Woman's rights advocate says she cares less about legal justice for rape than "community accountability" for the alleged rapist

SimCity8000 · 2016-01-31T08:07:55+00:00

Of course. Who needs real justice when you can have vigilante mob justice?

skee_ · 2016-01-31T14:32:13+00:00

Wait a minute. When did we start calling them "woman's rights advocates"? They are feminists, and they are not pro-woman's rights, they are anti-men's rights. I support equal rights, but not female supremacy (including reversing due process), hence I am not a feminist.

Has the term "feminist" become so toxic that they're going to start calling themselves WRA's?

Wargame4life · 2016-01-31T10:31:59+00:00

ok fine, lets first lock her up for 30 years for being collectively responsible for the slave trade, and then after 30 years, another 30 for being responsible for all unjust foreign deaths as a result of american government action or policy.

lock the bitch up make her pay for these crimes as she shares and attribute of the offenders therefore by her own logic is suitable to be punished.

girlwriteswhat · 2016-01-31T17:26:45+00:00

This is what "community accountability" looked like less than 100 years ago:

http://www.eachoneteachone.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/lynching-of-Thomas-Shipp-Abram-Smith-in-Indiana_1930--1024x544.jpg

So yes! Let's go there, fuck the courts and fuck due process of law.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2016-01-31T14:39:06+00:00

“I have no faith in the justice system. So for me, the focus is less on a criminal trial and more on community accountability.”

In Ghomeshi’s case, Lalonde says, it seems the court of public opinion will not be swayed by not-guilty verdicts – people are instead choosing to believe the many women who have come forward. Much of what he has been accused of is not even being addressed in the trial.

“You don’t have to be convicted of a crime for people to believe you are not worthy of a pedestal,” Lalonde says. “Justice for women doesn’t begin and end in a courtroom.”

How does this jive with their claim that false accusations are harmless if he isn't convicted because that stigma doesn't follow you around?

NibblyPig · 2016-01-31T15:44:21+00:00

It's really depressing to read this stuff about them complaining about women sometimes not being taken seriously due to consenting and regretting it later when it is entirely feminisms own doing. By failing to prosecute people that cry rape for regretting a sexual encounter, the behaviour is normalised.

Some people will be evil and use it to as a tool to ruin a man's life, yes, but that's not the main issue (surprisingly). Others will just think it's normal and cry rape instinctively because they have unhappy feelings about a sexual encounter. What rape actually is is being blurred so much that people without malicious intent will cry it because they've been convinced that's what you're supposed to do. If a woman feels bad about a sexual encounter it is not her fault! It's never her fault! Therefore must be rape.

Someone should make a feminist movement called the accountability movement, that teaches if you want to be a scientist or an engineer then you need to apply, and it's honourable; no-one is going to do it for you. If you have a shitty sexual encounter that was consensual, chalk it up to experience because shit happens. Take some responsibility for everything in your life and you and womenkind will be successful.

bertreapot · 2016-01-31T20:36:27+00:00

Feminist logic is confounding. They claim women don't come forward because they will be treated poorly by the system. So you have all these women claiming rape, yet they won't report it, just because they know they won't be treated well, yet in truth they have no idea how their treatment would be, because they don't bother reporting. Make sense?

Next is not trusting the criminal system when a report is made, because the man will most likely get off, because defense attorneys will look at the complainant's own behaviors to discredit her; and that it is a myth that sometimes women regret sex or are being vengeful. Well guess what, it is not a myth. Sometimes women do regret sex, sometimes they make up a rape to get back at an ex. What feminists have a problem with is the police or defense attorneys actually looking for evidence of this, and finding it. When you have dozens of text messages after the "rape" where the woman is telling the guy how much she loves him, and she only goes to the police after he spurns her advances, then yes, there is a very real chance that the rape was fabricated. Feminists just want all of us to ignore any evidence that might actually not be in the accuser's favor, because that is "victim blaming" somehow.

Lastly the article promotes mob justice. Even if you are cleared of the crime, the feminists don't have to believe it, and they will do what they can in the community to keep an accused man from rebuilding his life. Feminists forget the very real possibility that the accused man may actually be innocent, and when they insist on punishing innocent people, sane people rightly call them out as the irrational, vengeful harpies they truly are.

ABC_Florida · 2016-02-01T01:20:25+00:00

The trial, beginning Monday with unprecedented media and public attention, will offer an unusual opportunity to scrutinize a system in which sexual assault victims must effectively accept that they will be put on trial in a bid to hold their attacker accountable in a criminal court.

Welcome to the World, Alyshah Snowflake! Do you think there should be a hotline to report rape, and the police would haul the "guilty" directly to prison. And you could also text it? How long do you think due process would last? A year, maybe two? And what would follow? Mob justice. What is mob justice about? Mass of people. And? Physical strength. And who would prevail? The strong ones. You mean the demonized ones with toxic masculinity? Yes. You are a really clever little girl, who wants to build the female version of Afghanistan, that's an F, so sit down!

“Henein, out of any top criminal lawyer, is perhaps most likely to be able to craft a more creative approach to this. It will be interesting to see if she can draw a line between a rigorous defence and a misogynist defence.”

Let's pull the gender card at half distance! So, I assume any female prosecutor or female judge accusing or convicting a male for stealing/robbery/assault/murder isn't simply doing her job, but living her misandric fantasies.

“There has been progression and evolution in our thinking about sexual assault. But I have to say that people have been saying for 30 years that we are undergoing social revolution — or, now is the moment, this is the case that will shift public attitudes about sexual assault,” says UBC law professor Janine Benedet.

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For example, Alberta judge Robin Camp faces an inquiry after being roundly criticized for his comments in a sexual assault case where he asked the complainant, for example: “Why couldn’t you just keep your knees together?”

The case of Cindy Gladue, an aboriginal sex worker who bled to death in a hotel bathtub in Edmonton after an encounter with an Ontario trucker — who was acquitted — is one extreme example.

Jane Doe, the woman whose rape case in 1986 and ensuing lawsuit led to changes in the way police approach sexual assault cases, swings between the cynical view that this trial won’t be any different from the hundreds of high-profile trials that have gone before and the hope that the public scrutiny it brings could prompt political action.

So they complain about the too little changes made in 30 years, but out of the three examples they choose to portray the problem, one is an idiot judge, one is someone getting away with it, and one from 30 years ago! I think it is a good thing, that they only could come up with one real recent issue. Maybe because there are fewer issues nowadays?

“You don’t have to be convicted of a crime for people to believe you are not worthy of a pedestal,” Lalonde says. “Justice for women doesn’t begin and end in a courtroom.”

Dear Julie Lalonde! If you are interested in how justice outside the courtroom works, please buy a ticket to Kabul! You will see how glorious your coveted justice works. Where the one not put on pedestal and had to defend herself with physical force against huge overpower. Where physical strength = being right. Where chai boys are raped on weekly bases by the police and by soldiers. You know, they have a huge advantage over girls. They won't get pregnant. Hope that would clear your vision about your dreams.

Title	Woman's rights advocate says she cares less about legal justice for rape than "community accountability" for the alleged rapist
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Date	January 31, 2016 7:27 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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