Title. I will explain, in some detail, the issues that I have noticed taking very deep roots in MGTOW.

One problem is that everyone seems to have forgotten that MGTOW itself is an ideology, not a group or collective, and that it does indeed have a specific definition.

One of the ideas of MGTOW is that every man, whether he agrees or disagrees with the ideas of MGTOW goes his own way in some form or fashion. Everyone seems to think that MGTOW is solely about the avoidance of women and that it ends there. This is false. MGTOW, while it does, and should continue to, encourage men to see female nature and the systems it has built to essentially enslave men, is about men deciding their own purpose and courses in life. Regardless of what they are is irrelevant. Advice or encouragement is one thing, zealously screeching “whamen bad” is another entirely. This is the primary issue with the main sub which now does more screeching than gentlemanly discussion, problem solving or masculine encouragement.

One more issue is men “in” MGTOW are slowly starting to try to tell other men how to live their lives as well, when they should, in fact, be doing the opposite. Once again, advice is one thing, screeching is another. Redpill rage also plays a significant part in this problem as, while newly opened eyes with smoldering anger must be allowed to burn, they must also be doused if they begin to recklessly ignite others. Those still mid rage are being allowed excessively free roam and are encouraged to continue to be angry rather than simmer down. They should be receiving productive encouragement that helps them adjust to their new realization of society and the world, not encouraged to keep hating its entirety. Left to their own devices most Ragers are more likely to draw an overzealous hateful mob similar to feminism.

MGTOW who do nothing besides hate or despise women are the least likely to begin rebuilding themselves. This is the opposite of what we want. We want men to be building themselves rather than tearing others down or plateauing, that is to say, getting stuck in the same place. MGTOW is starting to become a mindless collective of uncivilized idiots and screeching harpies not unlike feminism. This is the very thing MGTOW is meant to combat when put properly into practice. Men built civilization and so should do their best to remain civilized. The best way to do this is literally to go their own way, selflessly offer advice to other men and encourage self development, which we are seeing less of these days, drowned by redpill rage and pointless, undirected hatred.

This is the issue I see with MGTOW now a days and frankly, it’s an issue that shouldn’t even be noticeable in MGTOW. We are supposed to be better than this, not stooping to the level of our enemies.

What is better? To face a charging army on the flats, or force them to meet you, exhausted and drained, atop a tall hill?