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Contrary to popular opinion, "women who sexually abuse children are just as harmful to their victims as male abusers", and "female child sex offenders are much more likely to offend against their own children"

HeForeverBleeds

August 22, 2017
204 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://theconversation.com/women-who-sexually-abuse-children-are-just-as-harmful-to-their-victims-as-male-abusers-80395#
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Title Contrary to popular opinion, "women who sexually abuse children are just as harmful to their victims as male abusers", and "female child sex offenders are much more likely to offend against their own children"
Author

HeForeverBleeds

Upvotes 204
Comments 32
Date August 22, 2017 6:59 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6v9bmj/contrary_to_popular_opinion_women_who_sexually/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/contrary-to-popular-opinion-women-who-sexually.915464
https://theredarchive.com/post/915464
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Comments

[–]gayguyredditor 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I was molested by a female when I was 6. Nothing was done since I'm male and she's female and therefore couldn't hurt a male.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You sick fuck! Raping a poor woman at the age of six!

[–]gayguyredditor 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I was shocked by what u wrote, and then I realized u were being sarcastic.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No worries.

If I ever say anything disgusting like that, I don't really mean it.

I just like to liven the mood with some humour.

[–]gayguyredditor 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No worries. If I ever say anything disgusting like that, I don't really mean it. I just like to liven the mood with some humour.

People are so sensitive nowadays. It's annoying.

[–]JakeDC 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your comment offends me, asshole.

[–]gayguyredditor 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Abusing boys isn't funny you piece of shit.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are retarded. It goes by age you sick fuck!

[–]Imnotmrabut 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

FEMALE SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN
"While there are reasons why feminists limit discussions on the subject of women abusers, these reasons are valid only to feminism."
Michele Elliott (1994). Female Sexual Abuse of Children. Guilford Press. p. 100. ISBN 978-0-89862-004-7.
Video: Michell Elliott discussing the reality of female peadophiles - Bias, Disbelief and Institutional Failure

[–]ThatNinaGAL 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

My eternal PSA on this subject:

Nobody is likely to sexually abuse children. Not moms, not dads, not unrelated adults. Not druggies, not Bronys, not soccer coaches. It is a rare pathology.

[–]bufedad 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

It is a rare pathology.

That society seems to expect men to suffer from, and never women.

[–]ThatNinaGAL -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, but creating paranoia around potential female offenders hardly helps men. And it would be wrong to do even it DID help men.

[–]HeForeverBleeds[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What about this article sounds paranoid to you? It isn't saying most women are sexual predators; it's saying many sexual predators are women and that they're at least just as dangerous. There's nothing paranoid about this

The issue is that right now society's at the opposite extreme from being paranoid about female abusers, believing they don't exist in any significant capacity and that where they do they're basically harmless. Believe it or not, there's a happy medium

[–]bufedad 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

And it would be wrong to do even it DID help men.

Hell no it wouldn't. I'm sorry, but letting women feel what it's like to be male for awhile would only help the gender divide.

[+]ThatNinaGAL -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

When hurting other people seems like the way forward to you, you're on the wrong road.

[–]bufedad 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

When hurting other people seems like the way forward to you, you're on the wrong road.

That's easy to say when you are on the side currently doing the hurting.

[–]ThatNinaGAL -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

When you see your declared allies as members of "the side doing the hurting" because they are female, you are on the wrong road.

[–]bufedad 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

When you see your declared allies as members of "the side doing the hurting" because they are female, you are on the wrong road.

When you're allies are fighting hard to prevent themselves from being treated like you are... how much of an ally are they...

[–]ThatNinaGAL 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I'm not fighting hard against being mistreated. Nobody is trying to mistreat me. But if somebody was, mistreating you would not be on the table as an activist option.

[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

It's called equality. sometimes you have to give up your privileges...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Extremists create extemists.

It makes total sense for men to lose it and just go 'fuck it, put women in the coal mines, see how THEY like it', when every day they are told 'men have it easy' by whores.

[–]ThatNinaGAL 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, you're not a coal miner and I'm not a whore, and we're on the same side here.

It makes total sense to lose it and mace some asshole chanting "Jews will not replace us," but it doesn't solve the problem.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A better analogy would be someone macing someone saying "Jews are the superior race' (women are the superior sex), making legislations which benefit only jews, and then people complaining that you do so.

I mean, sure, you shouldn't do anything crazy in any case, but christ it gets to some people.

Entire lives, families, generations, ruined and abused because of this stupid gynocentric bullshit.

Circumcised at birth, shat on at school, kicked to the streets, then some cunt dares to say you're privledged.

[–]Dancing_Anatolia 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Punishment is a real part of the human condition. When shitty things happen to people who do shitty things, it encourages both them and the people who know them to be better people. It is the most simple style of morality.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes keep it hidden like that has been working for the past decades.

Go back to your pedo friends.

[–]Halafax 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a rare pathology.

Yes. But risk is the combination of existence of motive and opportunity of access.

Women have more unsupervised access to young children than men do. Due to social expectations (lack of suspicion), traditional gender roles, and family courts heavily favoring mothers.

Female predator methodologies follow the opportunities society provides, which are many. All predators do this, use what works. Women simply have more to work with in this case. They are also less likely to be detected, charged, and generally face fewer consequences if caught.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Surprising thing to see on the usually SJWish The Conversation. Bet the ABC won't be doing a special on this one, though!

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

By taking the two concepts together, that they are much more likely to offend against their own children, and thaat they are just as harmful, then their harm, even against their own children, is merely equal that of harm by men against rando children.

Something about this doesn't make sense.

[–]HeForeverBleeds[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why it's nice to read the article, because the headline doesn't always give the full story and sometimes can be misleading

Female child sex offenders can have disturbing and life-long impacts on their victims. These impacts are similar to the impacts for child victims of male sex offenders, including self-injury, substance abuse, depression, and difficulties with sexual identity. Most alarmingly, research has found victims sexually abused by both females and males said the abuse committed by females was more psychologically damaging than the abuse committed by males. There are also effects particular to victims sexually abused by females. Many victims of female-perpetrated sexual abuse struggle with the deep betrayal of having the one person they trust most in their entire lives--their mother or caregiver--sexually abuse them. In instances where the offender is the child’s mother, victims also report difficulty developing a sense of identity, even into adulthood.

So male and female perpetrators are similar in that in both cases the victims have many of the same problems (depression, self-injury, etc.), but then there are additional issues when the abuser is the mother or apparently a woman in general

[–]mwobuddy 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if that feeling of more abuse is because it violates cultural expectations, further reinforced by chronic cultural tellings of how males are abusers and females are victims. Its like a form of cultural gaslighting to the individual.

[–]rg57 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just as harmful

This tells us more about the absence of harm when the offender is male. Not surprising, as the harm is largely mythical (don't blame me... I didn't write the book) and like vaccines, is used as an easy excuse for pretty much anything bad that happened ever afterward.

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