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A woman who was given probation for the rape and attempted murder of a 13 year old boy in 2011 has now been arrested for killing her husband

xynomaster

July 1, 2016
70 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title A woman who was given probation for the rape and attempted murder of a 13 year old boy in 2011 has now been arrested for killing her husband
Author

xynomaster

Upvotes 70
Comments 21
Date July 1, 2016 6:22 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4qqb4t/a_woman_who_was_given_probation_for_the_rape_and/
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Comments

[–]xynomaster[S] 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So she raped a 13 year old boy and then shot him in the back while he slept, and was given probation...I don't think I even have to say it, but there is absolutely a 0% chance of a man raping a 13 year old girl, then shooting her as she slept, and not going to prison.

Clearly, she's a violent sexual predator. The judge knew this when sentencing her. If she'd been in prison where she belonged, her husband would still be alive. I guess a man's life is less important than giving a female child rapist/murderer a second chance.

[–]BDMR_lurker 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Are US judges accountable for this type of decision? Is there an inquest process?

[–]mikesteane 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No they are not. If they were, Lorena Bobbitt would have got a life sentence, and Crystal Magnum would have been put away for a very long time. In both cases, further very serious crimes resulted from the ridiculous sentences.

[–]BDMR_lurker 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Public accountability?

Not all of your judges are elected? I'm fuzzy on US legal customs.

[–]King_Turnip 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

State judges have differing processes depending on the state. In about half the statesize theyou use some forms of the Missouri Plan, where vacancies are filled by an appointeden committee and then sitting judges vote on retaining them. The public generally gets very little input by design.

Federal judges are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Congress. All are life tenure and the only way to get rid of them is by impeachment. It's rate and difficult.

[–]BDMR_lurker 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you.

So the absence of accountability leads to abuse of power.

I'm flabbergasted.

Seriously, I thought that US law was all about checks and balances.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good question. If someone could give a run down of how it works, I'd be interested.

[–]Tmomp 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As criminal as she is, the greater problem is the sexist system that doesn't hold women to equal justice.

[–]Electroverted 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strike two, young lady! [wags his finger at her]

[–]civilsaint 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How does she explain shooting that boy in the back? "Oh, he raped me."

It's like a bad punchline.

[–]bewareoftheaussie 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Whoever decided that it would be okay to let this violent woman out into society should be removed from their job. Permanently.

I'm not familiar with US law - who decides whether someone gets probation or not?

[–]Shanguerrilla 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A judge in most trials (because most defendants don't take it to a trial by jury and I don't think all court instances would allow to anyway). So usually a judge 99% of the time, once in awhile the jury, but even then the judge has some leniency on the punishment, just not the verdict of guilty. In many of the cases where women or police are the defendants, a large part of the blame falls onto the prosecutor as well for not bringing up as serious charges as the crime's demand (and drastically less than they would men or minorities), while offering them both better pleas as well.

Likely others could correct small nuances in my answers or better clarify, but that's the jist as I understand it.

[–]aokusman 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why did she have a husband? That's the real question.

[–]pintocat 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because men haven't learned that marriage is bad for them

[–]dontfuckabout 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She wasn't just given probation.

She remained in jail for four years awaiting trial, unable to meet her bond of $50,000. In 2011, she pleaded guilty ...

When she plead she was given time served for the four years. With good time/work time credits added in, her sentence could have been higher.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Detention is not prison, and exists for different reasons. She was one guarantor willing to lend her the money away from walking the streets. There is an entire industry built up around lending people in detention the cash for their bond at interest, so the only reason she was not free for that period was because she chose not to incur those costs.

[–]dontfuckabout 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter the reason she was held in jail, she still gets credit for time served. Also, most jails are much worse than prisons so she did a hard 4 years.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It actually does matter in this case. Her trial date doesn't change, so she is either free pre trial, and incarcerated post trial (pays bond) or detained pre trial, and free on probation post trial (opts not to pay bond). If she does the former, she is likely in prison when this second offence occurs.

Using detention for leverage on charging and sentencing can also see felonies reduced to misdemeanors or even dropped, so there are benefits for people looking for a cleaner record, so as to hide their prior criminal activity more effectively.

[–]Shanguerrilla 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've had a few states wide in depth exploration at many many city and county jails in the south eastern U.S.. I think that you aren't wrong if you mean there are benefits and drawbacks / pro's and con's to being in prison versus jail--- BUT I can say without a doubt that "most" jails are NOT "much worse" than prisons. Prison is near infinitely a scarier place, with more drama and near all the 'prison-rape'. That's where the 'real' criminals go, the convicted felons with multiple strikes, the murderers and rapists, and it's where they are often never going to leave, with nothing to lose, and/or have gone years to decades without female touch. Prison is very very much worse than ANY city or county jail I've ever had the displeasure of attending. I will say that it is for me a bit nicer to do time in prison aside from those greater con's mentioned, simply because they are set up for longer imprisonment and in the most case there are social rules and etiquette / respects that are instilled and shared in most the population, and prisons have programs spartanly here, but able to attend, access to computers, yard time, tv, etc.. That is nice, compared to your first year in a county jail, but it comes at a very steep price in the difference between jail/prison.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The insult on top of this is constantly hearing on the radio and TV that women are disadvantaged.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is that the husband or the woman in the picture?

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