A rebuttal of this feminist comic: How a social constructivist view of gender hurts men.

Hey_itsmeguys · 2021-06-18T21:33:44+00:00

I've never heard a feminist talk that humanely and positively about men

mayrunal · 2021-06-19T00:17:13+00:00

some chick’s been arguing with me for the past day about how I should be a feminist but she has been incredibly unconvincing, aggressive & condescending. never in my life have I met a feminist who wasn’t a complete twat

Hey_itsmeguys · 2021-06-18T13:37:06+00:00

Seems perfectly reasonable, right? Feminists might use this line of reasoning to justify how they, "Care about men." Feminists fight for equality after all, don't they? As I will show, this is only a pretense.

Feminists have a social constructivist view of gender. They believe that boys and girls are born with exactly the same minds, and society engineers them to believe certain ways. This has been debunked on a general level and at the gender level. Yet this view is still prominent in feminism. Here's two outcasts of feminism talking about it.

What does this result in? Well, it results in a line of thinking that goes a little something like this: So all differences between the genders are a result of social engineering? Oh my, that must mean men are socialised to be more physically aggressive than women. They're taught to beat and rape women! Men keep each other from being as peaceful as women! Men are evil!

...and that's where the concepts of 'toxic masculinity', 'rape culture' and "Teach men not to rape!" come from. Everything men do and say is scrutinized to make sure they don't get any wrong ideas. I can only imagine the similarity to how black Americans are treated and the outrage if the generalisation of, "Teach blacks not to shoot." became mainstream.

So, the type of thought shown in the comic, while seeming good-natured at first, carries huge anti-male ideological dogma behind it. If feminists really cared about men, they would accept the biological differences between the sexes, stop generalising men, and abandon their anti-male presuppositions.

Lasttoflinch · 2021-06-18T13:42:38+00:00

Change "men" to "women" and "feminist" to "masculinist" and all of the sudden it's misogynistic.

SageBus · 2021-06-18T21:45:44+00:00

The summary of this is : "I'll tell you if you are intelligent, only if you agree with me, and only if you agree with me you are considered a person (men or women)". The more I hear about feminism the more I realize it's about extremely toxic women having ammo to bring down 50% of the world population to silence them and has absolutely nothing to do with equality.

Zorthak_Fireaxe · 2021-06-18T20:35:50+00:00

If she truly believes that then she's an egalitarian, not a feminist.

SsoulBlade · 2021-06-18T20:17:57+00:00

Please point me where feminists say this and is a common sight.

redFenning22 · 2021-06-19T00:20:09+00:00

Would help if they could spell equality correctly lol

EgalitarianFacts · 2021-06-18T17:51:08+00:00

The moment women work half the jobs in resource extraction, refining, food production, heavy manufacturing, construction, sanitation, and all the rest...the moment women start supporting Equal Parenting laws, Equal Sentencing Laws, Paper Abortion laws, and Equal Hiring Laws that put men in female dominated industries, that is the moment I will start treating women like equals. And not ONE FUCKING NANOSECOND BEFORE.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2021-06-18T13:37:58+00:00

Shes not a feminist period tahts the whole rebuttal lmao.

Southerndude62 · 2021-06-18T17:16:29+00:00

Feminists care about men or equality for that matter, as much as I care about the trash I threw out today.

Feminism is a hate movement, and supported by corporations to push their products on the dumb manipulated feminists by virtue signalling.

the-mega-sad · 2021-06-18T21:19:05+00:00

Remember kids, if you have respect for men, you’re not a feminist

PaulfussKrile · 2021-06-18T19:09:16+00:00

Third and fourth wave feminism have killed the real purpose of feminism, which is to ensure a gender-equal society, and to tear down the patriarchal systems that oppressed both men and women alike. Thanks to the death of the original meaning, I self-identify as an egalitarian, which I am actually starting think is better.

spareaccountjack · 2021-06-18T21:04:54+00:00

i dont see the issue with the comic, i feel that although it is not what the majority of feminists say the actual content doesnt appear to be wrong, please explain im not attacking your view just curious on what you think the comic is wrong about

RunInRunOn · 2021-06-18T21:18:05+00:00

Both women are partially right here. The first women is right in the first three panels, and the second woman is right (to assume feminists hate men) in the fourth.

Title	A rebuttal of this feminist comic: How a social constructivist view of gender hurts men.
Author	Hey_itsmeguys
Upvotes	358
Comments	49
Date	June 18, 2021 1:35 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
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