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To Keep Women in the Workforce, Men Need to Do More at Home

noanalysis7931

April 21, 2021
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Title To Keep Women in the Workforce, Men Need to Do More at Home
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noanalysis7931

Upvotes 13
Comments 15
Date April 21, 2021 11:46 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mvslix/to_keep_women_in_the_workforce_men_need_to_do/
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Comments

[–]ArgueLater 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Saw a similar article recently. My take: if men are taking care of the house, they should set the standard. If they want to live like bachelors, so be it.

Obviously this wouldn't fly. Women have a lot of stuff, and a lot of standards; but those are theirs. If having the stuff and standards isn't worth the effort, then have less stuff and lower your standards. Don't go forcing it onto men.

Why can't men have the expectation of women to be less worried about this stuff? But women can expect men to worry more? It's just modern conveniences, not survival.

[–]pacsatonifil 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is probably a key issue. When I have women visit they won’t stop complaining about my house or how I organize or decorate. It works for me and I live here not them. I think that’s honestly a lot of it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That sounds like a good incentive for men to do less housework.

[–]polarstrawberry 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hot take: men and women should both choose if they want to be stay-at-home or not

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Allowing women to choose their own careers is part of what is called "choice feminism." Feminist academics have expressed concern that this will lead to under-representation in influential fields which will harm women. They believe women are too suggestible and will be influenced by society into making poor career choices. I have seen feminists non-sarcastically use the sentence "Choice feminism is problematic."

TL;DR: Feminists don't think that women are mentally capable of making their own choices and should be prevented from doing so. This is not a joke.

[–]polarstrawberry 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah there's a lot of different brands of feminists. That particular brand has the critical thinking skill of a used napkin. 🤷‍♀️ You win some you lose some

[–]AdikaHUN0328 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is a stay at home mom such a big problem? Like omg that women will have a family and have her unfortunately hardwired biological desires complete. There will be less rapist and mass shooters the biggest statistics about violent crimes is a broken family, hmmm yeah single mothers rise you are soooo cooool (nothing against single mothers who became single moms because other circumstances). Breaking the family model would destroy soceity or at least would fuck it up realy seriously.

[–]maritalades 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My brother was a 'househusband' for a while because it made 'financial sense'.

He soon found a job because he found it demeaning, and he should be the breadwinner.

I'm not dissing househusbandry, just relaying what my brother thought about the situation.

[–]bgk67 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was a stay-at-home dad for a few years, it was soul crushing. While many say they support the idea, the reality is that most people view you as less of a man.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My dad did it in the 70's, 80's and 90's. It wasn't considered that big of a deal in England.

[–]imjusthereforresearc 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What they're saying is that men should cut back more on what they do at home?

[–]SamaelET 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To make men do more at home, women should start paying half of everything (bills, groceries, dates, etc.)

[–]puthisrecordown 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Surely this makes sense? From what I understand, even when women started to move into the workplace they were often still expected to take full responsibility for the household chores. While women doing 100% of household tasks is obviously fine when they're not working, it's not fair to expect them to still do so when they're also in employment.

I don't think this article is saying that men should be taking on the majority of household tasks; I think its just saying that women often find it difficult to balance full-time work with home responsibilities, so men may need to make more of an effort to split things equally.

[–]OtherwiseTomato6863 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe we shouldnt set women in the workforce as the most important thing in society? Most women, most people generally, have jobs, not careers. They dont care much for them and find little meaning in work. Society should be more centered around the home generally, it's far more fulfilling

[–]IronJohnMRA 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much for not needing men.

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