Not The Onion: Alimony reform bills trample women's rights

coke501 · 2016-03-08T09:28:42+00:00

Judges have been able to resolve these issues efficiently and fairly for decades.

Sure. It doesn't get fairer than lifelong alimony based on the current income of the partner that earns more.

It is offensive to me to hear men or women say they can't retire because they can't afford to retire if they have to pay a fraction of their income for tax-deductible alimony

goes on to say

Women are not allowed at present to an award that exceeds half their former spouse's income

So, while the half is indeed a fraction, phrasing it this way is a little bit dishonest, isn't it?

They are not allowed to receive alimony for savings under current law without reform

So all of the savings go to the partner that has to pay alimony in case of divorce? I didn't know that. I guess it isn't true, though.

The pending bills aim to make timesharing of children equal for the same reasons. More timesharing equals less financial support

Because fuck the children. I want more money.

Don't allow women's rights to be trampled simply because rich men have organized and are convincing people that they are disenfranchised without any empirical or economic data to support their theories

Let's pretend it is the rich people that profit from this the most (which in absolute numbers may be true; i.e. number of $ paid), they are not the ones that struggle in the aftermath of divorce.

Marriage, alimony and custody are in deep need of reform. Yes, it will hurt women most, not because their rights are trampled, but because their privileges are.

xNOM · 2016-03-08T15:01:40+00:00

If fairness were the desired result, the solution would then be simple: just equalize net income for a period equal to the length of the marriage.

how is that fairness

what the hell kind of definition of fairness is that?

FFXIV_Machinist · 2016-03-08T16:21:25+00:00

here is how alimony should be handled nation wide.... its fucking simple.

Terms are gender neutral.

Qualifiers	Yes	No
Did the marriage result in Birthed or mutually adopted Children	Alimony awarded	Alimony not awarded
Does Primary care spouse have a 2 year degree equivalent or higher	Alimony Term = 6 years Minus total Years of college Completed (minimum of 1 year)	Alimony Term = 4-6 years at judges discretion(maximum of 6 years)
Did Primary care spouse have income during the Child care process at least one year prior to the divorce	Annual alimony = ((Net Primary Earner income+ Net PCS Income)/2)- Net PCSincome) = Annual alimony paymeny, AAP/12= Monthly alimony payment. Example 75k/yr Net Primary earner income & 25k/Yr net Primary Care Income = (75k+25k)=100k/2= 50k- 25k= 25k total Annual Almiony Payment, 25k/12 = 2,080/Month.	Alimony = 50% of primary earning Spouses Current net income- adjustable with current net incomes for alimony term.
Was either spouse declared permanently disabled and incapable of earning wage during the course of (not prior to) the marriage as result of non controllable events (I.e Morbid obesity is controllable, and would not qualify)	all previous alimony rules are invalid. Spouse is awarded a life long 50% alimony.	no special exception granted.

These terms would ensure that

Life time alimony goes away
The lesser earning spouse is forced to stand on their own two feet after a reasonable period of time in which they could reasonably obtain a college education AND a job.
Alimony is only granted if Children came as a result of the marriage, as the "Sacrificial" element of the alimony claims can only come about as result of. (born or adopted) were a part of the marriage (previous marriage, and illegitimate children do not qualify. Adoption of previous marriage children counts as adoption.)
this also prevents unbalanced alimony payments to spouses with the capacity for earning a wage.
this prevents a partner from discarding their spouse because they became disfigured or maimed in the course of working. I.E. if a soldier comes back from war, and is permanently maimed as a result and cant earn a wage, the spouse is responsible for caring for them financially.
this also prevents instances where the combined spousal income + Alimony does not exceed the primary earners wages as it does in many cases.

carchamp1 · 2016-03-08T16:05:33+00:00

Alimony Reform Bills Trample Women's Privilege

Fixed.

Title	Not The Onion: Alimony reform bills trample women's rights
Author	eaton80
Upvotes	29
Comments	13
Date	March 8, 2016 8:54 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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