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"Ellen Pao, once at center of gender case, joins Kapor in diversity role"

jamminnummeruno

January 11, 2017
37 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-pao-kapor-idUSKBN14U2SV?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews
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Title "Ellen Pao, once at center of gender case, joins Kapor in diversity role"
Author

jamminnummeruno

Upvotes 37
Comments 26
Date January 11, 2017 1:21 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5nc4rx/ellen_pao_once_at_center_of_gender_case_joins/
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Comments

[–]Lethn 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

Pao lost her sex-discrimination lawsuit in 2015 against Kleiner Perkins, but the case drew attention to the comparative lack of diversity at many technology companies and tech investment firms.

Fuck you Reuters, I thought they were always one of the more respectable news sites that just posted, well news. Looks like they're becoming as bad as all the others. Let's ignore the fact that she tried to ruin reddit and deliberately caused trouble in a company to try and make money of blackmail, let's focus on the fact there are too many straight white men in the tech industry instead!

Had they left out that little line towards the end they would have been absolutely fine, but like with all these damn journalists, they're so self-important and arrogant that they feel the need to insert their own bullshit into everything they write.

Here's a tip for starting off news journalists, if you want people out there to respect you, don't do what Reuters just did here, instead, write up the news article as a news article and link a separate opinion blog so people can read your viewpoint if they really want to.

[–]Electroverted 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but the case drew attention to the comparative lack of diversity at many technology companies and tech investment firms.

Wow, they really love stirring that shit, don't they? "We have an agenda to uphold!"

[–]Singulaire 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was just starting a conversation.

[–]Internetshminternet 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All of our posts are worthless unless you guys email the journalists.

[–]practeerts -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I don't see anything about that sentence that is opinionated. Women do make up fewer positions in tech and STEM fields in general. Seems like news reporting the facts to me.

Now if they charged that fact with other language that made it sound like discriminatory practices were at hand then it would be a different story. I don't see that here in this instance.

[–]Lethn 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what they mean by 'lack of diversity' news sites always try to make it out that automatically because there aren't any women or minorities in a company it is deliberate discrimination, either way, they should be reporting on the facts and not regurgitating other peoples' politics or their own according to the subject they're writing about.

If you think I'm being paranoid about this, think to yourself, when have feminists and SJWs never thought that lack of diversity in their actual opinion pieces have never been a problem or not a deliberate slight against them personally? They may cover it up with more carefully crafted language, but in the end, it's still the same old bullshit, this is something the BBC does as well except because they've had so many university students and so on flooding in lately they're having a harder time hiding these viewpoints because the newer employees don't know a thing about PR.

[–]xNOM 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree actually. Except how often does Reuters run stories about the comparative lack of diversity in the garbage collection industry, teaching, or nursing?

[–]lasciate 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a dog-whistle term. You might read a fairly innocuous statement, but the targeted readers know that "lack of diversity" means sex/race discrimination is afoot.

IIRC diversity or lack thereof had nothing to do with Pao's case. She was alleging specific discrimination, not waging a one-woman war against Big Tech. But after reading that sentence those in-the-know are supposed to infer the following:

  • The tech industry is sexist, or at least more sexist than other industries

  • Ellen Pao's case was about fighting sexism in the tech industry

even though neither of those things is true. The statement is intended to stoke a pre-existing bias on the part of certain readers and settle into their minds as another piece of anecdotal evidence (even though it's neither anecdote nor evidence, but merely a restatement of opinions that are "in the air").

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for explaining things a bit more eloquently and in more detail than I did :P didn't know at all about dog-whistle politics, will have to look that term up.

[–]Satansyngel 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Women do make up fewer positions in tech and STEM fields in general. Seems like news reporting the facts to me.

There is no lack of diversity anywhere ever.

[–]practeerts 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Did I say there was a lack of diversity, or that fewer women work in tech and general STEM fields? What the fuck is confusing about fewer women pursuing STEM? Look at enrollment and graduation statistics for STEM. Fewer women there, that is the fact if you he matter.

Or are you assuming I'm some kind of retard pretending that it's "cause sexism and patriarchy keeps women out"? If that were the context for my comment then I'm in the wrong fucking sub.

[–]Satansyngel 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Did I say there was a lack of diversity, or that fewer women work in tech and general STEM fields?

Yes you did you called it a fact.

[–]practeerts 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There are less men enrolled in college. Fact or something I'm making up too?

[–]Satansyngel 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A red herring.

[–]practeerts 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Less men are enrolled in some form of college/higher education. Less women pursue STEM fields even though they hold the majority of college enrollment.

If you want to dispute cold hard numbers then go be an SJW and ignore the rest of reality too.

[–]Satansyngel 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not disputing any facts. I'm disputing that there is a LACK OF DIVERSITY which you claimed was a fact.

[–]practeerts 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Less men enrolled in college is less diversity. Less women pursuing STEM even though they make up the majority of college enrollment is not lack of diversity. You're reading into things in the dumbest possible ways.

[–]jamminnummeruno[S] 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Pao has moved on to ruin another company.

[–]acearmv8 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Its a "retirement job" for her. Its a job at a non profit as diversity official. It will have a wage that most normal working people will envy, but small for a "career women" like her and more importantly probably an end of the line job.

She will be comfortable but it is game over.

[–]jamminnummeruno[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Never under estimate a woman scorned.

[–]ISOanexplanation 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's "hell hath no fury".

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her inevitable lawsuit against the company should provide a nice golden parachute.

[–]cuteman 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe her and Marissa Mayer can work on a project together... and run it into the ground.

[–]fengpi 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based on this woman's career, I have little doubt that the number of instances of significant discrimination she has experienced in her life can be counted on one hand. With fingers to spare.

[–]soparamens 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck this bitch.

[–]quackquackoopz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

diversity role

i.e. literally no skills beyond ideological bullying

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