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USA Birth Rates Fall To A 1.7 births per women in December 2020: This number had fallen by 7.1% in December since the pandemic: The decline of children in America is becoming a threat to the population. In other words --> MGTOW is WINNING!

Chewy1324

April 3, 2021
115 upvotes
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Title USA Birth Rates Fall To A 1.7 births per women in December 2020: This number had fallen by 7.1% in December since the pandemic: The decline of children in America is becoming a threat to the population. In other words --> MGTOW is WINNING!
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Date April 3, 2021 12:46 AM UTC
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Comments

[–]mikeysixpointsix 79 points80 points81 points 5 years ago* (23 children) | Copy Link

Don’t cheer too loudly. It just means there won’t be any young men to fix the crumbling infrastructure and no social security benefits when you retire. Two sides to every coin.

[+][deleted] 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

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[–]mikeysixpointsix 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I work in the trades and brother it is getting hard to find skilled tradesmen. Young men don’t want to get their hands dirty anymore. As the older guys age out there’s a dwindling number of guys willing to join. But the up side is you make way more now because they can’t replace you easily.

[–]PimpinAce175 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i was in trades, i fucking left it, i actually enjoyed but wasn't making any money so i split, was going to start my own business but then found a higher paying field

[–]AeternusDoleo 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not a bad idea, but if you have experience in a trade, you'll still have something to fall back on. There'll always be a need for plumbers, electricians, and home construction.

[–]PimpinAce175 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea I still use it as a side hustle and no women want to do it, so women free work place, just got to watch out for the simps and white knights

[–]Nuclearrussian74 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those aren't easy jobs, and there is the perception that immigration is driving down salary.

[–]mikeysixpointsix 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re right they’re not easy. But for a guy like me who dropped out of hs, and loved working with tools it was a good choice. Hell, some places even pay to train you now. And honestly there are as many Latin/South American guys as white guys in the trades. Some of them are damn fine carpenters and easy to work with, if you know a little Esperanto (jk). I’ve met white dudes with huge chips on their shoulders. I take it on a case by case situation.

[–]DownvoteMe2021 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

While I agree with everything you're saying, do you suppose there is a counter argument that this is actually a good thing, because if women aren't volunteering for all these "dirty" trades, than it just means that we'll get to a place faster where they'll be forced to get the "equality" or admit they don't really want equality? Last I checked, not too many lady oil riggers either.

[–]mikeysixpointsix 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Oddly enough I heard a statistic recently. Something about how male employment has been the highest it’s been since the last big economic crash. While women aren’t returning to work. I think women have decided raising their kids is more important suddenly. Or that maybe working a 9-5 isn’t all that it’s promised to be. Tháńkś cóvíd.

[–]DownvoteMe2021 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are known to occupy a lot more "non essential" jobs. The vast majority of people in my office are men, though some women, and we're all essential (technical field). The restaurants full of waitresses just started opening back up like a month ago.

Probably need stats from a place like florida, which had didn't officially close at all that I recall.

[–]mikeysixpointsix 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, who knows what’ll happen. I keep hearing feminist whinging about how they’ve been set back fifty years or some shit. But all they do is whinge on and on. My biggest advice to young men is treat your body well, ignore women for the most part and invest in something (stocks, crypto, property, etc) while you’re young.

[–]Animator-Silly 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Im a fresh powergrid technician and im getting turned away at the door.. Granted I don't live in the states.

I'd pick up the slack and go to work, but yeah.. Kinda hard when not getting hired.

[–]mikeysixpointsix 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, sorry bruh. I live in California USA. Everybody here wants to be a programmer or work at a desk. Even during this pandemic there are tons of jobs for tradesmen here.

[–]nyauknow 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's it like making entry into the trades as a newcomer?

[–]mikeysixpointsix 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just started as a labor/gofer bottom of the ladder but I had a “willing to learn” kind of attitude. I’m also a average size guy, able to fit in crawl spaces easily. Some guys in the trades are big mf’s. I never wussed out when other guys would complain or out right refuse a shitty job. I think I started around 16 hr, but that was twenty five years ago.

[–]guaranteed_virgin 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what sort of work are you talking about? like plumbing?

[–]mikeysixpointsix 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do bath and kitchen remodeling. So a little electrical, a little plumbing, a little framing, etc.

[–]IamGeorgeNoory 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I looked into welding and hvac. The starting pay for the unions in my area was great but it was insanely hard to get in. They wanted people with degrees... I looked around in my area and no company was paying more than 13-14 for both welding and hvac. That pay is horrible considering my local mcdonalds starts out at 13 an hour. And not to mention the trades take a toll on the body.

[–]basedmillennial95 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ha as if this country has more than five years left in the gas tank

[–]StatusWorth244 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the gas in the tank will just feed the flames

[–]RemoteGuava 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well you COULD import skilled labor from other countries, but we know that will never happen. If you have any skills whatsoever and can speak the native language, you go to the absolute bottom of the immigration list.

[–]Walespro 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let it crumble this society priorities are totally misplaced. We need extinction.

[–]show-me-the-numbers 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Social Security, lol. Good one.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago* (53 children) | Copy Link

I hate this title. You're a dumbass if you think it's "MGTOW" that is winning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peF-ae2AINU

I'm hispanic 1st generation. What is happening is to the advantage of people like "me". The old guard is being out bred. Immigrants will make up 90% of the population growth in the US over the next 50 years. This Country will be unrecognizable within just a couple generations.

It's not a conspiracy theory and it certainly isn't MGTOW.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

edit: This is a bad thing. From what I can see, they want you guys to go MGTOW. Society and the current trends that are occurring are all part of a bigger scheme, in my opinion at least.

[–]ShortTailBoa 32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Except Feminism will fuck them over the same exact way. Mexico has a massive feminist problem, they litterally run roughshod in the fucking streets.

People would rather have the entire human race doomed to non-existence then admit that feminism is a disaster for the species.

[–]Turkyindia 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What's a roughshod?

[–]AeternusDoleo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Run roughshod" is an english expression. Means they're on a rampage basically.

[–]Turkyindia 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, thank you.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ummm... no.

Feminism is only being applied to certain groups. Feminism is just a tool to control certain opposition so other groups can rise to take their place.

Look around. We all know feminism is constantly being exposed for the double standards & active ignorance of real injustice. It's not on accident that things are this way.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

[–]bfte2 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

... Christ you're thick. Feminism being laughed at on a YouTube video means nothing. They're laughing at you, from the comforts of their offices, writing legislation that certainly put a cucumber up your schwing schwang.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No one's laughing at me lmao. I'm not the one constantly talking about feminism and women. There is much more at play than "legislators" and co.

But I'm the thick one? Lmao

[–]roflcopt0rz_returns 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The problem is, there is no solution for men OTHER than to go MGTOW.

How are you gonna fight back? The left controls all the levers of power. They literally just stole an election in broad daylight and nothing fucking happened, and they've even made articles bragging about it.

What's the point in making babies? it's to continue society. but the current society fucking abhors you for having a penis. So who fucking cares what happens to this society?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah true. I hate the idea of just letting this society win. Fuck them! We don't go down without some sort of attempt at fixing this shit.

But fr, there is no way to win. It's an uphill battle and honestly, we cannot save people who are too stupid to save themselves.

Mars?

[–]roflcopt0rz_returns 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's no need to go to Mars. All communist societies collapse, usually within a few decades. All you have to do is come back after the collapse and rebuild the society on top of the corpses.

[–]ston3y_b 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, just like old New York in Futurama.

[–]Alter_Amiba 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

You're not immune to propaganda and neither are hispanics or immigrants. Nor is it a positive thing that swaths of people are coming in from worse off countries and faster than they can assimilate. All that will happen is gradually turning the nation into whatever places they came from. Considering many of these countries have very ppor economies, drug cartels, and corruption. I wouldn't be boosting about that. What's even worse is that if you have enough different cultures together you're also going to have a lot of violence due to the triabalism all people (except whites apparently) have.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

I said "me" because that's what they want. They want immigrants to come here and create 1st gens that will eventually out populate the current demographics of Americans. Since hispanics/africans/other cultures won't assimilate right away, especially with how much tension there is politically, they aren't affected by feminism the same way other americans are.

I think it is a very bad thing. I think that it is not a coincidence that immigration is on the rise while birth rates decline to extinction level numbers. Mainly because I am not brain dead.

It's a big black pill that's for sure. It's all just social engineering.

[–]Vaxel00 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

You're right actually, but you're confusing this as the end and not the means. Actually, not even that, it's a bandaid for an unsustainable system that's is crumbling BECAUSE of low birthrates. The system needs someone to pay for the ponzi scheme that is the welfare system that no one can overturn because women vote.

TFM talks about this extensively, women want their careers so they CHOOSE not to have children, women vote so welfare keeps expanding and government spending keeps increasing, the next best thing is open the country to immigrants that will become tax payers, until their women enter the workforce and vote.

I agree with you, MGTOW has very little effect on this, but we're also the least affected.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That's what I see as well. Eventually the middle class will be erased and there will be no one left to syphon money from. That's where globalism comes into play.

I don't think it's the end. I have no idea what the overarching plan is. Honestly with cancel culture, feminism, PC culture and the destruction of the nuclear family. It feels like we are heading towards a 1984/ brave new world hell scape.

It's sad. I respect MGTOW for this. I hate how it is seemingly about "women women women!", though.

The current state of western women is really just a symptom of a much much MUCH larger problem. It's honestly too late and the point of no return was probably decades ago.

Oh well

[–]Vaxel00 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It's about communism, if you see the current narrative the current boogeyman is "whiteness", which is whatever they need it to be. They constantly use it to depict meritocracy, competitiveness and capitalism. (See also, toxic masculinity)

Women have always been women, they're socialists by nature and the best way to destroy and demoralize a civilization is too empower their women and pit them against their men.

If you see the early years of the Soviet union and the great leap forward, you'll find eerie similarities.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

100%. It's female nature to follow trends. It is also the same for weak men.

I think this is a much less violent take over, it's a war of attrition. IDK what is coming and how long it'll take, but the writing is obviously on the wall.

[–]Vaxel00 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My conspiracy theory is that the more immediate problem is the aging population that can't be sustained by government pensions anymore. They'll keep rising retirement age.

My other conspiracy theory is that covid was supposed to be the decimator for the aging population, one that didn't have the intended results given the high mortality rates they predicted and the laughable first response to the initial outbreak. I don't know if the outbreak was intentional, but like the president of Mexico said, "this pandemic came to us like a ring to a finger".

The next real step, like all other dictators, will be to disarm the population for a smoother take over. Make it illegal for you to defend yourself, use some tragedy to guilt the people into compliance and then the government will have a monopoly on violence.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a war on 3-4 fronts.

I'd say they are winning on all of them...

My question is though, where does MGTOW fit into all this? No way men will be allowed to ditch society and accumulate wealth. No way.

[–]Vaxel00 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like you said, they're winning in all of them.

MGTOW is the path of least resistance, it's about self preservation and self actualization. They keep using women and family as hostages, we learned we could do without them.

Unless they become militant and come straight for us, we're untouchable.

[–]AeternusDoleo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are winning on all fronts.

But we're not on the battlefield anymore.

They will be lords of the ashes.

And we will smile in our graves.

[–]-warsie- 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you see the early years of the Soviet union and the great leap forward, you'll find eerie similarities.

Like what lol? Recovering from a civil war and having a bit of an incompetent government?

[–]Vaxel00 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, a progressive campaign that focused on women's rights and universal suffrage.

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[–]AeternusDoleo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, yea, yea. Will see it when it happens dude. Humanity survived a fricking ice age with pointy sticks. We'll survive anything that this world throws at us - and more. Diminished, maybe. Collapsed society, maybe. But extinction? Nah... not going to happen.

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[–]Vaxel00 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, giving them access to higher education and introducing them to the workforce leads to lower birthrates. They are the majority of the population since men die more and younger, so they have they higher hand in the monster that is democracy.

The problem is, either you have a big welfare state OR you allow women to enter the workforce and higher education, you can't have both.

[–]takeitonyards 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Luckily their advantage in life expectancy is declining .

[–]AeternusDoleo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, and the suicide gap between the genders is also slowly equalizing. Unironically, for a change... women most affected.

With equal rights come equal pressures on the person. Privileges come with burdens. And some of them are non-optional.

[–]-warsie- 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are being played...in order to reduce the birth rate. You've got the cause and effect backwards.

It's not a play given people only advocate for this thing for those reasons.

[–]-warsie- 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny, as hispanics and asians generally assimilate into whiteness. Africans will generally assimilate into the black population...

[–]-warsie- 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering many of these countries have very ppor economies, drug cartels, and corruption.

wow, so the immigrants do have American values!

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's the issue. Honestly I have been searching for a group of people who understand it, it feels like they don't exist.

To me it is so obvious. I'm not an InfoWars tinfoil hat wearer. I was a fucking liberal 3-4 years ago! I used to think Jon Stewart was the bees knees and Obama was cool.

But now? It is all so obvious. It is incredibly sad to me. Sex is meaningless now. Marriage is meaningless now. The family unit is meaningless. Everything that was the foundation of a happy life is now meaningless. There is no happy ending, it is TOO risky to pursue it.

I didn't want to bring up the black community. It's a bit much for reddit lol

[–]usedtimecapsule 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Marriage is meaningless because of divorce. Sex is meaningless without a connection.

Only option for men is MGTOW at this point

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mgtow or bust lol

[–]-warsie- 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

. Marriage is meaningless now. The family unit is meaningless. Everything that was the foundation of a happy life is now meaningless.

Marx said something to that effect in *The Communist Manifesto* written in 1848. So it's not a new theory....

[–]basedmillennial95 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This 'country' has neen dead for over 50 years. Only by death can it be reborn.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck that lol

I was born into this shit, I don't want to sink with this ship! I didn't choose to be born!

Plus who knows what it'll look like when the time comes. The sacking of Rome? The Russians/Chinese invading? Canada and Mexico gang bang us?

Sad times bro

[–]basedmillennial95 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't choose to be born!

Neither did I. Life isn't fair.

Plus who knows what it'll look like when the time comes.

I dont know how it'll look like but I know it'll be a relief. Either way rejoice. There will be glorious time for us to carve out our own kingdoms.

[–]PimpinAce175 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

good fuck it when this country resembles a South America, people can have their dystopia

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck!!!!!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

no they don't. globalism and feminism go hand in hand for one.

what is happening right now is resurgently powerful nationalism and traditionalism that go hand in hand with the lower birthrates we are seeing.

there is in addition to massive backlash against feminism, also massive backlash against unfettered open borders and free trade.

this means the more we squeeze them with a lower birthrate the more doomed globalists are. it already seems like unfettered open borders aren't in the cards in the future...but also because they can't produce a new generation of feminists globalists to indoctrinate the youth, whether those youth are native to the country or immigrants.

if globalist indoctrination fails, ie feminism fails, then long term globalism is doomed period

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

BASED reply. But nah.

Feminists are destroying themselves, it is literally in their coding. Don't have kids, pursue a career. That ideology dies off after 1 generation lol.

Traditionalism where??? What??? Dude I WISH. The backlash may be there, but there is no rising counter culture that masses of people can get behind.

Lower birthrates will be used as an excuse to increase immigration quotas.

Also Globalism isn't the end game, IMO it's all about creating a centralized government. Some sort of "unity", EU style.

But Im just talking out my ass lol.I agree w what you're saying.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

feminists still want kids though. it's that men don't want to marry feminists, that's the reason the number of men who want to marry keeps decreasing but the number of women doesn't.

nationalism and anti open borders agendas are huge in europe and the us as is, same with the uk.

by continuing to squeeze them on the birthrate, long term they will have to acquiesce on making marriage less of a raw deal for men.

nationalism is the answer and is coming to power globally as well speak...corona is just a short delay but...but it is definitely coming. even globalists agree that globalism is dying.

also i agree that probably what they want is some entity like the EU but in reality globalism is just dying...there is nothing they can do

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

IDK bro I appreciate the white pills but I'm not buying it. I'll have to see it w/ my own eyes and from what I can see, men are down BIG.

Hopefully VR technology expands and I can have my traditional family in the matrix.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

oh i agree that men are screwed in the status quo, but long term the globalist system is imploding and there is nothing they can do about it.

i too want a vr wife...it's the best we can get at this point

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean. If the globalist plan is failing. Why are they still pushing it? Why do they continue to push nasty culture and keep pushing? I think there is something left.

I have some hope. I think in all of us there is still some blue pilled young boy that believes he can have a happy family once he meets his unicorn.

I mean... it can't end like this... right? Time will tell, sure, but I can't help but pop black pills thinking about all this crap. I don't watch the news or listen to political opinions anymore because of how I know about all this stuff. It makes everything going on today seem so trivial.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what we are witnessing and have been for the past decade or so is the hysterical implosion of globalism more or less.

i think we still have maybe a decade of it left....they are trying desperately to hold on but massively failing.

[–]-warsie- 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean none of this is new. Pretty sure the US of 1940 was totally unrecognizable to someone in 1890 or so...

[–]LibertarianLibertine 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're absolutely right. The same game is playing out in Europe.

I have kids tho - marriage may be hell, but kids are great.

[–]jhooperp 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let our species die down what can I say. No one cares about me because of my gender so why should I care about this

[–]Psylocked849 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The World is not worth saving.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it has to do with the current feminist movement and guys waking up to the unfair game of marriage. All this talk in the thread about artificial population displacement or whatever weird spiel is all garbage, lol. If you think the elites really care about what color your skin is and what your background is, you’re delusional. They all see men is like a robots, you twist their gears and indoctrinate them with feminists ideals at a young age and they’ll be blue pilled for the rest of their lives. Moving on.

[–]ForestHobo885 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mgtow isnt winning, unfortunately. Whats happening is the average woman would rather be alone and childless, while getting railed out by a top tier chad for the 1 day a week she has him, rather than be exclusive with beta bob and a family.

[–]mariof135 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Y’all think there will be a baby boom post pandemic?

[–]basedmillennial95 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, this was from December 2020.

[–]Annual-Wonder 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That what usually happens after pandemics, like the Black Death. It is only stopped by outside problems like the Columbian Exchange screwing up Native Americans.

[–]show-me-the-numbers 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, after real pandemics, not fabricated ones with a 99.8% survival rate. There was no post-polio baby boom.

[–]Annual-Wonder 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well the survival rates is more to due to better health, better weather(we are not in a little Ice Age), and better science.

[–]KamZombie07 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Er... Polio was a epidemic not a pandemic

[–]show-me-the-numbers 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's referred to as either one depending on what you read. On Wikipedia it is called both.

[–]ninjamikec 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We need less people, who gives a shit

[–]KamZombie07 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

? Why do you think the alt right freaks how about lower birth rates, we should have more people and overpopulation is a lie.

[–]ninjamikec 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they are losing religious zealots who don't follow their idiotic ideology

[–]9trogenta 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop it. Feminism is winning. GYOW is only any sane man's reaction to clown world. We are winning nothing.

[–]DatRndmDude 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No worries, you'll be replaced and outbred by migrant workers.

[–]TempPsychWarden 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

DIE HUMANITY DIE

[–]HangZulu 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm waiting to see how ectogenesis plays out.

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If men can pick up their balls and see the value in raising children without a mother, THEN we might see social change.

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[–]show-me-the-numbers 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fit males are in the best place to survive society crashing.

[–]trump4president2024 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They can let the entire third world through the Southern border (like they are)...... still won't make any difference at this point.

Smart money is on not breeding and enjoying your short life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, the globalist Jews are winning. I would prefer a society in which I could have kids and it wouldn’t ruin my life.

[–]AeternusDoleo 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to make a small prediction where this decline is the most extreme: College educated liberals. The ones who are most negative on the state of society and seek it's upheaval.

Just make sure you've got your nest eggs stashed away gents. Demographic collapse will mean an end to any and all social security. It will be too expensive to maintain. Save - and not in currency, hyperinflation is likely to be on the horizon as well. Save in assets. Preferably in independent, off-grid living if you can manage it.

[–]MetaGenieGenius 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anarchy gives way to communism.

[–]WangKur 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Less births is anything but a good thing. What happens when any species doesn't procreate more than they die? The species goes extinct.

[–]Lookinginbetween 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe sex and dating plays a role since most women claim to only date men with a college degree apposed to a tradesman. They want the status of being with that guy,so men are doing it to get laid even if he gets paid 6 figures to do it.

[–]KamZombie07 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is actually like bad, this means that the births will be too low to replace the population. Like Russia or Japan...

[–]GoodFaithSockPuppet 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

May I offer an alternative hypothesis? : https://youtu.be/PBycbqNN388 - How Lefty Spinster Cope is Turning into a Death Cult (and why that's a good thing)

[–]CodeDiscombobulated1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we men always win

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