Many women's sense of entitlement is so great that they feel they shouldn't contribute anything to a relationship, and that the man should do everything.

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You just saw an alien.

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Fuck off. Making sweeping generalizations about an entire sex is a stupid, shitty, legitimately sexist thing to do.

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You're right, it is a shitty thing to do. But generalizations exist for a reason, because its an accurate assessment for a majority. Else, we would never be able to say anything about anything due to there being exceptions for almost everything.

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A) I don't think saying 'Women are emotional first, logical second' is an accurate generalization, and I fail to see any evidence to believe it is.

B) You don't have to make generalizations like that. Yes, some things do apply to a certain group of people, but not all of them. For example, women are less physically strong than men on average. There are women who are stronger than most men, so we say 'On average, women are physically weaker than men'. You can still make statements about groups, as long as you acknowledge there are exceptions.

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If you acknowledge every exception with each statement, it undermines your conviction. Its not right, but I've noticed that people don't listen if you always follow up a statement with "except for" or "usually."

I don't think that's a bad thing. You shouldn't be confident in the statement that all women are governed by emotion before logic, because it's not true.

Also, you are entitled to your opinion that women do not act emotionally before logic. But my opinion differs due to my everyday experience, and modern feminism.

I do not believe that women do not act emotionally before resorting to logic. I haven't formed an opinion on women as a group because I haven't met enough women to make a concrete statement on how all 3.5 billion of them act. Your everyday experience is small, anecdotal, potentially biased and not statistically significant. I have no problem with you saying "In my experience, women tend to act emotionally before using logic", that's fine, but saying that all women do is just false.

It's like a feminist who's dated a lot of douchbags in her time saying "All men are assholes". It's an incorrect generalization based on the personal experience of one woman interacting with a very small subset of the male population.

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[–]Mattster3517 points 9 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

DON'T STOOP TO THEIR LEVEL!

Dude, that's a terrible plan. If you have facts, use them. Don't resort to the shit they do. You will never convince a hardcore feminist. The point of arguing with them is not to get them to concede the point, it's to make other, more moderate people who see your exchange go "Hey, that anti feminist guy has a good point, I'm going to consider changing my perspective." You're not going to do that with flawed anecdotes and arguments.

Furthermore, this isn't a war. You shouldn't be looking at this from the perspective of defeating feminists, but from the perspective of finding out the truth. Look at the evidence, come to a conclusion, then explain your reasoning to others. If they're reasonable, they'll follow suit. If not, you'll never convince them, so move on.

Also, I'm not a feminist. If you have evidence to prove that women tend to put emotion above logic, show it to me, and I will consider it in good faith. Don't use their tactics against me for no reason.

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If people, not just feminists, listened to facts and logic over feelings the workd would make much more sense. But they don't. Hell, I didn't either for too long. Also, no feminist I've ever seen has heard an arguement and considered they're wrong. It's either validation or misogyny.

I'm not high up in the food chain, so I can't claim I've found the truth. But from the information of what feminism has wrought, the lies the media spreads on anyone who doesn't conform, like Trump, my view is that only someone who takes it upon themselves to at least try to find the truth will know it. Arguing, no matter how well done, just isn't effective against the mob mentality.

My evidence isn't tangible. After all, what hard evidence would prove that? Statistics on women's brain/hormone activity affecting behavior? Yeah, not so easy. But there are plenty of false rape accusations out there based off of feelings, hurt emotions, and even one based on feeling unsafe due to a dream. Also, look at the women's marches. How many of their signs are true? How many of them actually are opressed? They're really just looking to be victims and so, oppressing themselves. That's all due to their feelings trumping facts.

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SRS? As in, sex reassignment surgery?

... That's a procedure, not an organisation. That'd be like me saying "Lobotomy called, they want you back". It makes no sense. Did you mean "The SRS clinic called, they want you back"?

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[+]Mattster3517 points 9 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not feigning shit. Is SRS the name of a subreddit or something?

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I know what sex reassignment surgery IS, I think the implication is that I had sex reassignment surgery and am therefore weak, I just don't understand how the sentence "Sex reassignment surgery called, they want you back" makes grammatical sense. So, I'm asking if SRS stands for something else that I don't know about.

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That's a great subreddit, a little bit too fat people hate and the red pill for me but still hilarious

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Many women's sense of entitlement is so great that they feel they shouldn't contribute anything to a relationship, and that the man should do everything.

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