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Female NYU Professor Suspended For Sexually Harassing Male Student

Nvr2Much

August 15, 2018
297 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://gothamist.com/2018/08/14/female_nyu_professor_suspended.php
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Title Female NYU Professor Suspended For Sexually Harassing Male Student
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Nvr2Much

Upvotes 297
Comments 24
Date August 15, 2018 1:58 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
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[–]89peters 52 points53 points54 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Umm...suspended? Why wasn't she fired? What the hell is going on here!? :( How long are we going to tolerate this sexual predator preying on her male students -- tarantula like?

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Suspension is usually a necessary step so they do due diligence in firing her. It's likely part of the union contract.

[–]89peters 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't you hear me? I said "tarantula-like."

This is a clear and present danger.

[–]Vman2 25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The whole case is a summary of feminism in a nut shell.

Apart from all the other daming things about this, NYU has had a policy specifically prohibiting an intimate relationship between "A faculty member and a graduate student in the same discipline or academic program" and " Although it is recognized that the student or subordinate may be a full and willing participant in an Intimate Relationship, both the responsibility for adhering to this policy and the consequences for violating it fall upon the person in a position of power or authority, rather than the student or subordinate. "

The professor has stated that she had an intimate relationship with her graduate student because in her defence she claimed it was consensual.

Anyone think that a male professor would still have his job if he violated this policy?

It might have all died away if it were not for the letter from 50 other prominent feminists in a gross act of hypocrisy.

Now there is some speculation that NYU might be seeking for a way to arrange an early retirement for Avital Ronell.

The reality is that these 50 feminist professors have exposed their own hypocrisy and damned themselves.

[–]iburiedmyshovel 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You would think the fact that he is married to a man would refute that claim.

[–]thrway_1000 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Feminists always cover for their own and don't want the same rules applied to themselves. Hypocrites.

Archive -- https://archive.is/x8wJd

[+]antilopes -15 points-14 points-13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with your identifying them as feminists. Many of the the 50 signatories to that letter are feminist but they are much more relevantly described as top academics.

If you want to see what actual feminists say about Ronell and about the letter, read the nine hundred comments under the New York Times article. You can choose Reader Picks or NYT Picks for a shorter list of popular comments.

NYT readers include a lot of feminists. Many readers identify themselves as such, or use feminist concepts to criticise Ronell and the letter-writers.

The letters are almost 100% critical, which is unusual on a subject like this. I agree about hypocrisy and wanting to protect their own kind from the rules, but it is academics doing it not feminists as such.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In other words, feminists with influence are behind her, and everyday feminists are unwitting accomplices to their opportunism and corruption.

[–]revengeofthedirty47 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

perfectly said.

[–]antilopes -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Academics including many feminists" is more accurate than "feminists with influence". There are plenty of influential feminists who are non-academic. For example Clementine Ford did a degree which included gender studies but she's not academic. She's a fighter and writer and rabble-rouser but doctrinal consistency is not really a concern for her.

How are everyday feminists accomplices?

They don't seem unwitting at all, they seem to have a better understanding of the matter than the academics.

On the other hand some of the academics have personal experience of her protege and may have insight into their relationship. Their behavior seems very strange, maybe it is because they know something we don't.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Supended for one year. Is that WITH pay? Did this woman just get 1 years paid vacation? I wouldn't be surprised if she did.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The good old gals network letter saying she can’t be guilty because she’s a good writer is chilling. These people are literally insane.

[–]Meistermalkav 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nope.

This is the reaction of rapists who get it in their thick heads that what they are doing is not ok.

[–]timdesuyo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hemingway never did anything sexually inappropriate. I mean, clearly. Look how good his writing is. It's impossible for him to have.

[–]Mode1961 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TLDR: It is not sexual harassment when the person is a good writer and popular

/s

EDIT: When I wrote that out, I laughed out loud, I mean no one could be that stupid right, especially highly educated people and yet that is exactly what a lot of these professors are saying.

Imagine the outcry if 50 Hollywood producers wrote such a letter in defence of Harvey Weinstein.

[–]svenskbitch 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If a man had done this - even if you only look at hard, written evidence - even I would have found suspension reasonable and the behaviour unacceptable.

What strikes me the most is that the arguments her supporters use sound like the parodical, strawman version of people defending an accused and probably guilty male professor.

Perhaps appropriate, as the things she is accused of sound equally parodical. Even Weinstein had more sense than to write e-mails like that, I suspect.

[–]cankle_h8r 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women get suspended and get a second chance. Men are fired and their futures completely destroyed with almost no chance of ever working in the same field.

[–]mybuttiswaytoosmall 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Higher education has become scam and a joke in this country. Pathetic.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And the other feminists are supporting her. Amazing how stupid they have become. One would think they would be willing to throw her under the bus to at least maintain the facade.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe she could use her years vacation to reflect on her tremendous privilege as a woman in modern society.

Nah, she'll convince herself she's the victim of evil manarchy out to crush proud lesbians of color and double down.

[–]IronJohnMRA 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

forcing him to sleep in bed with her

Honestly, I gotta wonder about that one. How was she able to pull this off?

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's an academic superstar. Imagine the Rolling Stones at 61, except still putting out hits and packing stadiums.

A professor of comparative linguistics, she's going to be interesting, erudite and witty. She can mentor him through his PhD and provide intros and contacts and recommendations, without which his career may be hard to launch. What's not to like?
She's twice his age, that is only a little freaky. In my experience.

[–]youcantduckthezucc 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ugh.

[–]CptFizz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Born in Prague to Israeli diplomats, Avital Ronell's cultural background appears quite diverse. The Jewish family moved from Prague to Tel Aviv to New York.

Why is every feminist professor jewish?

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