Decorated and commended policeman who once saved a woman from drowning has his life and career ruined by a false rape allegation. Judge does the right think and locks her up for 27 months.
*"''What Murray-Evans did is horrendous. When someone runs a check on my name an arrest for rape comes up, that will stay with me for the rest of my life.
'When I go through airports I don't know what's coming up on the check. I have been stopped and waited a longer time when most people pass through. You're paranoid all the time.'"*
So I'm not sure exactly which searches will reflect the arrest. Would a background check show it when applying for a job? I don't know. Maybe.
I believe their record system is similar to Canada's where police/arrest/mental health records are not expunged.
There is an actual logical reason for it, it's to ensure those that escape justice through loopholes in the court system are continued to be scrutinised by enforcement agencies when further involvement with the individual occurs often to assist with repeat or serial offenders, or to provide fore-warning to law enforcement officers in regards to safety. This has the unfortunate effect that people can never be absolved of their police record even when they absolutely had no involvement in a crime or even if a crime actually occurred and that the process to completely expunge police records means you have to apply to have it appealed through each agency.
It may have the effect of some individuals are unjustly scrutinised, but because the policy covers certain mental health records as well--it does assist police in safe interaction with known disturbed individuals. The police organisations that lobby for the practice's subsistence really pay no attention to collateral damage even when it is their own staff that ends up in the sling--but those staff members do have easier access to the process of removing those records through appeal which the general public does not.
What is rather unfortunate is that the records the officer is referring to are records held within his own organisation and are a result of the policies of the organisation he aligns himself with. In some ways, there's a sliver of it being his own misfortune should it be the case that he ever directly supported or relied on the policy at any given time that assisted with his safety when interacting with known dangerous persons. Perhaps it should shed light on the fact that such records are damaging when erroneous and especially damaging such in the case with Canada's approach where those records are accessible by prospective employers et al.
Would a background check show it when applying for a job?
Yes. And there is no time-related automatic expunging of the record.
Even applying is not concrete that it will be approved. If you don't apply then they will not automatically remove your records as their assumption is you should be aware that the records exist and that not requesting the records be destroyed is considered 'no contest' to their use.
Doesn't make him whole again. I'm glad the judge handed this girl her ass on a platter, but sickened at the thought that most likely outcome of this would have been total life destruction to a further degree or even jail time for the innocent officer.
I am fucking sick to my core that modern gender politics has amounted to playing your life ruining trump cards whenever you feel scorned, and truly believe that anybody who supports actions like this to further their own political agenda are purely malevolent people to whom worse is punishments are deserved.
Fuck this system and fuck the people that perpetuate it. We're never gonna get anywhere until we realise that love and respect is the only path forward.
Did the judge hand this girl her ass on a platter? 27 months? He would've been in for much longer I'm sure and his life would've been ruined after that.
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Aren't they? This seems almost obvious
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Not according to the article. He said the rape arrest will stay on his record.
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From the article:
*"''What Murray-Evans did is horrendous. When someone runs a check on my name an arrest for rape comes up, that will stay with me for the rest of my life.
'When I go through airports I don't know what's coming up on the check. I have been stopped and waited a longer time when most people pass through. You're paranoid all the time.'"*
So I'm not sure exactly which searches will reflect the arrest. Would a background check show it when applying for a job? I don't know. Maybe.
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I believe their record system is similar to Canada's where police/arrest/mental health records are not expunged.
There is an actual logical reason for it, it's to ensure those that escape justice through loopholes in the court system are continued to be scrutinised by enforcement agencies when further involvement with the individual occurs often to assist with repeat or serial offenders, or to provide fore-warning to law enforcement officers in regards to safety. This has the unfortunate effect that people can never be absolved of their police record even when they absolutely had no involvement in a crime or even if a crime actually occurred and that the process to completely expunge police records means you have to apply to have it appealed through each agency.
It may have the effect of some individuals are unjustly scrutinised, but because the policy covers certain mental health records as well--it does assist police in safe interaction with known disturbed individuals. The police organisations that lobby for the practice's subsistence really pay no attention to collateral damage even when it is their own staff that ends up in the sling--but those staff members do have easier access to the process of removing those records through appeal which the general public does not.
What is rather unfortunate is that the records the officer is referring to are records held within his own organisation and are a result of the policies of the organisation he aligns himself with. In some ways, there's a sliver of it being his own misfortune should it be the case that he ever directly supported or relied on the policy at any given time that assisted with his safety when interacting with known dangerous persons. Perhaps it should shed light on the fact that such records are damaging when erroneous and especially damaging such in the case with Canada's approach where those records are accessible by prospective employers et al.
Yes. And there is no time-related automatic expunging of the record.
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Then it is wrong. When the "victim" is jailed for a false accusation, expungement should be automatic.
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Yes, you had to apply.
Even applying is not concrete that it will be approved. If you don't apply then they will not automatically remove your records as their assumption is you should be aware that the records exist and that not requesting the records be destroyed is considered 'no contest' to their use.
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Doesn't make him whole again. I'm glad the judge handed this girl her ass on a platter, but sickened at the thought that most likely outcome of this would have been total life destruction to a further degree or even jail time for the innocent officer.
I am fucking sick to my core that modern gender politics has amounted to playing your life ruining trump cards whenever you feel scorned, and truly believe that anybody who supports actions like this to further their own political agenda are purely malevolent people to whom worse is punishments are deserved.
Fuck this system and fuck the people that perpetuate it. We're never gonna get anywhere until we realise that love and respect is the only path forward.
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Did the judge hand this girl her ass on a platter? 27 months? He would've been in for much longer I'm sure and his life would've been ruined after that.
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More like trying to destroy someone's life, trying to get an innocent person jailed for several years and scorned. That's not just "lying"
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