person itself but then everyone told me that's a bad idea because you develop oneitis and obsessing over 1 woman is never a good idea when all women are very similar. You need to have this so-called "abundance mindset".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:41 AM
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You've got to distinguish between the different parts of Europe. UK and Ireland are very similar culturally to the US. But yeah, Germany will be a bit different. I don't know why, but the women in countries like US, UK, Canada and Australia are all so obnoxious and entitled. It's probably the culture. The cultures in these countries value selfishness and individualism. Looks, money and status are everything. Mental health problems are through the roof in these countries. Obesity rates are high a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:15 AM
2

Because using a plastic toy is a lot different than a living breathing human being and they can do positions that your toys can't. But if you're genuinely more happy with toys, then great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:39 AM
1

So just a very good friend? You can get a friend for that! Live with a same sex roommate who you really care for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:19 AM
1

Women: "I have a need to give and receive romantic love" Also women: "You don't need sex. No one owes you sex." Does this mean that romantic love is a need for everyone but sex isn't? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:16 AM
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Yes, it would appear that more women are staying single these days. Social media has replaced some aspects of a relationship. Why get attention just from a boyfriend when they can get it from thousands of men on Instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:12 AM
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That sounds like a friend who you have sex with. It's a friendship that happens to be with a member of the opposite sex who you find physically attractive. But you could easily get the same thing from having a female friend who you really care about + having sex with an attractive man on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:04 AM
1

Yes, but after doing more research, I realized it was just my dick thinking for me. Maybe your vagina is also thinking for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:59 AM
0

It's better when you know the guy cares about your pleasure and about you as a person. But I've heard women say they get turned off when a man says he wants to "please her" or he "wants to pleasure her" or he "gets off on her getting off". Women actively avoid these kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:58 AM
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I asked why can't you get those things from elsewhere? Your job and friends provide stability. Companionship can be got from your friends or pets. Men like Better Bachelor and Rich Cooper have explained these things before - you can get all the things a relationship brings, from other areas of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:54 AM
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The women here say it all the time "we don't want just sex" "men only want sex" "only see women for their sexual organs".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:51 AM
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You spent a bit of time building up to the sex, you had the sex, then you cuddled or kissed afterwards. But that is "just sex" according to women here and I thought they didn't want that??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:50 AM
-2

That is a great question. I feel like a thread on that subject would get deleted sadly. It could be good for purge week though. I will save it for that, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:45 AM
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People who you "like trust and admire" is quite vague and could mean anything. Trust how? I have known guys who I could trust with a secret but they were also virgins who were invisible to women. Yeah, I learned nothing from your post, no offense! Gonna have to go into more detail on those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:43 AM
0

So to put it bluntly, relationships are about kids and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:38 AM
5

aiming for the more attractive/financially secure ones So "relationships" for women are all about showing off an attractive guy to friends and family and using his money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:37 AM
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It won't be a waste of time, I'd like you to explain. But nice deflection. I told you not to deflect but you couldn't resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:35 AM
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But why can't you have this for emotional connection: - your friends - your family - a pet - a man who you see for some hot passionate sex, like a f**k buddy but he actually talks to you, kisses you, cuddles and watches a movie with you. No need for this so-called "relationship" when you have all this. I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:33 AM
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Those are just vague wishy-washy terms. You can get the first 2 from a guy who wants just sex. "Just sex" doesn't have to literally mean only sex. You can still kiss and cuddle and go on a date, lmao. Companionship, wtf is that? Like the stuff you have with your friends? You got your friends for that! Stability, well you got a job for that and your friends and family I assume are quite stable in your life. Partnership, what like a business partnership? That's just as vague as companionship. ​ Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:26 AM
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I'm not like that. Wtf you on about?? I don't think you even spoke to any men on this subreddit properly from the sounds of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:54 PM
0

Do you know for sure or are you just assuming? No evidence to back up your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:47 PM
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But if she proved she was real and genuine, you would jump so fast at that opportunity. That's the point OP is making.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:45 PM
1

They were sexless before then, and probably still sexless now in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:55 PM
1

Too much gaslighting in this subreddit. Looks always come first, personality is second. If you don't have the looks, you don't even get a foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:33 PM
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It's the same. Of course you're going to say it's very different because you're a woman! Shortcuts to beauty are only bad for men. For women of course they're perfectly fine lmao. Very few men. Women use makeup to compete with other women and to feel confident in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:24 PM
1

No, it's your looks that get you flirted with. Stop misleading people that it's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:23 PM
1

I thought you'd relate to this as a woman. You paint your face every day. Wearing a quick-fix mask to completely lie about what you look like. And before you say "well I don't do that, I only wear a bit of eyeliner" yeah maybe you specifically don't, but most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:46 AM
2

I've had some girls call me a creep for things and others call me hot for doing the exact same thing. Your actions will get interpreted completely different depending on whether a girl is attracted to you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:52 PM
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This is just from dating sites btw. I never had a non-black woman message me first on dating sites. They've all been black. Not sure why. I've seen statistics that black women have the toughest time on dating sites out of all women. Honestly I'm not sure what racial preferences black women are into. I thought they were into their own race more. I don't know where you live, that might make a difference too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:07 PM
3

Practice for something by doing something completely different. I guess I should go learn to program a computer in order to teach myself how to become a chef. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:01 PM
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Talking in a polite friendly way vs flirting and sexual escalation. 2 completely different skillsets and you don't learn one from the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:59 PM
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You can talk to women in a friendly way all you want. I've done that before. But as soon as you start to flirt with them, unless they find you physically attractive, they will shut you down very quickly. Many women get extremely offended if you were friendly in the beginning, then bring up sex a lot later. They get offended because they realize "oh shit, this guy was just speaking to me because he wanted to fuck me" and any friendship or acquaintance you had quickly evaporates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:50 PM
2

Key word "be a friend". No kissing. No sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:49 PM
2

Unless you have the courage to go out on your own, you would need some friends who like to go out specifically to pull women. I could never find those types of guys personally. I either came across introverts who never liked going out at all and wanted to spend quiet nights in, or extroverted party animals who didn't like being around me for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:32 PM
1

Why are you on PPD if you're a young, fit, handsome engineer who has no issues finding women to give you attention? haha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:37 PM
2

They were average black women, maybe below average. They didn't look like Rihanna, lets put it like that. :P One of the big complaints I hear from black women is black men don't want to be in relationships and would prefer to go for white women. I don't know how true this is, or if those black women are just projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:33 PM
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Ok. Well I don't know what you look like exactly so can't comment there. In my experience, black women match with me and message me the most on dating websites, so you should be able to get women in your own race quite easily. Black women have the most number of single women of any race of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:06 PM
1

I hate to break it to you, but some people were unfortunate to be born with bad genetics for attracting the opposite sex. The only reason why you don't hear them complaining about it is because no one wants to hear negativity and complaining, so they get silenced and gaslighted. I'm giving solutions to their problems. You're just gaslighting and concern trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:31 PM
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You can make a woman laugh, but it's not going to get her aroused. Laughter is something men need to use when they weren't blessed with good looks. Listen to comedians and they'll joke about being failures with women when they were younger, so they had to turn to comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:02 PM
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There's loads of women who love black men, I'm sure you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:58 PM
2

Average and ugly men also want to get laid too you know. You can't just keep them in the dark and gaslight them all the time "oh we can't say this because it might make him insecure". If you didn't win the genetic lottery (like most guys who seek out the red pill - otherwise they wouldn't need to seek out the red pill), these are ways that can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:55 PM
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Yes I have been the alpha before and the beta before. I was only ever the alpha to virgin women or 3rd world foreign women though sadly (foreign women because I'm white). It's obvious if you're the alpha. She will start conversations with you, she will push for dates with you, she will have genuine body language that she is pleased to be around you, she puts effort into sex, you can say certain things without her getting offended or creeped out. You can be yourself around her and it actually fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:48 PM
2

Yeah. But I highly doubt Rich Cooper, Better Bachelor and Rollo Tomassi ever fucked lots of women. Unless it was hookers. Better Bachelor and Rollo claim they did, but I have my doubts given how beta and unattractive both of them are. I don't think I've heard Rich Cooper claim he fucked lots of women. He's just bitter and tells men to avoid women and chase excellence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:34 PM
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Yeah I didn't say it was healthy. But these are also the fitness influencers on instagram who are having sex with loads of women and getting sponsorships from fitness companies for their bodies. So women + fitness companies are encouraging and promoting this horrible unhealthy lifestyle where you are causing yourself heart attacks and an early death. Very ironic, given that fitness is supposed to promote a healthy lifestyle, yet the people they have advertising their supplements and products are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:29 PM
1

I thought so. No evidence, just an emotionally driven statement to suit her own narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:24 PM
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No it's not. OP asked for shortcuts and I gave them to him. Why else would he have created this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:23 PM
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No, it gets you much more ahead of the game than that: - It gets you at least 5 years ahead of the game, if not more, depending on what you take - You don't need to watch your diet religiously, get enough sleep every single day, keep your stress down, because the drugs are offsetting all that - You recover much more quickly between workouts and you can go harder and longer in the gym - It allows you to build more muscle than your natural genetic limit - You lose fat at the same time. It's more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:21 PM
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Yeah I know, but OP wanted quick ways to improve yourself. The vast majority of fitness influencers on Instagram take steroids. Zac Efron takes them. The Rock takes them. Mark Wahlberg takes them. You'd be surprised how many guys take steroids. That's what uneducated people on this sub telling guys to "go to the gym" don't understand. They don't understand the huge role that genetics and drugs play. If you have average or below average genetics and lift naturally, you're kind of screwed from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:58 AM
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Yeah but you will have a much better body, so women won't notice or care if your balls are a bit smaller. You will most likely have complications later in life. You will most likely need HRT (hormone replacement therapy) for the rest of your life because your body permanently stops producing testosterone if you inject it exogenously in large doses like with steroids. Other side effects include hair loss, big mood swings, heart problems like heart attacks. But people who take steroids don't care.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:53 AM
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They make your balls smaller, not the pepe. Roids have bad side effects all round, especially in the long term, but they grow much more muscle, much faster than a natural lifter can. Which is why so many guys take them. Even many girls now take drugs to help put on muscle, at least from what I see in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:39 AM
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Take steroids, HGH and other drugs to get a better body much faster. Hire a fake car to pretend you're rich. Wear clothes that make you look rich. And lie about your income. Photoshop all your online dating images as much as possible. Plastic or cosmetic surgery. Wear lifts in your shoes, wear height increasing shoes, get limb lengthening surgery. If you're a white westerner, go abroad to Asia. Instant success just from the fact you're white.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:18 AM
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I can't disagree with any of that. 2 possible solutions: - You could try finding a woman who has recently come out of a long term relationship or long marriage? Sometimes you get these 40-50 year old women who were in a very long marriage, but it just didn't work out. Like Melinda Gates. She was married to Bill Gates for 30-ish years, and probably didn't sleep around before that (she seems traditional). These women often have grown up kids who left home or no kids at all. - You said you were mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:02 AM
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That's true. Always ask yourself "would this woman have been attracted to me when I had nothing, when I was unemployed and poor and no status?". If the answer is no, don't enter any sort of relationship with her. That's why many of these male celebrities marry their childhood sweethearts - because those women were with him from the beginning, when he was a nobody, before he got famous. The men who don't do that, usually their love lives are trainwrecks, filled with divorces and women using him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:38 PM
1

Oh :( Do you think you will ever have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:34 PM
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Nice, sounds like you're doing the right thing! I hate it when people start paying attention to you once you acquire resources and status. It shows how utterly shallow most people are, even though they virtue signal that they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:11 PM
2

Do you think that's why these red pill men like Rich Cooper, Better Bachelor and Rollo Tomassi are having what appear to be mid life crises?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:08 PM
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I don't know, I'm asking you haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:26 PM
2

I went to university and I experienced none of that. You still need good looks, outgoing and charismatic personality. 80/20 rule dominates at university as well. More like 90/10 or 95/5.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:24 PM
1

But you can give up the child to adoption! :p
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:31 PM
2

Do you have any evidence that men are killing themselves for this reason, in large numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:28 PM
2

I've heard Jordan Peterson say a few times that it gets really lonely if you don't have a family after about the age of 45. I think he's speaking mainly about women, but I'm sure for many men it's a similar situation. Would you say this is true? And can I predict if it will be true for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:01 PM
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Yeah. Most women won't do that. But it's great when you find one who does. Sex is a hundred times better with a woman who puts in effort and looks like she actually wants to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:20 PM
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That's because success with women is largely down to genetics. You're either good with women and attractive to them, or you're not. You can learn it to some extent. You can improve your attractiveness to some extent. But there will always be those who struggle badly. Just like someone with an IQ of 75 would immensely struggle being a rocket engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:14 PM
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Yeah those men might EVENTUALLY find some low quality woman much later in life, but they missed out on all their early years because women ignored them. It's awful to go through your teens and 20's (when you're horniest and want sex the most) and have no one ever to do it with. You're being ignored because girls would prefer to attention whore on social media and go for the very top percentage of men. That's what most men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:35 PM
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It doesn't need to be numerically screwed. Women are mostly all going for that top percentage of men. If you're not in that percentage, it doesn't matter whether women outnumber men 2 to 1, you won't have success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:42 AM
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Most women aren't like that. Most women think "oh he didn't try to have sex with me, he must not be interested in me" and move on to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:02 AM
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Ugh. After 6 months this is what I’m experiencing and it’s fucking terrifying. I’m ready to try an escort just to make sure I can still perform. I'm past that point sadly, although not a virgin. If you want to discuss it some more, PM me. I’m tryin’ Ringo. I’m tryin’ real hard. It's because no one cares about sexless people (and by people, I mean men, because women can get it whenever). They'll either say no one owes you sex, or just laugh at you and ignore you, or gaslight you and say it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:49 AM
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For category 1, when someone doesn't have sex for so long, their body eventually gets used to it and thoughts about sex and erections become almost non-existent. Your dick eventually becomes limp and almost never gets an erection. That's why so many virgin men experience erectile dysfunction - they don't have sex for so long, their dick doesn't know how to properly work around a woman. No one cares if someone isn't having sex. It's not something you can complain about openly and get any sympathy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:51 AM
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No it wasn't, it was a deflection of why can't men care for female issues. Address the issue being discussed please.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:44 AM
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Why do you just deflect rather than address the issue we are discussing - why can't women empathize with any male experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:31 AM
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This is just my opinion, but only change it if you do it to please yourself, not for anyone else. You are the one who should be happy with the results, not anyone else, YOU. What if a guy is happy if it produces results that attract women? Doing it for yourself is fantasy talk. I could be a fat blob and be happy with myself. Is anyone else going to want to be around me? Probably not. So then I'm eventually going to feel awful because no one likes me, so it forces me to change into something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:01 PM
0

Do you like your ass eaten?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:29 AM
1

No because men can parent easily (again you are unable to read).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:30 PM
7

Does anyone think Heard isn't lying? Every comment I've read online is in support of Depp. Don't think I've seen a single comment supporting Heard. This includes comments even from other women. Maybe some feminist nutjobs believe her, not sure, but I've not seen any myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:55 PM
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Yeah no sh*t, that's why I said 99% men, can't you read? There are obviously A FEW women in these jobs, but it's highly male dominated. You can go into a computer science lecture at any university and it will be 200 males and about 2 women. So when you take away men from these jobs, you are left with almost zero women and society collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:51 PM
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At least she actually admitted it though. Other women will virtue signal and lie. That's why we need communities like the red pill to tell men the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:48 PM
1

Sigh, you didn't read anything I wrote. You're being intentionally obtuse because you're desperate too win the argument. I never mentioned anything about leaders. Go back and read the list of jobs I wrote. And I already told you men can look after children just fine (the gay couple example), their time is simply taken up with their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:41 PM
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It's because they find out that women are nothing like what society told them they were like. You won't understand anyway, no point in having that conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:21 PM
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I see. Well I'd love to see some genuine less attractive women, like 2/10 and 3/10 level of attractiveness, but almost never see any. Can't swipe right on these so-called "ugliest women" if I don't see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:54 PM
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They want men who are even more masculine. They are always looking for better than themselves and won't settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:14 AM
1

I think you underestimate how many visibly overweight women don't clean themselves properly. If they can't even be bothered to look after their weight, chances are they are also not looking after their hygeine and cleanliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:48 AM
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No, nihilistic because they learn about female sexual nature and how they view men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:31 AM
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But not in the jobs that keep society running, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:17 AM
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HasanAbi? I looked him up. He looks like a dork, although maybe that's cos he's wearing silly goofy glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:18 AM
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Where are the ugly women on dating apps anyway? I'm swiping and barely see any ugly women on those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:13 AM
1

If a woman is visibly overweight, chances are she hasn't wiped the shit out of her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:11 AM
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Men can look after children. In current society, they're just too busy working to make money. But have a gay couple, one going to work and the other staying at home, they would do just fine. You're really clutching at straws here, lmao. Can women man the oil rigs, keep the electricity grid running, program the computers, construct the houses, build the essential household appliances? These are the real jobs which keep society running and I don't see women doing any of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:44 PM
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Men keep society running. All the essential jobs are 99% filled by men, men pay far more in taxes and consume far less in welfare. Without men, women would be utterly screwed but without women, society would still function to a reasonable level.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:31 PM
1

Even 1k subs on Patreon is great. $4.5k a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:27 PM
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He's making loads then. $9500 per month. That's $114,000 a year just from Patreon alone. Then add on his Youtube income which probably brings that to $150,000. Is that correct? That's fantastic money just for talking into the camera about women and relationships and bringing up a few studies here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:47 PM
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Yeah I know. This thread is discussing the limitations of red pill theory. They don't properly take into account 2 very important limiting factors - genetics and upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:55 PM
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Why didn't I get into this game 2-3 years ago? That's what I'm asking myself. Seems like it's very easy to just milk a load of sexually frustrated gullible suckers out of their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:53 PM
2

So he's making a minimum of (2000*5) - 500 = $9,500 per month on Patreon? Am I interpreting that correctly? Not sure he has merchandise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:47 PM
1

Huh? I think you misunderstood the point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:44 PM
1

Make America Great Again, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:21 AM
1

Ok. It seems like live streams on youtube are the way to go then? People sending you money just to get something read out on live stream. I used to see guys sending in $200 superchats to Fresh and Fit just to say some random red pill quote. Makes me want to milk those suckers out of their money from superchats lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:15 AM
1

Ok. He supposedly does this for a living so he must be making some revenue from somewhere else. He has a patreon but I can't imagine that makes much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:05 AM
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For youtube, does anyone know what percentage cut the content creator makes from a superchat? Say someone sends a $10 superchat, how much of that goes to youtube and how much goes to the creator?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:02 AM
1

Ok thanks. I'm not sure if I will get into the red pill space though, I'll have to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:18 AM
1

I see. Well there is certainly a market for sexually unsuccessful men, especially with regards to producing content where they feel like they can "get one over" or "get revenge" on modern women and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:53 AM
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Great website thanks. I looked at Alexander Grace. Yearly earnings are estimated to be as low as $2.6k and as high as $41.5k (US dollars). That's with a subscriber count of 233k, 462 videos and a decent number of videos having 6 figures views and 1 video having 7 figure views. Why the big range of his earnings? How much do you think he would be making - closer to the higher end or lower end of that range?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:40 AM
1

Because those men are actually stupid enough to believe other men abused those women, when most of the time it's just those women have mental issues + consistently pick men with red flags. Therefore these women must be "saved" and "protected" from all those evil abusive men. That's not to take away from genuine victims of abuse, that is a serious issue in itself. But the amount of women I've heard that were in abusive relationships, you would think every man out there is an abuser. Women have fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:02 PM
1

No, it's just what people think. You can pretend genetics doesn't matter for muscle building, but it does. It's why all guys in the gym don't look amazing and sexy, even though they're lifting with high intensity and on very similar or identical programs to the fitness influencers you see on instagram. Also they don't take steroids like the fitness influencers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:56 PM
1

How many are needed for 6 figures?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:51 PM
0

Their self improvement advice is very vague as well. Beyond dressing better, lifting and making more money, they offer zero specifics. Anyone can tell you these things will help you, you don't need a red pill to do that. I see red pill as more of a cult in order to "get one over" on modern women and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:48 PM
1

Fair enough. There's no data out there on this (probably for good reason, otherwise the market would get saturated with people wanting to be youtube creators) so I just have to ask around. Do you think the red pill creators get anything in the way of sponsors and advertisers? That content is seen as controversial and I doubt sponsors would want their brands associated with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:46 PM
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Is it true you can make 6 figures on youtube with only 100k subscribers? That's what someone just told me. That's a low number, I thought it would be much higher. Even someone like Alexander Grace, who talks into the camera about women and provides a few studies, is at almost 250k subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:28 PM
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No, it mostly just made me realize how shitty the opposite sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:26 PM
1

Proof that you only need 100,000 subscribers to make 6 figures. I didn't realize the bar was that low. Sure 100,000 subscribers is a decent amount, but I thought you'd need way way more to make 6 figures. I was always told that it's extremely difficult to make money off youtube and you need huge numbers of views and subscribers to rake in a decent income.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:53 PM
2

Do you have proof of this? 100k subs is not a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:57 AM
1

Interesting. Just curious why haven't you set up your own youtube channel offering hope for something to people? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:21 AM
2

That's for girls, right? This is a thread about guys. Nice link though, interesting to see and also very disturbing how much one can change their appearance through makeup. The before and after look like different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:54 AM
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I guess I don't have 2 brain cells then :( I don't know how much youtube people make. The fitness creators look to be living great lives in their mansions. Samuels had almost 1.5 million subs as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:36 AM
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Bodybuilding is lifting to put on muscle to improve your looks. Exactly what red pill recommends guys to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:36 PM
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The red pill assumes you don't have those disadvantages/have those advantages, but you were just taught wrong by society about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:24 PM
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Yeah I know the point you were making. Being active is so vague and could mean any number of things, but bodybuilding to put on muscle is very specific and is not ideal for all guys because of genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:19 PM
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It’s a massive waste of time and energy to worry about this. That must be why people ask me why I don't look like the fitness influencers on Instagram even though I've been lifting for years. I have to tell them it's genetics and drugs - which it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:11 PM
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Less than 1k to his name, wtf? Was he overspending? I can't imagine his youtube channel wasn't earning him lots.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:09 PM
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Ok. I can't believe their viewers can't see this. Or maybe they can see it, I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:08 PM
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Would coitus be achieved if he didn't have money?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:21 PM
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Where did I give that advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:20 PM
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Well this post is about men, but yes women would rather change other people's perceptions of beauty ("big is beautiful") than change themselves. The difference is that fat women are still desired by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:19 PM
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I also dated an extrovert woman for a bit and she couldn't possibly comprehend how I didn't want to speak to her every day and chat about our day. It was hilarious. She lived a completely different reality to me, thinking everyone wants to talk at every opportunity and if you don't, you're either rude or there's something deeply wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:15 PM
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You don't need to have knowledge of muscle insertions, you can tell just by looking at someone. Can they get a 6 pack or do their abs look like a jumbled up mesh? That's genetics. Is their waist naturally wide even after dieting down to low body fat? That's genetics. Is their clavicle narrow? (the bones that determine shoulder width) That's genetics. If you have these things, it's really difficult to look good even after putting on muscle. Your genetics determine how well the muscle sits on your…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:11 PM
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sigh, you just deflected like many people do on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:02 PM
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Thanks bro, exactly right! No one gives up straight away, they give up after years of self improvement and trying to find solutions. When you put in the exact same effort and variables as someone else, but their results are far better, what is the reason for that? It can only be genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:59 PM
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Don't forget to brush your teeth too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:53 PM
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"All men are not created equal" so then you give blanket advice to lift. See the contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:46 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. Yes when people get to adulthood, bullying doesn't exist so much. People will just avoid you instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:46 PM
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The suit made him look like a try-hard, I agree. Apparently the girl who he had a heart attack on was an onlyfans girl who he paid for sex. Not sure how true that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:43 PM
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Unless you're an unemployed recluse with no friends and you don't wash yourself and dress like a slob, then yes you do things for other people's approval/recognition/acceptance as well as for yourself. It is not mutually exclusive "I do X for myself and Y for other people". Most things are a mixture between doing it for yourself and doing things for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:36 PM
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Because bullying is a sign that you're not wanted by anyone. The bullies were just courageous enough to show it by bullying. Other people simply keep their opinions of you to themselves and avoid you. You can say "why does their opinion matter" all you want, but when no one wants anything to do with you, you have a clear problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:30 PM
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You just proved my point!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:46 PM
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He looked ok for a mid 50's man, although nothing special. Not sure if he worked out. He was always wearing a suit for some reason. I can't comment on his finances. If he had a youtube channel with millions of views and subscribers, he must have been making decent money I imagine? No clue how much one would make with a youtube channel like that. And yes he was divorced twice with a kid he didn't see. I'm not sure if that was because he wasn't allowed to see the kid or he couldn't be bothered to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:44 PM
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Because you told me: but I’m in shape and have a decent personality Extroverts don't realize they are extroverts until they spend enough time around an introvert. I spent time around extroverts before (as an introvert) and the extroverts just cannot cope with it. They can't understand why I wouldn't want to talk to people. They can't understand why I would feel high stress around people. People are really bad at recognizing their own genetic advantages. I believe the phrase is "privilege is invi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:40 PM
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Doing it for yourself and doing it for other people are inter-twined. It's not one or the other. We do many things to get recognized by others. Life would be completely dull if we did everything for ourselves and no one paid attention to any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:35 PM
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Sounds like you're a natural extrovert and have great genetics for muscle building.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:27 PM
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Everyone always knows 1 guy who "slays" even though he's short ugly and bald, it's like a meme on this sub lol. "But but but I know a short ugly guy who gets laid all the time!!!" Anyway congrats! Do you know any other guys the same or are you an exception? And do you compensate heavily in other ways, like being very jacked, extreme extrovert or make lots of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:18 PM
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That's probably why mainstream society never tells us this stuff. It would make too many people lose hope. :P But this is a good place to discuss it because it covers issues that mainstream society is reluctant to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:15 PM
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Yeah I never disputed people can't improve. It's whether they can improve to the level that it actually makes enough of a difference - and that will be limited by genetics and upbringing, more than most people want to believe. We have ignorant people in this subreddit all the time calling guys "lazy", not understanding that there is a vast difference in genetic potential and how your upbringing made a huge impact on you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:11 PM
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No one starts out as telling themselves they are worthless loser. They do it after many poor life experiences. Bullying is one way of people telling you that you're genetically inferior. After bullying, it's hard not to tell yourself you're a worthless loser, because everyone else has told you that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:03 PM
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You could have fooled me, judging by most of the stuff I read on here and the red pill subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:57 PM
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There's no point in addressing things you can't change. There is, because it might be limiting your success to such a large degree, that any self-improvement you do is meaningless. Because that one thing stands out like a sore thumb and negates any self improvement you do in other areas. If you see what I mean? I think you covered this in the rest of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:55 PM
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I'm not suggesting a fight. More of a middle ground between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:43 PM
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So you believe that genetics and upbringing can be ignored, it's all about how you feel and what you tell yourself? If you tell yourself "I am a high value male", you will become one. Am I correct or are you saying something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:41 PM
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Because they need to in order to survive, but that doesn't mean they feel good. Most people feel like sh*t every day and social media shoves the genetically elite into people's faces every day. No wonder mental health is such a massive problem now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:32 PM
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For some it's very easy. For others it's immensely difficult. Mostly comes down to genetics sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:08 PM
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Yeah but we're headed for extinction with the way the birth rates have been continually falling everywhere in the world. Doesn't look like we will get above replacement level in the west ever again, and once 3rd world countries get below replacement level (which they are headed towards), we can't replenish it with immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:01 PM
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Yep exactly. It's extremely disingenuous and insulting to our intelligence to suggest they are fighting for equality for both sexes, when you can quite clearly see they are only fighting for one sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:59 AM
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but seems like Mr.Samuels didn’t even keep true to this word 🤣 None of these red pill guys do. Rollo Tomassi is in a sexless marriage with a woman his age, Rich Cooper divorced a single mom and almost certainly does not get laid at all, Donovan Sharpe is with a mid 40's post wall woman, Fresh and Fit use sugar daddy websites to find sex. Yet they're telling men to have sex with young hot women. Even though they can't do it themselves. Kind of strange, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:57 AM
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Ok. Interesting how that other person couldn't answer that question straight, she had to deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:50 AM
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So are you saying that feminism isn't about helping bring about equality for both sexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:27 AM
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I'm not from there sadly. But thanks for the offer, it means a lot!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:26 AM
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Yeah sure I guess. You probably live in a different country to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:22 AM
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You can run through a bunch of girls as a dude but you would have to pay escorts sadly. Or somehow go to nightclubs and bars and pluck up the courage to approach many girls before one agrees to go home with you. Although I tried going into bars and nightclubs on my own as a guy and the bouncers always rejected me. They said I need some friends to go in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:14 AM
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For a youtube content creator, do you pretty much have to show your face in order to get a lot of views and subscribers? I notice any videos I watch from big content creators, they almost always show their face to the camera. It's like just seeing their face talking and showing expressions gets millions more views.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:08 AM
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So are you saying that feminism isn't about helping bring about equality for both sexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:06 AM
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But wasn't he one of these supposed "high value males" who was having sex with young hot women all the time? Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but it seemed like he wanted to portray he was that kind of man, even if he wasn't. Some people were also saying he paid hookers for sex, which doesn't seem very high value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:03 AM
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It's sad because if men had the same sex drives as women and didn't bother to pursue like women do, the human race would go extinct. In fact it's going extinct now if you look at the birth rates in most countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:02 AM
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No one with more than 2 brain cells thinks that men and women are the same. We are very different. We are equal under the law, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:42 AM
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Any man can pay a young escort to fuck them, that's no achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:49 PM
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Yeah. I think this is a good topic for a separate thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:42 PM
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Men who are fat: "get in shape fatty, why are you so fat, get in the gym, no wonder you're an incel" Women who are fat: "waaaah body shaming, body positivity, people can look good and be healthy at different body shapes!!!" Would you say this is an accurate representation of how men and women are treated about their body? There's no acceptance of different body types for men. They are either attractive and in shape or they're not and no one coddles them. Women cry about people treating them diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:39 PM
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In the real world and the internet world, no they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:03 AM
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Yes if they want a family which I think most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:01 AM
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But how ignorant do you have to be to think women are just as strong as men? You don't even need to be taught this. It's just basic common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:33 AM
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In other words, they are idiots who can't accept reality? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:24 AM
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Don't deflect - the discussion is about women fighting for men. Women can still fight for men whether or not men fight for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:41 AM
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Did you think it was death ears instead of deaf ears, or was it a spelling mistake? Be honest :P
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:40 AM
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No idea who tf Sam Harris is. Am I supposed to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:43 PM
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"Death ears" you might want to change the title. It's deaf ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:11 PM
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Men have always fought for women. It's always women and children first, men last. They go to wars to defend women from enemies. They white knight for women in comments sections on social media. They fight for feminists at those feminist rallies. Men don't get the same treatment. Men are all on their own. No one will defend men. No one will fight for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:09 PM
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Yeah. But try telling that to the people here who are adamant to believe that women have equal or higher sex drives. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:58 PM
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Why are straight male escorts almost non-existent then? Why are male incels common but female incels non-existent? I thought you said women have higher sex drives. Then we should see the evidence of that in society. But we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:51 PM
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That's true. Also they had 1 boyfriend in the past who rejected them for sex once and now they think they have higher sex drives than all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:45 PM
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Don't you mean "and women have a preference for older men"? Yes it's rather strange how none of them can get younger women. It's much like the 40 year old single women who are still pining for a hot rich Chad to be their boyfriend. These men are still pining over young women who don't want them. Rich Cooper would not be as angry as he is if he was getting laid by hot young women, or even any woman at all for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:43 PM
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Why do more women base their lives around finding a man if men benefit from relationships more??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:36 PM
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I never understood why there are people who think women have equal/higher sex drives to men. Can you tell me why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:28 PM
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The vast vast majority of people don't get remembered by anyone when they die (other than close family and friends obviously). So he's done better in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:17 PM
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Because when you learn the truth about female nature and just human behaviour in general, it makes you feel very depressed and often nihilistic. That's why these things are not mainstream. Imagine if every guy out there was red pilled in this way? Most would lose the will to produce for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:41 PM
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Rich Cooper - married a single mom, got divorced, almost certainly doesn't get laid, recycles the same red pill content on youtube (which is largely just rehashed from Rollo Tomassi's books, sprinkled in with "do the work" said in an angry tone) Fresh and Fit - use sugar daddy websites in order to get laid Donovan Sharpe - former convicted criminal, married a post-wall mid 40's woman called Devon
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:31 PM
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Ok fair enough. They always go on about legalized prostitution on this subreddit, which makes me assume most here are from USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:05 PM
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Ok. And you're a becky bux, so you use your money to attract guys. I think that's what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:53 PM
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Ok nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:49 PM
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Is it true that Canadians are "nice polite people" or is that stereotype a load of bollocks? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:48 PM
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Cool, what brings you here as a British woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:46 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:45 PM
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Ok. People need to have a flag next to their name because cultures are different. Some advice people give is awful, until they say they are from Eastern Europe or Brazil, then it makes sense for their own culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:45 PM
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Is there anyone who isn't from the USA on this subreddit? It makes me wonder why am I even on this subreddit as someone from the UK, when there's almost no one from the UK on here. Granted the UK is quite similar to the USA in terms of culture and dating. The subreddit should be renamed "USAdatingdebate".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:38 PM
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I find it sad when women describe the kind of men they like. They want him to be kind, funny, sweet and so on. It's just assumed he is good looking, tall and great body already. This leads so many men to get confused, thinking to themselves "well I am kind and funny and sweet, why is she not picking me and going for those good looking asshole jerks who treat her terribly?".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:07 PM
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I've personally only looked at prices online. Do you mean walking around the streets at night looking for some drugged-up whore to suck your dick for a few quid? Or a dodgy, cheap, unlicensed brothel? That sounds awful. I'd rather masturbate in the comfort of my own room.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:38 PM
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Well I am in the UK (legal prostitution) and young men seem frustrated here too. We had an incel attack last year. The only difference is guns are banned here, so shootings are rare. The price of escorts is too high for most men to see regularly. I spoke to one escort before and she says her regulars are old businessmen and old married men - hence they have money. She said she rarely sees younger men. This what you'll find if you speak to any escort. The clients are mostly old men who are alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:25 PM
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Stop with the whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:20 PM
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Interesting. It's really depressing how much drugs help you with muscle building and losing fat. It's a massive cheat code. Of course women don't care, they just want the end product of a hot man. This must be why women are so picky nowadays and unwilling to settle and complaining where are all the good men. This liberated sexual marketplace has distorted many women's perceptions of what an average, non-steroid using man should look like. The Red Pill never talks about genetics. They hate to foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:10 PM
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Is that actually serious? What's your body fat? So you have a lot of muscle as well, or just skinny and ripped? Maintaining sub 7-8% body fat as a natural is extremely difficult. There was one guy on youtube who tried to maintain 5% bodyfat for 1-2 years (forget his name, he was an asian dude) and he said it massively affected his mood, he lost concentration regularly, found it difficult to focus on regular things. According to the big youtube fitness video creators, you will personally hit a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:58 PM
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Perhaps my porn preferences are different to most men. I have no clue. :P There does seem to be more female centric and amateur porn these days though. It's moving away from just male desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:21 PM
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They don't know that beforehand though. Yeah that's why it sucks. How am I supposed to signal that I can do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:20 PM
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I can manage it although I can't speak on behalf of other men. The safety argument is weird. They feel less safe with the skinny runt than the massive aggressive meathead. That's why I never took the argument about safety seriously. They apply the safety argument to men they just don't find attractive. If you're talking about risk in terms of pregnancy, well they have birth control for that. And morning after pill. And abortion. And just the fact you can't get pregnant most days of the month any…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:21 PM
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Well it didn't work for me -shrugs- I can't recommend something that never worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:00 PM
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Why are you having sex? Don't watch straight porn made by mainstream porn companies, lmao. Watch porn made by women or amateur porn where the woman is clearly enjoying herself. That's what I watch anyway. The stuff like bangbros and naughty america is awful. I used to like that when I was a horny 17 year old who didn't know any better, now I watch stuff with real women and real orgasms (although I'm sure women are still faking some of the orgasms, sadly).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:57 PM
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Yep, I'm in shape. I'd guess somewhere around 15% bodyfat (I can see some slight abs, some slight obliques and a bit of vascularity in my biceps and forearms). I'm not as muscular as I used to be but I'm gaining it back fast (due to muscle memory). Decent sized shoulders and pecs if I wear a tight-ish top and I have the v-taper thing judging by what I see in the mirror and my measurements I've taken of my body. Let me tell you, it has mattered jack sh*t with women. Women have never cared. I've n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:50 PM
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A lot of them, I don't know how many. Then others were just tall and good looking but probably not on roids. Just face it that different environments attract different groups of people. Nightclubs generally attract good looking people. You won't see short average looking nerdy dudes in nightclubs. People go to the environments where they fit in best.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:54 AM
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They were when I went to them on a Saturday night. 6ft+ dudes who had all obviously taken roids. Then obviously the women in their skirts that barely covered their body. This was a mainstream nightclub playing mainstream dance and pop tunes. Maybe you are thinking of a different nightclub or you live in a part of the world where such clubs don't exist. This was my experience of a nightclub and I hated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:47 AM
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Nightclubs are for good looking extroverts. There's a reason why they are filled with 6ft+ muscular guys on steroids for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:29 AM
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I just don't see how dancing in a horribly crowded environment, with music that is blaring out so loud that you can barely even hear someone talk, is fun. Ordering drinks at the bar is an absolute nightmare as well. It's all just one giant shitshow in a nightclub and I wouldn't go there unless I was looking to get laid or some attention from the opposite sex. It's a meat market, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:15 AM
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Interesting. Well if you're ever up for something, I'm here! :P I hate conversation like that too. No need to ask all those things if you're having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:10 AM
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Yawn, you're just spouting mainstream bluepill dating advice. That stuff never helped anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:30 AM
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No, from women on reddit. Although I found out the one I talked to today was actually a man, despite speaking as if he was a woman and having the name "CocoBabe" in his username. He fooled me I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:29 AM
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Your post just comes up as 5 squares for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:28 AM
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Damn, when you put it like that, sex sounds so depressing for a man. It's posts like these that make me lose my erection and never want to interact with women again lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:26 AM
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Maybe. I think most women hate the side effects of birth control and love skin on skin contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:03 PM
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Ok. Lets not bother with sex at all. We can all use sex toys. Then the human race will die.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:41 PM
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Yes I have and I hated it. Not my idea of fun. I only went to those things to get laid, but I was never able to. Best I got was a couple of kisses from drunk girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:40 PM
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Well I wasn't sure. I was mainly asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:46 PM
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I've never banged a girl who looks like that. I think I need to at some point, even if I have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:44 PM
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Some use it. I'm sure most don't like the side effects and prefer skin on skin contact. There's also the argument that women are biologically programmed to believe they will get pregnant, even if they won't get pregnant due to birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:38 PM
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Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Men don't really want a woman who just wants sex, as much as they say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:35 PM
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You spoke like you were a woman and you had CocoBabe in your username. And you're a man. Damn you fooled me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:32 PM
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Men can use a fleshlight or sex doll if they want pleasure. What's your point? Neither sex needs the other because both of them have a multitude of toys to get off with instead? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:22 PM
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Ever heard of birth control? Sex never has to make babies anymore. Guess you're still living in the 1950's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:15 PM
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The "no hookups" is bollocks though, don't take it at face value. There are guys who hooked up with women who wrote that on their profile, so it doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:13 PM
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Maybe women are also very wary that average men can get attached easily? Because an average man has few options, he is more likely to bug the woman constantly for more sex and other stuff. Even if she just wanted 1 night of sex and nothing more. This seems to be the implication from the women I spoke to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:53 PM
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Why do clubs and bars even exist in that case? Seems like clubs and bars were predominantly used to find sex or get attention from the opposite sex. None of that is needed now we have social media and online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:48 PM
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Who says so exactly? Men of below average attractiveness still get laid. This was a new perspective I heard from a few women themselves. They said they would have just sex, if it meant the man didn't get attached and constantly want approval and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:44 PM
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I see. I wonder if many women think like this. This could be a subject for a new thread "Would women really be happy with just sex from men?".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:30 PM
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He also needs to be decent looking, right? Looks get you in the door, then all those other things matter after that. Most guys don't even pass the looks threshold. I don't even know what self accepting means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:17 PM
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I see. But you also said it would be cool if all men wanted was sex. How do you mean? I thought women wanted more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:02 PM
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How do they want to be seduced?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:50 PM
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Those girls are bitter and jaded too. They just look hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:32 PM
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Women respond that way because they don't care. They couldn't care less about men's problems. They enjoy the advantage they have and aren't prepared to give it up. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:31 PM
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Is the truth now misandrist? No wonder no one takes feminism and wokeism seriously. Anything you don't like to hear you just label as misogynist, sexist, racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:43 PM
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So pretty much only people who immigrated from different countries, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:41 PM
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The criteria which you measure your worth changes as you get older. From children up to 16/17, it's how popular you are. From 17/18 up to mid-late 20's, it's how many women can you sleep with. From late 20's onwards, it's how much money you make and what your career is like. Then when you're in 40's/50's and older, it becomes more focused on if you have kids, what your grandkids are like. The ages might change slightly, but generally speaking this is how you measure your worth. It's quite ironic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:56 AM
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I see. Have you tried to have sex with them and they rejected you? Sounds like they're just too shy to do it with you in particular. Or maybe (no offense) you are ugly and they are hot and they just don't feel that way about you. However in the vast vast majority of cases, men do want sex with women who they are friendly with. Not saying these very rare exceptions can't exist, but this rule will hold true in 99.9% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:58 PM
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who married before age 18 Who tf gets married before age 18?? No one in western society that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:43 PM
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These are the arguments I've heard for why dating an older woman is better: - she is confident and doesn't have insecurities like younger women - she knows what she's doing in the bedroom - she can hold better and more mature conversation ​ If you don't want kids, she doesn't come with a load of entitlement and mental baggage, and she's kept herself in somewhat decent shape, older women can be great. The trouble is that finding an older woman like this is close to impossible and the few who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:40 PM
3

So I take it you agree with me and you agree with the science, judging by your sarcastic response?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:30 PM
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Sounds like you're someone who slept with a lot of people and want to convince yourself it doesn't matter. It does matter, a lot. Men are biologically hardwired to avoid such women for LTRs and marriage, whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:54 PM
3

"My body my choice" "You're not entitled to sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:53 PM
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Lets just put it this way - if men have the choice of marriage between a woman who had lots of partners and a woman who had few partners, they would pick the one with few partners. Can't argue with biology. Men are hardwired to find this kind of behaviour disgusting in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:51 PM
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That must be awful. You're still with her even after all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:45 PM
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Yep, you're naive. They've learned to control their urges, that's all, plus they're getting sex from elsewhere so their desires have already been satiated by the time they interact with you. They would have sex with you under the right circumstances and they definitely thought of having sex with you when they first met you. You don't understand how men work I'm afraid. Your posts here show that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:23 PM
1

So free speech doesn't exist then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:20 PM
1

I know a few guys who are nice to me even through they don’t want to fuck me so I disagree with your premise. They're either gay, have no sex drive or you're incredibly naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:59 AM
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Why do people talk about "free speech" as if it actually exists? No where has true free speech, not on the internet or in real life. Reddit is heavily censored with huge numbers of rules for what you can and can't say. You can't say a bunch of things in real life without being stopped or punished for it. Free speech is a fantasy concept that doesn't exist in reality. Who agrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:43 AM
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Most men realize this, they're just trying to make the best out of the situation they can. This is the best they can do with a woman. It's either that or being alone for their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:28 AM
0

Sounds like you have an agenda against it. You feel threatened by men improving their lives and becoming sexually successful, so you want to get rid of it. Anyway this will be my last response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:24 PM
1

So 1 or 2 people from a group tries to kill someone, we should ban it entirely? Ban Christianity because there are Christians out there who killed someone? Ban Islam because there's Muslims who killed someone? Nice logic there dude. You don't ban an entire group for 1 or 2 idiots in it, otherwise most things on earth would be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:10 PM
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Those "lots of people" are women and a few blue pill men who just don't like the red pill and similar groups, so they'll twist or manufacture reasons for why these groups should be removed from reddit. None of it is "sexist", it's men creating strategies to help navigate modern dating, just the same as FDS women create strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:00 PM
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No not everybody comes here for entertainment (which is basically another way of saying "I like to troll this subreddit", lets be honest). And if you do come for "entertainment", then you're a nuisance who should find something better to do. The clue is in the subreddit name - purple pill debate. Not purple pill entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:57 PM
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One big problem is people are wary of men. They aren't as friendly and open to men as they are to women. People start conversations with women. They don't with men. That's why you rarely ever hear of women complaining about lack of social life, even introverted women, but for men it's quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:36 PM
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Post some evidence that any of this happened first of all. And post some evidence also that it's a large majority of the subreddit that's doing it, not just 1 or 2 bad eggs among a population of millions. Then we can talk. Too many accusations to fit your own narrative, but no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:59 PM
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Yep, you've lost the argument so now you have to resort to sarcasm. So sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:53 PM
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No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying women in their 20's are desired more, for both sex and relationships. That doesn't mean 30+ women can't be desired, but just not as much. Gosh the reading comprehension of people on this subreddit is worse than a 5 year old at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:51 PM
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You're clearly trying to be a dick here. You obviously think gaining muscle is unimportant and pointless, even though everyone on this sub says you should be self-improving by going to the gym. Can't win, can we? We go to the gym: "muscles are not important, it's personality!!!" We don't go to the gym: "stupid fat incels, if only they went to the gym and took care of themselves". Get rid of the chip on your shoulder and realize that research like this is relevant to a lot of people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:28 PM
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Interesting how no one is ever able to address all the horrible disgusting sexist stuff that gets posted on FDS. The only argument is "well red pill/incels/mgtow do X". It's like a subtle acknowledgment that FDS post terrible things, but because 1 other person does something worse, then it's all ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:24 PM
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Because it's easy to isolate the biceps with bicep curls, whereas glutes are much more difficult to isolate (movements like squats work the legs as well as the glutes, and for some people the legs will be more dominant). Building muscle is very important for sports and also social media and gyms are filled with vanity lifters (men and women) who want better bodies. To claim that scientists are just "wasting their time" on an issue like this is so stupid and ignorant of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:02 PM
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Why are there disgusting sexist things written on FDS and it's allowed to stay up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:51 PM
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You don't actually come here to debate though, lets be honest. Women admit they come here for entertainment and boredom. They tell men to brush their teeth and take a shower as advice for being successful with women. This isn't debate, it's just being a nuisance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:50 PM
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Plenty of stuff is restricted. There was a thread a few weeks ago started by a guy who admitted he was autistic and he talked about his struggles with doing things that other people take for granted. A mod closed it after a few hours and I asked why. She said because it attracts incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:05 PM
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Ahhh see there's your problem. Red pill ideas about things are just bad. When I say in this subreddit that lifting weights hasn't helped me with women, there's always guys chiming in saying that they've been lifting and they've noticed a big difference in attention from women. One guy yesterday said that he's been lifting for 1.5 years and he gets cat-called by women. But there's never guys who chime in and say it made no difference. That makes me wonder why my experience is so different. Why I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:56 PM
1

1 exception doesn't make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:49 PM
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They measured to what extent genetics play a role in muscle building, which is an important topic for the entire fitness industry and sports science industry. This is not just a male issue either, many women lift weights too. Although I'm not sure why you're being sexist and claiming a male issue isn't important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:45 PM
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Who the hell promised you that? Many people, in real life and on the internet. The whole red pill says that lifting weights will help with women and there's field reports in that subreddit about how important lifting is for attraction. It just never worked for me for some reason. I would. Muscle mass is a good predictor of longevity Yeah but the way you beat up your body in the gym and eat all that food, it's not really that healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:01 AM
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I'm obviously talking about when you know the other person is a woman. And yes, even if they don't live near you geographically, many men will still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:43 AM
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I do lift for myself now, but I was promised it would help with attracting girls, which it never has done for me. I wouldn't call lifting very heavy weight and eating a lot of food "healthy". That's a myth. If you really just cared about health, you would go swimming and do some light weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:00 PM
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I'm not saying that some men don't agree with women just on the merit of the woman's argument, but in most cases, a man agreeing or sticking up for a woman is because he wants sex from her. Most women don't truly appreciate this until their looks decline in their 30's/40's/50's. They genuinely think that men are being nice to them just out of the goodness of their heart. In that case, men should be equally nice to other men, right? Except they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:40 PM
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Thanks, at least you appreciate what I'm saying, unlike many idiots in this subreddit who think it's just "laziness" or "not putting in the work".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:14 PM
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I don't think I complain any more than the average person (yes I complain on reddit but that's not real life). But does a bit of complaining really negate 2-3 years of lifting? lol People hate a bit of complaining that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:01 PM
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Posture is fine. My hair looks fine as far as I'm aware, I alternate between getting it cut short and then growing it longer. That's my original point - for some guys, lifting weights isn't going to help much. They will put on some strength and muscle but realize that it does nothing to help with women. The right genetics are crucial first and foremost. You've been lifting for only 18 months and you already have women cat-calling you. I have lifted for longer than that and never experienced any …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:57 PM
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Hasn't happened with me, and believe me I'm on a proper training program with heavy compound lifts + isolation movements, I eat well and eat plenty of food, and get sufficient sleep. It's definitely not my lack of effort. I've simply never experienced any extra female attention due to lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:39 PM
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Confirmation bias? No, it's my own lived experience. I still lift, but it's not helped me with women in the way it was promised.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:26 PM
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I have no clue what the issue is. No one tells you what the issue is, you have to guess yourself. I don't look like the fitness influencers on instagram. My body has improved from lifting but not to the point where any woman finds me attractive. I still lift, but it won't help as much as guys think if you don't have good genetics to go along with it (or take steroids, which comes with so many risks to your health). Incels exist because they can't fathom that their romantic problems don't stem fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:22 PM
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Yes of course I've asked women out before. Stop deflecting. Back to the original discussion, lifting weights does not help anywhere near as most guys think it does. Incels would never exist if it was as simple as lifting weights in the gym with a good diet for 2 years. The bar has been raised massively in the last 10-15 years. You now need steroids and fantastic genetics to even be considered as having a nice body. Not saying you can't improve your body from lifting, but you need other things go…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:47 PM
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"Personality" is too much of a vague term that can be interpreted many different ways, so stop using that word. My point is that lifting naturally for a few years does not help with women anywhere near as much as guys think. It helped zilch for me. If it was as simple as lifting for 2 years in the gym, incels would not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:41 PM
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Congratulations, you missed the point of what I said. No one does things for no reason. "For yourself" is not a good enough reason to put significant effort into something. You need more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:12 PM
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That's a myth. They care about your looks just as much as men (your face and height are more important than muscles). They just care about a bunch of others things as well, like money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:11 PM
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So why do feminists never fight for men's rights as well as women's rights? You want equality, lets see you fight for equality across the board and not just in areas where women are disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:01 PM
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Yes exactly, dark skin on women just isn't as desirable as light skin - this is true across different cultures around the world and has been statistically proven through things like online dating, singleton rates and marriage rates. Why? I have no idea why. Why is a strong jawline considered attractive in men, when it has no obvious benefits over a weak jawline? Who knows. There's probably some evolutionary reason why dark skin is seen as less attractive on women, but I don't know that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:53 PM
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Numerous things can put you in the bottom 25%. If you're short height and narrow shoulders with receding hairline, you're in the bottom 25%. The issue of race is a big factor too, although you can't discuss that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:46 PM
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Huh? This is normal makeup as well. Just takes longer to apply and you need to use more of it. Some women are prepared to dedicate 3+ hours a day to painting their face like this, others would prefer to roll out of bed, apply a bit of eyeliner and go about their day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:40 PM
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Humans are naturally wired not to give up. That's why we don't just kill ourselves at the first sign of hardship. If someone has genuinely given up, it's because they had repeated awful experiences after trying to find many solutions to their problems. That's what the idiots on this subreddit fail to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:37 PM
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Stop being a silly little troll and debate normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:33 PM
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All women (and men) are socialized from day one to see men as complete human beings. Everyone is socialized from day one to treat others with respect and decency lol. Nah mate, doesn't sound like you have any experience with women. Women treat men as utterly disposable and most of the time invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:32 PM
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Just lifting weights is not enough anymore. Take this from someone who lifts weights. It has done zero to help my success with women. Women don't even notice or care. This is not through my lack of effort - I lift heavy, have a good training program, I eat well, I get enough sleep. You need more than weights. Strong genetics is absolutely crucial. Most male fitness influencers on social media are taking steroids. Any guy you see in the gym with a really great body, either is taking steroids or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:20 PM
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Why should men treat women as human beings when women don't treat men as human beings? Even the women on this sub say that dick is free and cheap and sperm is plentiful. That tells you all you need to know about how women view men. They view men for their sperm or their wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:03 AM
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Ask yourself why they are angry in the first place. That's the key. No one starts out as angry. Anger develops through persistent bad experiences in life. These are sexually unsuccessful men who eventually want to find answers as to why, and no one in real life ever tells them why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:57 AM
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No one improves just for themselves. They need an incentive. Whether that be women, attention, money, whatever. You need a reason to do something other than "for yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:56 AM
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The Red Pill won't even work for men who are below average genetics. In the bottom 25% of genetics. For those men, Red Pill will never work. They are just screwed whatever they do, however much work they put in. Red Pill assumes you're at least average genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:52 AM
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Only when it benefits them, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:12 AM
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He's just being himself. That's what women say to be, right? But now you're saying he must not be himself and purposefully seek out hobbies and events that have lots of females. So which is it - should he be himself or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:29 AM
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What women could incels have had sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:26 AM
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Stupid strawmen arguments. If you really think that, that is just going to further alienate sexually unsuccessful men and make them further check out of society. Tip number 1 for helping someone or a group of people: don't insult them and belittle them. Try to understand their problems and help them from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:23 AM
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Double standards. Feminism wants double standards and equality only when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:14 PM
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Yeah that's what feminism is. They want equality only when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:40 PM
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"It's normalized because I personally don't wear it. Whatever I personally do is normalized." haha nice logic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:36 PM
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Respond to the points instead of being a child. "Who hurt you?" What are you, an 8 year old in the school playground? This is child talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:28 PM
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WOMEN ARE NOT ALL THE SAME!!! WOMEN ARE NOT SOME MONOLITH!!! That's what women say to men here. So why are you claiming women are a monolith only when it benefits your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:24 PM
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Makeup can transform women's faces. A lot of women look bang average or even hideous without makeup. If you've seen makeup youtube videos, you see that many women look like totally different people with and without makeup. There is too much of an advantage to be had for wearing makeup, so I can't see how women will stop wearing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:56 PM
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I know, so why were you questioning that being heavy = low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:34 PM
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Lifting and eating healthy doesn't work on its own. Take this from someone who lifts and eats healthy. Look at this body fat comparison website: https://dqydj.com/body-fat-percentage-comparison-calculator-by-age/ According to this, I'm in the top 10% of the US for my age group (I live in the UK, but the numbers won't be much different - obesity rates are similar between US and UK). And yet where are all the women who are attracted to me? None. Doesn't mean sh*t to lift and eat healthy. Women don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:46 AM
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You have a habit of not answering questions I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:28 AM
1

Yeah it was! "I'm not going to enrol in that Clown College though... that advertisement had no effect on me whatsoever"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:05 PM
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Ok. Maybe they would still wear clothes for hygiene reasons then. But can you imagine what it looks like? Some else posted a photo. The leggings completely hugged all the contours and crevices, so it looked like they were wearing light blue paint on their bottom half. They must be very comfy, but they completely reveal everything, including the exact shape of their buttcrack and pussy. I noticed it's something more women are wearing nowadays, whereas it didn't used to be as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:05 PM
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Then why ask for a woman's weight if he doesn't think it's connected to her value? He clearly thinks it's an important bit of information that contributes to why she's single, which is why he asks it. Otherwise he wouldn't ask it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:45 PM
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Hers were more revealing than that. Hers were like this, maybe even more revealing than this: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0257/1406/5490/products/Rosie_Scrunch_Butt_Leggings_Gray.jpg?v=1578530115 Hugging the whole buttcrack. Yours are quite tame by comparison. Is that really you btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:39 AM
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Nice. Was she fat? It does feel like many women would prefer to wear nothing at all. In an ideal world, they would want to wear nothing at all, all the attractive men to stare at them, all the average men and unattractive men to mind their own business and keep society running, and all the other women to admire them or get jealous. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:31 AM
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Mind if you take a picture? :P But these leggings were more revealing than normal ones. They hugged the whole buttcrack, as if she wasn't wearing anything at all. It looked like light blue paint on her legs and butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:24 AM
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Er yeah, that's how men work. You think they do these things out of the goodness of their heart? No, they're thinking of their own self interest, or in this case with their dick. That's why women get so mad in their 30's and 40's. They realize "oh shit, men were nice to me all that time because they wanted to get in my pants. now I'm older and look worse, no wonder they're not nice to me anymore".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:59 AM
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Why are they doing it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:56 AM
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That's what I'm saying! I'm sure a lot of women would just prefer not to wear anything on their bottom half. These leggings looked like nothing more than blue paint on her skin, if you can imagine what that would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:54 AM
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There was this girl at the gym today who was wearing these blue leggings that were completely hugging her legs and butt, to the point where it didn't even look like she was wearing anything. It basically looked like she had painted her lower half with light blue paint. I have seen this kind of thing more frequently these days. Do you think a lot of women would just prefer to wear nothing? Given that most of them now wear clothes that are effectively like wearing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:09 AM
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But he paid to fuck a fat onlyfans chick. The woman who he had a heart attack on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:50 PM
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Exactly. That's why white knights are so stupid. They don't realize what they're doing is utterly futile and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:12 PM
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Online dating allows for socially unrestricted access to women. Men can go for the type of women they want and not face social repercussions for it. When you take this into consideration, black women are still the least desired. You can hamster away that it's some beauty standard just like I can hamster away that women don't like short men for some beauty standard. Maybe some physical features just aren't as desired as others? The problem is that you can't mention race as a factor for attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:01 PM
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I'd posit that they want to get laid and they think sticking up for a woman will help with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:52 PM
2

So what about the alcohol, energy drinks, hookers, are they true? I hate how people on this subreddit just selectively reply to parts of a post and ignore the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:51 PM
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They stick up for random female strangers. They don't stick up for random male strangers. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:44 PM
2

Ok. But you didn't answer my question. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:40 PM
2

There's lots of good guys out there. Maybe you are ignoring them? They're the shyer, less attractive guys. Have you given one of them a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:34 PM
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Men bend over backwards to fit the desires of women and please women, which is why white knights exist who defend women at every opportunity, but women never rush to the protection or defense of random men. But good to see that feminism is just a revenge mission to try to "get one over" on men. You just admitted that. Straight from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:30 PM
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He asked for women's weight whenever he gave them advice. That implies that he thinks being heavy = low value, otherwise there would be no need to ask that question. Yet he was fucking big women in private away from the camera. He's just another red pill hypocrite who preaches one thing and then does the exact opposite behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:20 PM
3

Which of those things are untrue and which are true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:18 PM
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You don't filter for it. You accept that modern dating culture is different from the 1950's. It's all about short term relationships, excitement, fun, settling down later or maybe never settling down. Women wanted this, which is why sexual liberation was pushed so hard for by feminists. Men are just responding to the changing dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:52 AM
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So you're not even denying what I said. Well good to know what feminism really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:45 AM
0

I've seen these kinks with dominatrixes and submissive men. They treat these submissive men like dirt. They're nothing more than a cash cow for these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:44 AM
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Wonder how much he paid to fuck her. Also didn't he say that big women were low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:43 AM
1

Obviously, people say this stuff all the time. Guys do it too: "I don't like slutty women" Translation: "I don't like women who are slutty with other men, but please be my slut" Please don't tell me you're older than 15, OP? Most people figured this stuff about in grade school.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/22 03:33 AM
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It seemed like he was just projecting his own situation onto women. He was 56 and alone. Apparently divorced twice, with a kid who he never saw, and resorted to fucking hookers. All while drinking copious quantities of alcohol, energy drinks and doing hard drugs. Doesn't sound like the life of a high value male to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:28 AM
0

Women don't respect sexually submissive males.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:25 AM
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They are the least desirable - look at the statistics of marriage, single women and online dating statistics. Black women perform the worst across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:23 AM
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So you build yourself up to be this high value man, only to just pay for escorts anyway? Why bother building yourself up to be a high value man in the first place then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:08 PM
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No one even knows how much money he had, that's speculation. He clearly wasn't in a good place in life if he was drinking heavily and taking drugs to the point of having a heart attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:29 PM
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So he did buy the women. Well no respect for him. Anyone can do that, it means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:10 PM
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It does matter. I want to know did he pay for it or was the woman genuinely attracted to him. Big difference. Any guy can buy a young girl to fuck, that's not an achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:52 PM
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Were these women hookers or sugar babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:33 PM
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Maybe. So he definitely took hard drugs? I wonder why. For such a self proclaimed high value man, I wouldn't have thought he would need to turn to drugs to feel happiness and fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:06 PM
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Was this woman an escort or sugar baby? It's quite a big difference if he can get women normally vs having to pay for women. That's not high value. That's just being a loser who has to pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:04 PM
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Fair enough. Thanks. Do you know if he ever saw his daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:00 PM
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Is there any evidence this was the case? Any pictures of him with lots of women? How do you know they weren't hookers? He also drank a lot of alcohol on his own by the looks of it. That's a sign of very bad depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:00 PM
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Can anyone tell me if Kevin Samuels had a wife, girlfriend or kids? It seems like he didn't. He was 56 years old and berating women for being alone, while being alone himself and coping with a mixture of alcohol, energy drinks and hard drugs. That doesn't sound very high value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:48 PM
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Can you answer my question please - did he have a wife, girlfriend or kids? Looks like he was an incredibly lonely man, drowning his sorrows in alcohol, energy drinks and hard drugs at 56 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:44 PM
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It seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong) that he was 56 years old, no wife, no girlfriend, no kids. He was a lonely man, berating women for being lonely, and drowning his sorrows in a mixture of alcohol, energy drinks and hard drugs. No wonder he sounded like he slurred his words all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:42 PM
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Why would a high value man need to fuck escorts? I thought the whole point of becoming high value was so you could get women without paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:39 PM
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Someone here said she was. Maybe she wasn't. But did he have a wife or girlfriend? Did he have any kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:25 PM
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Looks like he was very lonely by the sounds of it. Fucking hookers, no wife or girlfriend. Did he have any kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:23 PM
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He's a high value man and has to fuck escorts? Damn, all these red pill guys on youtube are selling lies. Rollo Tomassi is in a sexless marriage, Rich Cooper divorced a single mom and is bitter because he doesn't get laid anymore, Fresh and Fit need to advertise on sugar daddy websites, Kevin Samuels was fucking hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:18 PM
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Does anyone know what caused Kevin Samuel's death? Some people are saying he took hard drugs. Others are saying it was too much energy drinks. Others are saying too much alcohol. Others are saying it was simply too much stress in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:58 PM
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I disagree with all that, you're just picking out a bunch of extremes and strawmen. And please don't pretend feminism is a noble movement, because that's nothing more than a misandrist man-hating cult which attempts to get maximum benefit for women at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:51 PM
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I wonder if he died due to the stress of dealing with all these angry confrontational women. It wouldn't surprise me. High stress over a long period of time is not good for you. I've dealt with angry women like that before. They act like children and send your stress levels way up. I now don't bother and if a woman plays up like that, she's out the door immediately. Not got time for an adult who acts like a stroppy, entitled, demanding child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:19 PM
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He is cleaning up the mess of feminism, which is nothing more than a movement designed to give women maximum superiority over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:13 PM
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There's more than just putting the woman at ease, lmao. Women are the choosers because they have an abundance of choice in dating. Men have to impress because they are in a position of scarcity. Thus introversion is much worse for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:38 AM
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You're missing my point. Men are expected to do the legwork, put the woman at ease and impress her. Introversion for a woman is nowhere near as bad as introversion as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:13 AM
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You're a woman. Women will always do well on dating apps compared to an average man lol. Create a male profile for yourself and see what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:14 PM
1

I kind of like hairy women so it's not a problem. But others may think differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:10 PM
1

Can you message me privately about it? Now I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:47 PM
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This is a problem with subreddit. People cherry pick certain parts of your post to reply to and ignore the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:08 AM
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Online forums like reddit attract introverts with below average social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:01 AM
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If it requires such a large amount of effort to get a girl to like you and have sex with you, my sex drive has disappeared by that point. When a girl makes you jump through multiple hoops, it kills my desire for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:59 AM
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Do you think they are trying to ban abortion to help the birth rate? It definitely seems like a possibility. Population decline will be a huge problem in 30 years time and changes have to take effect now in order to reverse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:00 PM
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Why are there 30 year old guys who look much younger but 40 year old guys suddenly all look their age or older?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:28 PM
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Are they still grandpas if they only look like they're 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:34 PM
1

To be fair, people judge you by your age a lot. If you're 35 but look 24, you will be treated as a 24 year old. But once you say you're 35, you're immediately treated differently. It's so funny. I see it in people's faces all the time. They think you're a certain age, then you tell them your real age and suddenly they view you in a completely different way. They treat you totally differently. They expect you to have all the responsibilities of your older age, but you get treated with less respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:41 AM
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Didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:34 AM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:42 PM
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Yeah. They're too busy having sex with these women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:14 PM
2

Those men got lucky once with one high n count woman, but otherwise the high n count women don't want sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:26 PM
2

Wow geez, now even a 30 year old woman wants nothing to do with a 40 year old man! Sound like this concept of "the wall" hits men rather than women, if a 40 year old man can't even go for women a bit younger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:28 PM
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No I don't, I just know that sharing most things with them, at best they won't care, at worst they will take the piss out of me and make me a laughing stock. As a woman, you live in a reality where everyone is accepting of you regardless of your faults. That's never been true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:25 PM
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Damn, well I can't change my face! So much for red pill telling me to lift when muscles don't matter and face is everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:14 PM
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Because most men take the piss out of you when you do that. Also a lot of women comforting other women is just telling lies to each other "you're beautiful girl don't let anyone tell you otherwise, don't change you for anyone, you are awesome and amazing and deserve happiness". It's total lies and wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:11 PM
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What would you prefer them to do? Just accept their fate, learn their place in life and die unnoticed? Sounds like that's what you want them to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:08 PM
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Because if you haven't noticed, it gives them huge advantages to do so - not least women noticing them more. You won't understand because as a woman, people are just friendly to you regardless. Men will ask you out regardless. You don't need to stand out as a woman. You live a different reality to a man, just accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:06 PM
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That's because as a woman, sex is easy for you to get. Of course you don't understand the desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:01 PM
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Because those high n count women aren't giving them sex. Read between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:56 PM
1

Maybe you could help wash their butts for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:55 PM
1

Women feel exhausted and like going to sleep after a proper good orgasm. Maybe you have never had a proper orgasm with a partner before? Definitely sounds like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:52 PM
1

Not really. Girls don't spend lots of time with guys they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:33 PM
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Women have no incentive to understand men. Even women on this sub say that "dick is cheap" "dick is free" "sperm is plentiful". That tells you all you need to know. Why would they need to understand men when men are handed to them on a plate their whole life and it is men who must go to the effort to impress them? Women live life with the view that men must do the legwork to earn the "right" to be with them, not the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:47 AM
1

I see. Not for me. What do you mean by worship you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:25 AM
1

Yes height is a crucial factor in attractiveness for men which can't be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:25 AM
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As long as a woman is not fat, she has a good body to men. Fat is easy to lose. Just stop eating so much. Very very simple. Men must build muscle. Muscle is very difficult and time consuming to build. You must be in a calorie surplus, eating the right kinds of food, hitting the gym hard with the correct training and get plenty of rest. Even after all that, you may just have bad genetics for building muscle. Not everyone can have decent muscle insertions, some people build a more block-like physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:10 AM
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