Substituting lifting for Muay Thai.

Andorli · 2016-07-27T12:05:33+00:00

If your Muay Thai training will include strength training as well then it is completely fine. TRP emphasizes Lifting primarily because lifting is strength training which drastically increases your testosterone and improves your outlook on life, aesthetic gains is just a very beneficial side bonus.

Danedina · 2016-07-27T14:47:08+00:00

Based on my experience, if you can commit to the Muay Thai then do it, even if you have to sacrifice your lifting. Ideally you could do both, but if you only have time three days a week, then do the fighting.

You will be skinnier than if you lift, obviously. But I'm convinced that most women are fine with the fit look, and saying you train in kickboxing sounds much better to women than that you lift weights. It's a minority opinion around here, but it's based on my experience. Also, the Muay Thai will do wonders for your confidence and introduce you to the warrior brotherhood (sounds corny, but it's real).

Sepean · 2016-07-27T12:21:29+00:00

If you have enough muscle already it is fine.

RedDeadCred · 2016-07-27T13:17:39+00:00

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mag_gent · 2016-07-27T13:23:22+00:00

Muay Thai, boxing, fighting sports in general will focus mostly on cardio. Your coach may have you do body weight squats, lunges, push-ups, burpees, etc. But they will be high rep with the main purpose of increasing stamina.

Cardio is king in fighting sports. Very few people are going to consistently get one shot knock-outs on experienced opponents. In most cases the experienced fighter will just wait out your power shots in the first round or two and then proceed to systematically break you down. Another thing that most non-fighters don't understand is that getting a knock-out takes a lot of technique and luck. You have to have patience, good accuracy, good follow-through on your punches/kicks and the ability to defend yourself while finding holes in the other guys defense.

The reason why TRP says lift is because it is fairly easy to learn and gets the greatest results as far as aesthetics go. The average guy in fighting shape is not going to look huge and dominating. You have to decide for yourself what your primary goals are.

Polishrifle · 2016-07-27T13:57:50+00:00

Been training Muay Thai for three years now, so you really need to asses what you want to get out of your training.

Strength training is essential, but I would focus on technique initially and adapt to the Muay Thai workload. If you have fight aspirations, this advice is not for you, listen to your coach/trainer/khru.

Once there, I would add in your own strength training sessions. We do conditioning after our classes, but I view it entirely as GPP work so I do two strength training sessions a week.

Definitely focus on heavy compounds for your training sessions. You want to develop strength over size. Added size equals more weight which will slow you down.

If you feel like you're getting slower, do speedwork drills (hit focus mitts, focus on quick combinations or do kick drills/knee drills on the heavy bag). You will need a partner for both of these so make friends.

Thewelshpill · 2016-07-27T12:22:27+00:00

i guess it depends on how much time your willing to dedicate, i do stronglifts 5x5 with my wrestling, bjj, muay thai and it works very well, also Plyometrics on the build up to a fight. 5x5 is for strength training and not hypertrophy so you wont need lots of rest between lifts.

on the other hand, TRP preaches lifting because it teaches you to set goals and work ethic along with aesthetics, posture and frame which honestly can be achieved through sports like muay thai. For me lifting isn't enough, knowing i can handle shit makes me walk with purpose and hold eye contact with anyone.

play_time_is_over · 2016-07-27T14:28:51+00:00

I lift 3x a week and do MA 3x a week.

If you're natty 3x a week is plenty and there's even benefits from rest days

MikeAlpha93 · 2016-07-27T15:30:38+00:00

I would cut down to two sessions/week as long as you're going 3+ sessions of Miya Thai/week. Read up on tactical barbell - they have programs for people with your priorities.

chooseaburner · 2016-07-27T17:19:31+00:00

Lifting is recommended because it gives the best benefits, can be done anywhere and can be done on a near-destitute budget. People have made weights with a piece of rebar and some concrete.

The point isn't to lift but to get in shape. If hiking is your thing, that's fine. If swimming is your thing, that's fine. If you want to power lift and look like you wrestle bears and punch trees for the logging company for a living, that's fine too. The problem isn't whether or not you lift, it's whether or not you're realistic about your goals and where you're going. If you do Muay Thai you're probably not going to look like you walked off the cover of a fashion magazine. If you're fine with this, there's no problem. Being in shape is the most important aspect here. Having physical hobbies is the most important aspect here. The only person you fail if you fuck this up is you, so I guess I'd ask how badly you want to lie to yourself. Some people get through life just fine living in a delusion.

Title	Substituting lifting for Muay Thai.
Author	dude_in_ny
Upvotes	4
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Date	July 27, 2016 11:59 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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