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NYT excuse for Asia Argento: She's A Victim Of Italy’s ‘Unbendingly Patriarchal Society’

JohnChrissy

August 23, 2018
284 upvotes
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/34922/nyt-asia-argento-victim-italys-unbendingly-paul-bois?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
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Title NYT excuse for Asia Argento: She's A Victim Of Italy’s ‘Unbendingly Patriarchal Society’
Author

JohnChrissy

Upvotes 284
Comments 48
Date August 23, 2018 8:40 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/99r0fg/nyt_excuse_for_asia_argento_shes_a_victim_of/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/nyt-excuse-for-asia-argento-shes-a-victim-of.895584
https://theredarchive.com/post/895584
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Comments

[–]TheShShCreature 49 points50 points51 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What are they gonna say when she actually gets convicted?

[–]Lethn 32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They'll just repeat the same tired old bullshit and paint her as the victim the same way they do with every other female paedophile or woman that goes under the age of consent.

This is something people need to pay attention to when they write these sorts of articles. As has been pointed out tirelessly by MRAs, the media never ever uses the words 'rape' when it comes to a woman when describing them raping someone younger than them they don't call it paedophilia very often interestingly as well.

This is on purpose, it isn't an accident but it's remarkable that of all the things they've chosen to die for defending female paedophilia seems to be something they are absolutely obsessed with and that's a mystery I haven't really been able to crack yet. Sure, there's that usual narrative of women being the victims of the patriarchy and men always have the power therefore it's not rape. There is something more to this though, you don't get that fanatical and defensive about something unless you have more to hide within your ideology if you get my drift.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Many of them probably think it in terms of women's sexual empowerment. And all negativity as the patriarchy's way to repress their sexuality. If a boy is willing to have consensual sex, who has any right to forbid women from expressing their sexuality - with somebody who doesn't yet belong to the oppressing class, men. (As a side note, 17 is above the age of consent in Europe and most of the USA,)

[–]mcavvacm 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That the EU is patriarchal and must be broken down.

[–]easythirtythree 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can she be tried? Documents say she settled out of court/statute of limitations on sex offense cases.

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Settling out of court would not affect a criminal prosecution.
The three year statute of limitations, or one year for a misdemeanour, would make it a no go unless there is something that resets the counter for the start time.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The patriarchy punished another female rape victim.

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Italian press? They would say more of the same I guess. They don't take kindly to women having sex with anyone but their own husband or perhaps the Prime Minister.

A conviction would only be for statutory rape, a technical offense since 17 is above the age of consent in all but ten US states.

But since the age of consent in Italy is 14 I don't know how much fake outrage they would be able to muster. I imagine they would go for the age difference and the motherly role she had played. Italian men tend to be very close to their mothers, it would be a sensitive topic.

[–]89peters 80 points81 points82 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Keep it up feminists. Every word you write is a new shovel full of dirt in your own graves.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn't expect any less from a mainstream newspaper that defended Sarah Jeong and gave her a position on their editing board.

[–]CptFizz 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also the boss is the same guy who covered for pedophile Jimmy Saville while being chief of BBC.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahaha.

You know, this was the perfect fucking opportunity for feminists. This is all they had to do:

What Asia Argento did was repulsive and exploitative behavior. It sickens us that someone would take advantage of a seventeen year old boy like she did, especially considering the context of their relationship. We stand with all sexual assault victims.

Done. All feminists had to do was unite against her behavior. Everyone would have appreciated that and been grateful for their fairness.

Instead they've given us even more indisputable evidence that they don't take sexual assault on men seriously.

[–]DignifiedAlpaca 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. This is the strongest proof I have seen yet that the #MeToo movement is primarily being used as an excuse to push anti-male hatred. Helping victims of sexual assault appears to be the secondary motive for most of those leading the movement.

[–]dontpet 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm not following this closely and am enjoying the snippets I read.

I'm going to go "not all feminists... On you. We can be subtle enough notice that some feminists are saying she likely should be punished.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sure, let's go with that then. Some feminists agree that Asia Argento should be punished.

Searching her name on the largest feminist boards on reddit, you will find nearly nothing about this. The top story I found on TwoX was downvoted to 0. Moderators there have been deleting posts about Asia Argento.

Then you look for Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Brock Turner, or other male rapist posts, and you get pages and pages of discussion and outrage. Moderators there actively participate i the posts. Huh. That's weird.

So yeah, the number of feminists who are completely silent, quietly dismissing the allegations, and otherwise just trying to bury the story substantially outweighs the number of those who consider this a real problem.

[–]dontpet 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for doing the research. Having heard that, yes, let's go with the narrative that it is pretty close to black and white.

I still prefer some gray, but in this case I'll make that a very dark gray.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oh wow “some”! Well your movement is forgiven!

Hey guys! Third wave feminism is A-OK, some of them don’t condone rape!

[–]dontpet 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Those that don't are horrible. But I hate going all black and white on things. The world is much more subtle than that and we do a disservice to everyone by acting that way.

[–]NoGardE 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I do think it's fair to hold the movement accountable for its leadership and its most supported proponents. NOW, MeToo, The NYT Editorial board, these are pretty much aligned in the shitter. There need to be more obvious, well-supported people, calling themselves feminists and calling these idiots out.

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Here are NY Times articles about it. They are not condoning rape.
MensRights headlines have the same credibility as Alex Jones, you have to read the articles.

Asia Argento, a #MeToo Leader, Made a Deal With Her Own Accuser
https://archive.is/bc66H

Asia Argento Scandal Makes for Open Season on #MeToo in Italy
http://archive.is/cjmxe

As for the "leadership" of MeToo, founder Tarana Bourke immediately expressed happiness that women being exposed is a sign of health in the movement.

[–]dontpet 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Me too. If they were dumb enough to go with a black and white portrayal of the issue they deserve what they get.

The exception would be if they expressed a range of views.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Too bad your movement doesn't follow your philosophy.

Face facts, believing women should be punished when committing crimes is not feminist belief as they're advocating for shutting down female prisons because most are there for petty crimes while not extending the same courtesy to male convicts. Makes it difficult to trust their opinion on female criminals and rapists, period. Especially as they're quick to make it all about how women have it worse and that male victims are non-existent so its better to ignore their plight altogether in favor of female victims.

You want to talk subtly? It and feminism doesn't go together.

[–]dontpet 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad your movement doesn't follow your philosophy.

I'm confused what you mean by my movement.

I'm generally ok about it if some of you others want to go all ira in your attitude. I'll be Sinn fein this time around.

Just don't get suck there. Being stuck in anger isn't good for you.

I've spent to much time being angry about men's issues, myself. I'm not over it, but I don't want to feed it either.

[–]MGTOWManofMystery 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, Italian society as a whole held a gun to her head and made her rape a child.

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Childhood ends on the 14th birthday in Italy, sexually.

I suspect many Italians ridicule the notion that a female can rape a male. Yet another example of rape culture.

[–]sric2838 44 points45 points46 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The never sexist, never racist writers at the NYT would never write that!!!

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What they wrote was a lot more interesting. They don't excuse her, they explain why she has always been unpopular in Italian media (which are nearly all owned by Silvio Berlusconi I believe).

The original NYTimes article:
http://archive.is/cjmxe

[–]more863-also 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except they do apologize for her, repeatedly, making all sorts of exculpatory statements they'd never make for another rapist. Need me to quote those parts?

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OK. But quote the actual NY Times article below not the one based on it.

Asia Argento Scandal Makes for Open Season on #MeToo in Italy http://archive.is/cjmxe

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Translation: The devil made her do it.

[+]CapnPoot1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

How shocking

[–]doklaan 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We should start taking bets on how many nyt articles will NOT use the word patriarchy in a given day.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Patriarchy, when it exists, exists for the benefit of women. Men are the only piece of the patriarchal family that can be killed off and replaced without tragedy.

[–]mwobuddy 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, she's a victim of feminism, because it was feminism who demanded an age of consent of 18 in california, which she broke.

[–]thrway_1000 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/cSFVa

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh good. I was horrified that for once a woman would just be held accountable for her own actions. I'm glad NYT found the men responsible.

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The actual NYTimes article is more interesting:
http://archive.is/cjmxe

[–]TheImpossible1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So when are we seeing this witch getting locked up?

Salvini should strip her of citizenship.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...this message was approved by Sarah Jeong.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I can't wait until Trump gets reelected so he can more openly and actively fight against the mysandrists with much less political risk

[–]McFeely_Smackup 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait...has Trump been timidly tip toeing through the minefield of politics up until now?

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After the 2020 election at the biggest inauguration party in history he will strip off the suit and burst out of the human skin, revealing his lizard form which will rapidly grow to T-Rex size. We will wish we had thought harder about the meaning of those tiny hands.

[–]atred 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why would you want to destroy the country for that? Isn't that like cutting off your nose to spite the face?

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ummm a country in which men are oppressed is already ruined. What good is anything else if being a man condemns you to a life of slavery?

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're a real glass-half-full kind of guy. Can't you just feel a little bit happy that the female oppressors will have a good life? Or are they not people?

[–]antilopes -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I can't wait until an asteroid travelling at 10,000mph replaces the White House with a large crater, allowing the US to start rebuilding its self-respect.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

then go hang out with your Title IX Hussein Obama

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"then go hang out with your Title IX Husssssein Obama"

Fixed. To get more emphasis on the Hussein it helps to stress the ss sound, stretching it out like a snake.
It works best with wild crazy eyes and a lot of spittle.

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