Giving women the right to vote was the beginning of the downfall of Western civilization

svas2137 · 2021-04-17T09:56:52+00:00

There was an experiment done few years back in US. 2 set of candidates were presented to group of ₩hym€n . One candidate was harsh and realistic and only talked about economic growth , long term vision, foreign policies, environment security border defense. Other candidate promised feeebies, free incentives, parties fun recreation budget and lots of gifts. Guess who was voted by ₩hym€n as the winner?? The one who promised all the free goodies. Reason? According to feedback he was having a more pleasent personality.

This shows ₩hym€n are nothing but eternal children all their lives who never grow mentally and have a mindset of a 12 yo. They lack long term vision, overall big picture planning.Hence in ancient times all the major decisions related to the fate of a clan and tribe were taken by chieftans who were males. History has witnessed downfall of all those civilizations who have given power to creatures who have mindset of a child. U give a chimp AK57 or a matchstick and it is bound to cause mayhm and fire all over.

Hence religions like Ì$ĺ@m are demonized by the west . It is labelled as oppressive . Those guys along with all ancient civilizations, cultures, ancient texts ( even bible) figured it out long time back..

jeepdrvr18 · 2021-04-17T10:03:13+00:00

When women got the vote. The focus shifted from candidates with sound policies and ideas. To a candidates looks and personality and how they make women feel.

Michael-Fuble · 2021-04-17T12:58:20+00:00

There was really long post I saw a while ago explaining this in great detail. I can't copy-paste it as I'm on mobile and doubt have it with me, but the gist of it was that before women could vote and it was men only, the male vote would more often than not be counted more as a family's vote as opposed to an individual's vote.

Because people in general got married and had kids at much younger ages than now, the man would be voting for politicians and issues that wouldn't just impact him but his household as well. Because of this politicians would have to govern for the wants and needs of the family unit (which was then considered the smallest societal unit, a belief generally still held by conservative leaning people today, stable healthy families = stable healthy countries).

When women were given the right to vote, that all went out the window. The issues and wants of the family unit were no longer as important. The individual became the smallest societal unit (the belief held by many left leaning people nowadays) and was comprised 50-50 of men and women. Governments (now increasingly becoming puppets for corporations) could now pit men and women against each other while political and business corruption and greed grew.

Throw a couple of wars in there (WW1 and 2, Korea, Vietnam etc.) and the male proportion of the population is outweighed by the female population and governments can use this to pass legislature that makes women feel good bit ultimately causes serious issues down the line (like we're seeing now with things like immigration, offshoring of jobs and industry, welfare states etc.).

If you're bit of a conspiracy nut this flows into some other theories that conveniently are only negatively impacting western nations. Look up who many of the most prominent feminist leaders and champions were and what they all had in common (aside from a vagina). Hint, they're also incredibly overrepresented in American government, banking and Hollywood.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-04-17T11:24:15+00:00

Linden Johnson’s “Great Society”

Women gained voting rights

Invention of sanitary napkin (tampon)

Legalization of abortion

Calculated lies spread through Cosmo magazine

We’ve already put the nail in the coffin. Society has gone past the point of no return. This is going to spiral into some very dark years. It will take extreme poverty, starvation, death, etc... for people to realize all of problems that have been building.

CH0K3M3D4DDY · 2021-04-17T11:33:05+00:00

I can tell you one thing some women also agree that they should have never given any rights . Heard from my professor

Teflon08191 · 2021-04-17T14:17:33+00:00

It's disappointing because this isn't even new information for men. Texts that span thousands of years into our history across all different cultures are full of the exact same warnings. They knew that unmitigated human nature is a ticking time bomb for civilization so they took measures with both genders to mitigate it.

Feminists will disregard all of the ways men's natures are mitigated for the sake of civilization and then insist the measures meant to mitigate women's natures only exist because men are all sociopaths that get off on "oppressing" women.

All while crucifying men for looking at them the wrong way, sitting the wrong way, speaking the wrong way, thinking the wrong way, or being out past 6 P.M. apparently...

They can't see past their own noses.

This is why men build civilizations, and women don't.

2021-04-17T09:06:24+00:00

Hard to argue with that

2021-04-17T15:03:13+00:00

Actually, the first thing women voted on as soon as they got the right to vote was ban alcohol. Look it up. It's literally the same year they got the right to vote that alcohol was banned.

Salladus · 2021-04-17T12:05:51+00:00

The kind of society we have today would have never survived in the past. It's only possible to some extent today because of technology, and I suspect there are limits to how much authority women can have before the dam bursts and society collapses.

yourcarlosdanger · 2021-04-17T17:18:07+00:00

Women got the vote in the 1920s. Firs thing they voted for was Franklin Roosevelt's welfare state including the big daddy of welfare programs, Social Security. Pause for WWII and they are back at it voting for a vast increase in the welfare state under Lyndon Johnson. And they added the real poison pill, open borders. Open Borders + Welfare State = Collapse. Economic collapse because we cant put the entire planet on welfare so they will vote for Joe Biden. Societal collapse because the immigrants arrive and are immediately flooded with anti YT propaganda telling them to blame all of their problems on us. The result is Riots and the low trust society that we now live in. None of this would have happened if women couldn't vote.

No_Singer6727 · 2021-04-17T09:24:20+00:00

No argument here mate

matrix3912 · 2021-04-17T12:08:07+00:00

Women usually play the political games so much better than men, and I think that's why they are more successful in pushing their agenda.

I don't think women's right to vote is the downfall of western civilization, there are many cultures across the world were women where considered to be higher statue to men (Old Egyptians for example), and there empires worked fine.

Tbh, the downfall of America is going to be the result of ignorance, I honestly think that people should be forced (in schools) to learn about the founding fathers and about US history. Americans are so ignorant about their history that even I, a non US Citizen, and never lived in US, know better than most Americans I meet online. This shit is embarrassing.

lonesentinel19 · 2021-04-17T18:15:28+00:00

Well, what you have is a situation of:

the majority of women are tax-negative individuals, receiving more benefits than they pay in;
tax-negative individuals comprise a majority of the voting population in the US as a whole;
utilizing this majority, tax-negative individuals can vote for policies that force tax-positive individuals to pay in more, so that the tax-negative individuals reap additional benefit. Essentially, voting themselves money in a roundabout way.

I'm not dissing any guys who are tax-negative. There's nothing wrong with minimizing the amount of tax you pay -- heck, I encourage it. With this ridiculous system of federal spending in the US, I'd encourage every guy to pay $0 in taxes, if possible. What I am saying is that I don't entirely agree that women vote in a certain way because of emotion, but because they voting themselves benefits.

9trogenta · 2021-04-17T14:18:27+00:00

Say thank you to Woodrow Wilson for that, and for the Federal Reserve System, and for the Treaty of Versailles.

2021-04-17T14:31:55+00:00

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BalancingVices · 2021-04-17T16:44:01+00:00

If women didn't have the right to vote today, then the men of today would vote for women's right to vote, immediately.

The trouble starts much earlier. Young voters are also a problem.

Depending on where you live, 18 years old can mean not old enough to even decide on having an alcoholic drink, but still being old enough to allowed to sign up for fighting in military missions abroad and, of course, old enough to vote. That situation is pretty similar throughout the West, give or take a few years. The lawmakers are counting on young people being foolish in all these scenarios.

People are stupid, but men generally become a little bit smarter as they approach the age of 40. Experience is also a huge factor; if you've seen a lot of stuff happen before, you may start to recognize the patterns, even when you still can't figure a scam out by pure reasoning. Middle age and life experience will help people to make better decisions.

I believe a more stable democracy or republic would require the voting to be restricted to ages somewhere between 30 and 70 years old.

usedtimecapsule · 2021-04-17T14:27:15+00:00

I disagree. Voting is useless and if you think it matters it’s time to wake up.

The downfall is modern feminism that hates men.

JustI789 · 2021-04-17T16:08:30+00:00

I would disagree that past was better. At one side you are right that there was better masculine/feminine balance but on the other side I think woman back then were still nagging and weighting man down, they just couldn't express themselves that much. Today we have gift of seeing them as they are and WE HAVE option to not go into marriage or relationship. We can be free. That is thousand times better and many of us can just walk away and live our lives carefree without give a f about them.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2021-04-17T20:42:34+00:00

Once you have universal suffrage, you have a democracy, not a republic (despite us calling ourselves republic, you're kidding yourself). Once you have democracy, you will inevitably collapse, the question is merely "when".

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse doe to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.” - Alexander Tyler

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill

To understand why women do this, you have to understand female nature. At her very core, a woman just simply wants to be taken care of, because it's in her biology. Women are hardwired to find pools of resource she can extract from, because not only is she weaker and dumber than men, but when she is pregnant (and then later breastfeeding) she is incredibly vulnerable AND needs extra calories to take care of the baby, so the resources have to be at her fingertips. Ultimately, she doesn't care if a man has to take care of her, or if daddy government pays her free money (paid by men, so she's still taken care of by men, just indirectly), as long as the resources are there. And there is no easier way to collect resources than to simply fill out a voting ballot, especially compared to the traditional way where you actually had to marry a man.

Second, see Kohlberg's 6 stages of morality. Men can reach all 6 stages of morality, women stop at stage 3. His feminist colleague Gilligan had to steal his model, take the first 3 stages, rename them, and say that this model is what women follow, purely in order to make women look not as bad as Kohlberg did. But it doesn't change the fact that women are less moral than men. Why is this important? Because it is just one more proof that women have the mentality of children, since obviously children start at the bottom of the morality hierarchy and have to work their way up. And what is one thing children have problems with? Long term planning. Women only see the short term and what's available to them. They have very little capacity for not only long term planning, but also seeing what happened in the past and then appropriating that information for the present. That is why for example when you warn women that X has consequences, they don't give a fuck, because all they see is the present.

Third, women's hypergamy causes them to always vote themselves more free shit, because whatever they have at present is never enough, they are ALWAYS wanting an upgrade, ALWAYS wanting more. That is why it started with just the ability to vote... then free welfare... then free jobs... then free college... then free housing... then free tampons...

Fourth, women are the majority of people in a society. There are always going to be more women than men in a society (outside of some random diseases that only kills one gender) because men simply don't live as long as women. Testosterone kills men faster than estrogen kills women, plus men are viewed as more expendable, whether they die in war, at their jobs, etc. In addition, women have a MUCH larger in-group bias than men do. Plenty of men will side with women mostly because these men are simps who want pussy and they think bending the knee will get them pussy (it doesn't, but that's what they think), while women will almost always circle the wagons around their own. This portion again largely stems from the morality argument; men are more moral than women, and men are significantly more likely to actually sympathize and empathize with women because they are more moral, rather than the opposite.

The results are obvious. When women can vote, their hypergamy makes them vote for more free shit. They vote for free shit because they are biologically hard wired to collect resources. Their lack of morality makes it impossible for them to see the consequences of their actions, whether it's the burden they inflict on the tax payers (men) to pay for their free shit or what will happen 20 years in the future when men opt out of the system. Women make up the majority, and significantly more men will vote for women than vice versa, so in a democracy the society will always be determined by the women voters.

From here, the burden on the tax payers (men) will continuously grow as women demand more free shit paid for by taxpayers, until men opt out of the system. Once men leave, there are no more jobs, and no more taxes to leech off of, and the system implodes. You're seeing it with the inner cities where companies (run by almost entirely men) are leaving, and there are no jobs and no taxpayers, and cities are just massive welfare pits. There is a very obvious reason why the strongest democrat strongholds (cities or states) are collapsing. And the entire west is going to follow because it is a cancer. The morons leaving California to go to Texas are STILL going to vote blue no matter who, and they are too fucking stupid to realize that voting blue is the reason WHY California became a shithole.

So how do you fix the system?

You can't. There's no way to reform the system. The first step would be to repeal the 19th, but women would never give up their right to vote willingly. You'd have to take them away by force, but that would get you killed in current year because men have become so cucked they will side with women and you will die from the cucks white knighting for women. The only way you can actually take women's rights away is if the cucks wake up, but they have to wake up on their own, and then you'd need enough men to actually stand up. We simply do not have enough time to do that however. We do not have enough time to wake up enough cucks so we can fix the system, before the system collapses.

The ONLY solution is to walk away and watch the system collapse from 3000 miles away, and then come back and rebuild from the ashes.

prelude12342000 · 2021-04-18T01:22:46+00:00

FActs...

TransHero · 2021-04-17T14:06:03+00:00

Women can be convinced to believe anything.

lebonisang · 2021-04-17T14:54:27+00:00

Lmao wtf

techstural · 2021-04-17T16:17:27+00:00

You well might be right that the right to vote was pivotal in this current mess. I believe women probably always dominated the household, using their sexuality and other feminine tyrannies, but, then, men dominated the public and financial sectors, so, thus, there was some balance of powers. There is a significant (perhaps double digit) percent of women who I believe deserve the vote. However, the rest give me the galloping, screaming horrors. If anything, they more deserve some form of incarceration or immobilization. In some ways the men deserve it for lacking sufficient guts, though the women certainly are ruthless and wily. They used rational arguments, which worked against men, while never actually being rational themselves. Thus, they could later abandon the "sheep's clothing" when no longer needed.

JuStShAvEyOuRhEaDbRo · 2021-04-17T19:13:33+00:00

...And this is why Islam is right about women boyos! Androcentrism >

Unshack · 2021-04-17T20:07:41+00:00

Giving stupid people, and therefore also women the right to vote is dumb

2021-04-17T20:37:58+00:00

Women are women. Simps did this to us.

Mean-Function-4852 · 2021-04-17T21:11:28+00:00

I read this somewhere. The slippery slope is a tactic, not a logical fallacy.

julianredson443 · 2021-04-17T21:14:22+00:00

What no pussy does to a mf

alienmuseum · 2021-04-18T03:40:03+00:00

They don't want to be mere workers. They want "equal representation in leadership positions also. They want to be CEO, chairman and board members at different companies. Since they couldn't do it through skills and talents, they vote to "pass" the laws to force men to accept them.

realChebz · 2021-04-18T09:24:30+00:00

The thing is people put too much weight into woman's right of vote. Female right of vote was only a consequence of a modernizing society. If it wouldn't have happened in 1920, it would've happened in 21 or 22, etc.. but even before that women already had growing power over their husbands and leisure time to go around protest with "men are pigs" signs.

anon517 · 2021-04-21T00:37:23+00:00

Most women at the time did not want the right to vote. The political supporters wondered why this was the case.

When they examined it further, it was overwhelming because women didn't want to be draft eligible. They were content with not being able to vote as long as they wouldn't be forced to fight in wars.

So the political activists then manipulated legislatures to remove SPECIFICALLY the requirement of selective service FOR WOMEN.

After this responsibility was removed from the text, they finally gathered enough support from women who then could pressure their husbands, sons, etc to push for the law.

This is the kind of nonsense that started the mess.

But to be honest, this is pretty inevitable in a "equal opportunity" society because we're not equal by nature. Women have always held all the cards to sex. So if you make them "equal" by law, the power dynamic is such that now 99% of women have all the power both legally and socially.

There are zero "equalizing" factors when it comes to sex.

Yet, it's quite conveniently ignored by society.

Title	Giving women the right to vote was the beginning of the downfall of Western civilization
Author	Jhe2277
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Date	April 17, 2021 8:51 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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