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Reminder: Help send the Honey Badgers to Australia for ICMI17 - 1 week left!

DaNiceguy

May 13, 2017
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/r/MensRights
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Title Reminder: Help send the Honey Badgers to Australia for ICMI17 - 1 week left!
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DaNiceguy

Upvotes 111
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Date May 13, 2017 1:56 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6axy12/reminder_help_send_the_honey_badgers_to_australia/
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Comments

[–]theothermod[M] [score hidden] 9 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

Now fully funded, thanks to the generosity of our readers!

[–]atheist4thecause 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link

I like the Honey Badgers, but it seems to me that they are starting to get more support than maybe they deserve. We've seen lots of money thrown at them from a community that really doesn't have a whole lot of money to spend. When we gave money to Cassie Jaye to help fund a documentary, there was huge return on investment. I believe Dean Esmay even got money for a tooth, which would've improved the image of the MRM considerably at the time if he did indeed get his tooth fixed. But now all this money keeps going to the Honey Badgers for really what is a relatively low impact.

The Honey Badgers are asking for $13,500 to go to Australia. Is this really necessary? Couldn't men and/or the MRM be better improved by putting this money elsewhere? Couldn't the Honey Badgers themselves spend this money better? I mean, I'm not even trying to be unreasonable about this. $13,500 is a lot of money, and all of these people are starting to be sent all over the world. It seems more like a vacation than an improvement of the MRM. And I have to say, the way they went to one of "The Red Pill" documentaries and got incredibly drunk was extremely unprofessional. They were slurring their words, being incredibly inappropriate, etc.

Few groups/people get as much of a benefit from these mod stickies than the Honey Badgers. I would encourage the mods to really think about if all this money spent is really in the best interest of the MRM at this point, and is really a good way to spend the money within the community of the MRM. Or, is this unreasonable spending that has almost no impact on the MRM at this point. I'll probably get a lot of hate, but I think I'm raising reasonable questions, and I think the MRM could help guide the Honey Badgers into a more productive itinerary. /u/MRmod3 /u/AnnArchist /u/AloysiusC /u/typhonblue /u/FFXIV_Machinist /u/theothermod /u/mensmod /u/rMensRights

[+]DaNiceguy points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Given that Australia is the place where The Red Pill has been the most shut-down, I'd say yes, it's very much worth sending them.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why them over other MRA's that wouldn't have to spend $9,000 in flight? What more do these 4 individuals offer that 4 other individuals couldn't offer?

[+]DaNiceguy points 9 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Since it's come down to this, let me answer bluntly: they're women. They can go places and say things in support of men without the risk of sanction (official or otherwise) and violence (official or otherwise) that no man, no matter how righteous, eloquent and respected, would be allowed to.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then I'm happy their goal wasn't reached if their claim to fame is being women. I think we can do better in the MRM. But even going by your argument, why can't Australian women MRA's go speak? Is every year just going to hold the same speakers over and over? That would be quite disappointing.

[–]contractor808 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Part of creating a community of activists is promoting in-person meetings and networking. Shaking hands, planning, and commiserating face to face isn't something to ignore. If someone wants to spend their money to promote such a practice, or even simply to meet HBR in person, it's their business to do so.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sure, and it's the mods' business to choose whether to sticky those posts or whether they should choose more cost-effective options to sticky. So what's the problem?

[–]contractor808 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No problem, presenting a reason in favor of the sticky.

[–]theothermod[M] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

That's a thoughtful criticism, and I'll bear it in mind when deciding what to promote in future.

As an Australian, I think the movement could benefit from a visit by the Badgers, since the media would be interested in women who support men's rights.

The current promotion only has two more days to run, after which we'll feature something else.

[–]typhonblue 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

As a result of our fundraiser gaining publicity we were invited to speak on a tv show. If this comment is successful in diverting people from these sorts of endeavours that's one possible avenue of exposure lost to the MRM.

Personally I don't treat these trips as "vacations." On every single "vacation" I worked the entire time gathering interviews to archive the people and perspectives in our community.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyRwczIsk2BBXrsZWLb-9SHrh1jjQZKeS

I haven't requested you to sticky this but this comment definitely makes me wonder just how much we have to do to not be accused of "profiteering" by getting our so-called "vacations" paid for. And how much all of this is worth in the end to the community if this is the most upvoted comment in the thread.

[–]theothermod 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That may have been the most upvoted comment in the thread, but it doesn't represent all the readers. Some just went and donated.

When this thread was first stickied, the fund had raised $1,680.00 from 39 supporters.

Now, seven days later, it's 101.4% funded with 13,670.00 raised from 212 supporters.

So I wouldn't give up on this sub yet. You wouldn't have reached your goal without it.

See you in Sydney!

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah you're right.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just so you know we're attempting to get a meet up in Melbourne funded as well.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I didn't accuse you of "profiteering". I accused you of spending money unwisely. $9,000 in flights could do a lot of good for a lot of people. Instead, it'll be going to getting the Honey Badgers to speak at an event some other MRA could've spoken at anyways. Interesting how you misrepresent my argument when speaking to someone else about the situation rather than speaking to me, and you didn't tag me, either. /u/theothermod

EDIT: And btw, I don't even dislike you guys. I like what you do for the most part. This is about smart spending.

[–]typhonblue 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Taking funds for personal gain, aka 'vacations' is profiteering.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The vacation comment was more of the benefit of traveling the world, something a local MRA wouldn't get to do, but their voice would matter just as much for $9,000 less, and we would hear new ideas from more speakers. I'm not anti-HBR, I just don't think this is the best way to spend money. That $9,000 now can't be used towards something else. I stick to my argument, however, that I never brought up anything about personal profiteering. I actually prefer people in the MRM make money. It seems Cassie Jaye made a good amount of money, and that makes me happy. I don't think that spending money on flights is profiteering at all, because that is an expense, not profit. It's closer to "waste" than "profiteering".

[–]girlwriteswhat 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

First thing, I detest travelling. Particularly by plane. When I was working a day job, I used to have to book a day off prior to leaving to prepare, and three days off after returning, just to recover. Most people probably wouldn't know it, but I'm a hard core introvert. I also have developed a thyroid condition (Hashimoto's most likely) with the attendant fatigue and memory problems, so at the moment, travelling SUCKS.

Before I started doing this, every time I chose to travel was to visit extended family, not to be a tourist. Any touristy things I do on this trip will be because someone arranged a group visit to the beach or something.

This trip, I'll be gone for just over two weeks--WAY longer than I had initially planned or wanted. I'll be doing an hour in studio with Skynews' The Outsiders, a Q&A with Mark Latham, and a speech at the Sydney Institute the week leading up to the conference. There will also possibly be a meet-up in Melbourne following the conference.

This is NOT a fucking vacation for me. I would not normally choose to travel to London, or to Australia, or to Detroit, or to anywhere farther away than the other side of town if I were just some person who worked a normal job. I almost never make any actual money for these trips (yes, they usually paid for, but I don't get paid for them, which means I'm not making any of the content while I'm gone for which I am paid), and sometimes I do them at my own expense, such as when I spoke at the Students for Liberty conference at Simon Fraser University, and followed up with a presentation on Toxic Femininity for SFUAMB. Under those conditions, I would NOT have agreed to that trip at all if not for the SFL speech, which would put these ideas in front of people who would be new to them.

And finally, as if all that isn't enough,

I have a 7 month old puppy who's just going into her first heat and will be in the danger zone under the primary care of a 14 year old the entire time I'm gone (which is just freaking perfect), and an old dog with what looks like a false pregnancy probably brought on by the recent introduction of a new puppy. It's REALLY not a good time for me to be away. And to top it off, I'm waiting for notice of the appointment for my thyroid biopsy, and I'm assuming it will arrive any moment and the appointment will be scheduled for sometime during the two weeks I'm away, which will mean rescheduling and waiting another three months.

And then, when I get back, I'll get a week or so to recover, and then I drive down to Calgary for another speech. I'm thanking GOD that it looks like there's nothing else on the roster until September, because I was hoping this summer to have my yard properly graded so we can get rid of the flooding problem in the basement and we can stop looking like the local trailer park family. I've already had two landscaping companies tell me they're booked solid (which means most of them probably are), and that means acting as my own contractor and finding people to come do whatever work I can't manage myself with the help of my kids and boyfriend.

But yeah, this is a vacation.

[–]benjaminikuta 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sometimes I do them at my own expense, such as when I spoke at the Students for Liberty conference at Simon Fraser University

Thank you for that.

[–]atheist4thecause -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

1) Once again, I never said you made profit on these trips.

2) As I said before, "vacation" referred to travelling the world, but as hung up as you guys are on this word, it was not even my main point, which you guys seem to have no response to.

3) You have all of these complaints. Why not save everybody the money, stay at home, and allow other MRA's to fill that position? I'd have no problem with that, and I think having the diversity of ideas would be a great thing for the MRM. I still don't see a $9,000 flight bill for 4 individuals as a good investment, especially when you're talking about it as more of an obligation than anything.

[–]girlwriteswhat 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

1) No. You said that people helping us pay for these trips are wasting money that could be better spent elsewhere. No one's stopping you from spending your money elsewhere. Hey, here's an idea, why don't you start up a thing and ask people to fund it, and then follow through with it? I'm sure since your ideas are so great, you'll get lots of donations and the money won't go to waste and you'll be too fucking busy actually doing something to bother with bitching about other people doing fundraisers. In other words, why don't you try being the change you want to see, for fuck sake.

2) Yeah, except you said it, didn't you. It wasn't your main point, but you said it. You said people were bankrolling our vacations. These are not vacations. Alison has agoraphobia and anxiety issues. Do you really THINK she enjoys travelling? Do you think this is a fucking pleasure cruise for us? Because that's what it seems like you were saying. We're going on vacation, yeah, and I expect that 90% of the time I'm there I'm going to be desperately wondering when my next moment alone will be.

3) Uh... because I was invited and the were not? And because I'm serious about what I do, unlike some people. Because it IS an obligation, asshole. Do you think this is a fucking hobby for me? If the conference wanted me and weren't able to pay (which they weren't in London) I'd be fundraising to get there, because the conference wants me. I'm sorry they don't want you, or someone else. I'm so fucking sorry they want me. I'm so fucking sorry the organizers are enthusiastic about having HBR attend. I'm really incredibly sorry they feel that having me, and HBR, there will help get ticket-buying bums on seats. I'm really fucking sorry that you, who comments on a reddit with your armchair quarterback advice, aren't being asked to do this shit. Because you know, at least we're doing something. And people like you, well, you're just not obligated so you can sit back and bitch and moan about how the people who DO feel obligated should step aside and make way for those who don't feel obligated, or who are less effective, or who would rather complain about shit from the comfort of their living rooms.

You tell me who you'd rather have speak at ICMI. I'll suggest it to the organizers and offer to bow out. Because you know, considering what I put myself through to do this, and all the shit I end up neglecting (including my health) because I'm asked to, having someone claim I should step aside and stop having people bankroll my "vacations" is really fucking rich.

So you tell me. Who should I suggest to Mike, Paul and Bettina to replace me? I'll suggest it to them, and if they agree I'll stay the fuck home. Because what's the point of feeling obligated when the very people I'm doing it for are bitching that I'm engaging in paid tourism?

[–]AnotherDAM 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Illegitimi non carborundum

[–]atheist4thecause -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

1) I said it's not a cost-effective move. I know that I can spend my money elsewhere, and I chose to. I also have the ability to speak my mind, which I chose to do. You guys keep trying to make this about me fundraising, but it's not about me at all. "Bitching about fundraisers" is doing something, btw.

2) I did say that it was like a vacation, however, I did not say it was profiteering, which is the straw man you guys are creating. And stand by my argument that it's "like a vacation" because you get the benefit of traveling the world, which despite your complaints, is actually a benefit. As to whether this is a "pleasure cruise" for you, those are words I never used. Poor you making this trip sound like such an obligation. Stay home, then. Nobody is forcing you to go. I do not feel bad for you.

3) You were invited while others were not, however, I'm sure others could've been found to take your place, right? ;) And yeah, I basically do think it's a hobby for you because you don't act professional at all. You go and get drunk and talk about your tits. Wow, what a great image you put on for MRA's. What a great professional you are, Karen. And again, you made this about me, as if I'm complaining because I'm jealous. That's simply not the case. But swear a little more and get a little more emotional to show me what a professional you are, and that this is definitely no hobby for you.

Yes, I comment on Reddit, just as you do. I have also been published by AVFM, interviewed by CNN multiple times, and been published elsewhere on everything from men's rights issues, racial issues, and sports. But hey, I'm jealous of all of you, right? I mean, that's what we're going with here, right?

Give me a break on your health. You neglect your health in many ways, such as smoking and drinking. A trip to Australia isn't driving your long-term health issues if you have them. And you throwing this pity party certainly doesn't convince me that this whole trip thing is a good idea. It further convinces me that the trip is not a good idea. It's extremely expensive, you seem not to want to go, and now you claim your health is neglected because you are going. So how was I wrong when I voiced my opinion to start again?

Also, you are not going to Australia for me. I'm calling bullshit on that. As for MRA's, ummm...well, I found flights for about half the cost from Spain to Australia. How about the producer of "Silenced", Nacho González? I think he would be a good option.

[–]typhonblue 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

I'm okay with us not going to Australia; people vote with their wallets.

And I have to say, the way they went to one of "The Red Pill" documentaries and got incredibly drunk was extremely unprofessional. They were slurring their words, being incredibly inappropriate, etc.

Sorry what?

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

I'm okay with us not going to Australia; people vote with their wallets.

It's nice to have the advantage of constant stickies, isn't it?

Sorry what?

I'm surprised you don't remember. It was quite embarrassing.

[–]typhonblue 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I'm surprised you don't remember. It was quite embarrassing.

Who was it and which showing?

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Mainly Karen, and it was the preliminary showings I believe. IIRC, in New York. Brian was at home base connected through Skype asking questions, Cassie Jaye was interviewed at one point, Karen went out for a cigarette and brought a chair outside, which was a chair the establishment then asked to bring back inside. I'm pretty sure that was all the same event, but I am going off of memory.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

The New York showing. I was there. How did you come by this information?

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

By watching your live stream. Karen gave her interview. It was pretty obvious she was drunk as could be, and she admitted so (again, going off of memory, but I'm pretty sure she admitted she was drunk at the time).

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

You're right, I don't remember this. She might have said it as a joke but what I remember was that she was coherent throughout the night. It was a party, btw.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

She was definitely drunk, and everybody knew it. Many other commentators even said so. And that's fine that you guys wanna go and party it up, but I'd rather our MRM funds get directed towards more professionalism than people going to a premier that get drunk and talk about boobs. And that was just one example. There are lots of examples. It just feels like lots of money is being thrown at HBR and I don't think that money is being used very cost-effectively. And for as much money as you guys get, HBR doesn't seem to be growing very quickly, at around 35,000 subs on Youtube now. On 2/1/16, you guys were at 350,000+ views. On 4/1/17, you guys are under 150,000 views. That's a loss of 40+% of your views and dropping quickly. You gained 23 subs on 4/17, compared to 2,120 on 10/15. Estimated monthly earnings are $37-$593 and yearly are $445-$7.1K. There seems to be no change in business model. So not only is the channel completely failing, lots of MRM is being poured into you guys, and you're taking up regular /r/MensRights stickies. Source: https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/honeybadgerradio

Like I said, I'm not against you guys, but I am pro-MRM, and I do want money spent efficiently, especially when there is so little to go around. People are free to spend their money as they choose, of course, but that doesn't mean they choose to spend money efficiently. I know you probably think I'm being a dick, but that's really not my intention.

And I'm not sure who I'm talking to, but if this is Alison, I do see you as the best of the bunch, and the most professional. But tell me: Where's the future of HBR in the MRM? Is it a self-sustaining business? It seems to me that this business has to be a volunteer effort that depends on donations, eventually I think those donations dry up, and eventually I think the personalities start doing other things. If/when that happens, what will have been the long-term return on investment?

[–]typhonblue 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

This has got to be the most hilarious thread yet. I have one person bitching about me because we "changed business models" and another saying we haven't changed business models.

Holy shit, you people. Look, as long as people pay me I'll continue to do what I do. The end.

[–]theothermod 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just to let everybody visiting here know - since this post, we have nearly doubled the number of supporters, and more than tripled the amount pledged. Thank you all, and keep it up! - u/DaNiceguy

That's in just two days! Our subreddit has some good potential.

[–]Unpacer 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Somewhat unrelated. Why honey badger?

[–]girlwriteswhat 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the name? Because the honey badger don't give a shit.

[–]TheHawk71 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I hope they make it down under. However, I also hope we get back to conferences being held in North America. The vast majority of MRA's are in Canada and the U.S. Fine, a couple conferences abroad to show and gather support, but it's not realistic for most to travel to Australia. I've been while in the military though, and it was very nice.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I miss their old business model. :(

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Which was?

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

just uploading the content. Now they upload heavily edited videos and have the full video behind patron.

[–]typhonblue 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The full video isn't behind patreon.

The link is in the card at the beginning of the shows, it's in the low bar, it's accessible through minds at:

http://www.minds.com/honeybadgerradio

The full length podcasts are also available in audio at:

http://www.honeybadgerradio.com

Finally, the podcasts are not "behind patron" but uploaded with show notes for free on patreon.

Now, I have a question. Was this distortion of the truth intentional?

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxfDvSyPKA

Watch the full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/11096625

Listen to the full show here: http://honeybadgerradio.libsyn.com/mr...

You can find the aftershow here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/phallus...

So I don't see anything about Minds. I see two patron links and a podcast. I don't watch the screen while I listen so i must have missed the card.

I didn't know Patreon hosted free content. I also figured the podcast was pay to play, because why would you upload a free podcast and a paid link?

As for your last question, why the fuck would I lie about that? what do I stand to gain? in what world do you think "I wish I had more content" is a smear? Get over yourself.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

As for your last question, why the fuck would I lie about that? what do I stand to gain? in what world do you think "I wish I had more content" is a smear? Get over yourself.

You said we went from a free model to "paid" when we did not. A yes or no is fine.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

an accusation of lying based on nothing isn't "a yes or no is fine."

[–]typhonblue 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Someone can be mislead without lying. I'm asking which one it was.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And to answer your question. If you aren't misleading people intentionally, then my response to your information is different than if you are.

If you're intentionally misleading people that means you're going out of your way to paint a picture and nothing I do will change that.

If you're not, that means it makes sense for me to tweek the system we've developed for publishing content. Which is not easy since it requires coordinating several people.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasn't a criticism. I was just sad about less content. I was wrong. Don't like being called a liar.

[–]CurtisAxelmania 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Does this mean they finished the Calgary thing? I want to see them get back the money for trip 1 before doing trip 2.

[+]DaNiceguy points 9 years ago* [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

Totally different issue. This is ICMI17. The Calgary thing was a comics convention.

[–]theothermod 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think he means they should get awarded costs and damages over the Calgary thing, and use that money to fund the current trip.

But that depends on whether they won the court case or not.

[–]typhonblue 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The court case is ongoing.

[–]theothermod 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck.

[–]oneiorosgripwontstfu 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The problem with linking the two is that the timing of the court issue is not under our control. The court set the date for the next hearing, and it's not until the beginning of winter. This is simply the reality of legal action; it is mostly long periods of waiting interrupted by short bursts of activity, with your opponent having the ability to delay resolution without your consent by bringing up tangents that add additional court activity.

ICMI is becoming a pretty much annual event. It will happen in June regardless of when the court has time for our case. Setting winning the case as a must-do before we do anything else is basically saying "don't engage in any men's issues activism that will necessitate fundraising, even though you have time and the capacity to do so without taking anything away from your case, until you get through that legal maze." It's very unproductive.

[–]theothermod 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No problem. I was just trying to guess what /u/CurtisAxelmania was saying.

I hope some of you guys can make it to Sydney, because I can't make it to the Gold Coast.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We're trying!

[–]atheist4thecause 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Given that the MRM has no leaders, how is it justifiable to spend $13,500 to send you guys to Australia? This amount of money could go towards something much bigger and more influential, could it not? I mean, you guys have already spoken at many get-togethers, and many know what you have to say. Why not let MRA's from Australia and the surrounding areas to fill the Australian ICMI? Your flights alone for 4 of you will cost $9,000. I don't see how that type of spending is in the best interest of the MRM, especially given the MRM is a decentralized movement that has no leaders.

[–]typhonblue 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too late.

[–]atheist4thecause 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say totally different issue. They were kicked out of the Comics Convention for displaying and supporting men's rights issues.

[–]typhonblue 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. The court case is ongoing because after actually taking a look at the case the judge realized it would take more than one and a half days to accommodate.

[–]WillMeatLover 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I am a little confused by the information on the page. My apologies if I prove to be a derp who missed obvious and clearly stated information. Melbourne has been mentioned a few times, but then it says this is all in the Gold Coast and Sydney. I'm in Melbourne, I was interested in getting a ticket or whatever if there is something going on here. Can anyone lend me some guidance?

[+]DaNiceguy points 9 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

OK, the conference itself is on the Gold Coast. Funding for that, plus a pre-conference meetup in Sydney has been met. Now they're trying to add a Melbourne leg to the tour.

[–]WillMeatLover 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So how would supporting the Melbourne leg work? Do I offer to buy a ticket if they can get enough, uh, not sure what to call them, promised tickets I guess, or is it just a donation dealio?

Edit: also, thanks for the info.

[+]DaNiceguy points 9 years ago* [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

To be honest, I don't know. I'm only going for the main conference on the Gold Coast. Is there contact info on the page?

[–]WillMeatLover 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I found the prices of tickets and I'm too broke to go anyway. Thanks though.

[+]DaNiceguy points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Guess what... they just funded the Melbourne leg of the tour.

[–]WillMeatLover 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool, thanks for letting me know. Now I just need to check if I can afford a ticket or whatever.

[–]WillMeatLover 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you would be so kind as to help a derp like me find the Melbourne meet up details? Both if there is a cost and where to find the informaiton? The link in this thread readily gives the Sydney details but doesn't seem to give any details for Melbourne. Not sure if that's because Melbourne is last second or what.

[–]typhonblue 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've updated the post with the Melbourne meet up details. If you want to RSVP, please send an email to: [email protected]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6e4iuf/meet_the_badgers_in_australia/

[–]WillMeatLover 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome, thanks.

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