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The comments are insane. Blatant sexism. Calling men not smart enough, too emotional, saying no man is a good leader, etc.

proexsniping

July 4, 2020
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Title The comments are insane. Blatant sexism. Calling men not smart enough, too emotional, saying no man is a good leader, etc.
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proexsniping

Upvotes 135
Comments 27
Date July 4, 2020 4:00 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hl5n42/the_comments_are_insane_blatant_sexism_calling/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/the-comments-are-insane-blatant-sexism-calling-men.848425
https://theredarchive.com/post/848425
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Comments

[–]RyansPutter 36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The comments are toxic, but the original tweet is hilarious.

DnD players have been ruining DM's plans since 1974. My favorite was the time that I was running a campaign where the players were based out of an airship and the boss battle involved mind flayers and their minions. When the PCs saw the mind flayers, instead of fighting them, they went back to the airship and blew up the mind flayer stronghold with the airship.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments are toxic, but the original tweet is hilarious.

DnD players have been ruining DM's plans since 1974.

Dude, totally. My stance is that any campaign in which players don't break the game is a bad, boring, poorly-run campaign. You're supposed to break the thing!

[–]proexsniping 43 points44 points45 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I can't believe misandry is so normalized in instagram.

[–]bunny100clubrt 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Link?

[–]proexsniping 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

https://imgur.com/gallery/2O8OzDR for the top comments. Wow even people in imgur still dislike my post which is literally about blatant sexism.

[–]LegendaryEmu1 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Really, men get emotional and start wars...Thats not the sterotype at all, and we know queens tend to start more wars, at least in europe.

Also really, trump and johnson, the latter just barely got into office and is doing okay, trump is, despite being a meme, doing okay and has a decent shot at reelection. Meanwhile New zealand is not actually doing that well comparatively to say...Australia, its big brother run by a damnable MAN.

The leader of belgium is a woman, Belgium is a terrible country where the only people who get ahead are rich politicians, everyone else gets fucked. Spain, biggest feminist safe haven, had its feminists fuck it over.

Some PEOPLE are good leaders, a lot aren't. Having a vagina doesn't mean you're a good leader.

[–]mhandanna 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

New Zealand is a city... it has 4 million people.

This is a recent trend due to women are wonderful affect, traditioanlly people would view women as crap leaders (which is not good we should not sterotype) but due to women are wonderful and men = evil its getting ridiclous... if you look at gamma bias:

https://malepsychology.org.uk/2018/12/04/why-are-there-so-many-disagreements-about-gender-issues-its-usually-down-to-gamma-bias/

For example a random one, but those boys that got stuck in that cave in Thailand... international attention bought so it becomes international problem... tough challenge... all men solve it and risk their lives to help the kids... not a single mention of gender.... 1 woman out of a team of 200 does something... OMG women in medicine wow.

Thats the postive side of gmma bias... now what about the negative? Look what happened in CHAZ/ CHOP in USA... awful leadership, the mayor said leave it... how long "it will be a summer of love" Trump said it needs to be shut down, she was like no no leave it, its "street party vibe" - the police chief is also female... so what happens? police kicked out, hunreds of shootings, robbings, people dead... a chunk of city is literally taken over in the country and decalred indepedant... massive failure, businesses leave, people put houses on sale, business all sue the city.... awful soft leadership.... crisis.... then she finally realises oh Trump was right and orders police to go in, they still havent done a good job..... anyway... no mention of gender now!

[–]Wo1fy7 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly trump has low odds in this election but I agree with your main point. Also they ignore all the great leaders like Lincoln and Obama.

[–]LegendaryEmu1 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think his odds are low at all, especially when his opponent is...well, not much of one, but its the democratic party that i think is hurting themselves(in the confusion) because they're going crazy, doing dumb things because its what they think is popular, while ignoring the things that are actually popular(eg. Pulling down statues, but not doing anything about police reform).

Everything the media is saying is that Trump will lose, but they hate him, so why trust them? He was also slated to lose last time and didn't.

But yeah, they dismiss the great male leaders because most leaders are male. Part of this whole thing about 'advocating' for women is men are all bad, forever and always have been, always will be, and women are perfect and never do bad things. Its completely delusional.

[–]anicebigrodforyou 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Except in real life feeding the wolves doesn’t work and they maul you to death

[–]heyitsEnricoPallazzo 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. It’s Dungeons & Dragons dude...LOTS of that stuff doesn’t work in “real life”

[–]RyansPutter 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They probably had levels in druid or ranger.

[–]Giuliano_Zhang 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments on the ig post are really disgusting, like they don't even make sense nor provide a valid argument

[–]LegendaryEmu1 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

...Later, when they left the town and the town couldn't feed them, the wolves ate everyone, the end.

An army of wolves sounds great until you realise the logistics involved.

Also by the very definition, they didn't take over anything, did they use the wolves to take over the town? No.

D&D or pathfinder isn't about quantity anyway, you could have a hundred wolves, one dragon takes them out though, call me when they negotiate with a tribe of Minotaurs or something actually difficult, not level 1 accomplishments.

[–]Spartan-417 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5e is massive on Action Economy, to be fair

The wolves are still useless against airborne hostiles, though

[–]GingerRazz 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The insane part of this to me is how he even acts like this is special let alone gender tied. I also suspect that he wasn't really following the rules right and didn't make them run handle animal checks and such to make it balanced with gameplay.

Don't get me wrong, I've had players do shit like that constantly. It's part of the fun of DnD. The thing is, if it was well done, the story would have had much more impact. There would have been complications the players adapted around. There would have been consequences. There would have been so much depth to the story, and speaking as a DM, we never cut out that part of the story because it makes it more real.

This just seems like woke virtue signalling with an undercurrent of misandry thinking that dude's playing DnD don't do the exact same kinds of things.

Hell, the story from a good DM would actually make the taming of the wolves be a problem to make them really earn the power of having a pack of wolves. Maybe it pissed off the villagers because they wanted the wolves dead as revenge for killing a child. Maybe the wolves are voracious and are outcompeting the villagers for food leading to famine. Maybe they just do something, anything to make it more complected that girl power friendship over fighting. That's how you get a good story going.

Even when I've DMd for elementary schoolers, they like those kinds of stories because it gives them struggles to think through and overcome. It makes them feel they earned their agency and rewards for the use of it. They like feeling like they made me give them what they wanted rather than they can just ask and get it.

[–]killcat 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gee you mean when you the ruler of that universe decided that that would work it worked, colour me surprised.

[–]Francis_Dollar_Hide 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Factually inaccurate:
https://www.thecut.com/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html#:~:text=Harish%20analyzed%2028%20European%20queenly,the%20reign%20of%20a%20king.

[–]proexsniping 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://imgur.com/gallery/2O8OzDR for the top comments.

[–]alclarkey 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Because that's how wolves work right?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Because that's how wolves work right?

In D&D? Yeah, they kind of do.

[–]Ranter619 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's disingenuous. Wolves don't get domesticated so fast. There is nothing about it in the rules. The DM threw away realism (yes, even in D&D non-magical stuff work exactly like real life) just to make the players feel good.

He made a mistake that cannot be replicated in reality. How many times has surrendering to an invading army without a fight has made said invading army think "Oh shit, these are nice guys, I better leave"?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You haven't played much, have you?

That's disingenuous.

Bullshit. I've been in lots of campaigns and stuff like this often happens (depending on DM's temperament and play style).

yes, even in D&D non-magical stuff work exactly like real life

This is just a knee-slapper.

Encumbrance in D&D does not even remotely work like it does in real life (someone w/STR & CON each of 8 or 9 can carry over 100 lbs of gear all day long and neither collapse nor even suffer a penalty when surprised at the end of the day by monsters and entering into combat). For that matter, neither does the simple movement of walking or running. For that matter, neither do injury, healing, and death. Not even a little bit.

There is nothing about it in the rules.

Which means it's up to the DM's discretion how the wolves will respond.

The DM threw away realism just to make the players feel good.

D&D has approximately nothing to do with realism (except where Mark Rosewater & co. have perverted it to be more like M:tG and less like itself). It derives straight from Gygax and his friends wanting to go on imaginary adventures in Middle Earth. D&D, is not like reality; it's like Middle Earth (hence it's charm).

This was a father running a campaign for his young daughter and her friends: in that context he made an excellent DM's judgment on the interaction.

[–]valenin 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

excellent DMs judgement on the interaction.

... which he then followed by an absolute smooth brain translation from his game table to real life.

‘Girls are such peaceful and productive problem solvers because I let my daughter domesticate an imaginary pack of wolves with some imaginary steaks’ makes exactly the same amount of sense as ‘boys are natural entrepreneurs, for example my son just made his little video game guy slam his head into a brick and coins came out!’

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, well, here I don't disagree at all. Mind you, I do also suspect the guy was being at least a bit facetious in the whole thing.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, because in all of history, the world has been taken over by being friendly. /s

I don't know if he's unironically trying to provoke and mock people.

[–]DubsPackage 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly the daughters had a very lenient DM (dad)

If it were me, I would have made them roll dice, if they roll higher than 10 then it works and the wolves are controlled, if they roll lower than 10, the wolves get angrier and turn on them.

This is how you DM, take notes.

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