If Men owe Women Special Favors like Gifts and Chivalry, what do WOMEN owe men?!

fengpi · 2018-02-16T05:46:31+00:00

Traditional women think they are owed stuff because of their body/uterus/vagina/femininity/beauty.

Feminists think they are owed stuff because they're victims and because of their body/uterus/vagina (beauty and femininity are entirely irrelevant to the equation). In fact, it is immoral to not provide-- with a smile down on bended knee-- what a woman says she is owed (ie: her "needs"), and a woman need not be grateful to her oppressors who are simply doing the right thing for once.

BernieSandersgirl101 · 2018-02-16T05:13:33+00:00

To be honest, it's still a man's decision to treat a woman like you mention. I know society pressures men into it, but I don't want to dismiss their responsibility at all.

What I do want to do is tell men that they have a choice. Favor women if you want, but at least understand that no matter what anyone says, you aren't required to.

allthewayup0000 · 2018-02-16T02:15:04+00:00

Women have a pussy pass. They get everything in exchange for that thing.

TCDWarrior · 2018-02-16T06:46:47+00:00

same reason peacocks have tail feathers

JackReaper333 · 2018-02-16T12:34:15+00:00

Women owe men constant reminders of the fact that all men are evil and owe women whatever they want, duh.

All women have the horrible and unfair burden of being professional Privilege Checkers.

Heavy is the head that wears the tiara.

Excelcior47 · 2018-02-16T19:12:05+00:00

I agree with what zulu127 said:

Women are the gatekeepers of reproduction.

This is completely true as advocated by Jordan Peterson. However we as a society have come far from the original humans social structure, and as more and more men are choosing not to play the game, the ball is falling in the womens' court, to give us men a reason to stick around.

That reason used to be sex, as it is a huge drive for males to reproduce. But with the combined effects of sex robots and the rising dangers of marriage and relationships, many are choosing to stay away from women. Women have noticed that the invention and social acceptance of sex robots have diminished their power in society and are trying to shame men into not buying them, going so far as to ban the production and sale in certain countries.

However it is impossible to stop technological progress, so this only delays the inevitable.

So I believe it is now up to women to become desirable in ways other than sex to attract a male partner. That is what a lot of feminists are afraid of.

All that said I love the way to treat men as actual equals and want to repay them in terms of affection, that's rare these days. What I hope is that soon this will become the norm not the exception.

ForgotYouTexted · 2018-02-17T09:53:55+00:00

Lol, you should be grateful for my time. /s

Mr_MRAnarchist · 2018-02-20T20:19:42+00:00

You can't deny biology. Women are attracted to masculine men who "go after what they want"...especially women. Men are attracted to submissive/ feminine women who are "willing to be dominated".

Women owe men offspring. That's what it all comes down to.

xfritz5375 · 2018-02-16T03:12:59+00:00

Women should be polite to men too, but biologically, men pursue and women are pursued for relationships. This means that a man needs to prove to whatever woman he is into that he is the best man for her, and in our society, it makes sense that this is communicated through gifts and chivalry. If you just think about it at a surface level, yes it's unfair, but if you look at it as a men being the persuer and the woman being the pursued, it makes more sense. Being polite and giving gifts should extend to both parties, but it makes sense for men to be doing this more.

xfritz5375 · 2018-02-16T03:15:50+00:00

Normally, women are pursued and men pursue in relationships. This is why men are expected to be chivalrous and give gifts, while its not expected of women to the same degree. These things, in a good relationship, extend both ways, but it is more from the man because of the male being the pursuer.

Title	If Men owe Women Special Favors like Gifts and Chivalry, what do WOMEN owe men?!
Author	BernieSandersgirl101
Upvotes	8
Comments	42
Date	February 16, 2018 2:10 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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