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The Winds Of Change: My feminist high school was wrong: women can’t do 'anything' they want

Imnotmrabut

May 16, 2017
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/r/MensRights
http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/family/article/2017/05/15/my-feminist-high-school-was-wrong-women-cant-do-anything-they-want
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Title The Winds Of Change: My feminist high school was wrong: women can’t do 'anything' they want
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Imnotmrabut

Upvotes 17
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Date May 16, 2017 9:21 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]Ailer 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This isn't the winds of change at all. This is her demanding the workplace change again to suit her needs as a mother. She wants to work part time hours and get full time salary and benefits and prestige. She wants to work when and how she wants. In short, she wants to live like an artist, but without living hand to mouth.

And of course, if she was artistic, or creative, that is what she would be doing in the time she wants to fill with work, since it's basically the deal she has. And it is exactly what she is choosing to do by writing the article. But instead she wants the workplace to change... so she can go back and be told what to do?

Seriously, this shit is confusing. This woman is living the artists dream life, and she wants to go back to the plantation? Or does she want other women to stay on the plantation despite having children while she gets to stay at home and write articles? Does she just not feel rich enough, as though there is some empty hole she needs to fill?

I want flexible, interesting, well paid, part time opportunities that could suit both men and women to be the norm.

And I want world peace. Pretty much every one does. Good amount of effect it has had.

Work is hard. It takes effort. It has deadlines. It does not operate around you; you operate around it. It is, in many ways, similar to being a parent and operating around your child, and their particular ways and schedules.

This woman needs to take the job she already has more seriously, and maybe choose a topic other than what her feminist high school already did for her.

[–]Kyle_Fischer 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would gladly have my wife come to work, so I can stay home and feed, change, and entertain the child. Of course, she would have to go to law school, pass the bar exam, and open up her own firm. Or, we could live off of the salary of her job and be poor.

But, this pretty much summed up the article for me. After bitching about all the employment possibilities she had to give up to procreate, she writes:

"The truth is, I don’t want to work full time at this stage of my life." But, she demands that she has "options." Here's an option. Start your own company, like whoever it was that started the company you work for and fill it with a bunch of people whose main focus is their children and only want to work part time.

[–]Mens-Advocate 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent comment. The article is all about society giving women everything they want on a silver platter, with nary a word about what men might want.

It's similar to Anne-Marie Slaughter's demands (ably critiqued by Lori Gottlieb).

[–]spcarlin 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I want a part time job that pays millions, where Im the boss and in charge - except when I'd rather be gaming at home and things get hard and I don't feel like being in charge

[–]Sarin_G_Series 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

F### man, I just want someone to buy all the machines and materials for me, and let me make all the cool s### I want, but guarantee that they sell for fair market price, and I get to keep all the money. Someone else can pay the tax, and, if I machine out some guns or something, the BATFE can bother someone else with all their audits.

[–]yummyluckycharms 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This article is nothing but whining to be honest.

Its not society's responsibility to ensure or help people have children - it doesnt need to thanks to immigration. Thus, having children is a choice - much like do I buy the mercedes or do I buy the toyota. If a buy a merc, should I then whine about how high the maintenance costs are?

Take another look at the article and see what the author is really complaining about - having to raise the kid by herself without help from the hubby because hubby is working like crazy.

[–]v574v 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If only mankind invented some machine which could extract milk from breasts and another machine to keep the milk until it's needed - kinda like what we do with cow's milk except with women.

Or perhaps mankind should get to work on developing a "formula" that provides the required nutrition that will allow a baby to thrive without breast milk - yeah, it's probably not as good as the real thing, but your child better get used to substitutes it's going to see a lot of them in it's life as you persue your career.

No man has ever died saying 'I wish I spent more time at work'.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My wife's dedication to pumping when she went back to work was amazing. We bought a deep freeze to keep it all.

We got to the point where she was able to go on 4 day business trip and I could handle it all just fine just relying on frozen breast milk.

When my daughter was weened, I threw out almost 1/2 gallon of extra frozen milk.

We live very close to a milk bank and discussed her just continuing to pump to help them out. But turns out, pumping 3x/day at the office is pretty terrible. She was willing to put up with it for her own spawn.

I think the problem the author of this piece has is that she, like a lot of people, took 'can do anything' to mean 'can do anything without consequences'. At some point, you make your choices and those choices eliminate other choices. This is true for everyone, not just women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You can do anything. You cannot do everything

Nobody gets to "Have it all".

You want the benifits of a full time career? Great. Find a day care and rejoin the full time workforce. Nobody is stopping you.

[–]toblotron 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do agree that the situation of mothers (in whatever country she lives) could be better. I'm swedish, and we get (IIRC) 1.5 years of payed parental leave to split between us - nobody had complained that I (a guy) takes half of the sick - kid days, or that I take 2 hours of parental leave every day so I'll have time to pick up (as well as drop off) the kids

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