Would any of you consider having a girlfriend without marriage or having kids?

phoenixgreek · 2021-06-22T00:48:05+00:00

The occasional blue moon I fantasize about some unicorn coming along to prove me wrong about everything I learned, but I leave the delusion because why is that unicorn with me in the first place? Probably because of what I can do for her, that's all.

goingmyownway_ghost · 2021-06-22T00:48:17+00:00

a girlfriend will somehow end up pregnant on "accident"...... too much room for bs unless u have a vasectomy, but even then it's still room for bs.

Twobithatter · 2021-06-22T00:44:14+00:00

Yea i would. I still do dating but i let be known early that I dont want kids and Im not into marriage.

Allanlemos · 2021-06-22T01:09:35+00:00

Sometimes, I still have my needs. But I'm always honest about not wanting anything serious, if she is fine with that and is not as toxic as the average modern woman, then we can date for a while.

throwthe88-2 · 2021-06-22T01:23:49+00:00

I would love to have a girlfriend and to lead this relationship deeper and closer and to get to marriage.

Today’s laws and society do not allow for any of this, though.

JordanFirdBird2 · 2021-06-22T01:41:32+00:00

A big fat NO.

PyschoWizard · 2021-06-22T02:08:05+00:00

Nope. I’d do a FWB but I don’t have the energy to deal with them constantly. I enjoy coming home to silence and doing whatever I feel like.

ReturningBum · 2021-06-22T04:02:02+00:00

This is actually the only acceptable way, firstly, because I hate the luxury of weddings and I just don't like churches and other useless formalities and the thing about kids, not really related to a relationship, but a fact that world is already overpopulated and so many children are starving to death, i just see wanting and having kids as the ultimate hypocrisy.

Would adopt a child on the other hand. that would make me more accomplished as a human being.

The problem is, most women are too selfish and fixated hard on opinions of others, so it's pretty possible, if I ever find one that loves me I'd have to do this things to not make her sad :(

ConsiderationOdd2929 · 2021-06-22T04:20:11+00:00

The purpose of dating is marriage. This would be you just playing yourself.

Don't do it.

Unforsaken_Dick · 2021-06-22T05:37:36+00:00

I'm anti-marriage, but I am not anti-dating or relationships. Although the more I see how fucked up our marriage system and laws are with modern women, the lest interested I am in getting into a serious relationship.. I say get with girls, have sex, have fun and all, just don't be a blue pilled cuck or simp. Also, never give your keys to your house to any girl, don't ever let anyone move their shit into your house, don't make any joint sharing accounts with them, and wear a damn condom. It's just for your own safety to protect yourself.

LeonBrFerreira · 2021-06-22T07:14:28+00:00

Getting a gf for a long time is like getting married. In the end you will be f@cked, so no.

trump4president2024 · 2021-06-22T10:25:57+00:00

No marriage, no kids, no living together.... but I am all in favor of a monogamous relationship within those parameters.

If women were truly the strong, empowered beings they claim to be, so would they.

But you will never find a woman to agree to those conditions.

They are in it for the cash and prizes..... if they can't get a legal footing into your life then they cannot collect.

martimargarita_ · 2021-06-23T09:20:19+00:00

(I am a woman. If female comments are not welcome here please delete my comment)

From my expierience the relationships OP is describing are the most happy ones. I feel like marriage is being romanticized in a very damaging and fatal way.

A dynamic that I have seen on married couples a lot is that none of the partners is being who they truly want to be and they lose themselves in marriage. Every desicion that is over 150€ or takes over 3 hours in time has to be approved by the respective partner. They become quite co dependent and after time they just get used to this dynamic. Individual pleasures get lost.

Also I have seen a lot of couples who are not married and who are child free, "DINK" - double income, no kids. From what I have seen these are the happiest couples and even after being together for 10+ years they are still in love like teenagers. Basically what happens is that they have 2 funds. One is the relationship fund in wich both contribute 50/50 - living costs, joint goals (things that both partners actively want and agree beforehand to finance, for example a new furniture for the living room or saving for a down payment of a flat EQUALLY) And the other fund is 100% their money. They can spent and use the money completely how they like. He wants to buy a 40k € car? He can without consulting her. She wants to spend 5k€ a year in an expensive Hobbie? She can without consulting him.

Now I know that it seems as if it was about the money, but in fact it is about the liberty to keep being one self and fulfilling own dreams without being FORCED to compromise.

These couples often get told why they don't marry or have kids, they get their love for each other questioned and sometimes comments are really rude.

BUT they are the happiest of all the couples I see!

I consider myself lucky to have such a relationship myself, too. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will tell you about how it works in my expierence.

So why am I here even tho I am not a man? I am reading MGTOW (and similar pages) for quite some time now, because I think that your posts and input are truly inspiring and I really stand behind that philosophy and the values in life. I felt like this community is the one that talks the most about integrity, loyalty, honesty, reaching goals, self improvement (healthy self improvement!), respect and accountability. Also, and I think this is my main motivation why I like you so much: I feel like you are a community that holds EVERYONE to the same standards, "even me".

These are topics that I miss reading in a consistent and not hypocritical manner and I feel like this community has the best approach to these values in our modern society.

So even if this comment gets (rightfully) deleted, I wanted to say thank you for being the big inspiration that you are on a consistent and daily basis.

53withtrollhair · 2021-06-22T11:36:54+00:00

Get some more Red Pills.

silly_birb · 2021-06-22T15:16:18+00:00

As Dave Chapelle said about being in a relationship with a woman

"...it's like being their psychilogist, you get 30 min of sex every 3 hours of therapy"

2021-06-22T01:53:53+00:00

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Groundbreaking_the2 · 2021-06-22T02:00:57+00:00

I have two kids... full custody... if I could have my current life without that absolute shit storm that was my married life, I would do it.

justaguy529 · 2021-06-22T07:35:31+00:00

the pill and the slut movement have divorced "dating" from the intended purpose of finding a serious partner. now they openly admit that if you're attractive then they'll give it up freely but if you're unattractive you'll have to "work for it". they have a string of shallow short term romances with no goal of achieving anything more substantial. in fact, they are taught to be combative with men every step of the way. they don't gain any marketable skills such as cooking, cleaning, maintaining a household. What use do I have for a skill-less woman who only knows social media, ordering fast food, texting 15 dudes at a time, and being a whore. as for children, I have a vasectomy and no children. divorce numbers are too high and too many women buy in the leftist nonsense. women are extremely vindictive especially to their kids father and will turn your son into a sissy just to spite you and turn your daughter into a feminist ho because women have no virtue to impart. no, I'll just continue working to pay off my home and work on self improvement.

p3b234cw4z2 · 2021-06-22T08:31:26+00:00

I am desperately looking forward to surrogacy.

darkmanilluminate · 2021-06-22T17:34:21+00:00

I’m in a FWB & it has certain perks. I’m FIRE, she works. So that takes up a lot of her time. She works in a field of interest to me (hobby related) so I get to meet some smart people & learn about stuff I’m already interested in along the way. I’m snipped, so no baby traps. I have no illusions about unicorn oneitis or forever after, it’s one day at a time for as long as we both enjoy our times together. I’ve been married (once) & thru the divorce machine, & was monk mode for a couple of years. I do what I want when I want & the “relationship” adjusts around that. Enjoying my turn. But no marriage, no cohabitation are nonnegotiable.

Lolilicous · 2021-06-22T22:51:43+00:00

you play with fire and it might burn you

Black_Jackel · 2021-06-23T00:16:19+00:00

Canute87 · 2021-06-23T05:04:01+00:00

What's the age range?

p3b234cw4z2 · 2021-06-22T02:41:34+00:00

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TheOddYehudi919 · 2021-06-22T00:56:36+00:00

I want kids. I want to raise them with a certain value system.

Title	Would any of you consider having a girlfriend without marriage or having kids?
Author	ThatOneTy
Upvotes	9
Comments	48
Date	June 22, 2021 12:22 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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